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Joe Guzzardi

Posted: Saturday, February 18, 2012 12:00 am | Updated: 7:04 am, Sat Feb 18, 2012.

The Obama administration has once again laid out the welcome mat for illegal aliens. Last week's White House announcement that aliens will have a "public advocate" is the latest in a long series of White House actions to comfort aliens. In June, the Department of Homeland Security began the unconstitutional process of pardoning 300,000 deportable aliens. Now, those who remain and have not yet been pardoned have an official, taxpayer-funded, go-to administration advocate.

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement said the advocate will "serve as a point of contact for individuals, including those in immigration proceedings (deportation), NGOs (non-government offices) and other community and advocacy groups, who have concerns, questions, recommendations or other issues they would like to raise."

Andrew Lorenz-Strait, identified as the first public advocate, will be a busy man. Almost every one of the nearly 10 million aliens living in the United States have "concerns, questions and recommendations ... they would like to raise." All center around what they perceive as their special circumstances that make them exempt from obeying U.S. law. They'll decry deportation's injustice and inhumanity.

Lorenz-Strait's symbolic significance cannot be overstated. To understand what it means for the highest level of government to give criminal aliens a voice, you need to see the big picture. Illegal entry is a misdemeanor crime punishable by six months imprisonment and carries the possibility of a fine. Re-entering after deportation, which a significant percentage of the alien population does, is a felony that can result in up to two years in jail and a $250,000 fine. These laws have been on the books for decades; for details, see 8 USC 1325(a).

Many open border advocates call illegal immigration a victimless crime. But that's hardly the definition you would use if your personal identification had been stolen or if you had lost out on a job.

Rep. Lamar Smith, chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, said that the advocacy appointee elevates illegal immigrants' concerns when the only appropriate action is deportation. Calling it "outrageous," Mr. Smith charged President Obama as "acting more like a lobbying firm for illegal immigration than as an advocate for the American people."

As you try to digest the concept of a White House alien advocacy representative, remember that everyone who comes to the U.S illegally does so on their own initiative. When aliens make their conscious decision to migrate, they are fully aware that if caught they could be deported. To cry "foul" after the fact is unfair to those who honor the legal immigration guidelines.

Obama's incessant pandering in a quest for the Hispanic vote is politics at its ugliest and undermines federal immigration laws' credibility. The guidelines for an honorable immigration system were outlined years ago by the late African American Texas Congresswoman Barbara Jordan in her statement to the House Judiciary Committee. Said Jordan: "People who should get in, get in; people who should not enter are kept out; and people who are deportable should be required to leave."

Joe Guzzardi retired from the Lodi Unified School District in 2008. Contact him at guzzjoe@yahoo.com.

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31 comments:

  • Patrick W Maple posted at 10:08 am on Tue, Feb 28, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    msb: Ever roof a house? My father did. Ever build a house? My father did. Did you ever have to pick grapes? My mother did. Ever pick cherries? My mother did. Ever pick tomatoes? My mother did. How about cotton? My mother did.
    You know why? My parents had pride...they did not believe in handouts and welfare. They believed in the work ethic of most people in this country at that time. When my father died he left an estate worth over $600K...not bad for a boy and girl from the Dust Bowl era.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 2:59 pm on Sat, Feb 25, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Ms Bobin stated..."every bush ,every tree... and under every rock in Lodi "( in reference to Ms Bobin comprehending that I have a comprehension problem that results in me misunderstanding what she posts)...

    Did I comprehend that correctly ms Bobin? Actually Ms Bobin, it is you that is missing the point completely. When someone like yourself makes wild exaggerated comical hysterical statement like...
    “I SEE BIGOTS AROUND EVERY CORNER IN LODI” like you have so often done, it begs the reader to respond in like kind. Therefore, when I say every bush, tree, etc... that is a continuation of the thought of how very ridiculous you are. That is not an exaggeration at all Ms Bobin, it is an extension of your obvious delusional state of mind. In other words, so to not confuse you in any way, there are not bigots around every corner in Lodi Ms Bobin... that is only figment of your fertile imagination.

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 10:16 am on Sat, Feb 25, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    Boy wasss I mda: Suing AND jeopardizing and TEHRE apostrophes!!!

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 10:11 am on Sat, Feb 25, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    Brian: You left out that msb is one of the cowards and do-nothings: Ms. Bobin,

    "I think you're disgusted with anyone who would use facts to back a point of view that is contrary to yours. If you have some facts to back up your point of view that is contrary to theirs then do it. It'll be a first".

    I challenged her on another thread to give some solutions...I got EXACTLY what I and probably most others predicted...NOTHING.

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 10:09 am on Sat, Feb 25, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    Joe: One of the things that you left out was the E-verify system. The system may work but ask yourself WHY did the Federal Gov put it on the employers to verify the legality of a person? Isn't it the job of the Feds to regulate this? Can I start issuing/checking drivers licenses too??

    When I verify that they are not a citizen and do not detain them (citizens arrest) or at least report them as such...aren't I in violation of the law?? Even if I do report them, who is going to do anything about it? The Feds are already sueing states for doing it...am I next? In talking with many of my fellow contractors we have found that the drug dealers are now forcing some of the illegal people to sell drugs and more...am I going to be responsible for that too???

    It seems to me that the lazy and cowardly SOBs that live in HollyDCwood are once again shirking their responsibility..."I can't do anything without jepordizing MY position"...or "Hey, let the peons deal with it". I have had enough...someone besides me get a set and do something...I am tired of doing it for you!!!

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:50 am on Sat, Feb 25, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2850

    Ms.Bobin,

    Perhaps you should write a letter indicating Obama is no way pandering to the Chicago elite for political gain.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:47 am on Sat, Feb 25, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2850

    Ms. Bobin,

    It's not a myth Obama is pandering to gain the Hispanic vote. Now, it may be a myth
    he is succeeding. I'll agree with you there. But Joe is not talking about if he is succeeding. He talking about him doing it. EVEN you can see the difference.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:37 am on Sat, Feb 25, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2850

    The state of AZ is being sued by the Feds because of 1070. A law that basicly enforces immigration laws. It's not much different than federal immigration laws.
    Now why would the Obama admin. want to sue a state for enforcing immigration laws? Hopefully Ms. Bobin can figure this one out.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:33 am on Sat, Feb 25, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2850

    Ms. Bobin,
    Here's a snippet from an article. I know your defintion of credible differs from mine.
    But at least try to read it. All politicians at some time in their career pander to groups for political gain. This a for sure way to get votes. Obama is no different. DUH!!!!!!!


    http://www.thecypresstimes.com/article/News/National_News/un1on_LEADER_OBAMA_PANDERING_TO_LATINO_GROUPS_FOR_POLITICAL_GAIN/55756


    UNION LEADER: OBAMA PANDERING TO LATINO GROUPS FOR POLITICAL GAIN
    Jim Kouri
    Published 02/01/2012 - 12:56 p.m. CST ABOUT THE AUTHOR

    Jim Kouri

    Website:
    http://www.examiner.com...

    Email:
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    As part of President Barack Obama's "new immigration and deportation strategy," all U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers must complete a training program that stresses removing high-risk offenders while at the same time forgo the deportation of illegal immigrants with clean records and strong ties to their communities, said the ICE officers' union officials on Friday.

    According to federal law enforcement officials, a majority of ICE’s commanding officers and prosecuting attorneys have completed the training seminar, but the National ICE Council, which represents agency’s more than 6,000 immigration officers, has not allowed its members to enroll in the new training program.

    The tough and outspoken president of the National ICE Council, Chris Crane, has opposed many of the president’s strategies, arguing that Obama’s policies force ICE officials to disregard the law. In separate statements, officials from the border patrol agents union have also criticized Obama's immigration and border security policies.

    On one occasion, while testifying before the House Judiciary subcommittee, Crane accused Obama of pandering to Latino groups for political gain.

    “Law enforcement and public safety have taken a back seat to attempts to satisfy immigrant advocacy groups,” Crane told the panel of congressmen.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:24 am on Sat, Feb 25, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2850

    Ms. Bobin,

    Many of Obama's policies pander to the Hispanic vote.
    Just La Raza alone is happy as a lark he is listening to their ridiculous grievances. Joe didn't mention La Raza, but that's not the point. Many, many organizations who are for open borders have members who will vote for Obama in the coming election.
    Open your eyes. The Hispanic lobby is huge.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 7:56 am on Fri, Feb 24, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Baumbach wrote:
    "Hummmmmm... The woman who swears there are bigots around every corner, every bush ,every tree... and under every rock in Lodi is somehow talking about what she thinks someone else believes...."

    I guess you still do not even read what you write. Go ahead and dig up all my references to the following:

    "every bush ,every tree... and under every rock in Lodi "

    That, as I stated, is YOUR exaggeration of my original statement.

    Perhaps if you check with LUSD Adult Education, they can let you know when READING COMPREHENSION classes are available. You need one.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 7:52 am on Fri, Feb 24, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Docktor: Perhaps I need to repost my original inquiry to Mr. Guzzardi, and if you actually read it, perhaps then you can understand the clarification I have asked for.

    Joe Guzzardi: Do you have any credible links to information on this new policy and "advocate?" The only ones I have been able to find are from far right wing sources with no substantiation and multiple references to Bill O"Reilly back in August 2011, calling for Obama's impeachment if he "pardons illegal aliens."

    Without references to credible sources, I would find that your column is misleading at best - inflamatory at worst. You seem to nebulously wax and wane between outright pardons and "advocacy," advocacy that seemingly is solely an information gathering process and a precursor to immigration reform. Which is it?

    The popular notion that advocating for illegal aliens will woo the Hispanic vote is largely mythical. Most data show that Hispanics who are legal residents or citizens are largely split on this topic with many taking the "I got mine, and to h..ll with the rest" attitude. The purposeful juxtaposition of resident and/or citizen Hispanics with illegal aliens is meant solely to create a visceral reaction with your like-minded public and to create the illusion that courting illegal aliens is an effective means of courting the Hispanic vote.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:42 am on Fri, Feb 24, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2850

    Ms. Bobin,

    I think you're disgusted with anyone who would use facts to back a point of view that is contrary to yours. If you have some facts to back up your point of view that is contrary to theirs then do it. It'll be a first.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:37 am on Fri, Feb 24, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2850

    Ms. Bobin wrote:

    Mr. Docktor - I do not "advocate open borders" at all. I only advocate honesty in the writings of Mr. Guzzardi - he should not represent one policy as something very different that what it actually is unless his only desire to to inflame.

    -Then please post something refuting what Joe has wriiten in this column. Not that he has never been incorrect. But he is not one to inflame. He has a good track record of doing his research before he writes in order to back up what he writes. You have never been able to refute what he writes. All you do is criticize without any facts to back it up.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 6:24 pm on Thu, Feb 23, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    and... as far as me ever saying that there are no bigots in Lodi.... never happened Ms Bobin... you are exhibit B that I would have never said that.

    I like anyone else come accross bigots occasionally in Lodi... you on the other hand, run in to them on a minute by minute basis... and sometimes more frequently than that.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 6:20 pm on Thu, Feb 23, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Ms Bobin stated...As for bigots, I think Mr. Baumbach has greatly (as is his wont) exaggerated my original statement

    Really Ms Bobin.. I would not want to exaggerate... Ill simply refresh your memory with your own words as it pertains to bigots..

    1. And then you ask why I continue to maintain that there is a bigot around every corner in Lodi. Bigot or idiot. It's really a toss-up... posted at 12:28 pm on Sat, Aug 6, 2011
    2. Joanne Bobin posted at 11:08 am on Tue, Oct 26, 2010. .... in Lodi for 33 years, I know that not only is there a bigot around every corner …
    3. posted at 12:41 pm on Wed, Jun 15, 2011... Just in case Mr. Baumbach is anywhere around this article, I'm mapping the location of each of the commentors below who are proving my claim of "a bigot around every corner in Lodi."
    Not only are they bigoted, they appear to be quite dense also...AND I think that Mr. Baxter has exceeded his limit on racist comments already today between this and two other articles!
    These are just 3 of many posts of yours Ms Bobin... your words, not mine

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 3:03 pm on Thu, Feb 23, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    I really don't know why Mr. Chapman thinks he knows anything about me or who I'm married to other than the comments I have posted myself.

    And no, I am not married to a Mexican immigrant, Mr. Chapman.

    Mr. Docktor - I do not "advocate open borders" at all. I only advocate honesty in the writings of Mr. Guzzardi - he should not represent one policy as something very different that what it actually is unless his only desire to to inflame.

     
  • Robert Chapman posted at 2:55 pm on Thu, Feb 23, 2012.

    Bob Chapman Posts: 997

    Joanne Bobin posted, "This is Mr. Baumbach's main plan of attack - to claim that all others have no credibility and are embarrassing themselves".
    Apparently she is in a snit because she thinks someone is copying her.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:06 am on Thu, Feb 23, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Baumbach wrote: "does it really matter what this woman thinks or imagines?... her credibility is so far gone that it has become rather sad to see her embarrass herself so frequently."

    This is Mr. Baumbach's main plan of attack - to claim that all others have no credibility and are embarrassing themselves.

    I think I have seen more comments in that regard about Mr. Baumbach than myself, except of course for the usual suspects on this thread.

    As for bigots, I think Mr. Baumbach has greatly (as is his wont) exaggerated my original statement. After writing a LTE 6 months ago about how there is no bigotry in Lodi, he was the first commenter on the article about the Lodi Rainbow Project on Saturday in which he made vile accusations and called them a hate group.

    The hypocrisy never ends!!

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 7:57 am on Thu, Feb 23, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    I'm awaiting Mr. Guzzardi's response to the particular points that I inquired about. Since there has been silence, I can only make the presumption that he has taken some "facts" and rearranged them in his usual house of mirrors manner to fit his POV.

    It is obvious that Mr. Docktor, Mr. Baumbach, and Mr. Maple agree with this column and take this information at face value rather than analyzing what is presented.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:36 am on Wed, Feb 22, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2850

    Joe wrote:

    Many open border advocates call illegal immigration a victimless crime. But that's hardly the definition you would use if your personal identification had been stolen or if you had lost out on a job.

    -I guarantee Ms. Bobin would cease to be an open border advocate if her identity was ever stolen by an illegal.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:32 am on Wed, Feb 22, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2850

    I always get a kick out of Ms. Bobin's feeble attempts to discredit Patrick's track record in the Galt School District.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:26 am on Wed, Feb 22, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2850

    Ms. Bobin:

    The White House website will give you all the information you need on Obama's policies. Or do you not consider that a credible link either?

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:21 am on Wed, Feb 22, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2850

    http://www.nationofimmigrators.com/congress-on-immigration/

    -Jeez, Ms. Bobin. In reference to Rep. Lamar Smith. Less than 10 links down on google I found this link. It has no reference to any conservative news sites. Frankly Ma'm, I don't think you did any research on what Joe wrote in his column. You just did your typical knee-j#rk reaction on Joe.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:15 am on Wed, Feb 22, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2850

    The fact the B.O. Admin. is suing the state of AZ for enforcing immigration laws the Feds won't is enough evidence for me Obama is pandering. 1070 was designed to enforce the laws and it isn't much different than the Federal immigration laws.

    And a chuckle to Ms. Bobin. I can find a list a mile long of credible sources to back up Joe's column. It's not our fault you looked at only the first few links on google. the first few links tend to be the most popular, not necessarily the most informative or accurate. We all know you don't like O'Reilly. Of course he's not always right. but he's a H#ll of a lot more fair and balanced than you or your ilk.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 3:05 am on Wed, Feb 22, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Ms Bobin stated...And still believes fervently that he somehow "voted" for Title IX and the ERA...( in reference to Pat)

    Hummmmmm... The woman who swears there are bigots around every corner, every bush ,every tree... and under every rock in Lodi is somehow talking about what she thinks someone else believes....

    hummmm.... does it really matter what this woman thinks or imagines?... her credibility is so far gone that it has become rather sad to see her embarrass herself so frequently.

    One might imagine Ms Bobin carries a baseball bat while going on a simple stroll in Lodi as she squints her eyes and grinds her teeth while looking for all the bigots. I pity the poor sole who says ”Boo” to her when on just a dangerous stroll.

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 5:08 pm on Tue, Feb 21, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    msbobby...Mr Guzzardi has (as have I ) more than once proven you to be an illogical and mostly hot air bag. I DO have a record to stand on (unlike you) as an advocate for children as well as a coach, father and grandfather. Blather as you may, you might want to take a course or two in blogging...maybe change your search engine (not the one in your head). Just so you know several board members have contacted me with questions about budget matters...as well as board members from other districts. They value the advice of a person who was able to balance the budgets for 14 consecutive years, build two high schools and raise test scores over 200 points at the HS level...95% graduation rate too. BTW...you are not a bad name-caller yourself.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 3:34 pm on Tue, Feb 21, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    And, none of your links panned out, Mr. Maple. You need to take a course in "cut and paste" if you want to pass on valid information.

    I have already perused what I believe are the links you were trying to pass on, and, since you seem to have comprehension issues, none of these links PROVE what Mr. Guzzardi has stated in his column, only that an "advocate" has been appointed to be a sounding board for questions that illegals may have. None of these state what Mr. Guzzardi has stated in his column, i.e., that "300,000" illegals are in the pipeline to be pardoned.

    See what we have to "put up with out here?" (In case you didn't get that rhetorical question - it is the inability to comprehend what information was actually requested).

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 3:21 pm on Tue, Feb 21, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Maple, who maintains he deranged "right" of turning individuals' names into something HE thinks is "funny" wrote: "Is that enough msbobby??"

    and

    Split? What split... 80-20 or 70-30...msb...are YOU legal? Hmmmm

    This from an individual who has previously served on one of the Galt school boards, was a coach (parents beware - if you wonder where your kids got some of their crazy ideas....) and was recently rejected to serve on the elementary board again, in part due to his "controversial" background and comments in this forum.

    It is obvious that Mr. Maple now believes he has nothing more to lose since he continues to irreparably sully his already shaky reputation.

    And still believes fervently that he somehow "voted" for Title IX and the ERA.

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 11:53 am on Tue, Feb 21, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    Joe: Do you see what we have to put up with out here???

    DHS appoints public advocate for illegal immigrants | Washington Times...
    FrontPage Magazine‎ -
    www.huffingtonpost.com/.../immigration-dhs-public-advoc
    news.investors.com/.../illegal-aliens-get-taxpayer-funded-advocate.ht...
    communities.washingtontimes.com/.../dhs-appoints-public-advocate-i
    The Associated Press: DHS adding public advocate for immigration

    Is that enough msbobby??

    Split? What split... 80-20 or 70-30...msb...are YOU legal? Hmmmm

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 11:32 am on Sat, Feb 18, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Joe Guzzardi: Do you have any credible links to information on this new policy and "advocate?" The only ones I have been able to find are from far right wing sources with no substantiation and multiple references to Bill O"Reilly back in August 2011, calling for Obama's impeachment if he "pardons illegal aliens."

    Without references to credible sources, I would find that your column is misleading at best - inflamatory at worst. You seem to nebulously wax and wane between outright pardons and "advocacy," advocacy that seemingly is solely an information gathering process and a precursor to immigration reform. Which is it?

    The popular notion that advocating for illegal aliens will woo the Hispanic vote is largely mythical. Most data show that Hispanics who are legal residents or citizens are largely split on this topic with many taking the "I got mine, and to h..ll with the rest" attitude. The purposeful juxtaposition of resident and/or citizen Hispanics with illegal aliens is meant solely to create a visceral reaction with your like-minded public and to create the illusion that courting illegal aliens is an effective means of courting the Hispanic vote.

    Just an FYI - an NGO is a Non-Governmental Organization (not office) such as various local and international organizations that advocate for the environment, charitible purposes, etc.

     

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