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A deeper look at Senate’s border security legislation

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2 comments:

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:17 pm on Mon, Jul 8, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Joe Guzzardi wrote: "The House watched the public take the Senate to the woodshed over the unpopular immigration bill."

    According to a Pew poll:

    "The recent poll by Pew shows that Americans are fairly divided on when legalization should happen, which helps explain the partisan divide in Congress.

    You can see the split over the issue among Republican voters, too. Roughly two thirds of Tea Party Republicans think border security should come before legalization.

    Meanwhile, non-Tea Party Republicans are split on the idea, 47 percent to 47 percent."

    Hardly the majority of the "public taking the Senate to the woodshed," and more like a whole bunch of Republicans favoring legalization - even among TEA Partiers.

    The REAL reason Senate Republicans should be taken to the woodshed:

    "To gain conservative support, the "Gang of Eight" that drafted the bill made a deal with two Republican senators to add more security on the U.S.-Mexico border. The deal would double the size of Border Patrol, increasing its staff from 21,394 agents last year to 40,000."

    "The extra border agents alone would add $30 billion to the cost of the immigration bill. After that, the bill would mandate at least $12.5 billion to build a border fence and create a border security plan, with the possibility for more spending if certain benchmarks aren't met down the road."

    "We don't currently have a reliable way to measure unauthorized border crossings. But Pew research has shown that the flow of immigrants from Mexico fell to net zero in recent years. And the number of people caught at the border dropped to 40-year lows despite a dramatic increase in the number of Border Patrol agents.

    So there are strong indications that there's less illegal immigration now than a decade ago."

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:35 am on Sat, Jul 6, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    I find it interesting that, after decades of bitching and moaning about immigrants (legal or illegal), Joe Guzzardi has never offered one single solution to the problem of the existing 11 million or so illegals living in this country.

    Does he want them all deported? Under President Obama, 1.5 million illegals have already been deported, more than under any previous administration. But Joe Guzzardi has written multiple columns claiming that the president has done nothing, that he caters to illegals for votes, and that he has allowed criminal aliens to be released from prison.

    The current Senate bill does not allow for "amnesty" as Guzzardi claims - not amnesty a la Ronald Reagan's 1986 reform. Illegals will have to wait TEN YEARS in order to obtain a green card. Meanwhile, they will be required to pay all of their SS and Medicare taxes, but cannot use either of those services. They must wait an additional 3 years before they can apply for citizenship.

    As for "back-slapping," the loudest could be heard from the GOP who managed to have barrels of pork inserted into the bill for border security and demanded that certain manufacturers of helicopters and other military supplies be actually NAMED in the bill.

    Sound familiar? If you were paying attention at the beginning days of Afghanistan and Iraq, the Bush Administration was awarding "no-bid" contracts to military suppliers such as Halliburton for supplies, food service, security, etc. Much of that money somehow "disappeared" along the way and people like VP Dick Cheney and his cronies made a fortune.

    Those like Guzzardi who can only offer complaints and criticism are NOT part of the solution - they are part of the PROBLEM.

     

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