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Posted: Saturday, May 15, 2010 12:00 am | Updated: 11:15 am, Thu Jul 22, 2010.

As the California June 8 Republican primary nears, the state is on the verge of taking its first crucial step toward immigration sanity.

Anti-illegal immigration candidate and Insurance Commissioner Steve Poizner is closing in on the pro-amnesty eBay billionaire, Meg Whitman.

Now, with only weeks remaining, Poizner can point to Public Opinion Strategies internal polling — the same firm that polled for Scott Brown in Massachusetts — that shows Whitman's one-time lead of 48 percentage points has dropped to 10. Outside of her San Francisco base, Whitman's lead is a slim five points.

Poizner's ads paint Whitman as a RINO liberal who once supported Democratic Sen. Barbara Boxer. The message Poizner wants to get out is that he is the conservative in the race.

Whitman's campaign did its best to downplay the poll's findings.

"Whatever they show … it'll show a long road from whatever they've got him at to 50 percent and a victory in the general election," Whitman campaign strategist Mike Murphy told reporters. "We're now in a debate over whether Steve Poizner will lose huge, lose medium, or lose a little tighter," he said.

Impartial analysts have a different take. "Fortunately for Poizner, Whitman now seems somewhat embroiled in the Goldman Sachs scandal, which … seems to have given Poizner's campaign a burst of energy," says Jessica Levinson, political director for the Center for Governmental Studies. "Those who thought Poizner was out of the race are going to have to rethink their view of this now contentious gubernatorial primary fight."

Although Poizner started slowly, during his campaign's final days he has outmaneuvered Whitman.

Poizer's strategy from the outset was to save his best for last.

Holding back to unload his three key points as close to June as possible, Poizner began running ads in mid-March and escalated them this week by hitting on three crucial fronts: his support of Arizona's S.B. 1070, an endorsement from popular state conservative and former gubernatorial candidate Tom McClintock, and Whitman's connection to scandal-plagued Goldman Sachs.

McClintock's endorsement may or may not translate into Poizner votes. But Whitman's reluctance to go full bore on immigration and her board seat on Goldman Sachs, even though it was 10 years ago and lasted for only 15 months, will be hard to overcome.

Whitman is charged with having "preferential access" that allowed her to earn millions in profits from insider trading policies that, when investigated by the SEC, were immediately declared illegal.

Since every Californian has been adversely effected by illegal immigration and greedy Goldman bankers who robbed them of their home equity during the mortgage meltdown, Whitman is in a bad spot.

One thing that Poizner did effectively, unlike other failed Republican candidates in past elections, is come out early and hard against illegal immigration. Other Republican high office seekers like Tom Campbell, Matt Fong, Bill Jones or Dick Lovejoy mentioned the illegal alien crisis either to selective audiences or not at all.

Imagine the folly of running as a Republican in Democratic California while pretending that illegal immigration is not a major contributor to the state's massive budget deficit.

Whether Poizner's immigration gamble will pay off will soon be known. If he bests Whitman, which now seems possible, he'll go head to head against Jerry Brown, who is one of California's savviest, most experienced politicians.

Here's an irony: Brown's sister Kathleen, a gubernatorial candidate knocked out by Pete Wilson and Proposition 187 in the 1994 primary, is Goldman Sachs' senior advisor.

If Poizner wins the GOP nomination, he can keep his attack on Goldman alive against Jerry Brown.

But if Whitman gets the nod, Brown would lose that important Goldman talking point that has given Poizner so much leverage since his sister is also a prominent player at that firm.

Interesting days lie ahead.

Joe Guzzardi was a California gubernatorial candidate during the 2003 Recall Gray Davis special election. As he likes to tell it, he finished behind Arnold Schwarzenegger but ahead of 50 percent of the rest of the field. Contact him at guzzjoe@yahoo.com.

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42 comments:

  • posted at 4:02 pm on Fri, May 21, 2010.

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    Used to live in THE CITY. Irish contractor,red headed,blue eyed catholics slipped in hundreds of illegal aliens to work his construction crews.Cheap labor ,good value,true work ethic...Coolest neighborhood I've ever lived in. Hard working, honest taxpaying, but under the radar..Some are working on citizenship, others headed back to auld sod..Nobody passed laws about them or hollered or set up "patrols" on the San Mateo Co. line.. Wonder why?? We need to get our border under control and keep out the CRIMINALS..But hard working, honest folk with brown skin are NOT CRIMINALS..STOP hiring them..or set up a system where they can work without fear and abuse. Forcing them underground makes no sense at all. Speaking as one who worked with the Co.Gang Task Force and the Sheriff's Dept.,if you want to beat the bad guys you need to know who's who...and have the confidence and cooperation of the community.

     
  • posted at 12:39 pm on Fri, May 21, 2010.

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    Okay...let's say someone breaks into your house...eats your food, uses your electricity, takes any extra monies you have been saving for your family (IE...social programs, taxes..etc...) Then one day, you find this jerk in your house, enjoying what you have worked hard for, but never aided you in supplying (being illegal, they/he hasn't paid into the system that you do. So once you find this thief - being uninvited and taking from you collectively, that might make them thieves, although "I" might be mistaken.... WHAT would you do to this unsavory soul? Welcome him with open arms and say.."I forgive you...please stay with NO retribution or debt to me and my family"?Common sense has elluded the people of the United States.... I for one will not be so friggin kind to that person.Now, IF, that same soul was invited and paid for the usages, then he would be my neighbor, not a leech!!DO NOT bleed me and tell me I needed to bled for the good of all people !!!Use the front door and Immigrate Lawfully or go back home. An American citizen is something to be proud of.

     
  • posted at 10:33 am on Fri, May 21, 2010.

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    tiger wrote on May 21, 2010 3:08 PM:" um, T & C. Rape is not a race/legal issue, its a criminal and social issue. Your article is irrelevant to the subject of illegals in America."Here I am trying to make sense of what you posted tiger!Here you are "Cracking Jokes" when other bloggers are trying to post something relevant.Just to clarify things.... Joe Guzzardi wrote this LNS article about immigration, the aspects of both legal and illegal immigration.What I posted was related to what joe wrote.The Seattle article was NOT written by me silly tiger.I hate it when I have to explain things to other bloggers!

     
  • posted at 10:28 am on Fri, May 21, 2010.

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    tiger wrote on May 21, 2010 3:08 PM:" um, T & C. Just because the man who happened to be caught is illegal. Doesn't mean that all illegals somehow are criminals. How about the thousands of legal citizens who commit rape crimes? Should we deport them too?"I hate to burst your bubble tiger, but the U.S. Constitution doesn't allow for any legal Citizen to be deported! What were you thinking before you typed your comment.Please, for the sake of common sense, PLEASEEEEEEEEEE think before you type.Thank you!

     
  • posted at 10:08 am on Fri, May 21, 2010.

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    um, T & C. Just because the man who happened to be caught is illegal. Doesn't mean that all illegals somehow are criminals. How about the thousands of legal citizens who commit rape crimes? Should we deport them too? Rape is not a race/legal issue, its a criminal and social issue. Your article is irrelevant to the subject of illegals in America.

     
  • posted at 3:22 am on Fri, May 21, 2010.

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    The seattle article clearly states the rape suspect was illegally in America."After checking the man's fingerprints police learned he was wanted on an arrest warrant from U.S. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE). The police report says Madrigal is not a U.S. citizen, but did not indicate his native country."http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/theblotter/2011893887_rapist_caught_in_the_act_by_ed.html?prmid=obnetwork Obama... wake up and do the right thing and CLOSE OUR BORDERS!Doing the PC thing and buckling to immigration rallys DEMANDING Total Amnesty to millions of people who have no right to illegally remain in America, is NOT protecting America's citizens!

     
  • posted at 3:17 am on Fri, May 21, 2010.

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    Having spent years in Seattle I still read their paper on-line and read this interesting article today.http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/theblotter/2011893887_rapist_caught_in_the_act_by_ed.html?prmid=obnetwork

     
  • posted at 2:59 am on Fri, May 21, 2010.

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    deblaw wrote on May 20, 2010 8:15 AM:" Pressure.A couple questions/comments..Can you imagine the cost and services to round up just the "illegals" you speak of? The cost to round up these criminals, will balance out the tax dollars we spend to support them and their families.Where do you propose they be detained while waiting for court appearances?Why should they have access to our judicial system, they are not citizens, they have no rights in the US if they are here illegally.They should immediately sent home. ""Tell me anyone" What legal rights does an American have for illegally entering and remaining in Mexico?NONE!

     
  • posted at 3:15 am on Thu, May 20, 2010.

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    Pressure.A couple questions/comments..Can you imagine the cost and services to round up just the "illegals" you speak of? The cost to round up these criminals, will balance out the tax dollars we spend to support them and their families.Where do you propose they be detained while waiting for court appearances?Why should they have access to our judicial system, they are not citizens, they have no rights in the US if they are here illegally.They should immediately sent home.

     
  • posted at 2:58 am on Wed, May 19, 2010.

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    Weell, Now I have seen it all. NAIROBI, Kenya -- The mother of a Somali pirate who pleaded guilty to charges of hijacking a U.S.-flagged ship and kidnapping its captain is appealing to President Obama to pardon her son and grant him citizenship.Read more: http://www.sacbee.com/2010/05/19/2761877/mother-of-somali-pirate-appeals.html#ixzz0oO4i252GWell I guess since Obama's Aunt is now a citizen and she used the excuse of "Violence) in Kenya as her excuse (Not direct persecution of her by anyone) which could be used as a defense to ask for citizenship, this (Poor Somali pirate is doing the same). What the heck?Why not grant citizenship to all the (Pirates) and poof.... no more pirates by somali?Lets take a vote of hands for the poor pirate to become America's NEWEST U.S. Citizen.After all he only wants to make a better life for himself, right?

     
  • posted at 7:38 am on Tue, May 18, 2010.

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    To KenH:Always glad to help ya out:I hope one of these websites will satisfy your criteria:http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37192391/http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20005151-503544.htmlhttp://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/2010/05/18/2010-05-18_zeituni_onyango_president_obamas_kenyan_aunt_granted_political_asylum.htmlhttp://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/wjw-obama-aunt-granted-asylum,0,7272738.storyhttp://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obama-aunt-zeituni-onyango-granted-asylum-us/story?id=10669101President Obama would have been seen as a better president by telling the American people, "No One Is Above the Law, and the (Rule of Law) for illegals is that someone illegally in this country will be deported.But then I am not a democrat so of course I disagree with Obama ensuring his Aunt was made a full fledged U.S. Citizen... without having to go back to Kenya and stand in line with the rest of kenya's immigrants who would like to become a U.S. Citizen.In the end it will always be (Who ya know)!

     
  • posted at 4:04 am on Tue, May 18, 2010.

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    o.O I've dealt with that website before T&C. Any other news sites you can give, more specifically from perhaps the Associated Press or even CNN?

     
  • posted at 3:36 am on Tue, May 18, 2010.

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    KenH wrote on May 18, 2010 4:03 AM:Open your mind T&C, and focus on the facts of the individuals, and not the groups as a whole. Study up on the individuals, learn about them, thus making the appropriate vote during voting time. If more people did this, we wouldn't have idiots in office."I see that Obama's Aunt was finally granted Amnesty, as I predicted it would happen. I know it had nothing to do with her being Obama's Aunt. Does anyone notice that not a single sentence explained the basis for her Assylum.? How convenient! Hey its just how the government works!http://www.onenewsnow.com/AP/Search/US/Default.aspx?id=1016084

     
  • posted at 3:28 am on Tue, May 18, 2010.

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    To pre$$ur$on:I want you to know inspite of all our differences, we do have common ground now and then. If life is getting too stressful for you, and you just want to set down and share a cup of coffee at Scramblz cafe, I am all for it. I know that (Gob's place you under alot of stress, and just from a medical stand point, stress is not good for the heart. If you prefer to just discuss all of life's stresses here or in any blog, we can listen to you, honest. We are all bloggers, but not unkind or unsympathetic toward other bloggers pre$$ur$on!You are among friends here.Less stress I am positive will reflect better understanding of the things you are posting, hoping others will understand your point of view!I hope this post will bridge the bond of differences between you and me.

     
  • posted at 3:23 am on Tue, May 18, 2010.

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    pre$$ure$on wrote on May 17, 2010 2:31 PM:T&C says: But Obama will not change the Constitution. Demo's are counting on the Hispanic vote to KEEP THINGS JUST THE WAY ARE!MILLIONS of NEW Hispanic Americans voting politicians supporting for Social Programs Guarantees America to be brought to its knees financially without firing a shot. So now they're Hispanic, not Mexicans or "illegals"?"I swear pre$$ur$on there doesn't seem to be any hope for you. Time and again I have to EXPLAIN that which your mind just desperately can't grasp. Why do you make me EXPLAIN things to you? You are an adult! Geez!Let me say this as simply as I can:If an illegal immigrant does NOT possess Fake I-D, he or she cannot Vote in any Election. I hope that makes sense to you.If millions of hispanic illegals are granted Amnesty, they WILL be able to vote in any Election. Do you now understand the difference between the words "Illegals" and "New Hispanic Americans"?pre$$ur$on... level with me, your life seems full of stress lately, open up and talk to me my friend. Is it those (Gob's again")?

     
  • posted at 3:15 am on Tue, May 18, 2010.

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    preureon wrote on May 17, 2010 2:14 PM:" T & C, I know our goo by the laws Lodi farmers and businesses would never hire an "illegal" worker? Don't you?"pre$$ur#on.... Stop it right now, and get a grip! The above sentence makes ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE to anyone reading it! Is it too much for us to ask of you to THINK before you type so we have some VAGUE idea what you are rambling about?

     
  • posted at 3:12 am on Tue, May 18, 2010.

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    preureon wrote on May 17, 2010 2:14 PM:" T & C, Many of your "illegals" are here on green cards to work, some presently employed, others looking for another "illegal" job, and yet others waiting for their harvest seasons to start.You crack me up preureon, oops I mean pre$$ur$on, always with the jokes that no one thinks is funny but you! If someone from another country, Mexico for example, has a valid visa, green card, workers permit (Which allows them to be in America for a specified time period, (They are not here "Illegally"!Here I am having to explain something common sense to you again pre$$ur$on! Do you realize how embarassing that is to have to clarify things to you? Please THINK before you post!

     
  • posted at 3:07 am on Tue, May 18, 2010.

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    pre$$ure$on wrote on May 17, 2010 1:50 PM:" T & C, re your 7:17 blog. Can you imagine the cost and services to round up just the "illegals" you speak of? Where do you propose they be detained while waiting for court appearances, then trying to get the federal authorites to get these terrible criminals to further detain them while filing deportation proceedings? And then the federal authorrities having to try them to prove they're guilty or not? And then throw in all the Asian, Polish, Russian, Puerto Rican, Irish, Canadian, British, etc. and provide holding facilities and courtroom proceedings for them, not even counting your accused "illegals"? Innocent until proven guilty, right?Back to making JOKES Again U see pre$$ur$on!It is estimated by many at Government levels that there are approx. 12 million illegal hispanics hiding in America, hoping that the government will feel it is "Just too much of a hassel to arrest and deport them back to their homes in mexico.Evidently you agree.That is sad, because for every hispanic illegal granted amnesty, that is a slap in the face to every hispanic who earned his citizenship!

     
  • posted at 3:02 am on Tue, May 18, 2010.

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    pre$$ure$on wrote on May 17, 2010 1:50 PM:" T & C, re your 7:17 blog. why only have you in many of your past blogs considered those "illegals" basically Mexican?Every good question deserves to be answered pre$$ur$on, and I am happy to help clear up today's confusion in your mind.If a blog posted by me referenced Hispanic illegals, odds are the Article pre$$ur$on was discussing hispanic illegals.It embarasses me to have to remind you to read the title and topic of LNS articles before you go off and rant and rave. It would be less embarassing for us all.

     
  • posted at 2:59 am on Tue, May 18, 2010.

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    pre$$ure$on wrote on May 17, 2010 1:50 PM:" T & C, re your 7:17 blog. Your face must be pretty red from all those slaps by those "illegals" you seem to hate so much. Do you know many of those "illegals" in this area are documented farm workers, laborers and even some skilled craftsmen? Just because they aren't citizens doesn't make them "illegal", does it?"That was a (Trick Question wasn't it pre$$ur$on?)A poor attempt at comedy by you again.If someone is in America, on a valid visa type situation... who has a problem with that?Now one with an EXPIRED visa or one who has crawled across our border, now those would qualify as someone illegally remaining in America.Not to fear pre$$ur$on, as I predicted, Obama's Aunt would be granted Amesty and citizenship yesterday, and not be deported back to Keneya, and low and behold, T & C was right!http://www.onenewsnow.com/AP/Search/US/Default.aspx?id=1016084

     
  • posted at 2:54 am on Tue, May 18, 2010.

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    pre$$ure$on wrote on May 17, 2010 1:50 PM:" T & C, re your 7:17 blog. Your face must be pretty red from all those slaps by those "illegals" you seem to hate so much."No post made by me has ever used the word "Hate" regarding illegals pre$$ur$on! If you saw it some where, I invite you to post it now or "SHUT YOUR MOUTH"! No one likes people like you you toss around accusations without the guts to back it it up.... (Showing what you said was actually said by someone.)Many Americans do not have a hatered for hispanics. We simply want all immigrants to (USE THE FRONT DOOR, and apply and stand in line, and complete all the requirements the rest of the worlds immigrants must do.)

     
  • posted at 11:03 pm on Mon, May 17, 2010.

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    T&C I think its time you stopped drinking the proverbial Kool-Aid. I could say the same things about what you're saying about Democrats, but instead about Republicans, but I choose not to, since I know there are a few bad eggs on both sides of the political spectrum.Open your mind T&C, and focus on the facts of the individuals, and not the groups as a whole. Study up on the individuals, learn about them, thus making the appropriate vote during voting time. If more people did this, we wouldn't have idiots in office

     
  • posted at 2:56 pm on Mon, May 17, 2010.

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    Where is Leonard when you need him. Tell us Leonard.... what a great Governator Jerry Brown would be.

     
  • posted at 9:32 am on Mon, May 17, 2010.

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    Poisoner? LOLArizona is slowly beginning to become the laughing stock of the world, along with the tea party.T&C says: But Obama will not change the Constitution. Demo's are counting on the Hispanic vote to KEEP THINGS JUST THE WAY ARE!MILLIONS of NEW Hispanic Americans voting politicians supporting for Social Programs Guarantees America to be brought to its knees financially without firing a shot. So now they're Hispanic, not Mexicans or "illegals"? T&C, why do you assume that "we" all know the answer to that when speaking of the amnesty that will soon be granted to the corporate and agricultural communities that depend on the cheap labor pool they are about to receive? Since when are they all liberals? I'd say it benefits those obstructionist party of no conservatives more than the progressive liberals.

     
  • posted at 9:14 am on Mon, May 17, 2010.

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    T & C, since when is Theodore Roosevelt's opinion law? And what makes you insinuate that English is the "official" language of the United States of America? Many of your "illegals" are here on green cards to work, some presently employed, others looking for another "illegal" job, and yet others waiting for their harvest seasons to start. Just because many come here doesn't mean they have employment, but have to appear to hope they will be hired for those backbreaking, repetitive field, labor and farm work jobs. Who even knows if the farmer or grape grower they worked for last year hasn't been arrested for not paying his pump fees to the water district or even been shut down, fined and jailed for using those "illegal" workers themselves? I know our goo by the laws Lodi farmers and businesses would never hire an "illegal" worker? Don't you?

     
  • posted at 8:50 am on Mon, May 17, 2010.

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    T & C, re your 7:17 blog. Your face must be pretty red from all those slaps by those "illegals" you seem to hate so much. Do you know many of those "illegals" in this area are documented farm workers, laborers and even some skilled craftsmen? Just because they aren't citizens doesn't make them "illegal", does it? That's the way you come across to me. And why only have you in many of your past blogs considered those "illegals" basically Mexican? Can you imagine the cost and services to round up just the "illegals" you speak of? Where do you propose they be detained while waiting for court appearances, then trying to get the federal authorites to get these terrible criminals to further detain them while filing deportation proceedings? And then the federal authorrities having to try them to prove they're guilty or not? And then throw in all the Asian, Polish, Russian, Puerto Rican, Irish, Canadian, British, etc. and provide holding facilities and courtroom proceedings for them, not even counting your accused "illegals"? Innocent until proven guilty, right? Perhaps you should become a border patrolman instead of the whiny tattletale you seem to be now. Good Luck.

     
  • posted at 2:55 am on Mon, May 17, 2010.

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    peppier2 wrote on May 16, 2010 2:14 PM:"everyone is blaming Obama for the ills of this country. Hey, it will take a long time to clean up the mess."You are very right pepper2, thanks to Obama, it will take years to clean up the mess!

     
  • posted at 2:53 am on Mon, May 17, 2010.

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    The one CLEAR FACT about all candidates running for office.... is (THEY) will say EVERYTHING (We Voters) want to hear to get our vote, then (THEY) don't follow thru, blaming the Senate, house, Governor, or President for failure to pass legislation.All they want to do is get into office, and its downhill for (We the people). It will never change.VOTE EVERY DEMOCRAT & EVERY INCUMBANT OUT ON ELECTION DAY!If we vote EVERY INCUMBANT out of office, the new batch of demo's and repub's will (THINK VERY HARD about not ignoring the voters.)

     
  • posted at 1:44 am on Mon, May 17, 2010.

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    Looking at Whitman and Poizner (shudder)....Brown is looking better and better to me....might vote for him just because...

     
  • posted at 2:21 pm on Sun, May 16, 2010.

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    Both Poizner and Whitman will dance around this issue, pretending to oppose illegal immigration without actually hindering it in any way.I think Gov. Moonbeam will return to Sacramento (sadly), and even he might pretend to oppose illegal immigration to some degree. However, virtually nothing will be done at the state level, and, well, we know what will happen at the federal level - the same thing!

     
  • posted at 9:14 am on Sun, May 16, 2010.

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    9 comments by T & C is 9 too many. After 8 years of misery by the Republican administration, everyone is blaming Obama for the ills of this country. Hey, it will take a long time to clean up the mess.Do you think Sarah Palin will be able to lead this country? That is a laugh and you know it.

     
  • posted at 3:59 am on Sun, May 16, 2010.

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    T&C,Looks like Richard and Joanie boughtthe Golden Era back. Rick told me.FYI,I can't say I wouldn't vote for Brown.Savage and him share a lot of sentiments. On that note, he may not be a bad Gov. this second time around. I'm sure there's an interview on youtube of Brown on the Savage Nation.

     
  • posted at 2:51 am on Sun, May 16, 2010.

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    I CAN'T Believe what the Democrat running for California (Brown) proposes doing if you Demo's VOTE him into office!!!!"The only major Democratic candidate, Brown, has said he'll sweep in a new era of camaraderie if elected."The way I would do it is to spend a lot of time in Sacramento in the Capitol, talking to people and socializing," Brown said. "We'll have good social hours with the Republicans and Democrats. That's a very important part of how a Legislature works, and I'm going to bring that back."Read more: http://www.sacbee.com/2010/05/16/2753706/promises-often-exceed-performance.html#ixzz0o6VQCEqJI am sorry Mr. Brown, but California DOESN't NEED (More SOCIAL TIME). California (NEEDS ACTION AND RESULTS)!California has gone down hill for years because of special interest lobbyists, greasing the palms of politicians to have things their way.The choices now to get California are not pleasant, and no one can argue that statement.But spending more TIME SOCIALIZING for a CALIFORNIA governor is absolutely ABSURB!VOTE NO to every DEMOCRAT!

     
  • posted at 2:33 am on Sun, May 16, 2010.

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    The DEMOCRATS CONTROL the HOUSE, SENATE and Presidency. So as we look at the horrendous Health Care Bill forced upon us, the in-action on Immigration Control and Lack of Jobs, who is to blame.... The Democrats!Where are these imaginary 3 million jobs Obama promised to sway voters to make him President?Giving Hillary her Job gave her Hispanic voters to Obama, and they demand that Obama give them TOTAL AMNESTY (NOW!!!!!)Riddle me this:1 million illegal mothers who have children in America must pay say $2,500.00 fine! Or what, lol! Obama is gonna DEPORT THEM? We all know that will never happen. They are NOT working so tell me where they will get $2,500.00? Billions are being wired back to Mexico every year and NO DEMOCRAT CAN DENY THAT.They will ignore the fine and requirement to learn to read, write and speak English.They only want Citizenship at any cost.Will Obama attach a (Work for Citizenship clause to become a citizen)?We all know the answer to that. Obama can't even put Americans to work. To only put hispanics to work is (RACIST).

     
  • posted at 2:25 am on Sun, May 16, 2010.

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    max stanfield wrote on May 15, 2010 1:35 PM:" What we have here is a choice of bad [Meg], worse [Poisoner sic] and really dreadful, Jerry Brown--who set the table for the mess the state is in today. Whats your call Joe ? My absentee ballot is already here."Your post spoke the reality of what voters face max.Either way we are screwed. The best that can be hoped for is to VOTE EVERY DEMOCRAT OUT, and STOP the craizeness of handing everyone a Social program check. SOCIAL programs have never created jobs, have never filled an assembly line, have never shipped a freight truck of anything, and never put anything on shelves.CALIFORNIA needs Jobs!Vote every DEMOCRAT OUT.

     
  • posted at 2:20 am on Sun, May 16, 2010.

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    captaingort wrote on May 15, 2010 8:03 AM:" I agree with Teddy Roosevelt's quote the T&C posted. boot anybody who has police record and make all apply - and pass- the immigration test, etc. And No More "anchor Babies". Do the Arizona thing with Employer law. Seal the borders. So there...elect me. "I agree with you on stopping the Ancho Baby law. Those who come here and drop baby after baby to ensure they will NOT be deported, 90% DO NOT WORK but rake in all of the Social benefits! Giving nothing back to America is an ashamed way of being in and staying in America. At least those males who are illegally here, well, those not committing crimes do some kind of work.But Obama will not change the Constitution. Demo's are counting on the Hispanic vote to KEEP THINGS JUST THE WAY ARE!MILLIONS of NEW Hispanic Americans voting politicians supporting for Social Programs Guarantees America to be brought to its knees financially without firing a shot.America needs JOBS and Democrats are for Social Programs!Thats the difference. VOTE EVERY DEMOCRAT OUT!

     
  • posted at 2:14 am on Sun, May 16, 2010.

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    captaingort wrote on May 15, 2010 8:03 AM:" I agree with Teddy Roosevelt's quote the T&C posted. But I'm afraid that we are ALL going to have to show some flexibility on the "amnesty" thing. Our CONGRESS allowed this to go on for decades and now these people have put down roots. Sorry- can't kick them out now. So: boot anybody who has police record and make all apply - and pass- the immigration test, etc. And No More "anchor Babies". Do the Arizona thing with Employer law. Seal the borders.So there...elect me."Its hard to agree with your position "Captain, my Captain!" Why?The U.S. tried "Total Amnesty" in the 1980's and look where we are today! MILLIONS of illegals, who are aquating waiting for OBAMA to grant them (Total Amnesty)"Side-stepping" the same Immigration laws that all other nations immigrants must follow to be a U.S. Citizen, merely because they physically can sneak accross our border & HIDE with imputity.We all know there will be NO Fine and no requirement to learn to read, write or speak English. Oh by the way Hispanics are (Democrats) huge voting cow!

     
  • posted at 8:35 am on Sat, May 15, 2010.

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    What we have here is a choice of bad [Meg], worse [Poisoner sic] and really dreadful, Jerry Brown--who set the table for the mess the state is in today. Whats your call Joe ? My absentee ballot is already here.

     
  • posted at 3:03 am on Sat, May 15, 2010.

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    I agree with Teddy Roosevelt's quote the T&C posted. But I'm afraid that we are ALL going to have to show some flexibility on the "amnesty" thing. Our CONGRESS allowed this to go on for decades and now these people have put down roots. Sorry- can't kick them out now. So: boot anybody who has police record and make all apply - and pass- the immigration test, etc. And No More "anchor Babies". Do the Arizona thing with Employer law. Seal the borders.So there...elect me.

     
  • posted at 2:23 am on Sat, May 15, 2010.

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    Theodore Roosevelt on Immigrants and being an AMERICAN Citizen in 1907…"In the first place we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the man's becoming in very fact an American, and nothing but an American. There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag, and this excludes the red flag, which symbolizes all wars against liberty and civilization, just as much as it excludes any foreign flag of a nation to which we are hostile...We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."refusing to apply for citizenship is NOT coming here in good faith.

     
  • posted at 2:21 am on Sat, May 15, 2010.

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    The intent and principles of Immigration were based over 100 years ago by President Roosevelt.There is no reason to (Degrade and make those valuses less important.)Immigrants who come here in good faith (Using the (FRONT DOOR) should have a right to apply for citizenship.But just like every other country who DOES NOT guarantee citizenship to (EVERY APPLICANT) the same should apply to America.

     
  • posted at 2:17 am on Sat, May 15, 2010.

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    Amnesty is a "Slap in the face" to every immigrant who came to America thru the (Front Door), applied for citizenship, learned our laws and customs, language payed the fees, (IMPATIENTLY WAITED), but wited they did, to achieve U.S. Citizenship, something to be proud of.Not unlike thieves in the night, who sneaked into America, or let their Visa's (RUN OUT) and REFUSED to (Go Back Home) rolling the dice that sooner or later America, like in the (1980's) would once more grant Millions of Illegals Total Amnesty, (By-passing the need to even attempt to learn how to read, write, or speak English, pay fines, or learn anything about our laws & customs!The Liberal, led by Obama will in the end grant total Amnesty (Path to citizenship to millions who (FLAUNT to this very day) any need or desire to file for U.S. Citizenship.)And to think we arer called (Racists) when all we ask is that LAZY people who refuse to apply for citizenship, STAND in line with the rest of the world's immigrants.EVIDENTLY THAT IS TOO MUCH TO ASK!

     

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