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Posted: Monday, March 5, 2012 12:00 am | Updated: 6:27 am, Mon Mar 5, 2012.

I've written before about political correctness and its destructive effect on America's civil society, but when it's extended to policy decisions abroad it can be only described as national suicide.

We have another example of political correctness in the burning of Qurans in Afghanistan. Argue if you want about it being a mistake or not, but it is clear we owed the Muslim people an apology — an apology, singular, not multiple ones from everyone from the president to generals and on and on. That's called groveling and is viewed by Islamists as America being weak, which emboldens them to even more violence. We see pictures of these people beheading, torturing, dismembering, burning soldiers, journalists, civilians with some hanging from bridges with women and children gleefully dancing under them. Cartoonists or anyone else who offends Islam is met with death threats or death itself.

I know that Islamism is distinct from Islam and that it started in the 1920s with the Muslim Brotherhood and its founder Hassan al-Banna. His principal disciple, Sayyid Qutb, came to the U.S. in 1948 on a fellowship living in Greeley, Colo. To him it was like Sodom and Gomorrah. He hated our haircuts, enthusiasm for sports, jazz and what he called "animal-like mixing of the sexes," even in church! His conclusion was "the white man, whether European or American is our first enemy." If he thought Greeley was bad, imagine if he'd gone to San Francisco!

Islamism declared war on us decades ago for nothing other than just being ourselves. It is a cult of death whose credo is "Allah is our goal, the Prophet Mohammed is our leader, the Quran is our constitution, jihad is our way and death in the way of Allah is our promised end." No apology will satisfy these fanatics. They want us dead, period. Islam is in like danger for you if you're not Muslim enough.

It's time for you to speak out against this movement or you'll be hanging burned and dismembered on a bridge with the rest of us.

Ron Portal

Lodi

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30 comments:

  • Brian Dockter posted at 6:43 am on Wed, Mar 7, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2813

    I wish I could ask Mohammad how he feels about the U.S. propaganda machine taking credit for what he did.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 6:40 am on Wed, Mar 7, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2813

    Andrew wrote:

    For the past several years the U.S. propaganda machine has brainwashed Americans to believe that an organization called "Al Qaeda" is the modern enemy of all mankind, thus justifying a worldwide "War On Terror."

    Chuckle:

    So, are you also saying the U.S. Propaganda machine chanelled the authors of the Koran to write down those many verses vying for world domination?

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 6:31 am on Wed, Mar 7, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2813

    Ms. Bobin wrote:

    How, Mr. Baxter, did Obama "jeopardized US military lives to topple Libya?"

    -Are you kidding me? Are you suggesting Obama should have jeopardized US civilian lives instead?

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 6:28 am on Wed, Mar 7, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2813

    I truly hope the CIA is aware there are Al Qaeda counter-intelligence operatives.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 6:25 am on Wed, Mar 7, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2813

    Off the record, the CIA would probably speculate there are Al Qaeda moles within their operation. And al Qaeda would probably speculate the same about CIA moles.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 6:22 am on Wed, Mar 7, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2813

    Andrew,

    Here's another theory for you: Al Qaeda came about as a result of Islamic Extremists
    Idea that the U.S. is the great Satan and they need to wipe it off the face of the Earth.
    Now, Al Qaeda is inadvertantly being financed by Americans because of where they choose to invest their money in the stock market. Now, does Al Qaeda have ties to the CIA. From a counter-intelligence standpoint? Probably. And visa versa.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 6:09 am on Wed, Mar 7, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2813

    Andrew wrote:

    Now we find that the U.S. is supporting and working with "Al Qaeda" in Libya and Syria?

    -Simply put, it's called counter-intelligence.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 10:55 am on Tue, Mar 6, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1835

    Neglected to proof read last post, my guess is our resident GENIUS will be delighted to criticize the mistakes.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 10:24 am on Tue, Mar 6, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1835

    BOBBIN posted. "Oh, so sorry - you stated: "jeopardized US military lives to topple Libya" I didn't realize that you considered materiel "lives."
    Just as I figured, BOBBIN hasn't a clue about military operations. I have news for you,there are PILOTS, FLIGHT ENGINEERS & ORDINANCE PERSONNELl aboard those aircraft and helicopters but my guess is that an anti-military libtard like yourself considers them those lives as "materiel".

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 9:44 am on Tue, Mar 6, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2873

    Ms. Bobin,
    I'm not the one confused.

    Please answer my question Ms. Bobin, "If Al Qaeda, Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood are America’s mortal enemies why are we (the U.S.) backing them?"

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 9:12 am on Tue, Mar 6, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2873

    Brian,
    The truth is, there is no Islamic army or terrorist group called Al Qaeda and any informed individual knows this. Al Qaeda really is Al CIAduh. There is a propaganda campaign to make the public believe in the presence of an identified entity representing the "devil" only in order to drive the TV watcher to accept a unified international leadership for a war against terrorism. For the past several years the U.S. propaganda machine has brainwashed Americans to believe that an organization called "Al Qaeda" is the modern enemy of all mankind, thus justifying a worldwide "War On Terror." Now we find that the U.S. is supporting and working with "Al Qaeda" in Libya and Syria?

    Bottom line: "Al-Qaeda" has been a US invention all along but the average fluoride/aspartame ingesting TV watching moron does not know this...

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:10 am on Tue, Mar 6, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4485

    Mr. Liebich wrote: "The overthrow of Iran’s elected government in 1953 ensured Western control of Iran’s petroleum resources and prevented the Soviet Union from competing for Iranian oil."

    OK, so now I'm not sure if you are CHAMPIONING the overthrow of Mosaddeq or condeming it. Which of your conspiracy theories, which are obviously having a fierce battle in your head, is the winner here?

    To review, you originally stated: "It dates back to at least 1953, when the CIA recruited right-wing mullahs to overthrow Prime Minister Mossadeq in Iran, and also began to cooperate with the Sunni Muslim Brotherhood."

    Which is it - backing right-wing mullahs, or preventing Soviet domination of Iran's oil? Since the Shah was restored to power after this covert operation, the right wing mullahs must have been really upset at being betrayed.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:55 am on Tue, Mar 6, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4485

    "Mr." Baxter wrote: "BOBIN, next you are going to deny that US Military didn't use airpower, bombs and missiles against the government of Libya? If you do you are about as dumb as it gets."

    Oh, so sorry - you stated: "jeopardized US military lives to topple Libya" I didn't realize that you considered materiel "lives."

    "If you do you are about as dumb as it gets." (direct quote from Joe Baxter)

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 8:03 am on Tue, Mar 6, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2813

    Andrew wrote:

    If Al Qaeda, Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood are America’s mortal enemies why are we backing them?


    - I can only speculate on that.

    But I do know we backed Stalin for the specific reason to help us defeat Hitler.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 5:19 am on Tue, Mar 6, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1835

    Sad that some people are so starved for attention that they play the class clown their entire lives. How sad, even pathetic for a self-proclaimed "Christian".

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 4:34 am on Tue, Mar 6, 2012.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2239

    Joe, what is up with this cruddy looking sunset you have on your profile? I much preferred the 3rd grade school photo you had up before. A little facial hair is nothing to be ashamed of.

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 4:32 am on Tue, Mar 6, 2012.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2239

    Lil' Bobbi Chapman scrawled in a shaking hand: "Get real. Read Islalmic websites. They post in their own words exactly what they are attempting to do in the United States and the rest of the world. Straight from the "horse's mouth", so to speak."

    Bobbi, if you read the websites of the Aryan Nation and Sturmfront (as I am sure you do) you will get a pretty cruddy view of Christendom as well. As a Christian, I can't help but wonder whether it might not be the best policy to judge a faith by its militant extremists.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 6:41 pm on Mon, Mar 5, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1835

    BOBIN, next you are going to deny that US Military didn't use airpower, bombs and missiles against the government of Libya? If you do you are about as dumb as it gets. ANY time the military is involved in hot conflict, they are in jeopardy. But you are probably one of those anti military libtards who will deny that is the military that keeps our country free so you can spew your liberal socialistic gibberish. I find it very easy to see why you are the "fingernails on the blackboard" on these posts and most on here are laughing everytime you attempt to come of as the Brainiac you want people to believe you are. Thanks for MY laugh of the day......

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 6:18 pm on Mon, Mar 5, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2873

    now answer my question Ms. Bobin, "If Al Qaeda, Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood are America’s mortal enemies why are we (the U.S.) backing them?"


     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 6:16 pm on Mon, Mar 5, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2873

    Ms.Bobin,

    "Instead of changing the topic"? Huh?

    I fail to see why you are unable to research Operation Ajax on your own if it interests you...Whatever...

    In a nutshell...

    In 1953 US President Dwight D. Eisenhower authorized Operation Ajax. The operation was successful, and Mossadegh was arrested on 19 August 1953. The coup was the first time the US had openly overthrown an elected, civilian government. The overthrow of Iran’s elected government in 1953 ensured Western control of Iran’s petroleum resources and prevented the Soviet Union from competing for Iranian oil.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 5:04 pm on Mon, Mar 5, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2873

    "We" meaning the United States government Mr. Baxter. We in no way meant I.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 4:59 pm on Mon, Mar 5, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4485

    Mr. Liebich wrote: "Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. Facts are facts."

    Then tell us the "facts" about the coup that toppled Mosaddeq instead on changing the subject.

    The quote from Condoleeza Rice: "The organization that did 9/11 — that Al Qaeda — I don't think really exists, but it's still dangerous because it's more atomized — small groups of terrorists who one day probably will get lucky."

    Just a LITTLE different from what you stated.


     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 4:53 pm on Mon, Mar 5, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4485

    How, Mr. Baxter, did Obama "jeopardized US military lives to topple Libya?" You must read/watch news from an alternate universe (as if we didn't know that already).

    And I am sure that Obama would feel extremely proud that Mr. Baxter believes he is able to control the activities in every part of the world. And "talks like he is Anti-Radical Islam?" I suppose you are going to tell us next that bin Laden is not really dead, but holed up in a luxury hotel in Islamabad, living it up at the expense of US taxpayers.

    Sorry - cannot resist my pet peeve - And anyone who cannot even spell "Congressional" should not use the word.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 4:29 pm on Mon, Mar 5, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1835

    Andrew said, "If Al Qaeda, Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood are America’s mortal enemies why are we backing them?"
    WE? We, Andrew? Exactly who is WE? The Obama admistration is backing them, not Americans in general. Obama used our tax dollars and jeopardized US military lives to topple Libya without Congretional approval. He used American influence to topple the goverrnment (long time US allies) in Egypt. I have no doubts he knew full well who would step in and fill the power vacuum. In MY opinion, he wants the Muslim Brotherhood to reign in these places. For someone who talks like he is Anti-Radical Islam, he sure loves paving the way for them to rise to power. America next?

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 12:38 pm on Mon, Mar 5, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2873

    Mr. Chapman,
    Al Qaeda is supporting the Syrian opposition.

    So is the Muslim Brotherhood.

    And Hamas.

    If Al Qaeda, Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood are America’s mortal enemies why are we backing them?

     
  • Robert Chapman posted at 12:10 pm on Mon, Mar 5, 2012.

    Bob Chapman Posts: 997

    I find it highly amusing that even though the Islamics make absolutely NO secret of their aims and goals, there are still people with their head in the sand denying that they are trying to proceed with their goal of world domination of Islam and Sharia law. Awww, those nice people certainly wouldn't do anything bad to Americans who see them as no threat to Western civilization and way of life. Get real. Read Islalmic websites. They post in their own words exactly what they are attempting to do in the United States and the rest of the world. Straight from the "horse's mouth", so to speak.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 12:09 pm on Mon, Mar 5, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2873

    Ms.Bobin, Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. Facts are facts.

    Former US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said in an interview to the Los Angeles Times’s Patt Morrison in October 2010 that Al-Qaeda doesn’t exist.

    Bin Laden himself was a known CIA asset stretching from the late 1970’s when he was armed and funded by the CIA through the Pakistani ISI to lead the Muslim mujahideen against the Soviets in Afghanistan.

    After this, Bin Laden led Al-Qaeda to Bosnia shortly after the outbreak of war in 1992 to fight against Bosnian Serbs who were subsequently the target of NATO air strikes.

    Shortly before the NATO bombing of Yugoslavia in 1999, Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda moved into Kosovo, Serbia’s southern province, to aid the Kosovo Liberation Army, the Albanian terrorist faction that was being supported by the U.S. and NATO in its terror campaign against Serbs in the region.

    The United States, which had originally trained the Afghan Arabs during the war in Afghanistan, supported them in Bosnia and then in Kosovo.

    With the help of Bin Laden’s terror network, backed up by the U.S. and NATO, no less than 90% of Serbians were “ethnically cleansed” and forced to leave the region, while the international media played its role dutifully in portraying the Albanians as the “victims” of Serbian aggression.

    Barely weeks before 9/11, former members of Al-Qaeda who had subsequently joined the Kosovo Liberation Army were airlifted out of Macedonia by U.S. paratroopers.

    These are FACTS Ms. Bobin. They are not "conspiracy theories".

    Consider these conflicting statements from two U.S. Presidents about the Taliban / Al Qaeda (albeit from different points in time):

    "They hate our freedoms — our freedom of religion, our freedom of speech, our freedom to vote and assemble and disagree with each other."
    – George W. Bush, Address to a Joint Session of Congress and the American People, September 20, 2001

    "These (Taliban) gentlemen are the moral equivalents of America’s Founding Fathers."
    — Ronald Wilson Reagan in 1985 while introducing the Mujahideen leaders to media on the White House lawn.

    The answer to the contradiction is learning to embrace the deception as truth, whenever the State says to do so, just as Winston Smith finally "learns" in 1984– when he is compelled to find that 2+2=5.

    As John F. Kennedy once said, "The greatest enemy of the truth is not the lie – deliberate, contrived, and dishonest – but the myth – persistent, pervasive, and unrealistic."

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 11:30 am on Mon, Mar 5, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4485

    Interesting take, Mr. Liebich. I wonder what volume of conspiracy theories this one came from. While no one disagrees that the US & GB conspired to overthrow Mosaddeq, it had more to do with oil than gaining an alliance with Muslim fundamentalists, especially since they did restore the Shah to power. And we all know how that ended (except perhaps Mr. Liebich who probably hadn't even been born yet).

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 9:16 am on Mon, Mar 5, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2873

    The pattern of U.S. collaboration with Muslim fundamentalists against more secular enemies is not new. It dates back to at least 1953, when the CIA recruited right-wing mullahs to overthrow Prime Minister Mossadeq in Iran, and also began to cooperate with the Sunni Muslim Brotherhood. But in Libya in 2011 we see a more complex marriage of convenience between US and al-Qaeda elements: one which repeats a pattern seen in Bosnia in 1992-95, and Kosovo in 1997-98. In those countries America responded to a local conflict in the name of a humanitarian intervention to restrain the side committing atrocities. But in all three cases both sides committed atrocities, and American intervention in fact favored the side allied with al-Qaeda.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:51 am on Mon, Mar 5, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2813

    Excellent letter Ron.

    Under Islamic Law, the Koran must be burned if it is desecrated. My understanding is these soldiers unknowingly burned Korans that were desecrated and they are being punsihed for it. Even though they should have been burned anyway. Perhaps the method by which they were burned was unnacceptable. Then the soldiers should not be punshed for burning them at all.

     

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