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Joe Guzzardi: Would Cesar Chavez back immigration reform?

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86 comments:

  • Mike Adams posted at 11:06 am on Fri, Sep 13, 2013.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1439

    I rest my case.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 8:58 pm on Thu, Sep 12, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    6 TIMES! [sleeping]

     
  • Mike Adams posted at 6:24 pm on Thu, Sep 12, 2013.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1439

    Joe Arpaio.....what a nut!!!!

    It could only happen in Arizona where any nut can be elected sheriff!

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 1:32 am on Thu, Sep 12, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    All factual statements which are continually substantiated on a weekly basis.
    [sleeping]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 1:06 am on Thu, Sep 12, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Why is it my fault that you are ignorant concerning Judge Snow's ruling?

    The ruling is public record. [sleeping]

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:44 pm on Wed, Sep 11, 2013.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2850


    Ms. Bobbin wrote:

    I think that you have no idea what "American Sovereignty" is, Mr. Dockter.

    More propraganda from your anti-immigrant boss, I suspect.


    -Again with your vivid
    imagination

    Unlike you, the vast majority of Americans want a secure border. Your sentiments indicate quite the contrary.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 1:16 pm on Wed, Sep 11, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    You can doubt it all you want but it's true. Your intellectual laziness isn't my fault.
    [sleeping]

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 11:45 am on Wed, Sep 11, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    I doubt that, Mr. Liebich.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 11:44 am on Wed, Sep 11, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    I think that you have no idea what "American Sovereignty" is, Mr. Dockter.

    More propraganda from your anti-immigrant boss, I suspect.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 11:41 am on Wed, Sep 11, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    "Took the bait?"

    I think that my comment was an unintended consequence of your bragging about your boss and his relationship with Arpaio.

    OOOPS on your part.

    No conspiracy... just a bunch of brown-nosing on your part.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 4:56 pm on Tue, Sep 10, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1886

    Nope, according to you I am "ignorant" so I guess you will just have to spell it out for me.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 12:57 pm on Tue, Sep 10, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Last month Judge Snow delayed the ruling on mandatory measures to improve operations of the Maricopa County Sheriff Department. Judge Snow allowed until September 18, 2013 to submit briefs. As usual, you are opinionated rather than informed Ms. Bobin. P.S. Judge Snow's ruling pertained to a civil case.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:50 am on Tue, Sep 10, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    HOW'S THIS, THEN?

    PHOENIX, Aug. 31 (UPI) -- A federal judge says a monitor will be appointed to oversee the operations of Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio, who was FOUND GUILTY of racial profiling in May.

    The ruling by U.S. District Judge Murray Snow appeared to satisfy both sides in the long-running controversy, KSAZ-TV, Phoenix, reported Friday.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 9:26 am on Tue, Sep 10, 2013.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2850

    Ms. Bobbin,

    Has the thought ever occurred to you many of your sentiments here are the antithesis of maintainiing and preserving American Sovereignty?

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 9:23 am on Tue, Sep 10, 2013.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2850

    Ms. Bobbin,

    You took the bait hook line and sinker. Here's something else for your conspiracy theory. Joe Arpaio is also the owner of the building where my boss has his clockshop. In other words, He's the landlord. Now you can really build a case against me and my boss. But we all know you're not the least bit interested in the truth.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 8:44 am on Tue, Sep 10, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1886

    Brian, can you imagine the frustratiion poor Obama faces trying to railroad Arpaio and not succeeding? Trying to attack Syria and not succeeding. Trying to suppress Behghazi, IRS and Fast & Furious scandals and not succeeding. Americans, including some his past staunch supporters, are finally disassociating themselves from this inept clown, Obama is under the illusion that he is the "darling" of the world and will get his way on everything. Egomaniacs, like him, get their behinds handed to them.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 8:32 am on Tue, Sep 10, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1886

    Ha ha ha, grasping at straws,eh Bobbin?

     
  • robert maurer posted at 8:19 am on Tue, Sep 10, 2013.

    mason day Posts: 448

    Now, how would Chavez react to Sheriff Joe if he was alive today?

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:11 am on Tue, Sep 10, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Oh, I'm sure you do, Joe.

    Just like you to take pot shots and make inferences, but when it comes to saying out-right what you are implying your courage fails.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:09 am on Tue, Sep 10, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Perhaps, Andrew, it is the WAY they are used, not just the use of them, so it doesn't matter that the DOJ "gave" them, which, by the way, was most likely "gave them the money" in a grant program to purchase equipment.

    I suppose you could liken Arpaio's department's use of stun gun to the way the LAPD uses physical force on suspects. That is EXCESSIVE use.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:07 am on Tue, Sep 10, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Oh, so that explains everything. You have a vested interest in supporting Arpaio's crimes because he is a good friend of your boss. It's all about job protection, not justice.

    Interesting!

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:51 am on Tue, Sep 10, 2013.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2850

    Joe Baxter,

    That's for your input. We seem to be on the same page. My boss is a close friend with Arpaio I miised out on a recent fundraiser Araio was part of. My boss said I could come.
    It was the day of my Son's birthday party. it ended up completely slipping my mind.

    Anyway,
    Folks like Ms Bobbin aren't intersted in the truth that Arpaio's crimesweeps are very well thought out and even advertised many days in advance. His intentions are not to harass or violate civil rights. One has to understand when he and his deputies go into these neighborhoods that tend to have a high concentration of Hispanics, legal and illegal, there is always a slight chance some may perceive civil rights are being violated. Lawyers that work for or are associated with organizations for open borders lick their chops when they have a chance at filing another suit against Arpaio. Curious they've never been able to make anything stick.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 5:24 am on Tue, Sep 10, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1886

    I don't have any idea what you are talking about and I seriously doubt you do either.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 5:22 am on Tue, Sep 10, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1886

    Bobbin, WIKI? Really? From someone who continutally derides poster references as "phony" you offer up Wiki to suppor your position? Considering that anyone with an ideological or political axe to grind and a smattering of writing ability can spin falsehoods on Wikipedia without challenge from the site's editors, it is possibly the worse source for reliable and factual information available. Try again.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 11:00 pm on Mon, Sep 9, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Ms. Bobbin,
    Did you know Amnesty International also claims that Arpaio's use of stun guns is inhumane? However, they conveniently fail to point out that the stun guns were given to the Sheriff's Office by the Department of Justice in a grant program, and both the Department of Justice and the National Sheriff's Association approve of their use.
    [sleeping]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 10:52 pm on Mon, Sep 9, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Because Arpaio's critics such as yourself have not been able to defeat him in the polls or find any wrongdoing, you can only resort to blatant distortions of the truth. But hey, for people who have already made up their mind about Arpaio, it's best not to let the facts get in the way of their opinion.
    [rolleyes]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 9:12 pm on Mon, Sep 9, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Most definately another heaping helping Mr. Baxter. A "convicted criminal" can't hold public office. [lol]

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:33 pm on Mon, Sep 9, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Wassamatter, Baxter? Don't want to be charged with libel for making false (and ignorant) accusations of breaking federal law?

    Did you consult your attorney and then chicken out?

    You need to take Mr. Dockter's advice of Sunday, Sept. 1, at 9:19AM

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:28 pm on Mon, Sep 9, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Wrong. Charges were filed. He was found guilty. No consequences for Arpaio.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:27 pm on Mon, Sep 9, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio

    Who really gives a gd if this piece of garbage lives or dies. The man is capable of anything and he could care less if it's legal or not.

    He's an 81 year old senile bigot who needs to go away and never be heard from again.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 6:29 pm on Mon, Sep 9, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1886

    Post proof of what you claim or it simply becomes more liberal dumpster stew.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 6:29 pm on Mon, Sep 9, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1886

    Bobbin posted, "He even had his own detectives recruit an individual to cook up a plot to kill him with a pipe bomb."
    Aha, straight from the UNBIASED liberal media pundits, eh? Maddow, Matthews, Schulz? Gollleee, if they said it, it must be so. PROOF, verifiable PROOF needed for your ignorant statements. Liberals are so gullible.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 6:26 pm on Mon, Sep 9, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1886

    AGHAST!! Arpaio isn't a native Arizonan. Why that's downright despicable. By the way Joanne, are you a native Californian? Since when did it become illegal to work in a state in which you were not born? You might look at who accused Arpaio of all the crimes you seem to think he has committed. You can trace most of them back to Obama's boyfriend, Eric Holder. If you don't think Obama is out to exact revenge on Arpaio, you are as naive as they come.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 5:06 pm on Mon, Sep 9, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Disgraceful? Like Joe Arpaio is some kind of saint?

    He's a criminal. He was convicted but not sentenced to any time for his crimes.

    Disgusting.

     
  • robert maurer posted at 4:58 pm on Mon, Sep 9, 2013.

    mason day Posts: 448

    Thanks for the update. Where I am, the populace will not tolerate criminals. They end up dead or incarcerated under less than desireable conditions whether by citizens or cops. [thumbup]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 4:17 pm on Mon, Sep 9, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    The 3-year, disgraceful witch-hunt of Sheriff Joe Arpaio by the Obama Department of Injustice was dropped a year ago with absolutely no charges filed in the matter. [sleeping]

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:50 am on Mon, Sep 9, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Baxter wrote: "Obama is throwing his full weight against him because he "dared" investigate his past credentials. ILLEGAL law breaking border crossers are screaming racist because he dares to enforce state and federal immigration laws. The words "Racist" and "Bigot" are the go to words liberals and ILLEGALS love to use in attempts to discredit and ridicule anyone who questions their agenda or activities."

    This is just so humorous...Do you know, Mr. Baxter, that Joe Arpaio is not even a native Arizonan?

    He move to Arizona specifically to campaign as sheriff and institute his own brand of justice. He is simply a bully who thinks he can get away with anything.

    He has had more that 2 dozen investigations into his activities as sheriff for money laundering, corruption, misappropriation of funds, ignoring certain crimes against certain people.

    He even had his own detectives recruit an individual to cook up a plot to kill him with a pipe bomb.

    He is a crook who is using his position as sheriff to run roughshod over the law enforcement and legal system.

    As far as Obama - why would he bother getting revenge? Why not get revenge against Donald Trump and all the other idiots who have tried to prove that he was not born in the US, too? That statement of yours is just asinine.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:39 am on Mon, Sep 9, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Baxter wrote: "I hear that non-citizens will even find a moron to marry them in order to stay in America."

    Why in the world would you "suspect" that I was a "moron" as stated above, Mr. Baxter?

    Do you know something I don't know? If so, let's hear about what you THINK you know.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 11:56 am on Sun, Sep 8, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    [thumbup]

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 10:38 am on Sun, Sep 8, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1886

    Any government agency will have corrupt people. IRS, CIA, FBI, DOJ, military personnel, local and state law enforcement. Does that mean they ALL are corrupt? Maybe in your mind. I personally know many past and present people in law enforcement that were solid dedicated and upstanding citizens. Even they hate the ones that go "bad".

     
  • Doug Chaney posted at 10:37 am on Sun, Sep 8, 2013.

    advocate Posts: 502

    Your bigotry will be your demise someday.

     
  • Doug Chaney posted at 10:35 am on Sun, Sep 8, 2013.

    advocate Posts: 502

    What a moronic statement, Joey boy.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 10:34 am on Sun, Sep 8, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1886

    ABC? Anythiing Barack Claims? They are as bad as Yahoo, Huffington, MSNBC and the rest of the liberal Obama idolizer medial. Just more liberal hogwash.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 10:32 am on Sun, Sep 8, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1886

    Nope, but I suspect YOU might be.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 10:31 am on Sun, Sep 8, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1886

    Again, make up your mind. Are links to media writings and videos a legitimate source or not. Wait, I get it now. If they support your claims they are legitimate, if they don't, they are phony and not legitimate. More liberal hogwash.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 10:28 am on Sun, Sep 8, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1886

    Bobbin, YOU have been called a racist, does that make you one? Odd how Sheriff Joe wasn't hardly even mentioned, on a national level, until your boy, Obama, who is one of the biggest racist in America, was elected. Obama is throwing his full weight against him because he "dared" investigate his past credentials. ILLEGAL law breaking border crossers are screaming racist because he dares to enforce state and federal immigration laws. The words "Racist" and "Bigot" are the go to words liberals and ILLEGALS love to use in attempts to discredit and ridicule anyone who questions their agenda or activities. Someone makes fun of any past Republican president, you laugh, if someone makes fun of Obama, you scream racist. Typical mush brained liberal personality traits.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:18 am on Sun, Sep 8, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Chuckle....

    He's been called a racist because he is one.

    Here are a variety of agencies that think he's a jackass - and not all are "pro-illegals," either:

    "His practices have been criticized by government agencies such as the United States Department of Justice, United States District Courts, and organizations such as Amnesty International,[51] the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), the Arizona Ecumenical Council, the American Jewish Committee, and the Arizona chapter of the Anti-Defamation League. The editorial board of The New York Times called Arpaio "America's Worst Sheriff". Controversial issues surrounding Arpaio have included allegations of racial profiling, in which the ACLU has sued the sheriff."

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:44 am on Sun, Sep 8, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Or maybe the Arizona Star?

    http://azstarnet.com/business/border-patrol-wrestles-corruption-as-number-of-agents-grows-rapidly/article_c1bc43de-6b55-5d63-935d-ce0be17bcc8e.html

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:14 am on Sun, Sep 8, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    I don't know where you get such personal information about Brenda Norrell, who just happened to write that article - probably made-up like everything else you say, Mr. Baxter.

    Is ABC News better for you?

    http://abcnews.go.com/US/corrupt-guard-offers-inside-mexican-drug-cartels/story?id=14519807

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:09 am on Sun, Sep 8, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Who's whining, Mr. Baxter? Oh, that's right, it's you?

    Didn't know you had turned away from the dark and into the light.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 11:20 am on Sat, Sep 7, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1886

    Hmm, I have heard the LIBERAL pundits refer to him as "Sheriff Joe", they must have affections for him also. Only in the LIBERAL mind can a man elected as Sheriff and upholds state and federal laws be branded a "criminal" while the ILLEGAL, law breaking, border crossers are viewed as victims. More liberal dumpster stew.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 9:02 am on Sat, Sep 7, 2013.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2850

    Ms Bobin stated:


    Sheriff "Joe" as you so affectionately call him is a criminal. Too bad he didn't get time for civil rights violations. That's the pity of the whole thing. He is a racist who should be run out of office.

    -He's been accused of being a racist because he refuses to play ball with groups for open borders. The interesting thing is, it's only groups protecting Illegal Hispanics. No other groups that are on the side of Illegals from other nations are that stupid to question his job to uphold and enforce immigration laws.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 8:38 am on Sat, Sep 7, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1886

    Bobbin, make up your mind. First you ridicule any posts that refer to websites to substantiate a point, saying things like, ANYONE can make up stuff and post it as facts, i.e."Lodi Herald", et al, and then you post some blogsite from a left wing "journalist" that has been censored and fired from ever legitimate job she ever had and we are suppose to believe her unsubstantiated claims as fact?

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 8:12 am on Sat, Sep 7, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1886

    Hah, !! Nothing funnier than a whiney liberal. Music to my ears.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 7:53 am on Sat, Sep 7, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1886

    I hear that non-citizens will even find a moron to marry them in order to stay in America.

     
  • Doug Chaney posted at 6:27 am on Sat, Sep 7, 2013.

    advocate Posts: 502

    Entering the US illegally is a civil infraction. If you're caught?

     
  • Doug Chaney posted at 6:25 am on Sat, Sep 7, 2013.

    advocate Posts: 502

    Your bias and racism is embarrassing.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 3:28 am on Sat, Sep 7, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Just think about your stupid statement, Mr. Dockter. "America is the only nation that allows anchor babies."

    I think we can all agree that America is a place that allows a lot of stuff, that's why people want to come here. Heck, they even allow racists like you to run around freely spouting your idiotic opinions. Be happy about that at least.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 3:24 am on Sat, Sep 7, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Yes, and Coyotes are criminals. The border agents are supposed to be the "good guys." Let's put things in perspective, Mr. Dockter.

    Sheriff "Joe" as you so affectionately call him is a criminal. Too bad he didn't get time for civil rights violations. That's the pity of the whole thing. He is a racist who should be run out of office.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 8:44 pm on Fri, Sep 6, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    "Entering the United States illegally is not a crime Mr. Liebich, look it up."
    [sleeping]

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 8:29 pm on Fri, Sep 6, 2013.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2850

    Ms. Bobin stated:

    I never said I didn't care, Mr. Dockter

    -You never said you cared either. [angry]

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 8:26 pm on Fri, Sep 6, 2013.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2850

    Ms. Bobin,
    Are you suggesting the border agents aren't the least bit concerned about securing the border? Also, all those hospitals that closed up in L.A. and San Diego is not because of lack of funding. it's because most of the people going to the emergenciy rooms were Illegals crossing the border to get free medical care. Does anchor baby ring a bell? America is the only nation that allows anchor babies.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 8:12 pm on Fri, Sep 6, 2013.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2850

    Oh I am Ms. Bobin. I'm also concerned with the issue of the Coyotes running drugs, committing sexual assaults, committing murder, taking bribes, etc.? But it's people with your mindset that won't allow law enforcement to detain Illegals out of fear they will be sued for racial profiling. Sheriff Joe used to be able to round up Illegals until it was no longer politically correct to round up people who fit the description that is almost always Hispanic in AZ. To he and his deputies it doesn't make a bit of sense to turn a blind eye to the enormous influx of Illegals intto AZ who are Hispanic.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 8:03 pm on Fri, Sep 6, 2013.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2850

    It's not just trash. it's also destruction of property. But you'll just carry on with your denial Illegals do anything wrong. The very fact you bet it's mostly Californians who litter and not Illegals is a perfect dispaly of your unwillingness to acknowledge the negative econonomic impact Illegals have. on the U.S.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 6:45 pm on Fri, Sep 6, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1886

    I have a splendid idea, Joanne. Why don't you offer up proof that Cesar Chavez was PRO-ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. What's that? You can't? Figured as much..

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 6:42 pm on Fri, Sep 6, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1886

    OHHhhh now I get it. You consider the deceased labor leader Chavez a sacred dead hero? So, does that make Jimmie Hoffa, Sr sacred also? Don't fret, people in India consider cows sacred, you are in good company.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 1:28 pm on Fri, Sep 6, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    I'm also wondering why you are not concerned with the issue of corrupt Border Patrol Agents and sheriffs, both running drugs, committing sexual assaults, committing murder, taking bribes, etc.?


    http://narcosphere.narconews.com/notebook/brenda-norrell/2013/09/arizona-border-mainstream-media-clueless

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 1:23 pm on Fri, Sep 6, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    I never said I didn't care, Mr. Dockter. I'm just saying that trash is a problem all over, no matter who causes it.

    Maybe you can start a border clean up day. I'll be volunteering my time on September 21, for the California Coastal Cleanup Day.

    Last year volunteers collected 770.000 lbs. of trash from beaches, waterways and lakes, that 385 tons of trash.

    Don't know how many illegals were involved in creating that much trash, but I'm willing to bet it was mostly Californians who couldn't give a darn about throwing their trash in a trash can.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 8:46 am on Fri, Sep 6, 2013.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2850

    Ms Bobin,

    I know it is difficult for you to understand the difference between trash in your neighborhood and the decimation by Illegals on the border. Yes it is a side topic to Joe Guzzardi's column. We all know that. And we also know you have made your point, in so many words, the decimation on the border is of little or no concern to you. Put that in you pipe and smoke it![beam]

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 11:02 pm on Thu, Sep 5, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    9:19AM on Sunday, September 1st.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 10:06 pm on Thu, Sep 5, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Dockter:

    I know it is difficult for you to understand the difference between what you say and reality.

    First you accuse me of not understanding the content of Joe Guzzardi's column, and then you go off on a SIDE TOPIC of LITTER on Arizona properties.

    DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THE TOPIC OF THIS COLUMN IS THAT JOE GUZZARDI CLAIMS THAT CESAR CHAVEZ DID NOT SUPPORT ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION?

    If you don't, then I suggest you follow your own pronouncement of 9:19AM on Sunday, September 1.

    Have a great weekend, DA.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:32 am on Thu, Sep 5, 2013.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2850

    -And Ms Bobin wants to talk about litter in her neighborhood


    http://theerant.yuku.com/topic/38647#.UiiUrjjn-M8


    Arizona Rancher Sued by Illegals for Protecting His Property

    A Clip:

    This is an absolute outrage; the clear victim here is the property owner, who by the grace of God has managed to keep himself form taking considerably stronger action for over 10 years. I'm not sure I'd have his resolve. The people who cross his land are criminals, and should be treated as such.

    It's not because they are Mexicans; it's because they are breaking the law, devastating the ecosystem of the Sonoran Desert, and invading the private lives of US citizens, who shouldn't be forced to mount armed patrols to keep their homes and families safe from foreign interlopers.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:24 am on Thu, Sep 5, 2013.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2850

    [offtopic]

    Not only is the above post off topic, it minimizes the decimation perpetrated by Illegals on the U.S. side of the border with Mexico.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 3:51 pm on Wed, Sep 4, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1886

    Bobbin posted "Joe Guzzardi continues to invoke the sacred name of Cesar Chavez "
    SACRED? What church is she affiliated with?

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 7:35 am on Wed, Sep 4, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Kindseth wrote: "Me: That is a lot of crap left on what I think is a fairly quiet and well behaved street and neighborhood."

    Quiet and well behaved? Perhaps at 6AM while no one is one the street during your leisurely strolls.

    Try 2PM when all the soccer moms jockey for position to pick their kids up from school.

    Ever have a Slurpy thrown on your car? A gallon of milk? Milk shakes from McDonald's? Beer cans chucked onto your lawn?

    Well behaved, not so much.

     
  • John Kindseth posted at 8:27 pm on Mon, Sep 2, 2013.

    John Kindseth Posts: 245

    Joanne comments: "Actually, I could probably match that with the amount of garbage people in Lodi throw out the windows of their cars.

    This year alone I've picked up at least Two 30 gallon trash cans worth of fast food papers and cups from in front of my home and the surrounding 5 other homes on my part of the block."

    Me: That is a lot of crap left on what I think is a fairly quiet and well behaved street and neighborhood. That is disgusting. Get piks and report them. The most common street trash I see driving around are various disposable cups and empty cardboard beer packs.

    I think the trash comment was in regards to the California/mexico and texas/Mexican border where trash measures in the hundreds of tons.

    Regardless of how anyone views Joe G, Chavez was not a saint.

    Everyone have a nice week.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 3:37 pm on Mon, Sep 2, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Dockter, to say that I am immensely amused by your defense of Joe Guzzardi, a public figure who writes anti-immigration columns for publications all across the country, is quite the understatement.

    In fact, I'm wondering why YOU have such an obvious personal attraction to Joe.

    And you are quite mistaken - I DO NOT make personal attacks against Joe Guzzardi - I attack his faulty reporting and misinformation designed to get people LIKE YOU all riled up.

    Apparently, IT'S WORKING!!!

    Good for you, Joe. Keep up the good work so you can have intellectuals like Brian Dockter in your corner. Maybe you need the muscle he provides in the form of verbal abuse, profanities and vulgarities to bolster your arguments.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 11:20 am on Mon, Sep 2, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Dockter - no one is denying that illegals leave trash.

    Actually, I could probably match that with the amount of garbage people in Lodi throw out the windows of their cars.

    This year alone I've picked up at least Two 30 gallon trash cans worth of fast food papers and cups from in front of my home and the surrounding 5 other homes on my part of the block.

    Two twenty-something pieces of white trash were parked by the dog park and, looking right at me as the dogs and I exited our car, raked about 25 pieces of Taco Bell/McDonald's and Burger King wrappers and cups from their car onto the street. Then they smiled at me and drove off.

    I love taking license numbers and calling LPD.

    And YOU'RE worried about illegals?

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 11:05 am on Mon, Sep 2, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Docktor's answer to anyone he doesn't like (from 9:19AM on Sunday).

    A DIRECT QUOTE:

    "Otherwise, keep your f34king mouth shut."

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 8:57 am on Mon, Sep 2, 2013.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2850

    No comments as usual from Ms Bobin on the destruction of properties and public lands
    by Illegal Hispanics on the U.S side of the border.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 4:31 pm on Sun, Sep 1, 2013.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2850

    Ms. Bobin should be ashamed to inadvertantly drag those Hispanics through the mud because they dare to have the same mindset as Joe Guzzardi. In her world she is appalled those Hispanics, who know the significance of being here legally and know the burden Illegals have on the economy of U.S. would choose to speak out in opposition to these Illegals.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 9:41 am on Sun, Sep 1, 2013.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2850

    I often wonder if Ms Bobin is aware how many Hispanics in Lodi and the U.S. as a whole share the sentiments of Joe Guzzardi. My guess is her lame excuse would be: She's not aware of any.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 9:37 am on Sun, Sep 1, 2013.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2850

    http://www.desertinvasion.us/articles/articles.html

    Articles on the illegal alien invasion and the destruction of border National Parks, National Monuments, National Wildlife Refuges, and National Forests

    -As long as it doesn't happen on Ms Bobin's doorstep. She could care less.

    AND...It's people like her who have made it almost impossible to go after the Illegals who are responsible. BECAUSE...They can no longer be called "AN accurate description of the perpetrators" by law enforcement officials out of fear these officials will be labeled as racial profilers. Not that Ms. Bobin could care that law enforcement officials are hogtied because of political correctness.

     
  • robert maurer posted at 6:26 pm on Sat, Aug 31, 2013.

    mason day Posts: 448

    Mr. Chavez not only fought for better working conditions and fair pay for farmworkers, he also motivated them to vote and become politically active regarding farmworkers' rights. I'm pretty sure that he he also backed the illegal immigrant farmworker, since many in the San Joaquin valley were deported by the border patrol at or just before the end of harvest, after being called by the farmowner who sometimes did not pay them anything, yet benefitted from their labor. I can name several farmers who did this and witnessed a few BP raids in the Lodi area during the mid to late 70s. I was acquainted with several people whose parents did this, and most are highly regarded in society.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:28 am on Sat, Aug 31, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    The Guzzardi demagoguery is designed specifically for the audience here in Lodi that he perceives will believe every word that comes out of his mouth. He definitely has his devoted supporters here (and one in Arizona) who will go to the mat to defend him.

    He should be ashamed to drag Chavez's name through the mud, presupposing what Chavez would or would not support if he were alive today, in order to prop up his anti-immigration (LEGAL or ILLEGAL) position.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:19 am on Sat, Aug 31, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Joe Guzzardi continues to invoke the sacred name of Cesar Chavez to back his anti-immigration reform stance regarding illegal immigrants gaining "a pathway to citizenship."

    He tells half truths and outdated information in order to attempt to prove that one of the greatest icons of Mexican-American rights is of his same mindset.

    The main reason Chavez originally opposed illegal workers was because farmers and ranchers could exploit them to break strikes. If citizen farmworkers were on strike, farmers would hire illegals to replace them, pay them extremely low wages and force them to work in intolerable conditions.

    These workers couldn't complain, of course - they had no recourse to low wages and poor working conditions because of the illegal status.

    Here, from an ABC News article from May 1, 2013 - a greatly DIFFERENT version of Chavez's opinion on illegal immigration:

    "From when he co-founded United Farm Workers in 1962 with Dolores Huerta, Chavez took a hard line on illegal immigration. He thought employers would use undocumented workers as strike breakers, and that temporary workers would undermine the wages of Mexican American residents and citizens. He even reported some undocumented workers to immigration authorities, Gutiérrez writes."

    (David Gutierrez is a professor at UC San Diego who wrote the book, "Walls and Mirrors: Mexican Americans, Mexican Immigrants, and the Politics of Ethnicity."

    The article continues:

    "But through the early 1970s, it became clear that Chavez's position was out-of-step with other Mexican American rights groups."

    In a Letter to the Editor published in November 1974 in the San Francisco Examiner, Chavez wrote:

    "[T]he illegal aliens are doubly exploited, first because they are farm workers, and second because they are powerless to defend their own interests," he wrote. "But if there were no illegals being used to break our strikes, we could win those strikes overnight and then be in a position to improve the living and working conditions of all farm workers."

    "He promised that United Farm Workers would support legalization for the undocumented, "our brothers and sisters."

    "Chavez wasn't alone in changing his ideology, Gutiérrez writes. In fact, his shift from an immigration restrictionist to an "amnesty" supporter reflected the greater movement in Mexican American rights."

    "A Los Angeles union official at the time summed up this new mindset, saying that Mexican Americans who continued to support restrictive immigration policies "should realize that they would not be here if their fathers had not been illegal aliens," which Gutiérrez says was true for a large portion of people at that time."

     

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