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Posted: Monday, May 21, 2012 12:00 am | Updated: 6:19 am, Mon May 21, 2012.

This letter is a response to a letter written by Thomas Heuer titled, "Darrell Baumbach uses his letters to promote his political viewpoint, too," May 15.

Unfortunately, Mr. Heuer does not have an ability to see inside my heart. I was dismayed and disappointed in Cynthia Neely and the Lodi News-Sentinel for publishing an inflammatory letter. We need unity, not divisiveness.

Let us examine what Mr. Heuer says is "not" inflammatory.

Sharia law (god's law) dictates behaviors their followers must live by. The United Nations estimates that there are thousands of women killed annually under Sharia honor killings. There are female genital mutilations, young girl's arranged marriages, polygamy, and rules where women are excluded from inheritance, becoming dependent on men (Bin Laden had four wives under Sharia Law).

Under Sharia Law and the Koran, a wife is more a slave to a husband. The wife must submit to the husband's will, and can be severely punished if she simply does not cover her face. Women in Saudi Arabia are not even allowed to drive cars. They are treated as objects for men to use at their discretion.

If Mr. Heuer and Ms. Neely actually understood the pain, suffering and torture that is legally permitted under Sharia law, they might consider it inflammatory to compare and then equate it to anything conservatives are in favor of. Clearly, Ms. Neely could have easily made her point without using the image of Sharia law in her article. Inflammatory? Obviously, no doubt.

Darrell Baumbach

Acampo

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111 comments:

  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 5:23 pm on Tue, May 29, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Tillett stated…, no, no, say it isn't so... a teacher, a high school teacher having... having... opinions?!?!?!?! And sharing them publicly, egads, no. Oh, the humanity!

    Mr Tillet demonstrates very good humor…however, he missed the entire point at 3:21 pm on Tue, May 22, 2012….high school teacher who quotes Huffington Post often...liberals
    I was not stating the video itself was liberal or that he should not have opinions… I was stating that Mr Tillet is not objective as he many times posts information that was derived from a left wing biased organization like Huffington Post.
    One would expect teachers to have opinions…of course, but one also expects teachers to be fair and objective instead of a far left liberal.

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 5:09 pm on Sun, May 27, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    leelee: Do you suppose she should have looked the other way??? Sorry but I am with her...

    Teen says she was punished for trying to stop bullying of girl with mental disabilities

    Published May 27, 2012

    FoxNews.com Liberal papers won't print this kind of stuff

    Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/05/27/teen-says-was-punished-for-trying-to-stop-bullying-girl-with-mental/?test=latestnews#ixzz1w7OJDYPW

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 5:01 pm on Sun, May 27, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    LeeLee: Wellll at least you tried. Hint: the dictionary or thesaurus are not where you will find the answers. I know the answer as does DB, JK, JB, and several others on this site. AND it drives you crazy to know...doesn't it LeeLee....shhhhhhh.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 11:57 am on Sun, May 27, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Im sure KK Leelee does not have an answer or a dictionary as well.

    Darrell-ee and Patty and Stevee just cannot keep up with LeeLee... maybe LeeLee can buy a dictionary for all so we can look up the word "childish"...

    Thank you Kim Kim.

     
  • Kim Lee posted at 4:11 pm on Sat, May 26, 2012.

    Kim Lee Posts: 1798

    Maybe Patty doesn't have a dictionary.

     
  • Kim Lee posted at 4:11 pm on Sat, May 26, 2012.

    Kim Lee Posts: 1798

    FAIR;
    1.
    free from bias, dishonesty, or injustice: a fair decision; a fair judge.
    2.
    legitimately sought, pursued, done, given, etc.; proper under the rules: a fair fight.
    3.
    moderately large; ample: a fair income.
    4.
    neither excellent nor poor; moderately or tolerably good: fair health.
    5.
    marked by favoring conditions; likely; promising: in a fair way to succeed.

    EQUAL;
    1.
    as great as; the same as (often followed by to or with ): The velocity of sound is not equal to that of light.
    2.
    like or alike in quantity, degree, value, etc.; of the same rank, ability, merit, etc.: two students of equal brilliance.
    3.
    evenly proportioned or balanced: an equal contest.
    4.
    uniform in operation or effect: equal laws.
    5.
    adequate or sufficient in quantity or degree: The supply is equal to the demand.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 7:41 am on Sat, May 26, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    I am sure there is some point you are trying to make.

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 6:58 am on Sat, May 26, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    "You live your life"...as long as it is YOUR way with your rules? What you mean is you have NO idea what is fair and equal...just like your buddy BO.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 7:48 pm on Fri, May 25, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    I have heard this before but I will play along. I am saying you live your life. You had two job openings. You hired two people. Next case.

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 6:56 pm on Fri, May 25, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    mrl: Are you saying: tell 98 to go home and starve and do without their cell-phones then hire the two into underpaying jobs and let them die a slower death. So then where is the equality? Why not just let them ALL do without...that is equal and fair...to them...what about me and my needs, my children's needs, how will I pay my bills?

     
  • John Lucas posted at 3:50 pm on Fri, May 25, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    I think your brother got the brains in the family

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 3:29 pm on Fri, May 25, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    exactly what my brother would say... good one...

     
  • John Lucas posted at 2:08 pm on Fri, May 25, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    You said:
    in your case they only way to treat them equally is to withdraw the jobs.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    It is your idea that would be the only fair thing to do, not mine. Life is not fair but fairness is a goal. You obviously hire two and get on with your life.

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 1:55 pm on Fri, May 25, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    I am not the one who brought the subject up mrl...you did...along with your buddy BO. I simply want someone to explain what is equality and what is fair.
    Your answer is frivolous and lacks content.

    Hey..I have two jobs open...one for $200 and the other $250...two hundred people applied...all are equally qualified...they all have the same opportunity for the two jobs...in your case they only way to treat them equally is to withdraw the jobs.

    So what is fair?

     
  • John Lucas posted at 10:51 am on Fri, May 25, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    I am not sure who elected you as some sort of authority figure who can demand his subject to come to attention on his beck and call. If you have some ideas about Equality and fairness put them out there and maybe people will respond

     
  • John Lucas posted at 9:48 am on Fri, May 25, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    I will repeat what I said yesterday:

    In economics it is the goal of equal opportunity
    In law it is the idea that we are all equal under the law.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 9:45 am on Fri, May 25, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Let me condense into one sentence what you took so many words to say:

    You are afraid to have an open and honest debate on the issues.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 9:42 am on Fri, May 25, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Your post as most of your posts do perfectly illustrates my point.

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 9:17 am on Fri, May 25, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    I am waiting for an answer to the term Equal...what is equal? What is fair?

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 9:16 am on Fri, May 25, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    Holy cow!!! What a profundity!!!: "People who cannot do battle in the field of ideas deal in personal attacks." Wow...from you mrl?? Like calling people liars and tigers and bears? Oh my!! Liars and tigers and bears...Oh my!

    DB: Debate presupposes you have a platform or idea or subject or...something...there is little there and much here. That is why they have to ask questions before they know what is being debated. It is like bringing a spoon to a knife fight. Okay...I will explain...dull vs sharp.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 8:14 am on Fri, May 25, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    CONTINUED...

    Unfortunately, you also have a shortcoming that effects an accurate reality. It is a result of how you approach a situation. You have a preconceived idea of truth. You then search for evidence that your truth is accurate and apply those variables to substantiate your truth. Regrettably, that results in a false reality as you dismiss evidence that counters the preconceived idea of truth you maintain.

    I on the other hand do not take the same approach. I make an assumption that I do not know the answer. I do not know what truth is. I also take the assumption that truth today evolves and will change as new variables come to light that change what I thought truth was yesterday.

    I think it is impossible to debate someone like you. I never debate my brother on any issue as his process of evaluating truth is exactly like yours. I do debate many people, but never when they process information as you do.

    I say this in respect as I perceive your intent is constructive.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 8:09 am on Fri, May 25, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Lucas stated...It would be nice for you to just once put and idea on the table and defend it intellectually. You are incapable of doing that...

    Mr Lucas...I sincerely wish it were possible to debate you on issues and gain value from it.
    You have a desire to engage and participate in dialogue that you perceive will result in clarification of what is right and wrong, what is factual. I admire that character trait in you. I wish more people had it.

    However, having a desire has nothing to do with results. If I had a desire to turn an apple into an orange, it would remain a dream as that reality can never be achieved. My life's experiences are dramatically different than yours. You remind me very much of my brother. You have a high IQ and are quick in the thinking department. It does not take long for you to assess a situation and draw conclusions that form a basis of your reality. You have a good heart and desire for good things to come to others. You want justice for others and fight to achieve fairness for those who you perceive do not have it.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 4:13 pm on Thu, May 24, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    People who cannot do battle in the field of ideas deal in personal attacks. It would be nice for you to just once put and idea on the table and defend it intellectually. You are incapable of doing that. You run from putting your ideas on the table in intellectual combat. What do think that makes you?

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 3:29 pm on Thu, May 24, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Pat stated...Therefore, "Walk a Mile in My Shoes"...but keep an open mind...which I think many here do and many here do not. I know where you stand

    I agree with your thought... in addition, some here perceive their minds open yet it is sealed air tight. If you look at Johns post at 2:30 pm on Wed, May 23, 2012, you can see why he thinks like he does. Pat, our life's experiences are so similar, we intuitively know where out perspectives come from. John and Steve have not experienced what we have and find it difficult to comprehend what is common sense to us.

    I think we can both conclude that John and Steve lack experience that leave a void in their ability to connect the dots. I am not talking right and wrong... just ability to comprehend. They also have agendas that are sellfish.

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 9:45 am on Thu, May 24, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    DB: It is all perspective and desire. While you look at and describe the back your hand to me, I can only say that is not what I see...because I am looking at the palm of your hand...what discourse is, is the perceptive views...understanding comes when you turn your hand around. Still, at what angle to we come to agreement on...? Where the problem comes in is with those who are so blind they will not see. Therefore, "Walk a Mile in My Shoes"...but keep an open mind...which I think many here do and many here do not. I know where you stand.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 8:25 pm on Wed, May 23, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Again you misquote me...I stated I am against government mandates...you are only against specific mandates.You,like typical liberals, have no problem forcing me to accept government regulations and mandates that makes me feel violated. Only liberals can decide which mandates are acceptable...

    and to accurately state what I think... I am against government mandates that forces woman by law to have any kind of medical procedure before that woman decides to kill her unborn child. If a woman wants to end the life of her unborn baby, who am I to get in her way.

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 5:44 pm on Wed, May 23, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1666

    I knew you'ld be upset. There you go name calling again. And we were getting along so good.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 5:05 pm on Wed, May 23, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr. Lucas stated…None of this is material in the field of ideas Darrell ( in reference to Mr Lucas and his work experience) then stated… This has no bearing on the fact that most of your ideas are mindblowingly ignorant and stupid.

    Mr Lucas, thank you for sharing what you did in your working life over the years.. In my view, what each person perceives and ideas people generate are completely dependent on one’s life’s experience.
    That is how the phrase “Walk a mile in my shoes” became popular. I would agree with your point that ideas stand on their own However, opinions on an opinion forum vary and conclusions drawn are based on experience each person has .For example, I think your opinion of the trucking industry would be dramatically different than mine since I have never driven trucks. I think your opinion would be far better than mine in that category of discussion. So my idea would stand alone if I generated one as it relates to trucking but not likely accurate.
    Now that I know your experiences, it gives me a better understanding of why you draw conclusions that you do…

     
  • John Lucas posted at 4:55 pm on Wed, May 23, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Again with the look at me am I not great!!!! It gets a little tiresome. All of us have war stories even those that have never been to war. Life is about character not about what others think about you.
    I was in a horrible place in my life when I read a quote from Emerson. I will paraphrase it:
    You may think you are here to do great things in this life but the only thing you can give God is you character.

    That to me is what is important. What you or anyone else thinks is irrelevant. What are you hoping to achieve with this constant patting yourself on the back you do in your posts? Who are you trying to impress?

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 4:15 pm on Wed, May 23, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    local battlefield.

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 4:13 pm on Wed, May 23, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    In the 60's we didn't worry about another person's persuasions...unlike you do today. Gay wasn't even a word. Are you aware that 60% of all men are sexually molested before the age of 18? Ring a bell mrl?

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 4:09 pm on Wed, May 23, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    l: I have to leave the mr off this one: "We all want to know did you get off beating up on gay kids?" Who is WE...? Who are you with? Once again...stupid.

    mrh: I wonder how mr savage would view you comment/accusation??? Homophobic??

    How about if I gave someone a drink out of my water bottle? Maybe a bite of my food using my fork? Maybe give them a pair of my socks? Blew some air into their lungs? Kept them alive until help arrived? Carried them from the battlefield then bandaged their wounds? KIssed a man on the lips? Because I have done them all.

    Challenge those mrhomophobe. You too l.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 2:30 pm on Wed, May 23, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Over the years I was an owner operator I probably hired between 30 and 35 drivers most out of trucking schools. I fired four of them. I hired two nephews both of whom had no experience. One had been kicked out of the Navy and my brother begged me to hire him. I did so against my better judgement but he turned out to be one of the best drivers I ever have had. The other not so good. I had friends who were out of work and put them to work till something came up for them in a field they would be happier at.I have trained over a hundred drivers for other companies. If you want I will give you references and they will tell you that I can take a driver no one wants and make a driver out of him.
    I had a truck leased to a company that had more than 600 trucks leased to it. The last year I was there my truck made more money than any other truck in the fleet and I was #8 in miles for the year.
    Many years ago I was in restaurant management. I hired and fired many people. I was good at the business but hated it.

    I got into trucking because after Vietnam because I would stay 2 and days at a time not using drugs or anything. The fear of the nightmares is something most people do not understand. In trucking you can drive until exhaustion takes you to sleep. I took that disability to trucking and made good money because of it.

    None of this is material in the field of ideas Darrell. An idea stands on its own. You are a good example. You are an insurance guy who has hired and fired a few secretaries. This has no bearing on the fact that most of your ideas are mindblowingly ignorant and stupid.

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 2:14 pm on Wed, May 23, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1666

    I've been having my suspicions but... well it comes out now that Darrell and Pat share the same tube of Chapstick. How long has this been going on the readers want to know. Now shared Chapstick can't be a false accusation.

    You know what they say, flapping lips sink... Oh I can't go there. Pat would get upset.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 1:55 pm on Wed, May 23, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Actually, I am much more interested in the businesses mr Lucas has created and run that gave him the ability to give his economic conclusions that he constantly refers to...

    How many companies have to created and how many employees have you trained, hired and fired Mr Lucas? You have been asked repeatedly yet avoid an answer.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 1:51 pm on Wed, May 23, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Ms Bobin... I would love my lips to stop flapping as you so colorfully stated...the problem is all that hot air coming you and your friends creates a stong warm wind that comes my way which causes them to flap... If you would only stop distorting truth, I could give my poor exhaused lips a rest... unfortunately, you and I both know that your hot air has an endless supply and will continue... causing my lips to keep flapping away... just a reality that I accept.

    Pat...Please pass the ChapStick....

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 11:24 am on Wed, May 23, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Darrell Baumbach will not stop until he has the last word on this subject, as on any other subject, thus the 7K posts.

    And then he complains that false accusations are being made about him when, in fact, if he would stop flapping his lips, he wouldn't have to play the victim.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 10:30 am on Wed, May 23, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    yea, right

    By the way Pat, we all are dying to hear the details of the following:

    watched the punk also...this guy is a punk...the same kind of punk that I used to kick the carp out of in high school.

    We all want to know did you get off beating up on gay kids? As most people are not bullies we would like to know how it feels to go after kids weaker than you and as you say"I used to kick the carp out of in high school." A bully actually admitting this sort of thing is a rare and we would like at the inside the mind of someone who openly glorifies such behavior. I know you will not let us down

     
  • John Lucas posted at 7:45 am on Wed, May 23, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Thank you Darrell for clearing that up for me. I am glad that you are against any unnecessary medical procedures for women proscribed by law before a women can have an abortion.

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 6:15 am on Wed, May 23, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    Hey...I just got the mrl and mrh connection!!! Buying and driving...crazy isn't it.

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 6:13 am on Wed, May 23, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    mrh: You buy crazy every day...especially in your dreams.

    DB: I look at these arguments like someone has thrown garbage on my front lawn...at first I get mad...then I clean it up...then I proceed to find out who did it...then I clean their clocks...only here it is verbally. You seem to do quite well as well. Thanks

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 6:08 am on Wed, May 23, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    Legislators vs legislation...producer vs product...climte vs weather...morons vs outcome...Legislators can be bullied or outvoted vs legislation that stinks. I vote to cut taxes you vote to raise taxes...if you win I pay taxes...

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 5:24 am on Wed, May 23, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Lucas stated...You are not consistent and are taking both sides of the issue. Could you not be a little clearer on where you stand on making women have unnecessary medical procedures before having an abortion?

    Mr Lucas... when someone states they are against mandates on medical procedures as well as mandates on forced Social Security participation, it is not obvious that this person is against woman having unnecessary medical procedures as well as against forcing people to participate in a government retirement plan.
    It is so obvious that your question seems ridiculous. How could it be any more clear.

    Condemning legislators for government mandates is a complete unrelated topic which you are somehow trying to link.

    What I am condemning in the article though is the hatred and divisiveness that you and Ms Neely are spreading by participating in false inflammatory language which encourages animosity in our country.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 8:49 pm on Tue, May 22, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Darrell, this is what drives people crazy. Here are two of your statements:

    I do not support mandating Social Security, health care ( Obamacare) or legislation that mandates medical testing. I am consistent.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------

    then you say:

    However, I do not condemn legislators that make abortion legal nor do I condemn legislators mandating various medical tests.

    ------------------------------------------------------------------

    You are not consistent and are taking both sides of the issue. Could you not be a little clearer on where you stand on making women have unnecessary medical procedures before having an abortion?

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 8:10 pm on Tue, May 22, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    MR HEUER STATED THE FOLLOWING
    01. Give it up for your own sanity…

    Response… Actually, I am very appreciative and enthusiastic for the opportunity to express my opinions in this forum. I am comfortable, relaxed , and inspired when providing alternate thoughts and perspectives that rebut liberal ideas…

    02. You've already insulted everyone including Jeff and now you want to reason with Jeff?
    Response… Oh no, I have learned long ago that it is a waste of time and energy to reason with liberals like Jeff and you. As far as your perception that I was insulting “everyone”, I am surprised. I thought calling a liberal a liberal was simply a factual statement that most liberals appreciate. Everything I stated was intended to appeal to people who appreciate accuracy in describing people’s political positions and character.

    03. And your surprised at a newspaper would print stuff for a profit?
    Response…You did not read my post accurately Mr Heuer…I did not talk about “stuff” as you described. I talked about inflammatory articles like the one Ms. Neely submitted in order to make profit…That is completely different. Please focus and be more accurate

     
  • Jeff Tillett posted at 5:44 pm on Tue, May 22, 2012.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 555

    you'll have to take the spaces out of the link to the blaze, becuase q u e e r s is a bad word... i guess...

     
  • Jeff Tillett posted at 5:43 pm on Tue, May 22, 2012.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 555

    Darel Baumbac, no, no, say it isn't so... a teacher, a high school teacher having... having... opinions?!?!?!?! And sharing them publicly, egads, no. Oh, the humanity!

    Here's a link about the pastor, NOT from huffpost... Are his words any more offensive, now?
    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/pastor-delivers-anti-gay-rant-suggests-building-electric-142753831.html;_ylt=A2KJjan0L7xPeDYAt8_QtDMD

    how about now?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4QYzzZzaAY

    now?
    http://myfox8.com/2012/05/21/nc-pastor-suggests-putting-homosexuals-in-electrified-fence-during-sermon/

    how about now?
    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/pastor-get-rid-of-all-the-lesbians-q u e e r s-by-trapping-them-with-an-electric-fence-eventually-theyll-die-off/

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 5:11 pm on Tue, May 22, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1666

    Darrell said "I would respond to this accusation (from JL "no defense for what Ms Neely said") but I would just be repeating what has already been stated over and over." And your the only one saying and repeating it. Again give it up.

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 4:58 pm on Tue, May 22, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1666

    DB's "However, my concern is with Ms Neely "
    Give it up for your own sanity. You've already insulted everyone including Jeff and now you want to reason with Jeff? And your surprised at a news paper would print stuff for a profit? You've never heard of the liberal media your friends talk of? And you led me to believe you had some business sense. I can't tell you how disappointed I am because I'm not surprised at all.

    And Pat are you trying to insult me? OK for the sake of humoring you my return is, I quit paying a long time ago in my sleep so there are no deliveries. I think thats a queen to bishop 3.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 4:34 pm on Tue, May 22, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Darrell, this is what drives people crazy. Here are two of your statements:

    I do not support mandating Social Security, health care ( Obamacare) or legislation that mandates medical testing. I am consistent.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------

    then you say:

    However, I do not condemn legislators that make abortion legal nor do I condemn legislators mandating various medical tests.

    ------------------------------------------------------------------

    You are not consistent and are taking both sides of the issue. Could you not be a little clearer on where you stand on making women have unnecessary medical procedures before having an abortion?

     
  • John Lucas posted at 4:06 pm on Tue, May 22, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Darrell, this is what drives people crazy. Here are two of your statements:

    I do not support mandating Social Security, health care ( Obamacare) or legislation that mandates medical testing. I am consistent.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------

    then you say:

    However, I do not condemn legislators that make abortion legal nor do I condemn legislators mandating various medical tests.

    ------------------------------------------------------------------

    You are not consistent and are taking both sides of the issue. Could you not be a little clearer on where you stand on making women have unnecessary medical procedures before having an abortion?

     
  • John Lucas posted at 3:57 pm on Tue, May 22, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Wow, Pat. It would be much easier to say I cannot answer your arguments than do this kind of nonsense. You have the soul of a bully. You really have no sense of shame.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 3:51 pm on Tue, May 22, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Though we all love the post above we really would like to have more of the following when you said in talking about the gay guy Dan Savage:

    I watched the punk also...this guy is a punk...the same kind of punk that I used to kick the carp out of in high school.
    ------------------------------------------------------------------
    Your hero Romney cannot remember the incident in his fun but does remember he did not know the guy was gay. You not only remember your incidents but from your words knew they were gay. Why don't you regale us with some of these stories of you great manhood? We are all ears.

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 3:39 pm on Tue, May 22, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    mrh: I think you purchase it in your sleep.

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 3:32 pm on Tue, May 22, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1666

    Pat
    Go tell your nurse you need to take your medicine your starting to talk about my paycheck as if you think you might get some. Sorry I'm not buying any crazy today.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 3:29 pm on Tue, May 22, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Tillet stated...That incites discussion on these pages, with the intended goal of increasing ad revenue, not hatred

    Interesting point. However, my concern is with Ms Neely who wrote the article . Unless she is participating in Lodi News profits, her motive would be as I stated.

    Are you serious when you state that Lodi News Sentinel would actually encourage an inflamatory letter like Ms Neely's for profit? Is that your contention?

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 3:21 pm on Tue, May 22, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Thanks much for your comical post Mr Heuer. Now posting often on the opinion forum is equivalent to outright arrogance... good one!!!!!!

    So who exactly on this thread disagrees with me....hummm.... I have to admit, I am honored to have a Lodi liberal fanatical group , who thinks it is ok to link and equate American conservatives with the torture and abuse woman are subjected to under Sharia Law, all oppose what I think all in one thread.
    In this entire thread, there not one reasonable rebuttal to my position that Cynthia Neely's article was inflammatory... just what I expected because my position is irrefutable.

    01 Mr Heuer...ultra liberal
    02. John Lucas... ultra radical liberal who thinks Omama is too conservative
    03. Jeff Tillet... high school teacher who quotes Huffington Post often...libersl
    04. Eric Barrow extreme liberal who stated violence is ok to achieve political ends
    05. Joanne Bobin who sees Bigots around every corner in Lodi and thinks Stewart comedy show is a documentary... radical angry liberal
    06. Steve Schmidt who is ...anti everything conservative... ultra liberal....

    So please keep up the good work and continue to make derogatory childish comments. It speaks clearly as to the irrational character of liberals everywhere.

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 2:57 pm on Tue, May 22, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    mrh: Stop letting your wife pay your bills.

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 2:55 pm on Tue, May 22, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    mrh: "The majority of postings on this page disagree with Darrell." ???????

    A bean counter you are not...take some lessons from mrb...is your paycheck late?

    "Thats why his posts are always vague and imprecise... DB??? Imprecise??? Horse pucky and duck putrinonomy. "ubiquitousness"...oooooo....a BIG word.

    msb: "truth"...as has been tested MANY Billions of times is in the eye of the witnesses. My grandmother and mother did not allow us to spit. Only when we are up to bat.

    mrl: Stupid

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 11:34 am on Tue, May 22, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1666

    Again John you are right on the money.

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 11:30 am on Tue, May 22, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1666

    Yes yes yes. Jeff you said it so well it bears repeating.
    To Darrell, "Many here find it ironic that you are castigating division when you are often the most guilty of the same, and that the ubiquitousness of your posts (6773) can give off an air of faux-omniscience or outright arrogance."

    The majority of postings on this page disagree with Darrell. He has little support here even with his repeated rehash of the "inflamatory outrage" line. Darrell has no real issue he just wants to be right. Thats why his posts are always vague and imprecise to give him wiggle room to change his position in any direction that will allow him to be right.

    As Eric said; Darrell posting ad nauseam shows the degree self importance he has for his own opinion. The fact that he needs to respond to every letter and every comment and that he keeps a file of postings shows an obsession that borders on unhealthy."

     
  • Jeff Tillett posted at 9:23 am on Tue, May 22, 2012.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 555

    Darrell, you do realize that LNS wants to publish inflammatory letters, right? That incites discussion on these pages, with the intended goal of increasing ad revenue, not hatred. It's why they continue to publish other inflammatory letters, like those of Mr. Osgood. Many here find it ironic that you are castigating division when you are often the most guilty of the same, and that the ubiquitousness of your posts (6773) can give off an air of faux-omniscience or outright arrogance.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 8:07 am on Tue, May 22, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Darrell, this is what drives people crazy. Here are two of your statements:

    I do not support mandating Social Security, health care ( Obamacare) or legislation that mandates medical testing. I am consistent.

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    then you say:

    However, I do not condemn legislators that make abortion legal nor do I condemn legislators mandating various medical tests.

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    You are not consistent and are taking both sides of the issue. Could you not be a little clearer on where you stand on making women have unnecessary medical procedures before having an abortion?

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 8:01 am on Tue, May 22, 2012.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1591

    Darrell posting ad nauseam shows the degree self importance he has for his own opinion. The fact that he needs to respond to every letter and every comment and that he keeps a file of postings shows an obsession that borders on unhealthy.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:48 am on Tue, May 22, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Ms Bobin stated...Do not follow what the Democrats or Republicans put out?"
    This is the same person who got into a real tiff and threatened not to attend a local TEA Party meeting because Mr. Miller stated that Ms. Parigoris hated Republicans as much as Democrats! HAHAHAHA !!!!! ( Mr Miller also stated he hated them as well)

    It is comforting to have consistency in life. Ms Bobin is very consistent in misinterpreting and distorting. So thank you for the comfort Ms Bobin.

    I did state that I would not attend a meeting with Mr Miller as you described. However, you completely missed the reason why.
    I do not think it appropriate that any group focus on hate. I stated I do not hate anyone. I do not enjoy going to meetings that hate is the motivation for others to attend. There are more important things in life than issues. Love and respect and living by principles is more valuable than attending a meeting even if I agree with their philosophy.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 5:59 am on Tue, May 22, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Lucas stated...The Conservative Republicans have no defense for what Ms Neely said in her letter so they trot out the inflammatory dodge.

    I would respond to this accusation but I would just be repeating what has already been stated over and over.

    It is obvious that Mr Lucas does not "perceive" Ms Neely's article inflammatory as he thinks what she had to say was accurate and simply truth.

    I disagree. In my view, it is so obvious that it is inexplicable how anyone cannot understand how fostering animosity and hatred is the intended goal..unless of course one is blinded by the hate they have within. If you observe the content of Mr Lucas and his posts, it is obvious.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 1:11 am on Tue, May 22, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Looks like we fell for the old trick. The Conservative Republicans have no defense for what Ms Neely said in her letter so they trot out the inflammatory dodge. It is just a way for them not to discuss the assertions she made in her letter. You have to hand it to them. They are good at running away from defending what the Conservative Republican state houses are doing all over America.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 9:29 pm on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1904

    Careful there Darrell, the "L" man says he sits on the right hand of God. Lightning bolts can be painful, even deadly.

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 8:04 pm on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2367

    Are we now to be judged by the volume of our post-count rather than the content of our character? I say turn off the counters!! Turn them off! Turn them off! Turn them off! Turn them off! Turn them off! Turn them off! Turn them off! Turn them off! Turn them off! Turn them off! Turn them off! Turn them off! Turn them off! Turn them off! Turn them off! Turn them off! Turn them off! Turn them off! Turn them off! Turn them off! Turn them off! Turn them off! Turn them off! Turn them off! Turn them off! Turn them off!

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 8:01 pm on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2367

    And to think Mr. Baumbach, that posting nearly 7,000 messages is now deemed to be something to be ashamed of rather than as you rightfully state it's irrelevant. The only one counting is the LNS file server. And just why do they include these stats as we bicker amongst ourselves? Perhaps Mr. Simon Birch would care to reveal its true purpose. How about it Web Master - why the numbers? To what end are they revealed?

     
  • Kurt Roberts posted at 7:45 pm on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    Kurt Roberts Posts: 55

    Even the devil has the ability to quote Scripture when it serves his purpose. Some of you should be wary of who you associate with...

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 7:00 pm on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Maple wrote: "mrl: Stupid...(Deuteronomy 22:23-24)...and that is practiced here today? The Salem witch hunt is also a thing of the past."

    Wait long enough and one of these jokers will trip and spit out the truth.

    What Mr. Maple said is EXACTLY the point Dan Savage was making when he addressed the high school journalists convention.

    WE DON'T DO THAT ANYMORE!!!!

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 6:54 pm on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    "Do not follow what the Democrats or Republicans put out?"

    This is the same person who got into a real tiff and threatened not to attend a local TEA Party meeting because Mr. Miller stated that Ms. Parigoris hated Republicans as much as Democrats! HAHAHAHA !!!!!

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 6:48 pm on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Baumbach wrote: "My complaint is the inappropriate and inflammatory language used by people like Ms Neely which results in animosity and hatred evidenced by the attitudes from liberals who post comments in this very paper."

    So where was your indignation when Wade Heath flat out lied about a proposed change in immigration policy that inflamed people's resentment toward illegal aliens? I think you are quite the fabricator, Mr. Baumbach.

    Mr. Baumbach wrote: "As far as the number of posts I have, I cannot imagine anyone anywhere could give a hoot...It is irrelevant. 64.347% of my posts are intended to correct misinformation that people like Mr Heuer post. "

    That's a REAL good one. YOU are the first to post comments usually and as far as you self-appointed role of "correcting" others misinformation, that's a HOOT. Most of your Google searches dig up obscure references to a topic that support your POV, nothing more.

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 6:42 pm on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2610

    I didn't need to answer your questions about religion, Mr Lucas already did it for me.

    That said, I am regularly astounded by the number of conservative Christians who are ignorant of the contents of the Old Testament and even the Gospels. Millions died in the wars of the Protestant Reformation fighting, in part, for the right of common men to read the Bible for themselves, you would think the least their successors could do is to actually crack the book open once in a while.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 5:36 pm on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Darrell, I was answering a question by Pat. Would you be so kind as to answer mine so I can understand where you stand .

    Could you not be a little clearer on where you stand on making women have unnecessary medical procedures before having an abortion?

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 5:19 pm on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr lucas stated...Stone him to death, because he tried to turn you away from the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. (Deuteronomy 13:6-10)

    Could Mr Lucas post something more irrelevant that reviewing Deuteronomy? Maybe.. but then he would be talking about life before dinosaurs.

    The point of the letter is current events. Conservatives are being accused or participating in Sharia Law type behavior in the year 2012 by Ms Neely as a guest writer for the Lodi News Sentinel.
    She was not talking about something that happened 2000 years ago...ancient history She was talking about the here and now.

    There was no reason to equate current conservatives to current treatment of woman under current Sharia Law. Even Mr Lucas who defends Ms Neely cannot discuss this objectively.

    Please wake up Mr Lucas and focus on 2012.. 1000 BC to 500 AD is just a bit off topic. Since you are commenting on something I wrote and since I do not practice religion, why in the world are you talking about biblical history?

     
  • John Lucas posted at 5:16 pm on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Darrell, you are liar. You are also weaseling out of answering the simple questions I asked you. You just said that you are against legislation that mandates medical testing. Does this mean you do not support the unnecessary medical tests for women seeking abortion?

    this is what drives people crazy. Here are two of your statements:

    I do not support mandating Social Security, health care ( Obamacare) or legislation that mandates medical testing. I am consistent.
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    then you say:

    However, I do not condemn legislators that make abortion legal nor do I condemn legislators mandating various medical tests.
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    You are not consistent and are taking both sides of the issue. Could you not be a little clearer on where you stand on making women have unnecessary medical procedures before having an abortion?


     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 5:14 pm on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1666

    ignorance and unknowing? And the difference is?

    I don't know Pat you may be headed in both directions in your "big girl panties"

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 5:05 pm on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1666

    Hey "bbhead" (your word) you asked where in the bible and he got it for you.Whats the problem? Is it practived today and I say its all a matter of degree. Now you like your little zen cohens. Go figure.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 5:01 pm on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    CONTINUED...

    You ( Mr Lucas) on the other hand are inconsistent. You think it is horrible to mandate testing but think it wonderful to mandate social security. I asked you if people should have freedom to opt out if they do not want mandated Social Security benefits and you advised me to move to a different country if I did not like it.

    Notice I did not advise you to move to a different country if you did not like medical testing mandates.

    I have no idea how you drew a conclusion you did. I have never stated anything that would support your contention.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 5:00 pm on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Lucas stated...This the first I have heard that you were against this legislation...

    No Mr Lucas... this is the first time you were able to comprehend what I stated... you always start preaching and giving sermons about conservatives and religion in general instead of reading what I am actually saying. It is why I say it is meaningless to debate you as you hear and see what you want, not what is.

    I am a conservative that does not practice a religion. I do not follow what the Republicans or Democrats put out. I also do not support government mandates in general.
    I do not support mandating Social Security, health care ( Obamacare) or legislation that mandates medical testing. I am consistent.

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 4:56 pm on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1666

    John your a kind man for doing the conservatives work for them: again.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 4:40 pm on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Thank you Mr Lucas for again demonstrating inflammatory speech... you are very good at it. You must be a proud liberal.

    You and Ms Neely must appreciate and enjoy the division and animosity you both intend to provoke. Quite childish actually. To equate the kind of abuse woman suffer under Sharia Law with conservatives in USA is absurd.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 4:35 pm on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    Yes, so stupid of me. You said:

    Sooo...at least one of you bbheads should be able to show me where in the Bible or any civilized religion where it states that a woman shall be stoned to death.
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    Please interpret for me the sentence you wrote. I know, you being so smart, that I have to be missing something here.

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 4:28 pm on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1666

    Oh this was remarkably special. I may need to quote you again. You know I'm a bit embarassed to ask but what is that hidden meaning behind tea bagger. Is it like Santorum. I do know that when ever you say "rock and rol"l its original meaning was akin to the saying "if its rockin don't bother knocken."

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 4:21 pm on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1666


    well said John

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 4:19 pm on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    mrl: Stupid...(Deuteronomy 22:23-24)...and that is practiced here today? The Salem witch hunt is also a thing of the past.

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 4:18 pm on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    mrss: There is a huge difference between ignorance and unknowing. Taxed Enough Already comes from a conservative perspective...t--b------g comes from the homosexual act...something most coservative had/have never heard of. What they do is their business...until they try to foist it and their lifestyle on me. I find it interesting that you defended this argument and did not answer my religious faiths questions. ?

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 4:18 pm on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1666

    These remarks that you feel are clever only take me on nostalgia trips to elementary scholol where they must have come from. No one else uses them at least over 7 years old. Amd as for your "put on your big-girl panties..." Please keep your cross dressing to yourself.

    BTW Pat said "with some being my superior..." Lets see that 9 billion and counting.

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 3:26 pm on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2610

    Pat, it is time for you to put on your reading glasses and your thinkin cap. Of course I support equal rights for women. My support for those rights is just one of the countless reasons why I oppose the Teabag Taliban and their minions.

    As for the term "Teabagger", I find it more ironic than uncouth. What two gentlemen do in the privacy of their own home is their business but when homophobic social fascists take up such a term and decide to embrace it for themselves, well....you can't help but stand up and cheer the unintentional self mockery.

    If you insist on thinking of the term as "vile", that is fine as well. A "vile" term for vile people.....

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 2:40 pm on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1591

    mrm does that hold true for the Tea Party members who used it in their rallies. Cause I'm thinking that it wasn't the last time the tea party didn't know what they were talking about.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 2:09 pm on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    If a man happens to meet in a town a virgin pledged to be married and he sleeps with her, you shall take both of them to the gate of that town and stone them to death?the girl because she was in a town and did not scream for help, and the man because he violated another man's wife. You must purge the evil from among you. (Deuteronomy 22:23-24)

    If a man or woman living among you in one of the towns the LORD gives you is found doing evil in the eyes of the LORD your God in violation of his covenant, and contrary to my command has worshiped other gods, bowing down to them or to the sun or the moon or the stars of the sky, and this has been brought to your attention, then you must investigate it thoroughly. If it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done in Israel, take the man or woman who has done this evil deed to your city gate and stone that person to death. (Deuteronomy 17:2-

    If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, "Let us go and worship other gods" (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people. Stone him to death, because he tried to turn you away from the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery. (Deuteronomy 13:6-10)

    There are more. In the new testament Jesus saved the woman from stoning by law. These took about one minute to fined on the internet Pat

     
  • John Lucas posted at 2:02 pm on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    In response to Mr Heuers commit that Darrell was for the laws concerning tranvaginal probe he said:

    I have stated that I am against this legislation. I also am against abortion where the lives of unborn babies are ended. However, I do not condemn legislators that make abortion legal nor do I condemn legislators mandating various medical tests.

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    This the first I have heard that you were against this legislation. I asked you point blank several times about this and you gave the impression you were for this. You would have saved everyone the outrage one feels for people who support the shaming of women.
    However I see you are weaseling out with the rest of your statement. I will again ask you point blank. Which of these medically unnecessary medical tests do you support and most importantly why do you support these medically unnecessary tests on women seeking abortion? Where is your limit on the shame the law inflicts on women?

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 1:53 pm on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    Joe...good points.

    Assininity: mrss: "Divorce is legal for now but that will not last a day longer than the opposition to their tyrannical Crusade." Which proves and prompts the current beliefs you squander within your mind...that most men believe women are their equal...apparently you do not or don't want to...I most certainly do...with some being my superior...you quite frankly, are not.

    I can blame you for anything you write stevie. 'Cause you wrote it!" Annnnd you were supposed to research it before you printed it.

    mrh: Please! Go put on your big-girl panties (slang for "grow up")..."OOps I missused Jeffs quote." Women have been rulers, warriors, senators and tribal leaders for centuries...read your history.

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 1:35 pm on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    Sooo...at least one of you bbheads should be able to show me where in the Bible or any civilized religion where it states that a woman shall be stoned to death.

    Annnd...I do not give one spit in h-e-l-l about where the term started, who bastardized it or who defends its use...if you do use it it only goes to show your ignorance, stunted language skills and lack of couth.

    As far as the number of posts a person makes...the more the merrier...it shows me that someone is actually listening to and counter-insurging the carp.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 1:32 pm on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    I do not understand why Conservative Republicans hate these Muslims who like Sharia Law. The difference as Ms Neely pointed out so well in her letter that it is just a matter of degree. The main difference between the Muslims that are forced to live under Sharia law and us is that we have managed to hold the American Taliban (Conservative Religious Republicans) at bay. If Pat Robertson had the power he would most certainly would shove his religious ideas on us for as we all know God talks to him. The evidence is in the laws the Republican controlled state houses have passed. Religious fanatics are Religious fanatics whether they are Christian, Muslim, Jewish or anything else.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 1:06 pm on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    As far as the number of posts I have, I cannot imagine anyone anywhere could give a hoot...It is irrelevant. 64.347% of my posts are intended to correct misinformation that people like Mr Heuer post.
    Since truth and accuracy is of concern to me, I think it responsible to clarify misinformation. If Mr. Heuer is concerned about the number of posts I submit, I suggest he stop participating in gossip and be more accurate with his comments. That will result in fewer posts by me.

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 1:04 pm on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1666

    OOps I missused Jeffs quote. My bad

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 12:55 pm on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405


    Mr Heuer stated.... DB can't even condem conservatives attempting to mandate transvaginal probes in this country...

    Again, Mr Heuer is misinformed and busy with gossip.

    I have stated that I am against this legislation. I also am against abortion where the lives of unborn babies are ended. However, I do not condemn legislators that make abortion legal nor do I condemn legislators mandating various medical tests.
    My complaint is the inappropriate and inflammatory language used by people like Ms Neely which results in animosity and hatred evidenced by the attitudes from liberals who post comments in this very paper.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 12:50 pm on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1904

    I agree, Ms. Neely could have clearly stated her opion without interjecting "Sharia Law" in the article. Why didn't she also include Hitler, Taliban and any other words that she knew full well would incite readers.

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 11:32 am on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1666

    Rights to divorce are recent like women owning property, right to vote, etc. Pats gobbdy goop re: "the wife submits to the SERVANT leadership of her husband.." is the same kind of rational men have used to dominate women . Its a matter of degree we are talking of here. The bible like the koran all contain the same ancient middle east customs and euphamistic justifications. And yes I fear any heresy and blasphemy lawsof of any religion.

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 11:15 am on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1666

    DB said "Mr. Heuer does not have an ability to see inside my heart."
    Eric just said it best "Darrell, with 6756 post on LNS and numerous LTE your heart is not quite as hidden as you think."

    DB said "I was dismayed and disappointed in Cynthia Neely and the Lodi News-Sentinel for publishing an inflammatory letter." Really, sharia law? DB can't even condem conservatives attempting to mandate transvaginal probes in this country,
    Jeff points out "'Jay Nordlinger at National Review Online later admits: "Conservatives started [using the term]... but others ran and ran with it."'

    DB said "We need unity, not divisiveness." Coming from DB Oh excuse me this is a real gag me moment. Yeah you and your tag team partner Pat Maple have not exactly earned any mother Teresa awards in the LNS posts here. Of course to DB unity is not haveing a different opinion than him.

    Eric how many posts? "Darrell, with 6756 post on LNS and numerous LTE..."
    Thanks again Eric.

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 11:06 am on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2367

    Indeed, Mr. Tillett offered a compendium of the chronological order that brought the term to fruition. It is extremely doubtful that those who gathered peacefully on the Mall in Washington, D.C. with their "tea bag" signage ever once considered there was a derogatory use of the term prior to their temporarily adopting it.

    I also wonder what President Obama thought about his use of the term after learning what he was actually referring to. If he continued to include it to denounce the movement, then he’s no better than anyone else.

    It's clear those here while claiming innocence as they use it to describe this ever-growing movement against the over-reaching government and their confiscatory taxes are not being honest. If they were they'd also stop using the phrase and use just the letters "TEA" to identify them. But the far-left don't think that way. No, the more foul-mouthed, foul-acting they can be to get their point across the better. I am certainly not a liberal/progressive, but I defy anyone to identify where I’ve ever distorted any ones or any things name in my efforts to try and change minds or educate on the conservative ideology. I’ve always considered such tactics to not only be useless and tasteless, but childish as well.

    Regardless, I would still like to know where Mr. Schmidt got his information regarding this subject.

     
  • Jeff Tillett posted at 9:31 am on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 555

    http://theweek.com/article/index/202620/the-evolution-of-the-word-tea-bagger

    'Jay Nordlinger at National Review Online later admits: "Conservatives started [using the term]... but others ran and ran with it."'

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 8:41 am on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2367

    I'd be interested in reviewing the source behind this claim. If true (which it very well could be), whoever coined it was oblivious as to how that term is used in a sexual manner.

    As for the TEA ("T"axed "E"nough "A"lready) movement's attempt to destroy American Democracy, that's sheer nonsense. I suppose then those who tossed all that tea into the Boston Harbor didn't care much about freedom either.

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 8:04 am on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2610

    As for the term "teabagger" it was coined by the Teabag Taliban themselves. You can hardly blame me for referring to these noxious pustules on the colon of humanity by their own terms. You say the term disgusts you but what should really disgust you is the way these treasonous scumbags are attempting to destroy 200 years of American Democracy.

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 8:03 am on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2610

    Pat, what does the Bible say about divorce and what role do conservatives believe God's Law should play in American law? Divorce is legal for now but that will not last a day longer than the opposition to their tyrannical Crusade.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 7:24 am on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1591

    Darrell, with 6756 post on LNS and numerous LTE your heart is not quite as hidden as you think.

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 6:56 am on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    mrss: Big difference and you know it. A Baptist wife can divorce their husband. They are also protected by other tenents of the religion. The line is the wife submits to the SERVANT leadership of her husband. In other words the husband is to SERVE the wife as best he can using his best judgement...just as the church submits to the tenents of Christ. Understand something before you start bashing it.

    Additionally, we have had the discussion of the T word before...it is disgusting. You are quickly losing creedence as an adversarial voice. Calling me an idiot or stupid is one thing this is another. Sxeaul connotations has no place in verbal discourse. Don't make me invoke my grandma!

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 5:08 am on Mon, May 21, 2012.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2610

    Darrell wrote: "Under Sharia Law and the Koran......the wife must submit to the husband's will"

    Chuckle.... I guess they got that from the Southern Baptists?

    From the 18th Article of Baptists Faith and Message: ""A wife is to submit graciously to the servant leadership of her husband, even as the church willingly submits to the headship of Christ,"

    How ironic that folks like DB decry Islamic Sharia law while they (and their allies in the Teabag Taliban) try to institute the fundamentalist Christian version right here in the United States.

     

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