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Posted: Wednesday, August 27, 2014 12:00 am

“Livable, Lovable Lodi.” I don’t think so! Three friends and I met for lunch today at Smack Pie Pizza to welcome our friend from Arizona on her annual visit back to Lodi.

It is always a treat to see our friend, who along with her husband once owned a jewelry store for may years in Lodi on School Street. Unfortunately, she didn’t see the comments on Facebook from “You know You Grew Up In Lodi When???” about the post office towing gig.

We were sitting out on Smack Pie’s patio when the tow trucks started their parade. We asked our friend where she parked and she told us in the handicap zone at the post office. She has Arizona license plates and definitely needs the handicap zone and did not see the sign saying otherwise. She got up out of her chair and said, “My Lord, my car isn’t there.”

Obviously, she was shocked and had no idea what to do. Thanks to Lt. Michael Jones and his associates from the San Joaquin County Metropolitan Narcotics Task Force and their cellphones who were having lunch next to us. They graciously gave our friend all the information she needed to get her car out of hock.

Yes, she was in the wrong place to park for any length of time, but in Arizona, there is no time limit. My personal opinion would be to give the car a ticket and allow that person to go to our police department to explain her situation and go from there.

Thank you again, Lt. Jones and your caring young men. No wonder my favorite color is khaki green!

Moe Gritsch


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  • Steve Schmidt posted at 12:18 pm on Thu, Sep 4, 2014.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2603

    Life is far too short.

  • Steve Schmidt posted at 12:17 pm on Thu, Sep 4, 2014.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2603

    Yeah, aside from the unbearable heat, the jack booted sherifs, the unbearable heat, the fascist politicians, the omnipresent strip clubs, the unbearable heat, the millions of rattlesnakes, the innumerable scorpions, the unbearable heat, the racist policies, the insane dust storms, the lack of any green plants, the herds of gun toting conservative nut jobs, the lack of decent food, the absence of any real culture,and the unbearable heat....its just like Lodi.

    !You Could Not Pay Me Enough To Move There!

  • Thomas Heuer posted at 9:12 pm on Wed, Sep 3, 2014.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1663

    A thesis statement is a more formal writing where you do need to stay more narrowly focused and on topic to maintain coherency. What you have here on the LNS opinion page is informal writing and more conversational in nature. So if the the comment seems to flow in the conversation like you would do talking its probably fine.

  • Kevin Paglia posted at 12:48 pm on Wed, Sep 3, 2014.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2083

    Well, that's not entirely true. I got a couple friends in Phoenix who post the temps through the summer. we may get warm but they get HOT. and at least here we cool off at night.

    And let's not forget the flash floods IF it rains and the dust clouds that will roll in and cover EVERYTHING.

    At least they have a football team in town though

  • Jien Kaur posted at 10:38 am on Wed, Sep 3, 2014.

    Jien Kaur Posts: 307

    Thank you mr Heuer for you interpretation. It is the confusing to me because I learn to write all my life with what you call a 'thesis statement' - or the center topic of writing.

    I did not know that in United States there can be many topics like accord to you explanation a person could comment on the narcotics officers have the lunch at restaurant or the necessary of handicap parking or whatever sentence or word in letter is here consider 'on topic'. Strange is this concept.

  • Brian Dockter posted at 8:57 am on Wed, Sep 3, 2014.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857


    Nice home in Central Phoenix

  • Brian Dockter posted at 8:53 am on Wed, Sep 3, 2014.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    Mr. Schmidt,

    I could drop you in a middle class neighborhood in the Phoenix Metro Area and you would think you were in Lodi. Aside from the fact It's mostly desert here, It's really not that much different.

  • Thomas Heuer posted at 4:23 pm on Tue, Sep 2, 2014.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1663

    Ms Kaur your not crazy
    If I may do Simon Birches, the online editors, job here and reply;

    The letter writer in the first sentence refers to a returning friend from Arizona. So that was the object of Mr Schmidts remark and Mr Ed followed that train of thought. Mr Schmidts comment was considered a general comment about Arizona and spoken with humor. Now MR Kinderman does have his own ideas (and his own rules) about how things should be done in this comment section. He's even been known to tell the editors of the paper how they should be running their paper.

    However that being said your remark about the 9 year old was a specific topic not related to the post office parking nor add to the light humor about Arizona. It WAS related to Arizona but could have led to another serious subject that might have taken things off topic as guns and gay marriage tend to do. No biggie. But your comment was not rejected by Mr Simon Birch so you weren't seen as making any serious breech of the rules otherwise it might have been removed completely. So if you have a comment to make go for it. As it has been said before there is "wiggle room" as far as topics go as MR Kinderman knows and has taken a few opportunities to do so himself.

  • Ed Walters posted at 9:04 pm on Mon, Sep 1, 2014.

    the old dog Posts: 610

    Well the Mr. Schmidt, there is a wonderful time to be in AZ. January would work for me. When you catch on to the way the forum is operated, though Simon has a set of rules, I seldom if ever see them followed the Mr. Jien Kaur, you will understand. This is not to be taken serious, at least I don`t. [wink]

  • Mike Adams posted at 3:42 pm on Mon, Sep 1, 2014.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1500

    Was mine better?

  • Mike Adams posted at 11:13 am on Sun, Aug 31, 2014.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1500

    I think it's just the geography of the way the page is set up.
    With the "Twitter" and "Marketplace" and "Calendar" stuff on the right hand side, it's not obvious that there are sub threads even though there are.

    I think it's more of a crowding issue. There's just too much stuff on the page. A reader can follow it, it's just not obvious.

    This isn't a critisism (sorry, no spell check). More like an observation. I like the way it is set up. But that damn drop down thing at the top drives me crazy! And if the discussion goes on for a long time, it takes forever to load.

  • Thomas Heuer posted at 3:58 pm on Sat, Aug 30, 2014.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1663

    I think MR Kinderman confused a lot of people with his comment on the reply button Ms Kaur referred to. It did me.

  • Jien Kaur posted at 2:24 pm on Sat, Aug 30, 2014.

    Jien Kaur Posts: 307

    Well only two ways here - I am the crazy or someone else is the crazy. The topic of letter is car be towed at post office. The mr Schmidt very first comment was not the topic of letter but about how horrible is the Arizona. He say:

    'Why would anyone move to an uninhabitable hell hole like Arizona? Between the snakes under the rocks and the snakes in the state house you literally could not pay me enough.

    The mr Ed continue enlarge topic of Arizona and not mention the topic of letter at all.

    I comment on recent parking problem letters and add comment regarding the crazy Arizona - just like the mr Ed and the mr Schmidt.

    Now I am in wrong to be off the topic? I think you the mr Jerome and mr Ed like make own rules and don't like comment of the certain people.

    Sorry mr. Mike I not agree regarding intent of the mr Jerome comment. He say very plain he think the being off the topic is justified and the newspaper rule is 'silly.'

    If any remember topic of letter that made the mr Jerome say he ok to be off the topic - was the gun advertisement inappropriate and the mr Jerome start to talk the same sex marriage. Again I want ask - which way you want? Rules are to be ok for you and not the others?

  • Simon Birch posted at 1:13 pm on Sat, Aug 30, 2014.

    Simon Birch - Online Manager Posts: 169 Staff

    Mike: The settings are supposed to allow replies up to 6 levels deep (reply to reply to reply, etc.). My apologies to everyone if this isn't happening. Can you let me know here or by email (webmaster@lodinews.com) if this is an ongoing problem? Thanks.

  • Mike Adams posted at 12:22 pm on Sat, Aug 30, 2014.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1500

    If I may extend myself here without the permission of Jerome, and possibly defend him, he was saying that the reply button will enable you to create a sub-thread in reply to a post and that sub-thread can go in any direction.

    That is how it works on every other board in the world I think. And you can get yourself lost in the multiple sub-threads that might be created.

    For some reason, the LNS board doesn't operate that way. If you reply to a post about the main topic, you may find your post 10 or 15 comments away from the post you are replying to and in that position, it may make no sense what so ever.

    The little vertical lines on the left indicate replies and replies to replies and the comments are indented, but the physical layout of the whole system just breeds confusion. Maybe it's all the stuff on the right hand side of the posts, maybe it's the Wine and Roses ad that always drops down over the letter and won't go away till it goes away and then drops back down. Maybe LNS wanted to provide a more friendly posting experience.
    When the treads get long, all the stuff on the right hand side slows down the whole thing.

  • Sunny Samuels posted at 7:54 pm on Fri, Aug 29, 2014.

    Sunny Samuels Posts: 61

    I HATE trying to go to the post office and not one empty spot. Yet when I finally get a spot somewhere a block away and get inside there is like 3 people in line. Read the signs, no sympathy here.

  • Jien Kaur posted at 4:57 pm on Fri, Aug 29, 2014.

    Jien Kaur Posts: 307

    Well that strange in two ways. Mr Ed talk with mr Schmidt about Arizona and no problem with the mr Ed until now with topic of poor child and murder.

    And the mr Kinderman tell me direct that the reply button allow to change topic. I look up comment and remind, mr Kinderman?

    July 7, 6:33PM from the mr Kinderman:

    No contradiction at all. My point is that this notion that simply veering off on what I referred to as a sub thread shouldn't necessarily be considered off topic. But just in case you're interested, of all the rules I find most silly, it's that one.


    Which way you want mr Kinderman? Make you mind and tell us which one suit you best or be the contradictory or my dictionary say 'hypocrite' or 'silly' as you say. Cannot be two different way.

  • Steve Schmidt posted at 11:41 am on Fri, Aug 29, 2014.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2603

    Ron, I think the point is that there is no right time to be in AZ.

  • Eric Barrow posted at 8:46 am on Fri, Aug 29, 2014.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1591

    This letter writer has not been keeping up with the opinion page, after so many letters about people abusing the Post Office parking lot I'm surprised that someone would submit this letter. I agree with the rest of the postings rules are rules and the parking lot is clearly posted. I'm sure the fact that she was sporting AZ plates didn't help either gives me a chuckle just thinking about it.

  • Mike Adams posted at 5:28 pm on Thu, Aug 28, 2014.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1500

    Wow! I agree with Joe Baxter on something!

    It can be very difficult to find a parking spot in the USPS sometimes.

  • Ron Werner posted at 3:29 pm on Thu, Aug 28, 2014.

    Ron Werner Posts: 101

    Moe wrote "Yes, she was in the wrong place to park for any length of time, but in Arizona, there is no time limit."

    What does that mean?

  • Robert Molle posted at 1:33 pm on Thu, Aug 28, 2014.

    Robert Molle Posts: 50

    if her car was parked at the post office and your friend was not at the post office then their car deserved to be towed period!

  • Ed Walters posted at 12:42 pm on Thu, Aug 28, 2014.

    the old dog Posts: 610

    Kaur: your second paragraph was [offtopic]

  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 10:11 am on Thu, Aug 28, 2014.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2367

    While I consider the Uzi shooting death at the hands of a nine-year-old child in Arizona compelling and interesting, I fail to see the connection to this story regarding the parking in Lodi's U.S. Post Office parking lot. Just a "tad" off topic? I think so.

  • Joe Baxter posted at 5:31 am on Thu, Aug 28, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    I have no sympathy for people who blatantly violate the law then whine when they have to suffer the consequences. The signs at the Lodi Post Office clearly state that parking is for postal patrons ONLY. I realize there are many people out there that consider themselves "special" and that the rules don't apply to them, hence the tow trucks. Tow on.

  • Jien Kaur posted at 3:06 pm on Wed, Aug 27, 2014.

    Jien Kaur Posts: 307

    Were not more letters recent with the complain that many park in post office lot that not post office customers? I think not the excuse to not read the signs.

    For Arizona - on the Yahoo news today - a one of the United States that can let a 9 year girl shoot with a Uzi gun at firing range and kill gun instructor have many more the problem than the hot summer and snake!

  • Ed Walters posted at 12:25 pm on Wed, Aug 27, 2014.

    the old dog Posts: 610

    Well Schmidt you could pay me enough, only thing, nobody has that kind of money. I spent a few days in a town by the name of Bullhead, Arizona. You never see anyone out after 11:00 AM since it is so damn hot, a possibility after the sun goes down, by then the temp might drop under 100 degrees. Natural grass, no way since every house has a rock garden, only thing that might survive is a palm tree. If eggs need to be boiled, in a pool for 5 minutes should do the trick. There is only one way to beat the heat, go across the river and spend the day at one of the casino`s in Laughlin, Nv. You might lose your *** , however it is cool in that money loosing proposition. Remember, the house always wins. As far as snakes are concerned, they can be found everywhere, most of the time when congress is in secession in Sacramento, only difference, these snakes where a tie, though they do rattle. [wink]

  • Steve Schmidt posted at 7:03 am on Wed, Aug 27, 2014.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2603

    Why would anyone move to an uninhabitable hell hole like Arizona? Between the snakes under the rocks and the snakes in the state house you literally could not pay me enough.


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