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Wade Heath Why I’ve lost faith in President Obama

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133 comments:

  • Ted Lauchland posted at 2:15 pm on Fri, Nov 2, 2012.

    Ted Lauchland Posts: 261

    Mr. Heath,
    You seem to be popular. Maybe you should run for President.

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 5:13 pm on Sun, Oct 28, 2012.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1506

    Darrell: You're just not getting it.
    In what year did the 2(3) World Trade Centers fall down (pancake actually, since it's physically impossible for building of that size, built the way they were to fall over (for liebichs sake))?

    In what year did Bill Clinton invade Iraq with the express purpose of removing WMDs?

    In what year did the Bush (W.) invade Iraq with the intended purpose of removing WMD's from Saddam's supposed huge inventory?

    What amount of WMD's did the Bush (W.) invasion find?

    In what year did Bush (W.) switch to removing Saddam from power?

    What did Saddam ultimately say about his "WMD's"?

    Who and how were Iraq and Al Queda and or Taliban linked ot Iraq by the Bush (W.) administration?

    These are questions you need to look at.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 11:50 am on Sun, Oct 28, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    and of course...who can forget that famous quote from the democrats hero...

    Bill Clinton: Obama Has “Political Instincts of a Chicago Thug” said during the campaign in 2008.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 11:40 am on Sun, Oct 28, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Chang saw fit to show Republican campaign quotes about Romney... then democrats quotes about Obama would be appropriate...

    01. Hillary Clinton mocked...Framing Obama as both a deceiver and a dream weaver, Clinton said "none of the problems we face will be easily solved."
    Then oozing derision, Clinton cracked, "Now, I could stand up here and say, 'Let's just get everybody together. Let's get unified. The sky will open. The light will come down. Celestial choirs will be singing and everyone will know we should do the right thing and the world will be perfect.'

    2. Hillary Clinton stated “Shame on you Barack Obama”.. that every Democrat should be outraged at Barack Obama... that he says one thing in his speeches but then see his the campaign distort truth... She stated that Obama was undermining core democratic party principles by using tactics out of Karl Rove's play book.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 10:44 am on Sun, Oct 28, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Imagine how bad its been Mr Chang if a personal supporter of yours who appreciates what you have to say states he did not know you had it in you... that has been my point all along.

    Good to see you post opinions even though they have no merit.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 8:34 am on Sun, Oct 28, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    Obama was AGAINST gay marriage before he was FOR gay marriage before he was AGAINST gay marriage before he was FOR gay marriage. Obama is no paragon of consistency and I could easily post many "flip flops" he has made but I have better things to do.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 6:01 pm on Sat, Oct 27, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Heuer stated......You obviously have misjudged her.

    Mr Heuer, you are badly mistaken

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 5:58 pm on Sat, Oct 27, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Heuer, please tell me you are not as naive as Ms Bobin. You really think I have a filing system?

    Maybe you have heard of that knew fangle technology called data bases?

    It is so cool actually. You save information(data) in this database and with a single word search, I can retrieve all of her posts in seconds...

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 5:49 pm on Sat, Oct 27, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Clearly , you are not comprehending the situation. Ms Bobin attacks Mr Heath... I then respond in defence of her attack.

    She has attacked Mr Heath repeatedly. I have pointed out her consistent animosity.

    Had Ms Bobin not attacked, I would not have responded... Your conclusions are silly Mr Heuer. I do feel very good about myself.[thumbup]

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 4:23 pm on Sat, Oct 27, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1666

    Clearly you've adopted a totally unsupportable position. When we can look at the possibilities our judgements can asssume shouldn't we make an effort to see the kinder side before casting aspersions that can be so unproductive. You will feel better about yourself.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 4:15 pm on Sat, Oct 27, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    Tell us, Mr. Heuer, why doesn't Obama jump at the chance make Trump write a $5 million dollar check for charity? What is he hiding in his college records, Selective Service records, passport records that he is terrified Americans will find out? Romney's tax records. What a laugh, If Romney had done anything improper, Obama and the IRS would have skewered him by now. Poor Axelrod is getting an ulcer trying to dig up non-existent "dirt" on Romney. Even Gloria Allred came up empty handed on her big "October Surprise". The only thing she found out was Romney was an ethical and capable man. I guess we should thank her for confirming what most people already know about Romney.

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 4:13 pm on Sat, Oct 27, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1666

    Oh nd the fileing system that is required for them. Hmmm There must be one labled Ms Bobin kind of like a stalker. It is sad.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 4:09 pm on Sat, Oct 27, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    Lybia was a great success? American military forces were committed to a hostile action without congressional approval. King Obama simply ordered them to participate. Ghaddafi is dead, the Muslim Brotherhood is poised to take over as they have in Egypt and will in Syria, Jordan and anywhere else Obama helps topple the current regimes under the guise of Arab freedoms. If you don't think Obama knew the Muslim Brotherhood would rise in places like these, you are as naive as it gets. Obama has aided Islamic Jihad more than the radical Islamics themselves. And YOUR tax dollars are paying for it. Wise up. But I guess in liberal eyes, Romney's taxes are far more important than the future of America.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 3:08 pm on Sat, Oct 27, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Ms Bobin stated...I stand by EACH and EVERY ONE of those comments...

    of course you do... and I'm sure it's with great pride and satisfaction.

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 11:49 am on Sat, Oct 27, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1666

    Mr Baumbach you do carry on. Ms Bobin has made some very spot on comments but you say "Clearly, over the years, Ms. Bobin has demonstrated that she dislikes Mr. Heath in a personal and passionate way. Not sure why, but in my opinion, she is almost venomous as she behaves as if she has a personal grudge." Now that is contray to what she said below "his "made-up" columns were entertaining and kept everyone laughing." (you see I don't have to drag up things over two years ago). Now that doesn't sound "passionate" or "venomous". You obviously have misjudged her.

    In fact lets turn this around and say clearly, over the years, Mr Baumbach has demonstrated that he dislikes Ms Bobin in a personal and passionate way. Not sure why, but in my opinion, he is almost venomous as he behaves as if he has a personal grudge. Yes I think that fits very well don't you?

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 11:30 am on Sat, Oct 27, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1666

    Oh yeah, and what did you think of those 6-10 years of tax returns from Romney?
    And Libya had been a great success getting rid of Ghaddafi in a short period of time unlike Bush that got us in quagmires for years. And the economy is recovering. Hillary is not going to continue as Sec of State even if Obama is elected again. I guess none of that matters to you.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 10:58 am on Sat, Oct 27, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Sorry, Mr. Baumbach, but Wade Heath has not matured in his thinking and his writing and journalistic skills - what he presumably went to college to hone - have not improved.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 10:28 am on Sat, Oct 27, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    CONTINUED....Ms Bobin posted...

    1. at 9:41 am on Mon, May 21, 2012... Does the editorial staff at the LNS actually read Wade Heath's columns? What offends me the most, other than the nonsense Heath writes, is how poorly written they are. Unfortunately, I had to read this column 3 times in order to figure out what he was trying to say.
    2. posted at 9:12 am on Thu, Apr 5, 2012...The day that Wade Heath actually writes a column that contains truthful statements will most like never arrive.
    3. posted at 9:36 am on Tue, Jul 17, 2012... As long as there are individuals who write columns, i.e., Wade Heath, and individuals who write letters and make comments in this forum that are bigoted, I will make a comment...as long as there are individuals who spew hate in this town, I will make comments...
    4. posted at 2:39 pm on Fri, Oct 14, 2011... Unfortunately, Mr. Baumbach has just lumped himself with the "does not have a clue" group along with Wade Heath.
    5. posted at 2:39 pm on Fri, Oct 14, 2011... Just because it took Wade 7 years to graduate from college, it does not mean that all 25 year-olds have done the same ( mocking Heath Wade)
    6. posted at 9:17 am on Thu, Oct 13, 2011...You have only one view, ultra-conservative and narrow-minded. It is too bad that your time in a more sophisticated setting like LA did not open your mind to the world.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 10:27 am on Sat, Oct 27, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Clearly, over the years, Ms. Bobin has demonstrated that she dislikes Mr. Heath in a personal and passionate way. Not sure why, but in my opinion, she is almost venomous as she behaves as if she has a personal grudge. I know Ms Bobin does not like that I use her own words to support my opinions of her
    intent and motivations as well as to refute her own accusations of others... but here are her statements.

    1. posted at 12:23 pm on Fri, May 25, 2012... He is well known for digging up obscure references that match his perceptions of the truth as well as that of crazy columnists like Wade Heath in an effort to prove both he and they are correct.
    2. posted at 6:01 pm on Thu, Oct 21, 2010... Just when I think that Wade Heath has matured journalistically, he disappoints me once again. To be soft on the fellow, I'll only pick on one topic in his column that illustrates how Wade has no idea what he is talking about.
    3. posted at 6:01 pm on Thu, Oct 21, 2010... Really, Mr. Heath...do you think that people are really this stupid? Then stated... PLEASE, LNS, our lovely vacation from this columnist was so blissful. WHY, WHY, WHY??!!??!!
    4. posted at 7:29 pm on Tue, Oct 19, 2010... Mr. Heath, however, had the habit of stating opinion that was not backed by any shred of evidence other than his ever popular "I heard while standing in line at the store that..."

     
  • William Dawes posted at 10:03 am on Sat, Oct 27, 2012.

    William Dawes Posts: 116

    Obama has to lose so we can get Hillary out of the Secretary of State position, and make sure she is held accountable for Libya, along with BHO. Hopefully, this will dash her hopes of running in 2016. The country can't afford BHO or Hillary Clinton, their bill is too high.

    I wish I could check BHO's college classes, like other presidents, to see if he even took an economic or accounting class. But he sealed all his records, and the media is protecting him. Shame, shame. I have never seen a president pay attorneys so much money to hide so much information that we should have already been told. So much for the transparency.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 9:22 am on Sat, Oct 27, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Ms Bobin stated...Mr. Heath had two favorite phrases that he used over and over and over in his columns back in high school

    Back in high school? How absurd to talk about Wade's thinking in high school as if he has not matured and developed adult thinking... if fact, how many college graduates change from a idealistic human beings focused on theory to a mature adult once they participate in the real world and have experience to draw on.

    Obviously, Ms Bobin has attacked and belittled Wade Heath for quite some time now simply because she does not like what he has to say.

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 8:31 am on Sat, Oct 27, 2012.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1506

    I can't count the number of people I have heard are taking pistol/revolver/other training, maybe for a CCW who claim their instructors are former SEALs. I'm pretty sure there have been more Green Berets than SEALs, but to my knowledge, I haven't met any.

    In my life I have known exactly 1 SEAL. I have known (that I'm aware of) 2 graduates from West Point. I obviously know of others that won a spot at various military acadamies, but I don't actually KNOW them.

    So were there active SEALs guarding the ambassador that night or contractors who were SEALs? If real SEALs were on the ground there, I doubt, based on what I know of SEALs, they would stand by and let the brothers be gunned down and not do something about it right there.

    For all the BS the wrong is throwing at this, they weren't in Tripoli, they were in Bengahzi where we don't have and embassy. The security team is small, but that may have been not to attract attention.
    Nothing draws attention faster than 2 or 3 black suburbans moving at 100 mph.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 6:41 am on Sat, Oct 27, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Heuer wrote: "If Mr Heath had a better day at writing as Ms Bobin stated then what ever worked for him then may be useful in the future."

    Mr. Heath had two favorite phrases that he used over and over and over in his columns back in high school and for a couple of years afterward. They were:

    "I overheard (so and so) talking" in the lunch line or at Target or wherever he happened to be catching the latest information about some issue of concern and teenage angst,

    and

    "Everyone was calling me asking, "Wade, what is going on with (fill in the blank)" as if the entire teenage population of Lodi was dependent on Wade Heath to sort out the latest goings-on.

    At least his "made-up" columns were entertaining and kept everyone laughing. Now, the copy and paste model - not so much.

    You may even have caught Wade Heath in his second career as a Target loss prevention uniformed officer - another basis for many columns in which he battled against the forces of shoplifting Lodians.

    This excellent column from May 2006 should be considered a benchmark in Wade Heath's career: http://www.lodinews.com/opinion/columnists/wade_heath/article_8e774ed5-2e49-55d4-8c3f-5814ba2e3c10.html

    And his local cable show on SJTV, referenced at the bottom of the column, was a thinly veiled advertisement for racial and ethnic biases.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 6:21 am on Sat, Oct 27, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    I saw this ad, which apparently is playing on MTV, yesterday on an MSNBC show, either Matthews or Schultz. As an oldster, I found it a little too provocative and actually distasteful - my husband didn't even understand what the actress was talking about - and the bottom line is - this was an independent ad, not sanctioned by the Obama campaign, but I am sure that Mr. Kinderman's favorite channel and all things next to godliness, FOX News, is making a heyday out of this.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 6:11 am on Sat, Oct 27, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Your final sentence sums this up perfectly!

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 5:40 am on Sat, Oct 27, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Great Post Mr. Kinderman. You are staying focused of the topic which is how president Obama has demonstrated time and time again how incompetent he which results in good America's losing faith in our president.

    Obama claimed he would have the most transparent administration ever. Now I think he is proven it so. It is very transparent that four Americans died because we have a community organizer as president that cannot possibly handle the job.
    This election is simply, vote for Obama if you think he did a good job in Libya… vote for someone else if you think he did a bad job.
    Vote for Obama if you want four more years of Federal power grabs and vote for Romney if you prefer power gravitating to the states.
    Vote for Obama if 8% + unemployment is good in your eyes, vote for Romney if you want a president who will support the private sector in creating new jobs.

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 12:52 am on Sat, Oct 27, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1666

    Of course wishful thinking leads to quick judgement. The Lebanon tradjedy under Reagan, embasies and the Cole bombing under Clinton, the soldiers killed and disgraced in Somalia under Bush 41/Clinton and of course 9/11 under Bush all have their tragic stories that get scrutinized as to could something have been done and Monday morning arm chair quarterbacks usually find pieces to suggest blame or if the detail is sketchy then accusations of cover-up get thrown out there. Obama said he takes full responsibility. Fact of the matter is Carp happens. However if you look for political opportunism then you will run with the pieces. And conservatives are looking to make something big despite all the tradgedies that have happened before. Its like after 9/11 I heard all the warnings that were given however in context we are watching the world and all of its hotspots and not so hotspots. When we get warnings of terror threats we are told it is from "chatter" thats heard. Pieces come in amidst a lot of other junk. I listened to this discussion of Foxs Hannity Show. The same thing that was on your Fox News URL. It is without a doubt a bad situation. But I take it in context because there are lots of bad things happening that are being given a pass on. Because this had opportunistic political ramifications I have to take a wait and see and find out more. Now Changs url led me to this piece you might find interesting. www.addictinginfo.org/2012/10/26/538-poll-update-of-republican-doom-1026/

    BTW where did you see the "the latest political advertisement that likens voting for Obama to having sex for the first time"? We don't get a lot of national political ads since there is no doubt how the vote will go in Calif. Its hard to remember now and I only voted for him 4 years ago.

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 8:43 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2367

    President Obama said Friday he was "not personally aware" of any request for more security by U.S. diplomats in Libya before the Sept. 11 strike on the consulate. (http://tinyurl.com/99z6e4p)

    If this turns out to be true, should the president be absolved from responsibility for being so unprepared for the attacks and the reported lackluster response in its aftermath? Or should the buck stop at Hillary Clinton’s desk, or elsewhere – if anywhere?

    Or might this be yet one more event that would force Wade Heath and others to lose faith in this president?

    Four more years of this? –I certainly hope not! But maybe enough Americans will be taken in by the latest political advertisement that likens voting for Obama to having sex for the first time.

    When will the madness end? November 6, 2012.

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 8:34 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1666

    Thanks Mike. I too had problems with this post. I mean "...and most media wouldn't dare print the truth." The favorite line of conspiracy nuts and taboid writers. The main stream media won't print it cause its either utsy or unverifiable. This would be a first for me to know navy seals. I got a little confused with the navy seal references. Were the navy seals guarding the embasy or were the guards at the embasy friends of former navy seals? And

    Threw Hillary under the bus??? In the debates Obama took full responsibility for the terror attack and tragic event (thaat made Romney look like a fool).

    Most ambasador positions are appointed by the administration via the state department. The ambassador in Benghazi was very well liked in Libya. When we supported the NATO action there there was much here about not having any boots on the ground. So what troops were supposed to be sent within hours to the embasy. Hoe were they to make their way through the crowds gathered there. What would be the impact of the troops presence on the crowds; Would they be seen as liberators or invaders? The simple minded believe we can just deploy trops any where to solve any number of problems. The ambasador was committed to the cause in Libya.

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 6:57 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1506

    Odd, Mr. Simon.... I have submitted posts that haven't posted and just disappeared. I write in the moment. I can't come back 3 hours later and do it again.

    Maybe you should check your templates.

    And your censorship rules.

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 6:55 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1506

    Darrell: Did you notice that the approval of congress occurred AFTER Bush was elected? After 9/11/01? What was it, 2003? Bush was in office (occupying the office) for over 2 years by then.

    I read a thesis from a student who documents over 1000 times how many times a Bush cabinet member linked Iraq AND 9/11, IN PUBLIC, with no correction by the administration.

    Say what you want....it is clear now (because we have the history to prove it so) and it was clear then.. I stated to anyone asked, the whole WMD thing is just a ruse to get oil. And we ain't even gittin' the oil now are we. The "yellow cake" story was debunked even before Bush uttered it four months earlier in GB.

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 6:48 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

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    Can a President, acting as NCA, as the head of the Executive branch be charged with murder by the House?

    I think maybe someone should put on a seminar on impeachment.
    On real impeachment, not the 1998 kind which so offended our nation and wasted even Judge Renquist's time (though I think they gave him a plaque or bowl to commemerate running the Senate for 100 hours. That was nice.)

    Glad to see you're still 4 square behind our President!!!!


    "liberal tactic #32... ridicule and make fun of the opposition to discredit whatever truth is presented..." Darrell, even you gotta admit, this stuff writes itself. You make it too easy. Maybe modify it to say "....ridcule and make fun of the opposition NOT using their own words or actions." See how that would limit our side? See?

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 6:40 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1506

    So these were SEALs that were there, right? On the ground with the security team and the ambassador?

    Are you even sure they were SEALs? An awful lot of people claim to have been a SEAL, yet even over the years, there have been a relatively small number of sailors who ACTUALLY were REAL SEALs.

    You found this on some website didn't you?

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 6:39 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1666

    Hey Wa
    I didn't know you had it in you

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 6:38 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1666

    Mr Heath needs to update his picture. When he stated he voted I had to relook at the picture since he didn't look like a person old enough to vote. However if it is a current picture I’ll stand corrected.
    This is a poorly written column and I agree with Ms Bobin who wrote earlier below "You can tell Mr. Heath didn't put an ounce of effort into this column. All he had to do was Google, "Everything the extreme right wing believes about Barack Obama" and the column just about wrote itself!" She also said "At least back then (as student reporter for Lodi HS) he made up his own material - now he just copies and pastes." And I say yes he drew references to the obviously slanted movie “Obama 2016.”
    The tired kinds of lines he uses include "this politician had a much more progressive agenda from the START..." It is not clear what he considers progressive and compared to whom? Obama may be left of center but then conservatives these days tact to the extreme right and Ronald Reagan today would be progressive. From the START the main effort was on keeping the economy from sliding into a major depression. And this was inherited from the previous administration. Without casting blame but Mr Heath even agrees when he says "It wasn't all rainbows and unicorns when George W. Bush was in charge, either, but that's just the thing — we were ALREADY in a MISERABLE situation, and Barack Obama was brought into power based on the idea that our MISERABLE situation would be rectified."
    So we were miserable and then the housing and credit markets collapsed, globally. All of our trading partners crashed as well and are having a harder time than we are to get out from under it. That alone says something for the president. Past recoveries were limited in scope and it was a matter of waiting for the economic engine to regain its head of steam. Our economy besides being crippled is now more global and its not simply a matter of us making the fix here it's about getting the rest of the world to get up to speed as well. The president has been successful in not only stabilizing the economy but actually continued improvement in the stock market, creating jobs, housing coming back, America is poised to become the greatest oil produce in the worldr. In fact we are exporting much of our oil to foreign markets. Natural gas has become so cheap it is threatening the whole coal industry. Of course in this effort many pre-collapse campaign promises had to be put on hold. There has been much whining on both sides about pre-collapes promises.
    So when Mr Heath said "Had the president even at least tried to have an impact on the economy in a positive way, I might give him a pass." If he did any research he would need to have given him a pass long before the current election.
    Mr Heath points out the sentiment of hope and change when he says “After eight years of Bush, a guy even his biggest supporters couldn't stand by the end of his tenure, we were all looking for someone to make us feel good again.” He also added the sentiment “return to greatness again.“ So when someone says how about that hope and change well that was it. We were down in the dumps from the Busn era and wanted to be rescued from “our MISERABLE situation. It iwas recognized when envious conservatives seeing Clinton at the dems convention found they couldn’t even have Bush show his face at their convention. Now the conservative have as their candidate someone who wants to return to the failed strategies that devastated the nation and the world. So Mr Heath tries the popular conservative ruse of admitting Obama was popular in a manner resembling talking to a distraught child who just got dumped in a relationship, there there, another will come along that, oh look there’s that boy Romney. If Mr Heath had a better day at writing as Ms Bobin stated then what ever worked for him then may be useful in the future. In trying here to do a post mortem on Obama here he actually finds the essence of hope and change.

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 6:36 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1171

    56 Republican Quotes Against Mitt Romney Every American Should Take Seriously

    http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/07/16/56-republican-quotes-against-mitt-romney-every-american-should-take-seriously/

    Interesting to hear what other Republicans have said of candidate Romney in the recent past.

    Doesn't appear that Romney is alone with regards to flip flopping.

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 6:24 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1171

    “He spent more time on the road to Damascus than a Syrian camel driver. And we thought nobody could fill John Kerry’s flip-flops! … [Romney's record was] “anything but conservative until he changed all the light bulbs in his chandelier in time to run for President.” ~Mike Huckabee, attacking Romney in his book for flip flopping, Do The Right Thing, 2008

    “Bless his heart, I have respect for Mitt Romney, but I do not have respect for what he has done through this debt increase debate. He waited until it was a done deal that we would increase the debt ceiling and more money would be spent, more money would be borrowed and spent on bigger government, and then he came out and made a statement that he didn’t like the deal after all. You can’t defer an issue and assume that the problem is then going to be avoided.” ~Sarah Palin, ripping Romney for avoiding taking a position on the debt ceiling debate until after Congress voted to raise it, Hannity, August 2011

    “The fact is, there are a couple of years he may not have paid any taxes. Maybe he’s concerned about that. But if it’s going to come out, he needs to get it out now so he has a couple of months to explain it.” ~Former Republican Congressman Joe Scarborough, “Morning Joe,” MSNBC, July 16, 2012

    [wink]

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 6:22 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1171

    “Those of us who believe in free markets and those of us who believe that in fact the whole goal of investment is entrepreneurship and job creation, we find it pretty hard to justify rich people figuring out clever legal ways to loot a company, leaving behind 1,700 families without a job.” ~Newt Gingrich, January 8, 2012

    ”I think it’s that program, just updated.” ~RNC spokesman Alexandra Franceschi, admitting that Romney’s economic plan is the Bush plan on steroids, The Fernando Espuelas Show, April 2012

    “I believe most Americans want their next President to remind them of the guy they work with, not the guy who laid them off.” ~Mike Huckabee, describing Mitt Romney in a 2008 campaign ad.

    [thumbup]

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 6:18 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1171

    “You can talk about the other back and forth, and flip-flopping and the other things. … If you’ve wrapped yourself up in too many pledges, that diminishes your ability to do what needs to be done in the final stretch to some extent.” ~Jon Huntsman, MSNBC, April 2012

    “I would just have a different policy than what he has espoused… We need to recognize we are not going to deport 12 million people, and … we shouldn’t.” ~Haley Barbour, criticizing Romney’s ‘self-deportation’ immigration stance, Christian Science Monitor breakfast, June 2012

    “Maybe Governor Romney in the spirit of openness should tell us how much money he’s made off of how many households that have been foreclosed by his investments.” ~Newt Gingrich, CNN debate, January 26, 2012

    [tongue_smile]

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 6:15 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1171

    “He changed his position on virtually everything. I’m a moderate Republican, that’s what I am, so I’d be inclined to support someone like Mitt Romney. But all those changes give me pause.” ~Rudy Giuliani, February 2012

    “Don’t just talk about Hispanics and say immediately we must have controlled borders. It’s kind of insulting when you think about it. Change the tone would be the first thing. Second, on immigration, I think we need to have a broader approach.” ~Jeb Bush, criticizing Romney’s stance on immigration and his attitude toward Hispanics, Q&A session, June 2012

    “I’ve never seen a guy change his position so many times, so fast, on a dime.” ~Rudy Giuliani, MSNBC, December 2011

    [tongue]

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 6:13 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1171

    “Gov. Romney has claimed to have created 100,000 jobs at Bain and people are wanting to know, is there proof of that claim? And was it U.S. jobs created for United States citizens?” ~Sarah Palin, Hannity, January 2012

    “If you’re not sure about whether to support Mitt Romney, whether you’re liberal, or whether you’re very conservative, you ought to be excited, because he’s been on your side at one time or another. So I’m not completely misunderstood. I’m not as excited as I am desperate.” ~Louie Gohmert, Republican conference, April 2012

    “Governor Romney supported the bailout of Wall Street and decided not to support the bailout of Detroit.” ~Rick Santorum, Detroit, Michigan, February 2012

    [lol]

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 6:10 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1171

    “Pick any other Republican in the country. He is the worst Republican in the country to put up against Barack Obama.” ~Rick Santorum, calling Mitt Romney the worse Republican anyone can possibly pick to be the nominee, Racine, Wisconsin, March 2012

    “He glosses over and doesn’t even tell the truth. … Here is a guy who is the ultimate flip-flopper running for president, and he’s attacking me for not being principled? That doesn’t wash.” ~Rick Santorum, campaign event in Tennessee, February 2012

    “I do not yet know if I will find a Romney presidency more acceptable on foreign policy. But I do know that I must oppose the most recent statements made by Mitt Romney in which he says he, as president, could take us to war unilaterally with Iran, without any approval from Congress.” ~Rand Paul, National Review, June 2012

    [wink]

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 6:07 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1171

    “If you have things to hide, then maybe you’re doing things wrong. I think you ought to be willing to release everything to the American people.“ ~Alabama Governor Robert Bentley, calling for Romney to release more years of tax returns, AP, July 14, 2012

    “They (voters) want to know what’s the truth. They’re not interested in a chameleon.” ~Michele Bachmann, criticizing Mitt Romney’s flip flopping, speech in Florida, December 2011

    “Well, I think you hit a reset button for the fall campaign. Everything changes. It’s almost like an Etch-A-Sketch. You can kind of shake it up and restart all over again. But I will say, if you look at the exit polling data in Illinois, you’ll see that Mitt Romney is broadly acceptable to most of the factions in the party. You have to do that in order to become the nominee…” ~Romney Communications Director Eric Fehrnstrom, describing his boss as a man who can’t make up his mind, CNN, March 21, 2012

    [beam]

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 5:02 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    Unshackled by sworn secrecy while on active duty, a couple of SEAL's speak out. Obama continues to lie about the truth and most media wouldn't dare print the truth. He threw Hillary, and anyone else he could, under the bus to keep his re-election chances alive. Shameful. No wonder the active military personnel want him GONE.

    "Obama's love affair with the Muslim Brotherhood poses a clear and present danger to America, but worst of all are the lies and failure to act, especially in Benghazi, that got my buddies KILLED," says Brad Nagel, 20 year Navy veteran and former SEAL.

    "If Obama sent Ambassador Stephens to a death sentence mission in Benghazi; what will he be willing to do to the American people to appease what appear to be deep Muslim Brotherhood ties?" - asked former Navy SEAL Benjamin Smith.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 3:58 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mislead customers? peddling insurance? Imagine if?


    "everyone" agreed on WMD is a myth, fabricated by neo-cons ?

    Evidently, Jeff's having a bad day. Cheer up Jeff!!!! [beam][lol]

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 3:38 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2367

    Mr. Chang wrote earlier that, “Everything that goes on here is meaningless. Everything.”

    While I would agree that up to one very important point he might be correct. I doubt that anyone’s mind has ever been changed because of what has gone on here - at least politically speaking. I hope that no one here has been irreparably harmed by anything others have written; but it’s surprising how some take conversations like these just a tad too seriously.

    On the other hand, there is one very important thing that is absolutely meaningful here, especially since we’ve been required to post our true identities.

    Character has been revealed here, Mr. Chang. Through our words we reveal to others who and what we are and what we stand for. Now if you don’t think that has meaning, then I feel very sorry for you.

    How we express ourselves with every word and baseless accusation is a direct reflection of our character. Looking back I’d say there are quite a few very troubled people out here; or do you really think it’s all “meaningless?”

    Oh, and for those who have not posted their comments using their true identities as required; what does that reveal about them?

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 3:22 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    There are many lies... and many truths...From your perspective, which lie are you referring to?

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 2:48 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    OWE = Because he has added to America's debt more than any other president, EVER.

    BLAME = Because he blames anything negative on everyone else except himself.

    O = Because it rhymes with OWE.

    I realize you idolize him and cry like a groupie when he speaks, but not everyone else shares your opinion, get over it.

     
  • Bobcatbob Ingram posted at 2:42 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    99er Posts: 119

    Well Darrell ...It was a lie.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 2:39 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    And you have the gall to accuse Mr. Heath of "cut & paste"...Pathetic.

     
  • Bobcatbob Ingram posted at 2:39 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    99er Posts: 119

    A guy who can admit he made a mistake and apologise for it, is a true gentleman and somebody worth paying attention to, Thank You Jerome.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 2:38 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    As BrainDead Biden would say, "MALARKEY".

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 2:34 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    Hey BoBBin, here's a great idea. DON'T READ HIS COLUMNS.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 1:18 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Barrow stated...I am glad to see that you actually do see censorship as negative.

    Yes, I do... which is one reason why liberalism is so distasteful to me...

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 1:16 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    For Mr. BaXXterr's benefit: And this from just ONE sentence of WH lies!

    WH: "More seriously though, after $16 trillion in debt,"

    Federal debt when BO took office: 10.6 trillion
    BO's share: 4.8 trillion

    WH: "surging unemployment," "the longest slump in housing history,"

    Romney says the numbers for unemployment, bankruptcies and foreclosures are “soaring.” That’s simply not true. They all started rising sharply under Bush, continued to rise for a time under Obama, but then peaked and are currently declining.

    The number of households that received a foreclosure notice grew from 1.3 million to 2.3 million during Bush’s last year in office, according to RealtyTrac, a company that monitors foreclosures across the country. The number continued to rise under Obama to 2.8 million in 2009 and peaked at 2.9 million in 2010. However, the amount of households that received a foreclosure notice dropped to 1.9 million in 2011.

    WH: "more people living in poverty,"

    It’s true that “more Americans wake up in poverty than ever before,” as Romney said. But it’s also true that there are more Americans, period.
    Furthermore, Census noted that the number in poverty had increased for four consecutive years, so the rise started well before Obama took office."

    WH: "an apology tour to those we owe no apologies to,"

    Regarding Romney accusations from his book:

    Our fact-checking colleagues at PolitiFact and the Washington Post Fact Checker both pored over those speeches, and others, and wrote detailed analyses of the content of Obama’s words. Their conclusion: Obama never apologized.

    WH: "national credit ratings being lowered,"

    Ryan faulted Obama for a credit downgrade for which Ryan’s own party shares equal responsibility.

    Ryan refers to the decision of Standard & Poor’s, the credit rating agency, to downgrade its score for U.S. Treasury obligations from AAA to AA+ on Aug. 5, 2011. That took place just four days after Congress voted to raise the federal debt ceiling, following lengthy negotiations in which House Republicans sought to force concessions from Obama and Senate Democrats as the price for raising the ceiling and averting the first default on Treasury debt payments in U.S. history.

    In its report, Standard & Poor’s blamed both Republicans and Democrats for failing to come to agreement on spending cuts or revenue increases sufficient to reduce U.S. deficits significantly.
    S&P, Aug. 5, 2011: The political brinksmanship of recent months highlights what we see as America’s governance and policymaking becoming less stable, less effective, and less predictable than what we previously believed. The statutory debt ceiling and the threat of default have become political bargaining chips in the debate over fiscal policy. …

    It appears that for now, new revenues have dropped down on the menu of policy options.

    Ryan, of course, is among those Republicans opposed to any “new revenues” from tax increases.

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 1:13 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1666

    Ms Bobin is absolutly correct as usual

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 1:11 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Actually Ms Bobin, your vivid imagination is getting the better of you. I genuinely enjoy providing information that corrects your misinformation...

    The more I post, the better my day becomes...it is fun and interesting to participate.
    This activity provides a break to my long work day.

    It is only your liberal filter that would lead you to draw such a silly conclusion... nice try.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 1:07 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Actually Ms Bobin, the previous 31 are from your book, you already have them... please reference it.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 1:02 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405


    Together we must also confront the new hazards of chemical and biological weapons, and the outlaw states, terrorists and organized criminals seeking to acquire them. Saddam Hussein has spent the better part of this decade, and much of his nation's wealth, not on providing for the Iraqi people, but on developing nuclear, chemical and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them."
    President Clinton, Jan. 27, 1998

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:35 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    "liberal tactic #32... ridicule and make fun of the opposition to discredit whatever truth is presented..."

    Please, while you are typing furiously, give us the other 31 tactics.

    "Opposition?" You do know how to flatter yourself!

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:14 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    "I know liberals like to force people to do what they want so it is natural for Mr Barrow to resent being edited without his permission."

    Has anyone else (I know Mr. Chang has) noticed that Mr. Baumbach's head is about to explode? If you hear a loud bang in the area of School Street or further up north in Acampo, you will all know what happened.

    Calm down, Mr. Baumbach. You sound desperate.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:08 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Better do it soon....the REAL destruction will begin once President Obama is re-elected - it will be "no-holds barred," no way to stop his evil self from not only "fundamentally transforming America," but incorporating it into the "one-world" government currently forming in secret (as in over the past 35 years - which begs the question, "Just how long does it take to form a one-world government?) way down in Dr. Evil's secret lair beneath the desert in Nevada.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:02 pm on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Anyone will notice that "James Bell" sounds just like "Darrell Baumbach." Is this your latest incarnation of yourself, Mr. Baumbach?

    I have counted at least 5 others in the past who appear from nowhere and have backed up your opinions to a T. Then suddenly disappear, never to be heard from again.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 11:48 am on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    As Nancy Pelosi so advised... in 1998...

    "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
    -Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 11:44 am on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Speaking of a lack of maturity...."Owe-Blame-O?"

    Says it all about Mr. Baxter.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 11:43 am on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Wrong, Mr. Baxter. I have refuted many of Joe Guzzardi's columns with facts that are contrary to his half-truths, misleading statements and downright lies.

    I have also done the same with Wade Heath - two LTE's over the years and many comments.

    I am tired of his lack of journalistic maturity and honesty and do not need to counter any of his claims since they are the same tired old list of nonsense which he has copied and pasted from any website that is anti-Obama.

    And FYI - if you have ever read any of Joe Guzzardi's articles that he writes for other publications, you would notice that he doesn't get fast and loose with the facts - his columns published here are for a specific audience - Lodians like you.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 11:41 am on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    liberal tactic #32... ridicule and make fun of the opposition to discredit whatever truth is presented...

    Clearly, Obama was effective in transforming America with Obama"not"care... Lex Luthor analogy is absurd.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 11:36 am on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Tillett is being sacastic, right? " not facted based"? Sad... coming from a person who is supposed to be educating our kids with reality.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 11:34 am on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1591

    Edit would imply that they are changing the comments adding to them or taking something out I don't think this is what LNS would be doing if they were doing anything which they say they are not. By allowing a comment to be posted or not based on LSN opinion of the article would not be editing. Censor is a more appropriate term but I am glad to see that you actually do see censorship as negative.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 11:22 am on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    However, you used the word censor, which has a negative connotation. You implied they are doing something they should not. I used the word edit, as it reflects the papers "right" and responsibility to control their product as they see fit.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 10:08 am on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1903

    Bobbin posted, "That is the problem with Wade Heath. His limited journalistic abilities have not changed since he was the LNS student reporter for Lodi HS. At least back then he made up his own material - now he just copies and pastes."
    Her REAL problem with Wade Heath and Joe Guzzardi is that they write columns that she doesn't agree with. So instead of offering valid points refuting their opinions, she opts to attack them on a personal basis, her preferred method of dealing with anyone that has opinions that aren't the same as hers. By the way, Mr. Heath is right on with his reasons to lose faith in Owe-Blame-O. Millions of Americans feel the same way, hopefully enough to get him kicked out of the Oval Office.

     
  • Jeff Tillett posted at 9:51 am on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 554

    sorry, forgot, IOKIYAR...

     
  • Jeff Tillett posted at 9:48 am on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 554

    Mr. Bell was being sarcastic, right? "fact based"? Too funny...

     
  • Jeff Tillett posted at 9:41 am on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 554

    Yes, like those fine fellows over at the Project for a New American Century. You know the neo-cons who called for a multi-theater invasion of Iraq, et al. to prove our military might, and did so long before 9/11 (9/00). Wolfowitz, Kristoll, Libby, Kagan, Scheunemann... it was a who's who of GWB advisers. We invaded Iraq because, among other factors, it fit their narrative and intent.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century

    "while the unresolved conflict in Iraq provides the immediate justification [for U.S. military presence], the need for a substantial American force presence in the [Persian] Gulf transcends the issue of the regime of Saddam Hussein" and "Over the long term, Iran may well prove as large a threat to U.S. interests in the [Persian] Gulf as Iraq has. And even should U.S.-Iranian relations improve, retaining forward-based forces in the region would still be an essential element in U.S. security strategy given the longstanding American interests in the region."[14]

    One of the core missions outlined in the 2000 report Rebuilding America's Defenses is "fight and decisively win multiple, simultaneous major theater wars."

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 8:51 am on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1591

    I didn't say they didn't have the right to do it of course they can do what they want with their paper . I simply asked if that was what was going on. I did receive a response from Mr. Birch assuring me that they were not censoring letters which I appreciated.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 8:48 am on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1591

    Maybe we should lock Obama up and any other individual who has it in their power to single handily destroy America. he's like Lex Luthor or something Oh were is Superman when we need him.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 8:42 am on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1591

    Yes Darrell we have been worried about WMD in Iraq for years that is why the UN had inspectors in place. If Bush had allowed them to complete their work, as the inspectors requested, we could have avoided that war instead his administration cooked the books to drum up support for the war. It is a Presidents responsibility to cautiously send our young people to war and Bush sent them way too casually.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 8:30 am on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1591

    Thanks Simon

     
  • Simon Birch posted at 8:16 am on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Simon Birch - Online Manager Posts: 169 Staff

    No. Comments are still posted without approval. There was an update to our templates this week and it looks like the wrong message is being displayed. I'll work on changing it back.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 6:18 am on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Barrow stated...does this mean that LNS is censoring our comments?

    This is a free country. This is the property of Lodi News Sentinel, a private business. They should be free to edit all posts they deem inappropriate based on the standards they set.

    I think each post each person makes is a privilege. We are free to go elsewhere if we do not like their editing.

    I would ask Mr Barrow, would he personally pay money to LNS if they loose money because they do not edit? Of course not... so obviously LNS should have control over the product they produce.

    I am never offended if a comment of mine is deleted or edited. I know liberals like to force people to do what they want so it is natural for Mr Barrow to resent being edited without his permission.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 5:55 am on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    This is an example of why I have no faith in liberals like Obama and the media that protects them.

    "March – 1 May 2003",
    was the start of the conflict known as the Iraq War, or Operation Iraqi Freedom, in which a combined force of troops from the United States, the United Kingdom, Australia and Poland invaded Iraq and toppled the regime of Saddam Hussein in 21 days of major combat operations.

    “December 2001”...

    Senator Bob Graham , Chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence (democrat) stated... a few months after the Twin Towers fell... biological, chemical and nuclear weapons programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." -

    How in the world can any objective person believe it was Bush that lied?

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 5:49 am on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1171

    “meaningless...”

    Darrell, don’t flatter yourself.

    Everything that goes on here is meaningless. Everything.

    All of your 9000 postings. Wade’s column. Every hateful rant. Every whiney tale of woe.

    Everything!

    To think otherwise…

    Is absurd!!!!


    [wink]

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 5:36 am on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    I guess Bush was so brilliant and god like that he was able to convince Kennedy, Kerry and Bill Clinton there were weapons of Mass destruction in 1998 before he was even president...

    Maybe Mike and the left is saying that George Bush should have assumed Bill Clinton was a liar about Sadam... Mr." I did not have sex with that woman " Clinton obviously is a liar"and should not have been trusted by Bush. Even Ted Kennedy said We have known for "MANY YEARS" that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." on Sept. 27, 2002.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 5:24 am on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mike Adams stated...The repeated leaning of comments elicited by those on the left to support the invasion of Iraq in 2003 has always been traced back to submission of lies the Bush administration

    This is the blatant lie of the left .. an obvious falsehood based on comments made before Bush was president by the Clinton Administration and prominent democrats...

    1. We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
    Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
    -- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998
    2. "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
    -Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998
    3. "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
    --President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 4:12 am on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Bell is obviously a man who can articulate his thoughts well without concern for political correctness. Refreshing!

    I personally do not perceive Obama and Biden should be charged with murder, but it is clearly obvious that this event alone demonstrates the incompetence of the Obama Administration and dangers American's face as a consequence of their policies.

    After all, we have a second rate community organizer attempting to be president. Clearly, the Peter Principle applies here. We have a chance to correct a wrong by voting in November for Romney.

    Lastly, I agree with Mr Bell about Wade Heath; Wade writes well and has matured beyond his years.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 3:57 am on Fri, Oct 26, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mike stated...It's nice to include the narrative by prominant democrats at the time, but we know that the Bush administration used only information that agreed with the reasons they would use to gain support for the invasion

    Mike, did you not notice that many of these noted democrats made the statements about WMD before Bush was even elected? Clinton had control of the information and facts . Clinton passed on the the intelligence to the Bush administration. 9/11 happened within months of Bush taking control and relied on years of intelligence the Clinton administration accumulated.

     
  • James Bell posted at 8:45 pm on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    James Bell Posts: 1

    Wade Heath's article is a well written, articulate, succinct, patently substaniated, fact based opinion of a socialist's attempt to destroy America single handedly. I have not read a better, more believable, ingenious narrative in years. Heath may be young, but he is more wise than many I know and certainly wiser than anyone that would cast their vote for a President that allowed our American Patriots to be murdered in Benghazi, and then lie to the American public about it. Despicable! Obama & Biden should be charged with murder and impeached.
    A fabulous account Wade. We hope to hear from you every week!

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 6:07 pm on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1171

    "I previously wrote..."

    [sleeping][yawn][sleeping]

    ZZZZZZzzzzzz......


     
  • Mike Adams posted at 5:54 pm on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1506

    The repeated leaning of comments elicited by those on the left to support the invasion of Iraq in 2003 has always been traced back to submission of lies the administration continued to assert in the run up to the invasion.

    When UN inspectors can find "0" evidence for weapons of mass destruction, and I mean not a single drop... that should have raised a red flag immediately.

    It's nice to include the narrative by prominant democrats at the time, but we know that the Bush administration used only information that agreed with the reasons they would use to gain support for the invasion. It didn't matter where the intel came from. There reliance upon the testimony of 1 person (who we latter found out made it all up) would have hinted that maybe the Bush administration was not giving either the citizens of the US or congress good information. The continual assertion that Iraq had a role in 9/11 was discouraged publicly by the white house, yet it continued on more or less unabated until we invaded.

    Quite honestly, the whole episode shameful. I'm sure many parents who lost sons and daughters in the invasion and occupation feel more at ease now knowing that there was absolutely no reason to invade Iraq.

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 5:49 pm on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2367

    I previously wrote, "It’s interesting that now Colin Powell is an “American Hero;” but what about when he was fully endorsing moving against Saddam Hussein due to his own belief that there were WMDs under the control of that country?"

    Within that sentence I made an egregious error. It should have read, "It’s interesting that now Colin Powell is considered an “American Hero” by many Democrats; but what about when he was fully endorsing moving against Saddam Hussein due to his own belief that there were WMDs under the control of that country?"

    I have always thought General Powell to be nothing but an officer of the highest caliber with integrity that could never be successfully challenged. I maintain that sentiment to this very moment. If I wrote anything that would have anyone think otherwise, then I apologize to General Powell.

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 5:45 pm on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1506

    Darrell,
    A better summation for this piece is the author didn't vote for Obama, and more or less, just listening to conservative talk radio, watching Fox, and reading conservative leaning publications.

    Hence, it should have been titled: "Why I Never Liked Obama"

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 5:43 pm on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1506

    I think that that is exactly what it means!

    I've written posts that have not shown up and have no idea why they weren't installed.

    Maybe they have to do this

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 5:42 pm on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Endorsements to me are not very important, but since this thread is talking about them, here are a couple of others.

    After a lifetime of voting for and supporting Democrats — and even declining appointment to the U.S. Senate from a Democratic governor — Lee Iacocca Thursday endorsed Republican Mitt Romney for president.

    Obama's 2008 Campaign Co-Chair Endorses Mitt Romney
    “Artur Davis, the former Obama campaign co-chair, will be campaigning for Mitt Romney today in Virginia, according to the Romney campaign.

    lorida Democrat Party's Executive Director under Bill Clinton
    “In 1992, I was the executive director of the Florida Democratic Party. I managed political operations for the Democrats in one of the largest swing states in our nation.

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 5:20 pm on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1171

    "YOUR COMMENT HAS BEEN SUBMITED FOR APPROVAL"

    I'm doomed...

    [wink]

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 5:17 pm on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1171

    "juvenile" and "ill-educated"

    Punk wasn't appreciated either...

    [beam]

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 5:15 pm on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1171

    I predict 9000 or more total post by election eve...

    [lol]

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 4:42 pm on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    "We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
    -- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

    Maj. Gen. David Petraeus,
    Commander 101st Airborne May 13, 2003
    Before the war, there’s no doubt in my mind that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, biological and chemical. I expected them to be found. I still expect them to be found.

    "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
    -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 4:40 pm on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    "I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
    -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

    "There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
    -- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

    "He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
    -- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 4:37 pm on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Evidently, George Bush had plenty of people advising him once 9/11 happened.

    I wonder why it is that suddenly, George Bush and only George Bush is claimed to have lied to the American people... seem to me that if it were a lie, Pinocchio would have a very busy day.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 4:32 pm on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
    -- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

    "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
    -- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

    "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
    -- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 4:31 pm on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Tony Blair, Prime Minister 18 March, 2003
    Well, there is no question that we have evidence and information that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction, biological and chemical particularly . . . all this will be made clear in the course of the operation, for whatever duration it takes.

    "Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
    -- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

    Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, February 5, 2003
    We have sources that tell us that Saddam Hussein recently authorized Iraqi field commanders to use chemical weapons — the very weapons the dictator tells us he does not have.

    Every day Saddam remains in power with chemical weapons, biological weapons, and the development of nuclear weapons is a day of danger for the United States.
    Sen. Joseph Lieberman, D-CT, September 4, 2002

    Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction.

    Colin Powell February 5, 2003
    Iraq both poses a continuing threat to the national security of the United States and international peace and security in the Persian Gulf region and remains in material and unacceptable breach of its international obligations by, among other things, continuing to possess and develop a significant chemical and biological weapons capability, actively seeking a nuclear weapons capability, and supporting and harboring terrorist organizations.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 4:28 pm on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    More democrats who agreed even before Bush was president...quotes from their own mouths...


    "Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
    --Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

    "He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
    --Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

    "[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
    Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
    -- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

    "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
    -Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 4:27 pm on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Tittett brings words of wisdom to LNS...The idea that "everyone" agreed on WMD is a myth
    It is true, not “everyone “ agreed.. Without doubt, many students that Mr Tillett teaches and under his control would also most likely agree it was a myth .Imagine if a student took a test in school which addressed that issue. If they disagreed with his assessment, a red check mark would follow.

    I am certain that millions of others also agreed with Mr Tillett, so yes, not “everyone” agreed about WMD...
    So who did agree?

    "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
    --President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 4:11 pm on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    In my view, Powell is irrelevant to the discussion that this thoughtful article addresses. Clearly, Mr Heath outlines the reasons why a reasonable person would lose faith in Obama.

    As Mr Heath stated, We've never been more divided. Our future has never looked so bleak. Things have not rebounded and we are far worse off than four years ago.

    Instead of focusing on our economy Obama wasted valuable resources and ran up our national deficit to devastating amounts..He instead focused on a health care agenda that intended to capture Federal power rather than improve health care and reduce costs. Private sector jobs were ignored and failure guaranteed by an incompetent president.

    Mr Heath concluded, he failed and asked if we could get past the pride thing and agree that it's time to try someone else? A better word would have been "reality" thing instead of "pride" thing.

    Unfortunately, there are some who cannot. As normal, conservatives will be the adults and do what is right even though liberals want to pretend everything is ok.


     
  • Walter Chang posted at 3:57 pm on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1171

    "I'll continue to wait for General Powell"

    Hang tight, Dude.

    We'll get our "all telling" memoirs...

    A future "best selling" hardback...

    From the General...

    Right after Senior, Rummy and Dirty D-i-c-k are mostly dead and gone!

    [beam]

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 3:57 pm on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1591

    I just noticed that when posting a comment it used to read that YOUR COMMENT WILL POST MOMENTARILY now it reads YOUR COMMENT HAS BEEN SUBMITED FOR APPROVAL does this mean that LNS is sensoring our comments?

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 3:53 pm on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1591

    Collin Powell gave his endorsement for Obama this morning I would encourage everyone to listen to this endorsement. You can say what you want about Obama but Powell has proven himself to be an honorable man with years of distinguished service to this country.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71d3xGq04uU

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 3:49 pm on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Baumbach wrote: "How funny that Colin Powell was considered an uncle Tom.."

    Why is this language being allowed? I guess "juvenile" and "ill-educated" are more SERIOUS than a racial slur.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 3:45 pm on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    "It’s interesting that now Colin Powell is an “American Hero;”

    Colin Powell was an "American Hero" long before he took the position of Secretary of State under George Walker Bush. Unlike some who opted for a four year stint - Powell dedicated 35 years of service to the United States Army and served in TWO wars and the invasion of Panama.

    Obviously, his resignation meant a lot more than just a "passing" dislike of the administrations policies.

    To denigrate a man, who, when he entered the military in 1958, no doubt faced many challenges due to his race, is shameful - no matter WHO he endorses for President of the United States.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 3:41 pm on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1591

    Powell has spoken and written about the UN speech calling it a blot on his record. Like a good soldier he never actually came out and blamed Bush for deceiving him but instead accepted the responsibility himself. Powell wrote that “I am mad mostly at myself for not having smelled the problem, my instincts failed me.". It was at this point in time that Powell was embraced by the left who I think felt sympathy for him. I think Powell has too much character for it but maybe the Iraq incident has something to do with today's endorsement

     
  • Jeff Tillett posted at 2:47 pm on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 554

    The idea that "everyone" agreed on WMD is a myth, fabricated by neo-cons to make everyone feel better about what they had wanted to do long before GWB became president. I know you don't explictly make that case, but you suggest that was prevailing wisdom.

    http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/media/news/2008/06/12/4534/think-again-iraqi-weapons-of-mass-destruction/

    Your real problem is that the sources outing the myth before the invasion are "liberal", "left-leaning" news outlets. And they may be such, but... they were right. And if they were right about that, what else have/are they right about.

    as to Colin Powell... he has talked about the "blot" on his record, you just chose not to read about it.

    http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/colin-powell-iraq-wmd/2011/02/16/id/386373

    http://articles.cnn.com/2005-08-19/world/powell.un_1_colin-powell-lawrence-wilkerson-wmd-intelligence?_s=PM:WORLD

    http://www.minnpost.com/eric-black-ink/2012/05/colin-powell-discusses-wmd-blot-his-record

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 1:00 pm on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2367

    It’s interesting that now Colin Powell is an “American Hero;” but what about when he was fully endorsing moving against Saddam Hussein due to his own belief that there were WMDs under the control of that country? I remember so vividly Powell’s presentation to the United Nation with charts, pictures and his eloquent way of putting things that finally had them and me convinced. Even so, I recall equally as well commenting to a colleague of mine at the company where I worked at the time it was agreed to go to war that there had better be weapons of mass destruction or there would be he!! to pay. When no WMDs were found I was very concerned; but at least I hadn’t been alone in my thinking that they were there and that they posed a threat to the region and to us. Of course Hussein had been in possession of these illegal weapons – there’s no doubt he even used them against his own citizens. The only question now is where they went and how did we miss the transfer.

    Ever since then as I’ve been personally pummeled for my support of that war and why we invaded Iraq in the first place, I’ve been patiently waiting for Colin Powell to come forth with his explanation as to why he encouraged the United Nations and the American people to go to war. But nothing substantial has ever emanated from the man – much to my continued dismay. I really do want the truth.

    Nevertheless, Iraq was not the brain child of one rogue president bent on getting back at a despot who defied his father and escaped justice during the elder Bush’s term. The majority of Congress was behind the president whilst Army General Colin Powell stood stoically by his side.

    Hero or sap? I suppose as long as he does what the Democrats want him to do now he’s the former; but insofar as his life as a supporter of George W. Bush he’ll always be the latter. Error, inconsistency or blatant hypocrisy? I’ll let others make that determination. I’ll continue to wait for General Powell to set the record straight once and for all.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:36 pm on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Wade Heath writes a column - this is not a "letter."

    "Wise beyond his years?" "Objective?"

    Hardly.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:20 pm on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    From the Washington Post - Why Grover Norquist (the Great Dictator) needs to be stopped: It is guaranteed that Norquist will be pulling Romney's strings since Romney doesn't have a single policy he wants to own up to.

    "Norquist explained why he believed that there would be a permanent Republican majority in America. Norquist immediately replied: “We will make it so that a Democrat cannot govern as a Democrat.”

    In a way, Republicans have accomplished that. This spring, in an effort to reduce the deficit, a Democratic president proposed to cut $2 trillion in spending, much of it from domestic programs Democrats have long championed. Last week, Republican leaders withdrew from talks with the vice president on a bipartisan plan to reduce the deficit because, as another part of the solution and like every bipartisan budget deal for decades, the president proposed to raise revenue. Specifically, he proposed to raise $1 in new revenue (through closing loopholes or ending the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans) for every $2 in spending cuts. In response to that modest proposal, Republican leaders walked out."

    "Video


    Republicans won't consider tax increases in the debt debate.

    Norquist immediately replied: “We will make it so that a Democrat cannot govern as a Democrat.”

    "In a way, Republicans have accomplished that. This spring, in an effort to reduce the deficit, a Democratic president proposed to cut $2 trillion in spending, much of it from domestic programs Democrats have long championed. Last week, Republican leaders withdrew from talks with the vice president on a bipartisan plan to reduce the deficit because, as another part of the solution and like every bipartisan budget deal for decades, the president proposed to raise revenue. Specifically, he proposed to raise $1 in new revenue (through closing loopholes or ending the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans) for every $2 in spending cuts. In response to that modest proposal, Republican leaders walked out."

    It is now clear that the Republican strategy is to drive America to the brink of fiscal ruin and then argue that the only way out is to cut spending for the powerless. Taxes — a dirty word thanks to Norquist’s “no new taxes” gimmick — are made to seem beyond the pale, even as the burden of paying for our society shifts disproportionately to the middle class and working poor."


     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 12:07 pm on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Clearly, Mr health is wise beyond his years and is objective in his assessment.

    I look forward to more fair and balanced thinking from his future letters

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 12:03 pm on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    How funny that Colin Powell was considered an uncle Tom and hated by the left when he served George W. .. since he has endorsed Obama the left thinks Powell walks on water and hopes he runs for president in 2016...

    My view, focus on Obama's policies and harm he has inflicted on America as president.

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 10:47 am on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1171

    Speaking of a class act…

    Colin Powell on Thursday endorsed President Barack Obama for reelection.

    “Arguing the president has improved the poor economy he inherited and sharply criticizing Mitt Romney’s foreign policy positions as a ‘moving target.’”

    “Powell had even harsher words for Romney’s foreign policy, questioning his changing stances on withdrawing from Iraq and Afghanistan.”

    “The governor who was speaking on Monday night at the debate was saying things that were quite different from what he said earlier,” Powell said.

    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1012/82860.html?hp=f1

    [beam]

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 10:44 am on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Docktor wrote: "And the corporations not exempt will be phasing out many of it's full-time workforce to not have to provide them Obamacare. It looks like there won't be as many getting health ins. as was once thought."

    Mitt Romney was way ahead in the game of "phasing out full-time workforce" with his signature achievement that he loves to brag about:

    From "Mitt Romney - The Great Deformer":

    "Ironically, the businesses and jobs that Staples eliminated were the office-supply counterparts of the cracker-box stores selling shoes, shirts, and dresses that Bain kept on artificial life-support at Stage Stores Inc.

    At length, Wal-Mart eliminated these jobs and replaced them with back-of–the-store automation and front-end part-timers, as did Staples, which now has 40,000 part-time employees out of its approximate 90,000 total head count.

    The pointless exercise of counting jobs won and lost owing to these epochal shifts on the free market is obviously irrelevant to the job of being president, but the fact that Bain made $15 million from the winner and $175 million from the loser is evidence that it did not make a fortune all on its own."

     
  • Jeff Tillett posted at 9:28 am on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 554

    'Might I be too quick on the trigger this time?

    I don't think so. Not with all of the magic and dreams that were promised to me by a president proclaiming great change and unification.'

    Yeah, for those two months you really gave him a chance didn't you, wade. 'Magic and dreams'. right...

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 9:16 am on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1666

    Romney fullfills Grover Norquists requirement for president. He stated they only need a president with enough working digits to handle a pen and sign sign off on what they hand him. I Guess thats the only qulification we know Romney can meet.[scared]

     
  • Thomas Heuer posted at 9:10 am on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    nth degree wise Posts: 1666

    Applause to Eric

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:48 am on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    That is the problem with Wade Heath. His limited journalistic abilities have not changed since he was the LNS student reporter for Lodi HS. At least back then he made up his own material - now he just copies and pastes.

    I see that his former employer, "NationalTalkLive.com" has already gone bust. I sure hope he finds new employment soon.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:38 am on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Baumbach wrote: "Romney deserves our vote."

    Yes he does - especially when he endorses candidates who believe that getting pregnant from a rape "is a gift from god."

    And has changed his position on every single position he has campaigned on for the last 7 years.

    We can't take a chance on finding out what he will really do when everyday is a new day at the Romney camp.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 8:34 am on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1591

    Speaking of heroes, how about that endorsement for Obama from Four Star General Colin Powell? I could list all of the achievements of Powell but lets just leave it at American Hero. Let’s see Powell indorses Obama and Wade doesn’t hmm

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 8:16 am on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1591

    This is the most disingenuous article I have seen yet out of Wade. I doubt Wade ever supported Obama if he had he would not repeat the lies from the right wing crazies. Wade just pick your side and stay on it quite trying to pretend that you ever had one once of support for this President. The only reason I can imagine for this article is an attempt to insult our intelligence. The problem is that the column is so shallow and thinly veiled it makes your journalistic skills as well as your intellect appear juvenile.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 8:04 am on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Ms Bobin stated...And why Wade Heath claims he has "lost faith in President Obama," is puzzling.

    Let me help you out Ms Bobin... Mr Heath is an average American who was deceived by president Obama into thinking he had America's best interests at heart.

    Many had faith in his hope and change illusion. After almost four years of failure after failure after failure, it has become obvious that faith in Obama is absurd. Thus, a reasonable thoughtful person would naturally lose faith in Obama. It is only his sheeple and kool Aid drinkers who are not thinkers who still believe and have faith in Obama.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:51 am on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    I think Ill focus on Obama's policies, record and statements to determine if he deserves my vote... Who cares who endorses anyone.

    Based on his anti-growth, anti-jobs and anti- private sector positions, Romney deserves our vote.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:38 am on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857


    Wade wrote:

    He failed. Can we get past the pride thing and agree that it's time to try someone else?

    -Evidently not Wade. There are those who aren't under any obligation to go down with the ship. They have this idea the ship will somehow get divine intervention and things will be good again. Looks like B.O. isn't that divinity.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:24 am on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    Many corporations, such a McDonalds are exempt from Obamacare and it's mandates.
    And the corporations not exempt will be phasing out many of it's full-time workforce to not have to provide them Obamacare. It looks like there won't be as many getting health ins. as was once thought. And the corporations exempt from Obamacare? Looks like the whole Obamacare plan isn't what it's cracked up to be.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 6:54 am on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    "Electronic pen"....you mean the "copy" and "paste" functions of his word processing program, right?

    And why Wade Heath claims he has "lost faith in President Obama," is puzzling...here is his column from March 2009 in which he already "lost faith."

    http://www.lodinews.com/opinion/columnists/wade_heath/article_cf2a0046-c73e-51cd-a8a6-437979a1cd0a.html

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 5:49 am on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Ms Bobin stated...You can tell Mr. Heath didn't put an ounce of effort into this column.

    What Ms Bobin really meant was... Ms Bobin perceives Mr Heath didn't put an ounce of effort into this column.

    That could be true. Since Mr. Heath knows his subject matter well, is a good judge of truth and can articulate what he thinks easily, it might not take the hours of time Ms Bobin is accustomed to when attempting to post comments here on line.

    No, his writing most likely is effortless as the words flow easily from is electronic pen.
    Good point Ms Bobin.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 5:23 am on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    You can tell Mr. Heath didn't put an ounce of effort into this column. All he had to do was Google, "Everything the extreme right wing believes about Barack Obama" and the column just about wrote itself!

    I'm actually surprised he didn't mention the Obama 2016 movie as he basic reference for Obama myths.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 4:36 am on Thu, Oct 25, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Ms Bobin stated..."It's funny, the other morning I could have sworn I was being followed by one of Lodi's finest when I began to think...

    Oh my, based on Ms Bobin's past posts, I wonder if she was concerned about being followed by Lodi's finest? They could not write a script in Hollywood better.

    Joanne Bobin posted at 5:44 pm on Wed, Jun 15, 2011... Don't worry, Mr. Baumbach. While walking through Lodi I don't have to look under rocks, through windows, etc. All I have to do is enjoy a cup of coffee at Starbucks at 6AM and eavesdrop on the Boys Club (retired police, fire and sheriffs) who convene there daily, to hear some hair-curling bigoted talk. How do I know what their occupations were? One would have to be deaf to not hear them brag about their huge retirement checks and benefits.

     

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