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Joe Guzzardi: Major corporations’ words, actions don’t match up on immigration, employment

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42 comments:

  • Brian Dockter posted at 4:52 pm on Sat, Sep 21, 2013.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2740

    Actually,
    They wouldn't turn a blind eye to the issue. But don't try to convince folks like Ms. Bobbin it"s not all about skin color.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 4:48 pm on Sat, Sep 21, 2013.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2740

    Looks like the comment about this jamboree was removed.

    I do have a theory why one would post such a thing, though. it kind of fits in with their belief if it was a bunch of Whites crossing the borders Illegally those people oppsed to Hispanics crossing the border Illegally would just turn a blind eye to the issue. In other words, these folks can no longer be called racist.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 9:07 am on Sat, Sep 21, 2013.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2740

    I may have to post some of the parts of the report describing the legal loopholes that led to all of these sex offenders being released. Not that it will change Ms. Bobbin's mind. But there are clearly loophioles in the immigration laws that do for one thing compromise America's sovereignty.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 9:02 am on Sat, Sep 21, 2013.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2740

    I haven't read the whole report. The parts that I have describe the many loopholes in the immigration laws. It seems to me many of the loopholes are almost purposely put in there. Now, I'm not a lawyer, nor will I ever go as far as saying I am an expert on this issue. But, just from what little I have read in the report I find it hard to understand why Ms. Bobbin, who seems to be a proponent of imigration reform, would be in such disagreement with Andrew and I.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 9:14 pm on Fri, Sep 20, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2684

    The GAO report, the Washington Times, Brian and myself are all lying is your position concerning ICE's release of 2,837 convicted illegal immigrant sex offenders?

    Seriously?
    [lol]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 5:07 pm on Fri, Sep 20, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2684

    You have already been provided a link
    to GAO report. [sleeping] It does not contain theories. It contains facts relating to the release of illegal immigrant sex offenders. [sleeping]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 4:57 pm on Fri, Sep 20, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2684

    What does the release of 2,837 convicted illegal immigrant sex offenders have to do with a white supremacist jamboree in ND? [sleeping]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 4:47 pm on Fri, Sep 20, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2684

    He already did. http://www.gao.gov/assets/660/657831.pdf [sleeping]

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 4:33 pm on Fri, Sep 20, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4301

    Doesn't verify anything. Try reading it yourself and then give me direct quotes that confirm your "theories."

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 4:31 pm on Fri, Sep 20, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4301

    Think before you write and post something worth reading.

    Your nonsense is simply that....NONSENSE.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 4:30 pm on Fri, Sep 20, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4301

    Go ahead and "make yourself happy" by proving your claim, Mr. Dockter.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 4:29 pm on Fri, Sep 20, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4301

    You should be surprised because the GAO report you make reference to has nothing to do with your post.

    Try reading it next time.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 4:25 pm on Fri, Sep 20, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2684

    The GAO's report has everything to do with it which is why it was used as the source for the Washington Times article. [sleeping]

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 8:40 am on Fri, Sep 20, 2013.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2740

    Ms. Bobbin stated:

    I really don't care about illegal alien sex-offenders being released because I cannot verify that information.

    -I'm still trying to make some sense of this statement and not having very much sucess. Even if Ms. Bobbin could prove this particular incident nev er ocurred. She would also have to prove there has never been an incident of illegal alien sex offenders being released, which is highly unlikely.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 11:21 pm on Thu, Sep 19, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2684

    I'm hardly surprised! [lol]

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 9:59 pm on Thu, Sep 19, 2013.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2740

    Why am I not surprised Ms. Bobbin completely ignores or just out right disregards the GAO report?

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 9:32 pm on Thu, Sep 19, 2013.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2740

    Ms. Bobbin,

    Please provide us some proof to back up your belief the GAO is collaborating with the Wash Times and other news sites to advance the untruths about Illegal Alien sex offenders being released here in the U.S.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 9:26 pm on Thu, Sep 19, 2013.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2740

    http://www.gao.gov/assets/660/657831.pdf


    Ms. Bobbin,

    So are we to conclude the link above to the Gov Accountability Office where the Wash Times and many other news sites got their info from on the Illegal alien sex offenders being released is not a valid source either according to you?

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 8:58 pm on Thu, Sep 19, 2013.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2740

    Ms.Bobbin Stated,


    And please, Mr. Liebich, don't tell me that the "Washington Times" is a valid source. We've already explored that ridiculousness.

    -Chuckle,

    I'd be more than happy to site many Left Leaning media sites that are often vaslid sources. Unlike Ms Bobbin i would never say Conservative sites all always valid sources. Nor would I say Liberal sites are always unvalid sources.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 8:49 pm on Thu, Sep 19, 2013.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2740


    Ms. Bobbin Stated,

    I really don't care about illegal alien sex-offenders being released because I cannot verify that information.

    I am MORE concerned with all of the sex offenders who are not convicted because so-called "smart" lawyers get them off (pun not intended) and they are out on the streets without a day of incarceration.


    -Now I've heard it all. According to Ms. Bobbin. it doesn't matter if others can verify
    illegal alien sex-offenders being released she still doesn't care. but she is concerned all those sex offenders who are gotten off by smart lawyers. I'm sure we could verify many of these sex offenders who have goten off are Illegal aliens. Does this mean Ms. Bobbin is no longer concerned because She cannot or most likely unwilling to verify many of them are Illegal Aliens?

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 9:53 am on Thu, Sep 19, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2684

    The information can be quite easily verified by simply reading the GAO report which was released last thursday as I have already suggested. [sleeping]

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:08 am on Thu, Sep 19, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4301

    "If Obama was elected to look out for the needs of all Americans why is he allowing 2,837 convicted illegal immigrant sex offenders to go free?"

    WELL, WELL, WELL....why am I not surprised that the ONLY sources on this information are conspiracy theory websites? And please, Mr. Liebich, don't tell me that the "Washington Times" is a valid source. We've already explored that ridiculousness.

    I really don't care about illegal alien sex-offenders being released because I cannot verify that information.

    I am MORE concerned with all of the sex offenders who are not convicted because so-called "smart" lawyers get them off (pun not intended) and they are out on the streets without a day of incarceration.

    Get angry about that FIRST and then I'll get back to you.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 5:12 pm on Tue, Sep 17, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2684

    If you organize a protest I would be happy to attend.

    Now answer the question rather than avoid it Ms. Bobin...

    "If Obama was elected to look out for the needs of all Americans why is he allowing 2,837 convicted illegal immigrant sex offenders to go free?"

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 12:08 am on Tue, Sep 17, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2684

    Ms. Bobin,
    Certainly the release of 2,837 convicted illegal immigrant sex offenders isn't OK with you. Is it?

    Mike seems to be OK with it.
    [sleeping]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 7:32 am on Mon, Sep 16, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2684

    OK... Andrew Liebich posted at 12:51 am on Mon, Sep 16, 2013.
    "Read the GAO report which was released Thursday."[sleeping]

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 6:35 am on Mon, Sep 16, 2013.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1271

    Anyone, anywhere....please

    SHOW ME A POST THAT andrew DIDN'T STEAL FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE!!!!

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 12:53 am on Mon, Sep 16, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2684

    Please direct me to a Mike Adams post that isn't completely ad hominem in nature.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 12:51 am on Mon, Sep 16, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2684

    Read the GAO report which was released Thursday. [sleeping]

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 7:07 pm on Sun, Sep 15, 2013.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1271

    Should we nick the surface and go ahead and find out this isn't true, or it's decades old, or comes from one of the solid news sources like infowars?

    You know, even Hannity and Limbaugh think infowars is just a joke.

    Yet for andrew it is the bible and alex jones his lord.

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 7:04 pm on Sun, Sep 15, 2013.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1271

    What? Can't find anything cute to copy?

    They are laughing at you andrew.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 10:37 am on Sun, Sep 15, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2684

    Please direct me to a Mike Adams post that isn't completely ad hominem in nature...
    [rolleyes]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 10:35 am on Sun, Sep 15, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2684

    If Obama was elected to look out for the needs of all Americans why is he allowing 2,837 convicted illegal immigrant sex offenders to go free? Apparently illegals , no matter what country they are from, have more rights than US CITIZENS do.
    [sleeping]

    Do you think ICE should be allowed to release illegal sex offenders to the streets?


     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 10:00 am on Sun, Sep 15, 2013.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2740

    Pot, kettle, black. But from the Liberal side of the aisle.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 9:59 am on Sun, Sep 15, 2013.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2740

    Joe,

    It figures. In other words, what we have here is a vested interest.

     
  • John Lucas posted at 9:33 am on Sun, Sep 15, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2726

    Typical Conservative logic and trash talk . Cannot attack the argument attack the person. It gets so tiresome.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 6:33 pm on Sat, Sep 14, 2013.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2740

    Oh, she did say ticks. Same difference.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 5:47 pm on Sat, Sep 14, 2013.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2740

    First of all. Joe Arpiao and his deputies have no intention to kill Illegals UNLESS they are put in a situation where they have to defend themselves. Frankly, I don't know what she is trying to accomplish by advancing this kind of rubbish. The truth is, most of the deaths to Illegals can be attributed being murdered by the coyotes or other groups who bring them across the border, by exposure to the elements in the desert, or just plain stupidity on their part for committing crimes here in the U.S. and beingshot and killed by law enfiorcement defending themselves. Obviously Ms. Bobbin reitterates she is not the least bit concerned about securing the border, in so many words. American sovereignty is at stake here. But don't try to convince Ms. Bobbin those prayer rugs found along the border are from Islamic terrorist who have discovered the easy way to enter the U.S. I probably could arrange to have Joe Arpaio meet with Ms. Bobbin to give here the low down on what's really going on. But the sheriff may end up opting out oce he get's briefed on her and her beliefs that we can never provide enough for the Illegals on account of how they are the victims
    and America and it's greedy corporations have brought them here against their own will.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:23 pm on Sat, Sep 14, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4301

    Mr. Chaney: Let's drill this down quickly - Brian is going to start with the "trash" and "property destruction" along the border, then he'll move on to illegals taking all those valuable jobs that Americans (don't) want, then he'll break you with the "what's the matter? Don't you believe in American sovereignty?" and "My boss is a good friend of Joe Arpaio" which makes me a "good friend of Sheriff Joe" and his heroic effort to kill illegal immigrants like they were ticks on a dog.

     
  • Doug Chaney posted at 11:01 am on Sat, Sep 14, 2013.

    advocate Posts: 499

    Truth? Fair and balanced, right, Brian?

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 10:56 am on Sat, Sep 14, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4301

    Good points on corporate greed, but as always, Joe mixes apples and oranges with the goal of convincing the average idiot in his audience that illegals are taking American jobs.

    Americans DON'T WANT THOSE JOBS! If they did, they'd have them, at least jobs that are closely monitored by EEOC. Agricultural jobs, obviously, are easier to fudge on. And Americans don't want to work in the fields. It has been proven, no matter what Mr. Dockter has to say.

    The 11 million (estimated) that are here illegally are, for the most part, already employed either full-time or seasonally. In jobs that Americans don't want.

    Joe Guzzardi would have much more credibility if he stopped mixing immigration issues in order to make the average reader with an incredible gullibility gap believe his nonsense, as opposed to his sense.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 9:33 am on Sat, Sep 14, 2013.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2740

    What's wrong Doug? You're not interested in the truth?

     
  • Doug Chaney posted at 5:51 am on Sat, Sep 14, 2013.

    advocate Posts: 499

    Give it up, Joe?

     

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