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As a Catholic, I ask: Can this pope deliver change?

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1 comment:

  • daniel hutchins posted at 1:15 am on Mon, Mar 18, 2013.

    daniel hutchins Posts: 1338

    Joe,
    The article examines who is Pope, and what is their race or ethnicity, but these are not the central issues.
    However, you came close, when you wrote, “Why, he wondered, would the Roman Catholic Church willingly give up the papacy, its only position of global authority?”
    Literally, the Papacy is both a world power, and the leader of a church.
    I question the legitimacy of their claim to a throne as an agent of Christ. I seem to recall that the book of Matthew was all about claiming supremacy over the kingdom of heaven, and I am not aware of Jesus having ever conducted himself in any battles for property rights or political power, in the world.
    As a result of the story I am going to tell you in 1208-1213, the effects of this being an international treaty between the Pope and the British Monarchy, are still in effect today, and these reach over to America.
    Today, the Pope has installed an “ambassador,” if not a spy, into an embassy within England. These are called the Archbishop of Canterbury and the Church of England.
    This resulted from an incident which began in 1208, when King John refused to accept the Archbishop of Canterbury, and Pope Innocent III would have none of this. [If you see where this is going, this is just 7 years prior to the Magna Carta of 1215, and this is the same King John who was forced to sign it.]

    In the diplomatic strategy which followed, including the Pope’s placement of England under interdiction from the Catholic church, excommunication of King John, and potential threat of his kidnapping by holy war, King John eventually surrendered in 1213 and a treaty was agreed upon between Monarchy and the Papacy. King John agreed to surrender all of the kingdom of England as the property of the Papacy, and England was to make annual payments on behalf of the British empire, including both England and Ireland, and this agreement was binding upon all of the heirs and assigns of King John, into perpetuity. This treaty is still in effect today.
    The treaty is more powerful than the Magna Carta, which is rendered irrelevant, and in fact, all property under the British empire is that of the Pope’s.
    America is subject of this treaty.

     

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