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Posted: Thursday, March 13, 2014 12:00 am

I grew up in the American South, but a Texan would tell you it was “North Texas.” For five years, our family of four lived in a small, 18-foot masonite travel trailer with no bathroom. My nickname in high school was a racial slur because I was born in New York and had only lived in Texas since I was 5. The local movie theater had a second entrance that just said “colored.”

I left for Vietnam in 1961, saw and experienced more racism in the Navy. I met a fine woman in San Diego, married her, and went to college on the GI Bill. With a master’s degree in social work, I worked for the California Youth Authority. I wanted to help young people who never had a chance. I helped some of California’s most troubled youths become responsible adults.

A few years ago I went back to Texas for my 50th reunion. A classmate told me the most jaded story of his view of President Obama’s birth parents. Racist on its face, he was quite proud to tell me. I found he was not alone. In these 50 passing years, I learned that not much had changed in Texas.

Now for calling the leader of the Free World a “sub-human mongrel,” Ted Nugent is a hero in these very same parts. Judging from letters I read in this paper, I fully suspect many here in Lodi laud his racist rant. But indeed he is anathema to enlightened thought. With his white supremacy claptrap, he has engendered and endeared himself to the true thoughts of all racists who lie just under the thin surface separating those who have decided it just isn’t seemly to be known as a racist from the neo-Nazis who would wear the jack boots and tramp around with weapons of racist suppression.

Nugent freely espousing this guile without responsible rebuke bodes ill for all who have respect for honest differences of any kind. There’s a very clear difference between those who hold his effluent dear from those who have informed, differences of opinion on the best way forward. Ted Nugent is as “un-American” as anyone else who believes, espouses, supports or remains silent about this brand of wretched vomitus!

Gary Maurer

Lodi

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32 comments:

  • Brian Dockter posted at 8:17 am on Mon, Mar 17, 2014.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2821

    Obviously my comments or that person's comments aren't vile. Perhaps a little far fetched at times.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 11:37 am on Sun, Mar 16, 2014.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2821

    Jerome Kinderman,

    Thank you once again for your words of wisdom. You are truly an asset to these blogs. If everyone kept there cool as much as you the dialogue here would be much more civilized. But then there goes the entertainment value of these bloggs. Let's just say you're a serious thinker and this value far exceeds anything coming from those in the peanut gallery.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 10:18 am on Sun, Mar 16, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    An ad hominem does not change the definition of a word nor does it change the fact that President Pinnocchio referred to himself a mongrel.
    [sleeping]

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 5:09 pm on Sat, Mar 15, 2014.

    Walt Posts: 1112

    "Don't need no hippies to ban my gun"

    Ted still rocks but really hasn't matured as an artist. These are from his last album and are pre president Obama!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwiEmQRPGwk

    Stand (released 2007 from the album Love Gernade)

    STAND!!! STAND!!! STAND!!!

    Don't need big brother to wipe my a-s-s,
    Don't need Ted Kennedy to spill my glass.
    Al not so Sharpton is a racist laugh,
    The whole damn world can kiss my a-s-s.

    I don't need nobody to hold my hand,
    Don't need nobody, I can stand
    Make my own way in a rock-n-roll band,
    Kiss my ass I'm an American.

    Don't need no hippies to ban my gun,
    Don't need no commies no Mao Tse Tung
    Rugged independence is a lotta fun,
    I laugh so hard when I see em run.

    I don't need nobody to hold my hand,
    Don't need nobody, I can stand
    Make my own way in a rock-n-roll band,

    Don't ya think I'm taxed enuff?
    Maybe it's time to call your bluff
    Pimps & whores & welfare brats,
    Too much government way too fat,

    STAND!!! STAND!!! STAND!!! STAND!!!

    [rolleyes]

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 5:08 pm on Sat, Mar 15, 2014.

    Walt Posts: 1112

    "My only friend is my gun"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNgjKXRMnHo

    Broadside (released 2007 from the album Love Gernade)

    Sometimes I feel like a dog,
    Got no place to run
    I feel all alone,
    My only friend is my gun

    So I get up everyday,
    And I stand up and I fight
    They say I'm a crazy man,
    I say I'm doin' alright, alright

    Don't kick the dog he's man's best friend,
    Let 'em lie he'll be alright
    Its against the law since
    I can't say when,
    He'll be right there 'til the bitter end

    Hit broadside,
    Sucker-punched again
    Hit broadside,
    Sucker-punched my friend.

    You can't (B.S.) the boss,
    He's a smart (S.O.B.)
    It might be your loss,
    Might be too late to switch.

    Don't kick the dog he's man's best friend,

    Let 'em lie he'll be alright
    Its against the law since
    I can't say when,
    He'll be right there 'til the bitter end.

    C'mon, hit me baby broadside,
    Broadside
    Sucker-punched again.
    Hit broadside,
    Sucker-punched again.
    Hit broadside,
    Sucker-punched again.
    I like it broadside.
    Broadside,
    Sucker-punched again.
    Broadside,
    Broadside,
    Broadside,
    Sucker-punched again,
    Hit me baby broadside,
    Broadside, sucker-punched again,
    Broadside.
    Go ahead, hit me baby, hit me baby
    Broadside!

    [smile]

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 5:07 pm on Sat, Mar 15, 2014.

    Walt Posts: 1112

    "I'm your machine gun man"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwiEmQRPGwk

    Love Gernade (released 2007 from the album Love Gernade)

    I'm not allergic, allergic to pain, no matter how hard I try
    I crave you so bad, it drives me insane, if I don't have you I'll die..
    I am a dangerous weapon baby, I'm your machine gun man
    Don't make me shoot you down baby, I just wanna be your....
    Love Grenade, I'm comin in, Love grenade, pull the pin, Love Grenade, Look out below, Love Grenade, I'm about to blow....

    I'm on the front lines, the front lines of love, jump in a foxhole with me
    Your body armor will do you no good, you'll be my 1st casualty...
    I am collateral damage baby, I got your love IV

    You'll never take me alive baby, just wanna be your.. Love Grenade....

    I am your kamikaze baby, I am your dog fightin man
    I am the ace in your hole baby, yea yea yea yea yea,

    I am your Love Grenade, comin in, Love Grenade pull the pin, Love Grenade Love Grenade Love Grenade

    Love shrapnel, love shrapnel..... s-e-x shrapnel, s-e-x shrapnel, Love Grenade Love Grenade

    [beam]

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 10:55 am on Sat, Mar 15, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1843

    Mr. Musto, right you are. When the occupier of the white house commits stupid, and at ties illegal acts, and anyone calls to task for it, the liberals main defense is to accuse them of being "racists". Problem is, I can't figure out which ilk of racism they are talking about. Since Obama is half black & half white I guess it could go eiter way?

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:18 am on Sat, Mar 15, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    So, Mr. Birch, are you going to NOT post my comment while standing by other vile comments?

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:18 am on Sat, Mar 15, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    It is certainly clear that the right wing responses to this letter pretty much sum up the character of our fellow Lodians on the right - and especially a former Lodian who continues to make personal attacks against me.

    I notice that NOT ONE of his responses, as usual, is to anyone other than myself.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 1:06 pm on Fri, Mar 14, 2014.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2821

    Of course Ms. Bobbin can assure us not one Democrat has ever set foot in a Ted Nugent concert or have they ever performed the song "Catch Scratch Fever'.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 9:29 am on Fri, Mar 14, 2014.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2821

    Ms. Bobbin stated:

    As for Mr. Kinderman's comments - nowhere in his letter does Gary Maurer claim that Ted Nugent or anyone one else DOES NOT have the right to free speech.

    -There's hope for Ms. Bobbin. It seems to me she is no longer a proponent of the Fairness Doctrine.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 9:25 am on Fri, Mar 14, 2014.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2821


    --Ms. Bobbin,

    Since it was YOU who brought up Muslim Fanaticism. I thought I'd just bring you up to speed on what they are doing on an almost daily basis throughout the world.


    https://shoebat.com/2014/03/14/muslims-annihilate-106-people-brutal-massacre-2/

    Muslims Annihilate 106 People In Brutal Massacre

    by Ted on March 14, 2014 in General
    By Theodore Shoebat

    Muslims butchered countless people, killing as many as 106. The Muslims entered villages in Nigeria’s northwestern Katsina State where they committed this major massacre. One local said:

    The gunmen who rode on motorcycles invaded many villages leaving more than 100 people dead … people were killed in my home town while numerous houses were burnt …As a matter of, many of the dead are women and children. …We heard that 27 others were killed in some other villages

    Another local recounted how they butchered innocent people:

     
  • Gary Musto posted at 5:15 am on Fri, Mar 14, 2014.

    Gary Musto Posts: 506

    The Obama apologists have fallen on hard times, the President's approval numbers are tanking and the only reason for the low numbers was put forth by Oprah Winfrey, "because he's African-American."

    It isn't the fact that nearly half of Americans have a negative view of the Affordable Care Act, and the same numbers say they can't use the word "trustworthy" to describe the president.

    To the average doe eyed Obama supporter, when all else fails it's time to play the "race card", just as Oprah tried. It seems that Democrats have been using the "race card" excuse as a "get-out-of-jail free card" for Obama since he was elected President.

    What it all boils down to is when you criticize President Bush you are heralded as a Patriot, when you dare criticize President Obama, you're racist.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 3:57 am on Fri, Mar 14, 2014.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2821

    Ms. Bobbin,

    It should seem pretty clear to you why we rail against the fanaticism of Muslims.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 3:53 am on Fri, Mar 14, 2014.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2821

    I can't speak for Ms. Bobbin. But I can say the vast majority of us are angry about what fanatical Muslims stand for and endorse.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 3:49 am on Fri, Mar 14, 2014.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2821

    Ms. Bobbin stated:

    Americans like Nugent embarrass us on the world stage. We rail against the fanaticism of Muslims and other cultures that are foreign to us - but what do we do? The same if not worse.

    - I'm thankful all he does is embarass us. Unlike fanatical Muslims, he does not call for the extermination of those who don't think or believe in God the way he does. And to make any comparsion to him and fanatical Muslims is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard.

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 9:22 pm on Thu, Mar 13, 2014.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2349

    Ted Nugent doesn't represent me; nor does he represent the United States. The only one he speaks for is himself - so maybe his family and friends might be embarrassed, but that's probably as far as it should go.

    On the other hand, Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and others like them DO represent the United States. And they're also supposed to represent me by virtue of the posts they occupy. Do I think they embarrass us with the things they say and do as our so-called "leaders." You betcha they do. But it was We the People who actually elected them. We were duped by the promises of "hope" and "change" that the majority believed were necessary. Sadly, none of them are leaders. The only way they can do what they want is through lies, bribes and so many other deceitful actions.

    While I am certainly still proud to be an American, I am embarrassed by their actions. Ted Nugent? He's nothing other than a performer; an entertainer. How pathetic are we that we place the Hollywood types on pedestals as if they actually represent who and what we are.

    What really got to me is that a true American treasure - Shirley Temple - died with hardly a mention in Washington. And Whitney Houston, who died as a result of cocaine use, got the Governor of New Jersey to lower the flag to half-staff to honor her. Had it not been for the Turner Classic Movie network broadcasting a few of Temple's best movies back-to-back, no one would have hardly known she was dead. Now that's embarrassing.

     
  • Charles Nelson posted at 8:26 pm on Thu, Mar 13, 2014.

    Charles Nelson Posts: 259

    I have to agree with Mr. Maurer on this. I mean, with the Obama administrations corruption, cover-ups, outright lies, Constitutional disregard, and complete incompetence at his job, there are plenty of reasons to disrespect him without bringing race into the conversation. [tongue]

     
  • Gary Maurer posted at 8:20 pm on Thu, Mar 13, 2014.

    Gary Maurer Posts: 16

    Thanx Joann Bobin! You can read and respond meaningfully. I appreciate your thoughtful insight. Some of the others are too quick to read something here I did not say. It seems to be a predictable response. Reading this blog (and most other blogs in this paper) is like a commentary on the social olympics. While we have a few individuals who can make cogent arguments, we also have those who like to compete in the 1) casting of aspersions; 2) throwing of assumptions, or 3) jumping to conclusions. While I know all Republicans are not dishonest, there are some who use people like Nugent to inflame the ignorant and easily led. We see evidence of this destructive influence in this paper. It is a sad commentary.

     
  • Gary Maurer posted at 7:53 pm on Thu, Mar 13, 2014.

    Gary Maurer Posts: 16

    Mr. Liebich: You have dishonestly "cherry picked" the definition that fits your purpose. Did you not realize that others can google too? Shame on you! The fact you left out the most egregious part of Nugent's quote says more about your proclivities and beliefs than the point of my letter. If you want to be taken seriously as an objective thinker, opine less, get past this kind of trite/glib commentary.

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 4:29 pm on Thu, Mar 13, 2014.

    Walt Posts: 1112

    "wretched vomitus"

    Rednecks gone wild!!

    Thanks Gary

    [thumbup]

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 4:05 pm on Thu, Mar 13, 2014.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2349

    In no way is Ted Nugent - or others like him - showing to the world that ". . . Americans are ignorant, intolerant, racist, bigoted and generally unable to accept anyone who is different. . ." Those who choose to believe we're all like that don't understand what it means to live in a country where our freedom to believe as we choose and to speak as we choose are cherished rights that are afforded to EVERY American, not just to those with whom the liberal/progressive far left deem acceptable. It's interesting that I can easily define liberals/progressives as "Americans (who) are ignorant, intolerant, racist, bigoted and generally unable to accept anyone who is different. . ."

    Of course I've been labeled not only racist, but all manner of other terrible names that in no way come close to defining my character. Yet, the accusations keep on coming without a shred of evidence to back up the nefarious claims. Frankly, I don't care.
    I also don't care about Ted Nugent as I choose to not let him embarrass me on any stage, let alone the world's. However, I will forever defend his absolute right to embarrass himself. I feel so sorry for those who find it impossible to separate themselves from people like Nugent. What a colossal waste of energy.

     
  • Gary Musto posted at 2:44 pm on Thu, Mar 13, 2014.

    Gary Musto Posts: 506

    Obama apologist like Mr. Maurer have fallen on hard times, the President's approval numbers are tanking and the only reason for the low numbers was put forth by Oprah Winfrey, "because he's African-American."

    It isn't the fact that nearly half of Americans have a negative view of the ACA, and the same numbers say they can't use the word "trustworthy" to describe the President.

    The American public dare not ask about "Fast and Furious" Syria, (line in the sand), Egypt, Libya, IRS targeting the "tea party", NSA spying on innocent civilians, 50 million on food stamps, lowest worker participation rate since 1979, and last but not least, Benghazi.

    To the average doe eyed Obama supporter, when all else fails it's time to play the race card just as Mr. Mauer tried. It seems like the Democrats have been using the "race card" excuse as a "get-out-of-jail free card" for Obama since he was elected President.

    It's a different kettle of fish when any black conservative is deemed unfit to hold public office, where is the fake outrage from those on the left, wonder what Mr. Mauer was thinking when Clarence Thomas was put before a all white group of Senators before a prime time national TV audience to defend himself during his Supreme Court confirmation hearings.

    Maybe Justice Thomas said it best when he addressed the committee back in October 1991.

    This is a circus. It's a national disgrace,
    and from my standpoint as a black American, as far as I'm concerned, it's a high-tech lynching for uppity blacks who in any way deign to think for themselves, to do for themselves, to have different ideas, and it is a message that unless you kowtow to an old order, this is what will happen to you. You will be lynched, caricatured by committee of the U. S. Senate, rather than hung from a tree.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 1:18 pm on Thu, Mar 13, 2014.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    mon·grel
    noun \ˈmäŋ-grəl, ˈməŋ-\

    1. an individual resulting from the interbreeding of diverse breeds or strains; especially : one of unknown ancestry
    2. a cross between types of persons or things

    *Synonyms: cross, crossbred, crossbreed, intercross, hybrid

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/mongrel

    According to merriam-webster President Obama is a mongrel. Does that make merriam-webster racist?

    Who else thinks President Obama is a mongrel?

    [sleeping] http://youtu.be/ZerO4KZDlBY

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:39 pm on Thu, Mar 13, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    NOT "un-American," Mr. Kinderman - but most people have the sense to be embarrassed that Ted Nugent IS AMERICAN!

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:37 pm on Thu, Mar 13, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    As for Mr. Kinderman's comments - nowhere in his letter does Gary Maurer claim that Ted Nugent or anyone one else DOES NOT have the right to free speech.

    What he is addressing here - which was VERY apparent to me, if not to anyone else - is the blatant IGNORANCE of Nugent and others like him who are showing the world that Americans are ignorant, intolerant, racist, bigoted and generally unable to accept anyone who is different from (in Nugent's case and those who adore his opinions) the GOOD OLD WHITE ANGLO-SAXON male.

    Americans like Nugent embarrass us on the world stage. We rail against the fanaticism of Muslims and other cultures that are foreign to us - but what do we do? The same if not worse.

    And Nugent is a prime example of American garbage. But Republicans LOVE HIM!!

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:35 pm on Thu, Mar 13, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Paglia wrote: "I am curious about your thoughts on the "race card" use. The tactic by some that when ever you disagree with someone of a different skin color then you must be a racist."

    I think, Mr. Paglia, that there are few instances of what conservatives love to call "playing the race card" based SIMPLY upon "disagreeing" with someone of a different race or ethnicity. It is the CONTENT and CONTEXT of their speech - not the disagreement.

    I'll give you an example. You have just moved into a new neighborhood and you are Hispanic - the only Hispanic family on the block. A neighbor, who knows you professionally and knows you to be an upstanding citizen, comes over and says, "I certainly HOPE that you are going to be a GOOD neighbor!" - what would you think about that person? Does he think you are going to park cars on your lawn? Does he think you won't maintain your property in good order? Does he think your kids are going to burglarize the neighbors' homes?

    But of course your first thought would MOST LIKELY BE - he's hoping that you will have some really nice barbeques and invite him over frequently for a few beers, RIGHT? Right.....

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 10:29 am on Thu, Mar 13, 2014.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2349

    I was wondering the same thing as Mr. Paglia and hope that Mr. Mauer might respond to that issue.

    On the other hand, while I wholeheartedly agree that such racist speech is vile and certainly has no place in my home, I hope the author isn't suggesting that such speech or even thoughts should be declared illegal. If that's the case, then that in and of itself is very un-American. Or is the adage, "I may disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" no longer applicable in the United States of America? Sadly, I think there are far too many Americans who believe such speech should be outlawed. The obvious questions that should be asked are: Where will it end? Who gets to choose what is too offensive for our tender ears to hear? And what right will be tossed into the toilet next?

    I wonder how Martin Luther King, Jr. would judge us had he lived to see Barack Hussein Obama ascend to the Presidency. I seriously doubt he would side with those who toss down the race card at every convenient moment so as to draw attention away from the president's mediocre performance. After all, it was King who, while standing in front of the Lincoln Memorial, revealed his hope that his children might one day live in a world where they won't be judged by the color of their skin, but rather by the content of their character.

    By the way, I think judging anyone as un-American based upon the exercising their right to speak their minds has gotten out of control. In fact, the First and Second Amendments are under severe attack by those who claim to be tolerant - but such tolerance extends only so far as to what they believe. Beyond that, keep your bleeping mouths shut.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:49 am on Thu, Mar 13, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    What? Isn't Ted Nugent is one of the great intellectuals of our life time?

    Here is his account of how he avoided the draft during the Vietnam war:

    In a 1977 High Times article, Nugent stated that he took crystal meth and defecated in his pants in order to avoid being drafted into the Vietnam War. Nugent reaffirmed this in a 1990 interview with Detroit Free Press, stating that "...a week before his physical, he stopped using the bathroom altogether, virtually living inside his pants caked with excrement and urine."

    In other interviews, Nugent has denied this claim, stating that he dodged the draft by enrolling at Oakland Community College to get a student deferment. However, his Selective Service classification record shows ratings of 1-Y and 4-F for 1969 and 1972 respectively, indicating ineligibility for military service under established physical, mental, or moral standards, rather than student deferment."

    Then there's the pedophilia:

    "In a 1998 episode of VH1′s Behind The Music, Nugent, “lambastes drug users and alcohol drinkers, but repeatedly admits (without a trace of humility, however) to being a serial pedophile. Two relationships (one with his wife and one with “muse” Pele Massa, who was 17 when they started dating) were ended due to Ted’s infidelity while on the road, often with underage women. But Ted justifies his behavior with one of his trademark funny expressions: ‘alternative flesh management.’”

    Amazing that Mike Huckabee, a Baptist minister, actually performed "Cat Scratch Fever" with Nugent on Huckabee's television show. Sample lyrics that Huckabee sang along with Nugent:

    Well the first time that I got it
    I was just 10 years old
    I got it from some kitty next door
    Well I went and seen the doctor
    And he gave me the cure
    I think I got it some more.

    Well I make a p ussy purr
    With the stroke of my hand
    They know they're gettin' it from me
    And they know just where to go
    When they need their lovin' man
    They know I'm doin' it for free.

    Tells you exactly how IMMORAL many of these Republicans are who chose to make appearances with this pig.

    But he certainly attracts the kind of low-life crowd that will VOTE for these low-life candidates.

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 8:17 am on Thu, Mar 13, 2014.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 1982

    Gary, I am troubled (for lack of a better word) at your experiences. I am sad to say that level of hate is taught. There is no room in this world for judging a person based on nothing more than their skin color.

    I am curious about your thoughts on the "race card" use. The tactic by some that when ever you disagree with someone of a different skin color then you must be a racist. While it is true there are a lot of idiots saying racist things about Obama, as soon as ANYONE disagrees with his policies, they are called a racist.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 8:01 am on Thu, Mar 13, 2014.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1843

    Right you are, M. Mauer. Ted Nugent owes a sincere apology to all of the mongrels in America.

     
  • Michael Hartung posted at 6:12 am on Thu, Mar 13, 2014.

    mhartung Posts: 25

    Gary right on! Reading all of the crap these people get to write in this paper you would think we live in that backwards state of Texas. Unfortunately there are only a few of use that understand the world and don't live in a racist bubble. Great letter, thanks.

     

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