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50 comments:

  • Andrew Liebich posted at 12:35 pm on Sun, Nov 18, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2922

    http://youtu.be/I79wUEqBdQc

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 8:08 am on Thu, Nov 8, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2922

    posted at 9:18 pm on Sun, Sep 30, 2012.

    Two words Mr. Heuer. Cognitive Dissonance.

    "Simply Google "voter fraud at ballot box" and READ." "You are living in denial."

    "Rep. Tom Feeney (Fmr. Speaker of The House in Florida) employed this man from Oviedo, FL to rig elections and flip them 51% to 49%".

    http://youtu.be/t4aKOhbbK9E

    "and remember this video when they tell you Obama won by 2%"
    [sleeping]

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 5:57 am on Thu, Nov 8, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1062


    “see everyone in Chicago jumping for joy and in tears”

    For Brian:

    Election 2012: The best photos

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/11/06/politics/gallery/election-best/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

    [beam]

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 5:25 pm on Wed, Nov 7, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2813

    Ms. Bobin,

    I suppose we can expect the love fest from you to be ramped up for the next 4 years. "Infatuated with the man" says it all. It is truly personal for you and has nothing to do with policy.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 4:46 pm on Wed, Nov 7, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2813

    Ms. Bobin,

    It's definately about policy. AND, the recession has affected just about everyone in some way and manner. It does become somewhat personal. Or are you going to retract your statements in the course of the last four years how you hold Bush accountable? Unlike you, I don't hold Obama or the feds accountable.

    And I see you still havedn't figured it out that taxing the rich to oblivion won't balance the budget. But you keep on dreaming it will like the rest of the liberals.

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 3:47 pm on Wed, Nov 7, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1062

    The Republican party is doomed

    Who needs a Kleenex tissue, a Prilosec or a cold beer??

    [lol]

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 3:23 pm on Wed, Nov 7, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1062

    But are you Flabbergasted, Brian???

    [wink]

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 3:21 pm on Wed, Nov 7, 2012.

    Walt Posts: 1062

    "It made me sick"

    That's cool. Enjoy!

    [beam]

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:13 am on Wed, Nov 7, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4485

    Sounds like sour grapes, Mr. Docktor.

    Higher taxes? I suppose you are talking about the ACA which, even if Willard Mitt Romney had been elected, would not have been overturned.

    I suppose we can expect the hate speech from you to be ramped up for the next 4 years. "Can't stand the man" says it all. It is truly personal for you and has nothing to do with policy.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 8:19 am on Wed, Nov 7, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2922

    same issues same answers... http://youtu.be/sZLqsRqKFyI

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:41 am on Wed, Nov 7, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2813

    Unfortunately, Obama is only interested in his legacy. He was groomed to do what he is doing in Chicagoland. He doesn't care what the outcome for others is as long as he gets his way. His dismal track record the last four years is well documented and ingrained in the psyche of Americans who can't stand the man.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:38 am on Wed, Nov 7, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2813

    It made me sick to see everyone in Chicago jumping for joy and in tears. Oddly enough, it looked like a propoganda film scene, with robots programmed to celebrate the occasion... not Americans who are looking to secure a better future for their families.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:36 am on Wed, Nov 7, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2813

    You have to give Obama credit for being honest. However, had George Bush promised higher taxes and more debt, he would not have gotten a second term. Just goes to show where over 59 million people's priorities are.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:33 am on Wed, Nov 7, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2813

    There you have it folks. Over 59 million people voted for higher taxes and more debt.
    I suppose lower taxes and a balanced budget just isn't their thing.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:40 pm on Tue, Nov 6, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2813

    Ms. Bobin wrote:

    OK, you need to make up your mind, Mr. Docktor.

    Weeks ago you spent days trying to counter my comment that "everyone" wants to secure the borders with your on and on comments about corporations that want illegals here.

    Now, the above comment claims that I want illegals here and/or to stay here.

    You are just plain ranting hysterically with no purpose.

    -Chuckle,

    I made up my mind long ago you don't know what you talking about. Yes, I have all too often become hysterical trying to figure you out. Frankly, other than you're entertaining, there is no purpose in my eyes to converse with you.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:25 pm on Tue, Nov 6, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2813

    Hmm,

    One of the topics here is the President, yet Ms. Bobin says I'm off topic talking about the rioting if Obama loses. I can see her now saying we had it coming not re-electing Obama. Obviously she does not care about all those tweets by people saying they will riot. I wonder if she would have the sentiments if it was Romney supporters doing the tweets?

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:16 am on Tue, Nov 6, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4485

    Mr. Liebich wrote: "When have I EVER endorsed Gary Johnson?

    CLUELESS!"

    Andrew - you claim both the Dem and Rep parties are indistinguisable. You have stated that you support Libertarianism. Ron Paul's not running. Who's the only Libertarian on the menu? Gary Johnson!

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:14 am on Tue, Nov 6, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4485

    Mr. Guzzardi cannot bear to lose his Lodi audience because most of it believes all of the nonsense he writes without question. That is why he continually needs to insert himself into the conversation in CA.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:12 am on Tue, Nov 6, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4485

    Andrew...have you noticed that you cannot make a single comment in this forum without using some form of derogatory language?

    Maybe if you schooled yourself in the English language, you would find more creative ways of expressing your opinions WITHOUT name-calling.

    I'd be will to bet that you would be first in line (after Mr. Docktor, of course) to scream and demand that speakers of foreign languages learn English.

    Those born here, such as yourself, need to learn the language first and try to communicate effectively without name-calling.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:08 am on Tue, Nov 6, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4485

    OK, you need to make up your mind, Mr. Docktor.

    Weeks ago you spent days trying to counter my comment that "everyone" wants to secure the borders with your on and on comments about corporations that want illegals here.

    Now, the above comment claims that I want illegals here and/or to stay here.

    You are just plain ranting hysterically with no purpose.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:06 am on Tue, Nov 6, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4485

    Had the feeling I made the comment? It was posted under my name...no "feeling needed."

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:05 am on Tue, Nov 6, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4485

    Off Topic, Mr. Docktor.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 9:17 pm on Mon, Nov 5, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2813

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/threats-to-riot-by-obama-supporters-reach-crescendo.html

    Threats to Riot by Obama Supporters Reach Crescendo

    Violent rhetoric being stoked by left-wing media figures

    Paul Joseph Watson
    Prison Planet.com
    November 5, 2012

    After weeks of threats by Obama supporters on Twitter to riot if Mitt Romney wins the presidential election, a modicum of media attention on the issue has done little to dampen the enthusiasm for mayhem, with the social network today being overwhelmed with more threats to riot.

    Indeed, a rough estimation of tweets suggests that about two dozen threats to riot if Obama loses are being published on Twitter every hour.

    The tweets below were all sent out within the same one hour time period this morning.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 4:33 pm on Mon, Nov 5, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2813

    Ms. Bobin,

    it has nothing to do with cowardness. The majority of us here already had a feeling it was you who made the statement. There's no need to add salt to wound. And, is there any time soon you will acknowledge or admit there are crokked illegals who own companies here?

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 4:28 pm on Mon, Nov 5, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2813

    I see Ms. Bobin is busy at work trying to justify why illegals should just stay illegal since in her eyes it's all a mirage U.S. (citizens) taxpayers pick up the tab for them.

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 1:20 pm on Mon, Nov 5, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2922

    Hey clueless, Illegal Immigrants may very well be paying a lot more taxes than some think but it doesn't change the fact that they are here Illegally!

    P.S. Shikha Dalmia frequenlty appears on Fox Business Network. [lol]

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 1:11 pm on Mon, Nov 5, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2922

    When have I EVER endorsed Gary Johnson? [sleeping]

    CLUELESS!

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:59 pm on Mon, Nov 5, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4485

    From May 2006 - http://reason.org/news/show/122411.html

    Of course, at least THREE people here will believe this is completely false information:

    "The fact that illegal immigrants pay taxes at all will come as news to many Americans. A stunning two-thirds of illegal immigrants pay Medicare, Social Security and personal income taxes. Yet, nativists like Congressman Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., have popularized the notion that illegal aliens are a colossal drain on the nation's hospitals, schools and welfare programs — consuming services that they don't pay for.

    In reality, the 1996 welfare reform bill disqualified illegal immigrants from nearly all means-tested government programs including food stamps, housing assistance, Medicaid and Medicare-funded hospitalization. The only services that illegals can still get are emergency medical care and K-12 education."


     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:56 pm on Mon, Nov 5, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4485

    Actually, I think Mr. Kinderman has gotten a thrill of his own from that comment since he has been repeating it for four years.

    Payroll taxes are self-serving. One gains the propect of Social Security benefits upon retirement and State Disability payments if disabled for a short time.

    Those who collect SS should be grateful to illegals for contributing to a system from which they will never gain a benefit.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:49 pm on Mon, Nov 5, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4485

    Yes, it is interesting. If your candidate gets into office, we will expect all illegals to immediately line up and self-deport.

    Oh, I forgot - your aren't voting for Willard Mitt Romney since you are a Libertarian. Gary Johnson - 2012!!! Go Gary!!

     
  • Andrew Liebich posted at 12:09 pm on Mon, Nov 5, 2012.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2922

    "Entering the United States illegally isn't a crime" has somehow morphed into "Illegals are here - we need to deal with that"

    Interesting...[lol]

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 11:40 am on Mon, Nov 5, 2012.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2315

    Mr. Bransom, please stop embarrassing yourself. When we speak of "taxes" we're talking about income tax withholding and Social Security tax withholding, not sales tax. Of course we all must pay at the register. But you already understood that, didn't you; or is simply being argumentative something that "sends a thrill up your leg?" (Chris Matthews, MSNBC)

     
  • Doug Chaney posted at 10:57 am on Mon, Nov 5, 2012.

    advocate Posts: 499

    Mr. Guzzardi, why would you even other with the senate race in California? It appears to me like you are trying to maintain your far left leanings while recently giving the appearance of leaning toward the teabaggers in Lodi. Or are you still voting in CA. too?

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 10:38 am on Mon, Nov 5, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4485

    When individuals such as Mr. Kinderman - who, by his own admission - survives off entitlements, and Mr. Docktor make such silly comments we can only shake our heads and wonder how they managed to become so cynical and selfish.

    Mr. Kinderman, especially, is part of the 47% that Willard Mitt Romney doesn't care about - but Mr. Kinderman has dutifully voted for him.

    I wonder what will happen when Willard cuts Social Security Disability, cuts funding for the VA hospitals and medical centers and cuts food stamps.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 10:30 am on Mon, Nov 5, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4485

    Mr. Kinderman comically wrote: "Someone had the audacity to post the following comment: "Many illegals have taxes deducted from their checks that are never submitted by crooked employers."

    "Oh those poor "illegals!" This is the problem with the left."

    Someone did not EVEN HAVE the audacity to cite who stated that. You are a coward, Mr. Kinderman, because you are frightened at the thought of actually naming the person you criticize. Or maybe you, as usual, feel too superior to do so?

    Illegals are here - we need to deal with that. Your comments are akin to saying, "Oh, that poor illegal was raped, murdered, tortured, sold into sexual slavery, but oh, too bad, they shouldn't have been here to begin with. Let's just throw them into the trash bin where they belong."

    And you call yourself a Christian. Your comments are nothing more than hypocritical.

    I really feel sorry for you.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 5:58 pm on Sun, Nov 4, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2813

    Jerry,

    My post at 4:51 shows how much of the tab taxpayers pick up for illegals. My point is:
    Liberals tend to believe one can never pay enough taxes. Please clarify with me you don't believe illegals should be exempt from this from your Liberal POV.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 5:42 pm on Sun, Nov 4, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2813

    Holy COW Jerry! We're speaking of income taxes, a good majority of taxes most people pay. Illegals can circumvent paying many of the taxes you speak of. Or can you assure us you've fact checked that illegals always pay these taxes? Do you know of some secret formula illegals impose on themselves holding themselves accountable for every tax they must pay? Please tell us the inside scoop.

     
  • Jerry Bransom posted at 5:26 pm on Sun, Nov 4, 2012.

    Jerry Bransom Posts: 363

    Holy COW Joanne! jerome and brian know something we do not - namely, how to buy groceries without paying taxes.How to buy gas without paying taxes, purchase electricity, clothing, homes, cars, stuff from Walmart... all the while not paying taxes! I need to know more about this! What secret formula do illegal aliens, jerome and brain know? They all have this knowledge in common!?!?! I just thought they were frugal! Silly me.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 5:04 pm on Sun, Nov 4, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2813

    I'm speaking of those crooked Illegals who have managed to own coompanies here
    that cater to illegals. Perhaps Ms. Bobin has some way to explain away how those taxes that are taken out of the paychecks of the illegals somehow find their way back into the pockets of the illegals. I wouldn't put it past her.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 4:59 pm on Sun, Nov 4, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2813

    Jerome,

    I'm skeptical Ms. Bobin would ever acknowledge or admit there are crooked Illegals.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 4:51 pm on Sun, Nov 4, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2813


    On the website I've pasted below, the facts are these:

    California Tax Payers pay $10.5 Billion for Illegal Immigrants in California. Illegal Immigrants pay approximately $1.5 billion in taxes, leaving $9 billion that the rest of Californians pay for Illegal Immigrants. The breakdown is as follows:

    Education for Illegal Immigrants: $ 7.7 Billion
    Health Care for Illegal Immigrants: $ 1.4 Billion
    Incarceration of Illegal Immigrants: $ 1.4 Billion

    Here's the Website so that you can check:

    http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServer?pagename=iic_immigrationissuecentersffec

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 12:38 pm on Sun, Nov 4, 2012.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2315

    End . . .

    Is this simple to do? It would be much easier if freedom-loving Americans would get off their butts and demand that the borders be locked down; if for no other reason than permitting anyone to hop the fence is a huge security problem for our country.

    But to lay ALL the blame on crooked employers while sympathizing with those poor, sweet "illegal" aliens is nothing less than hypocrisy run amuck.

    But what should we do about those millions already here? Now that's a tough question, isn't it? They say it would be impossible to round them all up and send them home. We're a nation that went to the Moon; we're a nation that won two World Wars; we're a nation that still answers the call from all other nations when they're in trouble. We used to be a nation that was proud to be the best – that it was okay to be superior; we used to be a nation that believed in the rule of law, that people should be held accountable. We're a nation that's sinking fast; we're a nation that is beginning to look more like France than the United States of America. Our “leaders” have no hesitation to apologize for things we have no business apologizing for.

    I still believe we're a nation that can do whatever we want to do - including rounding up millions of scofflaws and sending them home. But as long as we namby pamby voters electing equally dismal people to “lead” us, we WILL end up like every other European country.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 12:38 pm on Sun, Nov 4, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2813

    The Constitution: For Obama, Just Another Bump in the Road

    Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/11/the_constitution_for_obama_just_another_bump_in_the_road.html#ixzz2BHvyO6HC

    On June 15, 2012, having failed to convince Congress to pass the DREAM Act, the president enacted several of its provisions by executive order. He determined that not only would the administration refrain from deporting many illegal immigrants under the age of 31, but it would also allow them to apply for work permits, granting them legal authority to remain the in United States for two years. Simply put, there is no statutory or constitutional basis for such a policy.

     
  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 12:38 pm on Sun, Nov 4, 2012.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2315

    Someone had the audacity to post the following comment: "Many illegals have taxes deducted from their checks that are never submitted by crooked employers."

    Oh those poor "illegals!" This is the problem with the left. It's okay to break the law if those doing so will in any way help the liberal cause. Those horrible "crooked employers" must be Republicans! Vilify them and run them out of town on a rail; but hang on to those beloved illegal aliens; they have value to us.

    Here's the thing, this system set up by "illegal" aliens bolstered by "crooked" employers would be fixed if two things happened:

    First - secure the borders!! PLEASE secure the borders!!!
    Second - go after those companies who hire those who have already slipped through.

    Continued . . .

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 10:43 am on Sun, Nov 4, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2813

    Ms. Bobin,

    Of course we could not possibly be standing over each and every illegal to see if they are paying taxes How absurd. . And don't let the facts get in your way that most illegals don't pay income taxes. Because of this, they can send billions back to their homelands via Western Union.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:55 am on Sun, Nov 4, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4485

    Mr. Baxxter wrote: "Beats Barack Hussain Obama's immigration policy. Workers here by legal VISAS pay taxes and support themselves. Obama's "Illegal Immigrants" pay no income tax and collect all of the government freebies they can and, believe me, they know exactly how to extract funds from programs that hard working American taxpayers bankroll."

    I would laugh at this statement if it was not such a classic example of the beliefs that the average ill-informed person holds to be true - this is how people like Willard Mitt Romney and Joe Guzzardi prey on the fears of the average ill-informed person.

    How do you know they pay no income tax? Are you standing over every single one when they fill out their returns? If they fill out returns? Many illegals have taxes deducted from their checks that are never submitted by crooked employers. Obviously, they have no recourse.

    Since Willard Mitt Romney believes that anyone without health insurance can simply receive care at taxpayer expense in the emergency room - I guess he has that part of his immigration plan done. Now all he needs to do is convince people to "self-deport."

    Since you believe every twisted and misleading bit of information that Joe Guzzardi prints in his column, there is no hope for you to understand how immigration laws and the changes President Obama has made will work.

    Those like Mr. Baxxter just choose to live in their little misinformed bubbles and make accusations for which they have no substantiation.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 11:35 pm on Sat, Nov 3, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403

    Ms Bobin stated...Who would have guessed that Joe Guzzardi would be so ill-informed?

    Oh my, who would have guessed Ms. Bobin would see bigots around every Guzzardi corner? Why of course,everyone would guess that.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 2:15 pm on Sat, Nov 3, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1835

    Barack Hussein Owe-Blame-O, that is

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 2:15 pm on Sat, Nov 3, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1835

    Beats Barack Hussain Obama's immigration policy. Workers here by legal VISAS pay taxes and support themselves. Obama's "Illegal Immigrants" pay no income tax and collect all of the government freebies they can and, believe me, they know exactly how to extract funds from programs that hard working American taxpayers bankroll.
    '

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:17 am on Sat, Nov 3, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4485

    But Joe, Willard Mitt Romney's campaign platform includes raising the ceiling on H1B Visas for foreign workers to take American jobs from American workers that require Math and Science!!

    Just in Friday's LNS, two companies stated they had a problem hiring people with the right skills - if Willard is elected, I guess those jobs will be easily filled by a Chinese, Indian, or Pakistani worker with the needed skills - right here in Lodi!

    I guess you haven't heard about that, nor have you heard that the temporary waiver for illegal children of illegal immigrants is not unconstitutional either.

    Who would have guessed that Joe Guzzardi would be so ill-informed?

     

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