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Posted: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 12:00 am

Did anyone listen the hearings with Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Gen. Martin Dempsey on the Benghazi response of our government, where four Americans were murdered?

President Obama was completely disengaged from the events taking place in Benghazi. He was in a scheduled — not an unscheduled emergency — meeting when he was told the embassy was under attack. What Panetta and Dempsey testified was that Obama left the situation in Benghazi in their hands.

In the eight hours of attacks on the embassy, the president of the U.S. and commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces never called Panetta or Dempsey for updates. When asked if Secretary of State Hillary Clinton had been informed, they said they couldn't get in touch with her. An embassy under her command is attacked and Americans are being killed, and no one can get in touch with her! Where were Obama and Clinton during these crucial eight hours?

I wrote about this right after it happened, and related that having combat experience myself I know that when Woods was told to paint the enemy positions with his laser, which meant there were assets in the area close enough to bring ordnance to bear on the target(s). Why wasn't that ordnance fired? Because the only individual in our government who has authority to order such an attack across sovereign borders is the President of the U.S., who, according to Panetta and Gen. Dempsey, was completely disengaged from events unfolding in Benghazi. All the military could do without that authorization from the president was to send what assets they had in-country, which was the seven-man crew in Tripoli.

So when Obama looks into the camera and tells you he did everything humanly possible to help our people, think of Bill Clinton pointing that stubby little finger at us and saying, "I did not have sex with that woman." And when Hillary Clinton tells the Senate committee, "What difference does it make how they died at Benghazi?" Hillary, it makes all the difference in the world to those who you allowed to be murdered — tell her their blood is on her hands and the hands of that poor excuse for a president: Obama!

Ron Portal

Lodi

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52 comments:

  • John Lucas posted at 3:35 am on Mon, Feb 18, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    I always have to laugh when Republicans talk about honor and integrity. I believe it is best not to talk about something you know nothing about.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 12:25 am on Sun, Feb 17, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    UN resolutions 1267 (1999) and 1989 (2011) aren't "unrelated", or "manufactured" or "stolen" Mr. Adams.
    [sleeping]

    Mr. Portal's letter is about Benghazi. Which of your ridiculous posts is?
    [sleeping]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 9:00 pm on Fri, Feb 15, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    President Obama just raised taxes the most on America's poorest.
    [sleeping]

    Right off the bat, the fiscal cliff agreement that would only raise taxes on the wealthy, just raised EVERYONE’S payroll Social Security tax by 2%. The old rate was 4.2%, but that was raised for everyone across the board to 6.2%. A family making a combined gross of $50,000 will pay an additional $1,000 in Social Security taxes. Right there Obama broke his promise and proved to the entire nation that he is a blatant liar and that his word can never be trusted. Not exactly a trait you want in your national bleeder, I mean leader.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 8:35 pm on Fri, Feb 15, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Mr. Portal's letter is about Benghazi. Kerry, Gore and Bush have little to do with the matter. I do agree President Pinnocchio has to go. [thumbup]

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 7:37 pm on Fri, Feb 15, 2013.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2357

    It's not off topic at all. We're talking about honor and integrity insofar as those involved with this issue. Bringing Kerry, Gore and Bush into the debate is simply an extension of that take on the matter.

    As far as one example of the "chicanery" within the Obama administration, might I offer the "Cornhusker Kickback?" Or was that just our imagination? Don't think for one moment that Obama had his fingers in virtually every aspect of his own bill - especially the one that was so near and dear to his heart. It didn't matter how that law was going to be passed; by hook or crook, it was going to be enacted. And with his victory in November, there really is no going back. But I won’t forget what it took to get it there – and I’m confident that the historians won’t leave those things out either.

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 7:11 pm on Fri, Feb 15, 2013.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1399

    Someone here once thought that some qualifications for president were more important than others, and hence could be ignored. Just so that some of you know, to be elected president, you have to be 35 years of age, be born in the United States, and reside in the U.S. for 14 years.

    There are other restrictions as well, you can't serve more than 10 years and you can't be elected more than twice, or be elected twice if you've served 2 or more years of a previous president's term.

    Lying to evade service in the military is not a disqualification from running for, or being elected president. Fortunately for the country, "W." Bush survived to serve both terms, thereby avoiding probably the last opportunity for a president (Dick Cheney had Bush been unable to remain president for the remainder of either his first or second term) to have actually lied to avoid military service.

    And fortunately, the American public saw fit to return President Barack Obama for his second term in office to continue his efforts to make America a better place for all, not just the rich.

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 6:53 pm on Fri, Feb 15, 2013.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1399

    While your game is either imagined or stolen.

    And you're not posting facts, your posting unrelated parcels of information, some real, some manufactured, in an attempt to show you know something the rest of us don't. Even if decent folks here could overlook globs of mud you throw on a wall and claim is a Picasso, they can't overlook the 100% of your posts are stolen from another author.

    Not even a good attempt at a rank.

    You are out of you league here, but keep on, daniel believes you.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 6:26 pm on Fri, Feb 15, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    [thumbup]Great post but unfortunately a bit [offtopic]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 6:12 pm on Fri, Feb 15, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    The Obama administration initially attributed the Benghazi violence to protests over an anti-Islam film and said it was not premeditated.

    Obama and other officials have since said the incident was a deliberate terrorist attack.

    Clear dishonesty . [sleeping]

    Lies, Lies, Lies... http://youtu.be/d3YZVxtYVLA

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 5:54 pm on Fri, Feb 15, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1533

    Jerome could you give at least one example that has some verifiable facts of this chicanery you speak of? Personally I think that Obama knows there are some big guns looking to take him down and is intelligent enough to know that he must run a squeaky clean administration. Not only that but if he tried any of Clinton's escapades he would have Michelle to deal with.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 5:46 pm on Fri, Feb 15, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1533

    I think what people question is that there was a draft at the time and Bush seamed able to avoid it while Kerry and Gore enlisted, it just looks bad.

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 2:44 pm on Fri, Feb 15, 2013.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2357

    Someone has raised the issue of John Kerry's and Al Gore's service and presence in Vietnam and then questioned the absence of former President George W. Bush.

    After scouring the U.S. Constitution I cannot for the life of me find any requirement that a candidate for President of the United States be that he/she participate in any war. In fact, I see no requirement that they be members of the United States Armed Forces at all.

    I've never questioned the service records of any of these men – and while I've found some of the information put forth over the years interesting, I don't find it relevant. Of course if a candidate in any way lied or otherwise illegally evaded service, then that's a different matter altogether. Even with all that we've had to put up with during the Clinton years and now with Barack Hussein Obama's chicanery, I'm still a strong proponent of integrity and honor as important character traits for anyone desiring to take residence at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. I'm also deeply concerned over the lack of these characteristics in those who have served in Obama's cabinet and elsewhere in this administration.

    More important however is that the American People don’t seem to care either. We need to look around to where we once used to find our heroes. Sports, the military and our political leaders once produced a few here and there. Aside from the military (much hated by our current president) there’s very few heroic figures to speak of. And this is pitiful.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 1:12 pm on Fri, Feb 15, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1533

    When all you can bring to the debate is that those you disagree with are liars it makes your opinion irrelevant if you have some example of this administrations dishonesty maybe you can share it with us and please not opinions but something that can be substantiated. As far as political/ social experiments if you are referring to the success of Obama in his first term I doubt those policies are going away anytime soon. I do agree with you on one point we both seem to be looking forward to Hillary running in 2016.

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 11:50 am on Fri, Feb 15, 2013.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1399

    Why would you possibly think I would care to read more plagiarized material from someone like you?

    I thought I was clear. Your opinions on events (which are not your opinions, but someone else's that you just copy and paste) are irrelevant other than as a source of how intellectually lazy you and your type is. The fact that you persist in your continual posting of crazy ideas which involve vast groups of individuals taking part in secret government programs just reinforces the view of most here that you are at the very least silly and obsessed with your many conspiracies and have not the ability to separate fact from fiction.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 10:28 am on Fri, Feb 15, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Meanwhile...President Pinnocchio's administration continues to willfully fund, arm and politically back designated affiliates of Al Qaeda.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 9:41 am on Fri, Feb 15, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Where the cult of personality becomes more dangerous, is when citizens exhibit a blind loyalty to their icon, a condition which is similar to celebrity worship.
    [sleeping]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 8:19 am on Fri, Feb 15, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Again, the topic is Benghazi Mr. Adams but O.K. I’ll digress for a moment and address your latest nonsense anyway.
    The DHS began purchasing huge amounts of ammo in April of last year, with the purchase of 450 million rounds of hollow point .40 caliber ammunition. This is significant for two reasons:
    1) DHS does not fight wars with foreign nations. It’s entire theater of operations is on U.S. soil, dealing solely with the American people.
    2) Hollow point ammunition is banned by the Geneva convention and is not used by the U.S. military. This ammunition can only be used domestically, in the United States, against U.S. targets or people.
    A few months after buying the initial 450+ million rounds of ammo the DHS then went on to purchase another 750 million rounds of ammunition.
    Additional contracts were added after that, bringing the grand total of government ammo purchases in 2012 to 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition. That’s over five bullets for every American man, woman and child.
    By comparison, a citizen is considered to be a stockpiling “terrorist” prepper if they own just 1,000 rounds of ammo. The government, however, can purchase billions and the mainstream media as well as yourself doesn’t even question it.
    An approximation of how many rounds of ammunition the DHS has now secured over the last 10 months currently stands at around 1.625 BILLION. The fact that you are not capable of digesting this reality can only be attributed to your own intellectual laziness. It really has nothing to do with me Mike. Simply Google “government ammo solicitations” and educate and inform yourself for goodness sake.
    To put these ammo solicitations in perspective, during the height of active battle operations in Iraq, US soldiers used 5.5 million rounds of ammunition a month. The DHS has purchased enough bullets over the last 10 months to wage a full scale Iraq war for almost 30 years.
    When the Social Security Administration, the National Oceanographic and the Atmospheric Administration’s National Weather Service make huge ammo buys, you might want to stop and ask “why”? Unless of course, you are a zombie.
    And as far as Dorner, we predicted, ON THE RECORD, that the police would burn Dorner by setting fire to the cabin. It’s not my fault you won’t listen to the show and instead continue to live in la la land.
    [sleeping]

     
  • robert maurer posted at 7:22 am on Fri, Feb 15, 2013.

    mason day Posts: 447

    The very first line of this original article said it best: president obama,clinton,are responsible for benghazi. Why then do they not accept the blame,admit their failure,do what they were elected to do : lead and protect America and its constitution and culture instead of up to the standard lies and deception( one lies and the other swears to it.)One thing is true: whether awake or sleeping,politicians lie on one side,then the other.

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 6:11 am on Fri, Feb 15, 2013.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1399

    What does any far out tail you've plagiarized from some source have to do with anything?

    Conspiracy zombies like you are good for nothing other than reminding the rest of us how we are sane.

    Go count up some more bullets and learn the differecne bethween "millions" and "billions".

    You should hop on this ex-LAPD cop story. Get in on the ground floor with another far out tale of intrigue and secret government cover ups.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 12:38 am on Fri, Feb 15, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Benghazi zombies,

    The official account by administration officials is a mosaic of lies that were necessary to cover the unpalatable truth of covert actions taking place in Libya, Syria, Turkey, Jordan and Lebanon to secretly arm anti-Assad “rebels” in Syria.
    [sleeping]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 12:25 am on Fri, Feb 15, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    What does Kerry have to do with Benghazi? [sleeping]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 12:24 am on Fri, Feb 15, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    The US embassy is in Tripoli. [sleeping]

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 2:27 pm on Thu, Feb 14, 2013.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2357

    Of course I hope Hillary Clinton runs. I'm of the mindset that sooner than later the American people will return to honesty and integrity in politics. This political/social experiment of progressivism has failed. We have a Secretary of State who skirted the issue of what happened at Benghazi until her appearance where she stated:

    "Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided they’d go kill some Americans? What difference, at this point, does it make?"

    How bizarre that she should make such a remark. Yet these are the kinds of things this administration has been getting away with ever since January of 2009.

    Yet I'm extremely hopeful and confident that not only will she need to answer for this one instance, but for many others as well including her continued belief that her own husband's problems with Lewinsky were due to some "vast right-winged conspiracy."

    Deep down inside I do believe Americans want their leaders to be honest. We've seen so little of that since Obama became president. It's time for a return to integrity.

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 9:57 am on Thu, Feb 14, 2013.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1399

    Mr. Walters, you must be referring to the incident in Vietnam when then Lt. Kerry, returned under fire and rescued a crewman from another boat while his future swift boat detractors turn and ran?

    I didn't notice Bush was in Vietnam. Even Gore spent some time there when he could have avoided it. I Guess it wawas mostly just republicans who got exemptions.

     
  • roy bitz posted at 11:14 pm on Wed, Feb 13, 2013.

    roy bitz Posts: 500


    I support senator Lindsay Graham and others who continue to pursue the truth about that night in Benghazi.
    Its hard to believe Six months have passed and still no accountability---- no consequences for people or entities responsible for failure to protect this embassy or our people there.
    I think the president owes us an accounting of his time-- maybe a video of himself and Hilary in the situation room like the one when seal time six was--- oh never mind. That was different.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 8:24 am on Wed, Feb 13, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Benghazi zombies,

    The fact of the matter is, the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) currently arming, funding, and commanding entire brigades of the so-called "Free Syrian Army" (FSA), is designated an Al Qaeda affiliate by the United Nations pursuant to resolutions 1267 (1999) and 1989 (2011)
    http://www.un.org/sc/committees/1267/NSQE01101E.shtml

    The United States and NATO are knowingly and willfully funding, arming, and politically backing designated affiliates of Al Qaeda contrary not only to US anti-terror legislation, but contrary to numerous UN resolutions as well.

    Ignorance is bliss! [sleeping]

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 8:11 am on Wed, Feb 13, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1533

    Also the fact that Kerry denounced the war after returning from Vietnam does not change the fact that he served this country during wartime and should be given the respect that sacrifice deserves, again I say shame on you.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 8:07 am on Wed, Feb 13, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1533

    You will have to be more specific I read up at snopes and I see nothing to support the swift boaters claims placed against Kerry in his campaign for President. These claims made during his run for office were so false that we still use the term swift boating today. Wiki states…The term swiftboating (also spelled swift-boating or swift boating) is an American neologism used pejoratively to describe an unfair or untrue political attack. You are using a term to denigrate Kerry where the term itself is defined as an unfair attack that's funny.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 12:00 am on Wed, Feb 13, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    CIA [sleeping]

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 10:30 pm on Tue, Feb 12, 2013.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2357

    Of course there should be no fuss about this. Yet had this happened on George W. Bush's watch it sure would have raised one heck of a ruckus.

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 10:28 pm on Tue, Feb 12, 2013.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2357

    No Mr. Walters, not burning the candle at both ends at all.

    My desire to have Mrs. Clinton run in 2016 is that this episode will surely be used to highlight her inability to handle the State Department - so why should she be given the keys to the White House? Or perhaps she'll make it clear that Bill will be doing the governing?

     
  • Ed Walters posted at 9:02 pm on Tue, Feb 12, 2013.

    the old dog Posts: 548

    Mr. Barrow: I suggest you read up on the facts concerning Lt. Kerry. I went to Snops and read up about Kerry in Nam. I suggest you do the same before you make clames that were not true. One more thing, how would it be if you and I knew what goes on in the oval office and the deals that are made. Come to think of it, perhaps as good Americans we wouldn`t want to know.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 8:21 pm on Tue, Feb 12, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1533

    Are you serious Hillary's approval ratings are through the roof you cannot possible hope she runs in 2016 unless your judgment is as bad as when you thought Obama would lose in 2012. If you couple Hill's overall overall ratings with her ability to get the vote of women from all demographics I'd give you 5 to 1 all day long.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 8:08 pm on Tue, Feb 12, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1533

    Hillary stood her ground and came off as competent and informed I know that you dislike her but her approval ratings show that you are certainly out of the mainstream.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 7:35 pm on Tue, Feb 12, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1533

    The fact that you still believe in the swift boat lies is telling, Kerry is an American hero who served this country in combat shame on you.

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 6:31 pm on Tue, Feb 12, 2013.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2463

    I honestly don't get the fuss about Benghazi. We are at war (and we have been at war for a very long time). Casualties in war are always regrettable but, in the context of the tens of thousands of Americans who have been killed and wounded from the streets of New York to the bogs of Basra, they are hardly remarkable.

    This sort of hand wringing about 4 deaths is exactly the sort of thing that emboldens the enemy and leads them to the false conclusion that, if they just persist in their murderous attacks for a little longer, America will fold like a house of cards.

    In the end, the Republicans endless droning on the subject may service their short term political goals but I think it does a grave disservice to our national interests and our hopes for eventual victory. The time has come for the the GOP to put patriotism ahead of partisanship.

     
  • Ed Walters posted at 6:27 pm on Tue, Feb 12, 2013.

    the old dog Posts: 548

    Mr. Kinderman: Perhaps you could go into more detail concerning your last short paragraph. You state that Mrs. Clinton as Secretary of State during the whole Benghazi affair was not up to par, as when she challenged Obama as not being up to the task at 03:00. You go on to state that you hope she decides to run for president in 2016. Sounds like you have the candle burning at both ends. Care to clarify?

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 5:59 pm on Tue, Feb 12, 2013.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2357

    Obama's response to this is clearly enough to create doubt in his leadership as well as in Mrs. Clinton; especially the latter's performance while testifying on Capitol Hill.

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 5:51 pm on Tue, Feb 12, 2013.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2357

    I think the most interesting part of this whole Benghazi debacle is that Mr. Obama has proven Mrs. Clinton absolutely correct when during the 2008 campaign she challenged then candidate Obama as not being up to the task at 3:00 a.m.

    Sadly for Mrs. Clinton, her performance as Secretary of State during all of this proves that neither is she. I do hope she decides to run for president in 2016.

     
  • Ed Walters posted at 4:47 pm on Tue, Feb 12, 2013.

    the old dog Posts: 548

    Being Woods and Doherty were former Navy Seals and were working as private contractors, they were not under military orders to " stand down ". However as private citizens they felt it was their duty to render aid to fellow Americans. Stand down and watch Amercian die was not in their play book. I can only think that the Seal Team wondered why they were not deployed to counter the muslims & terrorists that would hide amoung the woman and children like the cowards they are and one reason the drones might have stayed parked on that dreadful day. And if Obama wasn`t bad enough to deal with, now there is John "Swift Boat" Kerry who still can`t understand where all those medals he "earned" are placed. Clinton to Kerry, going from bad to worse.

     
  • robert maurer posted at 4:36 pm on Tue, Feb 12, 2013.

    mason day Posts: 447

    The 20min/7hr/20min fight scenario...maybe they just took a nap while waiting for their murderers to return and finish them off. Maybe Obama limited them to 10 or 7 round clips.

     
  • robert maurer posted at 4:03 pm on Tue, Feb 12, 2013.

    mason day Posts: 447

    In response to Jerome; at clinton's hearing, she said she knew about the hoards of people protesting at Benghazy and according to reports, was under the impression that it was just that; a protest. My question is why she did not read the reports all day on that fateful day,and why she would not be prepared for an act of terrorism,since the protestors were muslim and terrorists could easily hide among them. Her excuse was that she sad office help reading the reports and that there were so many that they could not read them all.

     
  • Brandt Hardin posted at 3:57 pm on Tue, Feb 12, 2013.

    dregstudios Posts: 3

    The situation in Benghazi has been overly-politicized and the victims and there families being instrumented as a ruse to create doubt in Obama’s leadership and his cabinet. Public access to real facts is being whitewashed by this rhetoric while conservative hands paint the Blackface on our President. Watch them mix and apply the paints to his face in a portrait of Obama being Bamboozed by the Far Right at http://dregstudiosart.blogspot.com/2012/10/bamboozling-obama.html

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 3:48 pm on Tue, Feb 12, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1533

    Quite naive to think that the CIA is going to divulge there inner workings but if you want to keep stomping your feet demanding answers go ahead my point was that Obama is President again and Hillary remains the most admired woman in America if not the world. The fact that the right does not understand that or why so many admire her is why they will continue to lose elections, works for me. On a side note the most admired man of 2012 was Barrack Hussien Obama.

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 3:29 pm on Tue, Feb 12, 2013.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2357

    "Benghazi again?"

    It should be Benghazi over and over again until We the People are provided with not only what happened, but who knew what and when did they know it.

    Sadly for this administration, it's one thing that cannot be blamed on former President George W. Bush - this is all Obama's to reckon with.

     
  • robert maurer posted at 3:15 pm on Tue, Feb 12, 2013.

    mason day Posts: 447

    Psyche 101, Ms Bobin? Accuse others of which you do yourself to shift the blame?I should know better than to disagree with you since you are the expert on that.BTW, my memory of history in my lifetime is accurate. I don't change history to support any agenda, like some.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:21 pm on Tue, Feb 12, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Woods and Doherty were not Navy SEALS anymore. They were private contractors with the State Department.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:20 pm on Tue, Feb 12, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Riding out? And again with the John Kerry BS?

    Thank goodness you are not a historian, Mr. Maurer since you seem to enjoy making up your own "facts."

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 8:34 am on Tue, Feb 12, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    There was a CIA annex one mile away with armed Navy Seals. They were told to “stand down”. Tyrone Woods, Glen Doherty, and at least two others ignored orders and went to the consulate and rescued personnel. When taking fire back at the annex their request for military support was denied. Woods and Doherty died.
    [sleeping]

     
  • robert maurer posted at 8:02 am on Tue, Feb 12, 2013.

    mason day Posts: 447

    I watched those hearings very carefully and mostly agree with what Mr.Portal said,except for 1 item; Leon Panetta said that he was able to contact Obama at about 4:15 PM for about 15 minutes;after the fact,of course. Hillary was just riding out her last days as secretary of state until her successor takes over. Looks like we have another american military hater to take her place. John Kerry.[censored]

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 7:44 am on Tue, Feb 12, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1533

    Benghazi again? Benghazi was a covert CIA operation there were no troops on the ground that would have certainly ruined the covert nature of the operation and before the usual response about hearing from the survivors, don’t even start, the survivors are CIA operatives and hearing from them would mean outing them and while Bush felt that outing CIA operatives was just fine that is not normal operations of the Commander in Chief.
    Secondly let’s say that Ron is right and Benghazi was a complete fumble and that Obama and Hillary are responsible what then? There are members of Congress that hate Obama and have admittedly tried to derail him at every turn and nobody is talking impeachment over Benghazi. So if Benghazi is not an impeachable offense then Obama will finish out his second term and you can choose not to vote for Hillary in 2016. Of course with Hillary being the most respected women for the last 11 years Ron’s opinion might not matter all that much and I can assure you that if she runs she will certainly receive California’s electoral votes. So my question is what does Ron and others hope to achieve by rehashing Benghazi over and over again?

     
  • Jeff Tillett posted at 7:41 am on Tue, Feb 12, 2013.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 548

    don't let the facts hit you in the rear on your way out...

    "DEMPSEY: You know, it wasn't a seven-hour battle. It was two 20-minute battles separated by about six hours. The idea that this was one continuous event is just incorrect.

    And the nearest -- for example, the nearest aircraft -- armed aircraft, happened to be in Djibouti, the distance from Djibouti to Benghazi is the distance from Washington, D.C., to Los Angeles.

    There is some significant physics involved. And the time available, given the intelligence available, I have great confidence in reporting to the American people that we were appropriately responsive given what we knew at the time. "
    http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1302/03/sotu.01.html

     

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