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• Jerome Kinderman posted at 3:00 pm on Sun, Dec 2, 2012.

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  Reagan is beloved because he was a great leader. Even those on the other side of the aisle would not deny that.

  Our current CINC has no leadership qualities (that would be zero, zip, nada - none) - this is important. I will admit though that Barack Hussein Obama is one of the most successful "pushers" we've ever had in the Oval Office. Somehow that doesn't make me feel too proud or safe.

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• Jerome Kinderman posted at 12:02 pm on Sun, Dec 2, 2012.

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  Neither the president nor his attorney general were aware of Fast and Furious?

  Well so much for competence or at the very least taking responsibility for what goes on under his watch. I suppose “President” Obama has yet to realize that the buck should stop with him. He's been likened to Jesus, FDR, Gandhi, JFK and a host of other remarkable people; and he keeps blaming his predecessor for the tight spots he keeps finds himself in - but he can't even adopt a simple idea set forth by Truman?

  Oh, yeah, that’s some “leader” we have in Barack Hussein Obama! Excuses, excuses, excuses.

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• Darrell Baumbach posted at 8:37 pm on Sat, Dec 1, 2012.

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  Kevin.. I have to admit, I never skip something you post. No matter I agree or disagree, I always appreciate your style and approach. Thank you!

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• Darrell Baumbach posted at 4:38 pm on Sat, Dec 1, 2012.

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  Yes, I agree that liberalism needs to be eradicated...and I do not fear it... I welcome it.

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• Kevin Paglia posted at 4:31 pm on Sat, Dec 1, 2012.

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  I did not realize Bush was president in 2009, that was when Fast and Furious started.

  http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-31727_162-57461204-10391695/a-primer-on-the-fast-and-furious-scandal/

  "I'm not saying Reagan headed up the Iran-Contra deal - I'm saying he was not made aware of it until later, after they woke him up from his years-long nap."

  By using your same logic was Obama sleeping when HIS people were selling guns to drug trafficers? The program lasted for about 2 years, that is a long nap.

  And please, if you are going to go after Reagan, PLEASE, PLEASE include this: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/08/03/opinion/reagan-vs-patco-the-strike-that-busted-unions.html?_r=0

  And THEN they named an airport after him.

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• Joanne Bobin posted at 3:55 pm on Sat, Dec 1, 2012.

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  Yes, I agree the Republican Party has some really serious issues. If they are not resolved, I fear it will be the end for them.

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• Darrell Baumbach posted at 3:20 pm on Sat, Dec 1, 2012.

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  This country can NOT survive with this level of hatred being taught by our leadership, absorbed by their followers and spewed on a daily basis towards neighbors

  Excellent post Kevin...I do not exxpect the nation to survive as is. I do not think it possible. I do not see this as hate though. I see it more as a fight for freedom. I SEE THE LEFT AS ANTI FREEDOM.

  I see this based on the loss of freedoms through Federal regulations and mandates culminating in Obamacare.

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• Joanne Bobin posted at 2:25 pm on Sat, Dec 1, 2012.

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  FYI - Mr. Paglia - President Obama was not in on the "Fast and Furious" debacle - neither was AG Holder made aware of the program until things turned south.

  AND it was a program that began during the Bush years - it seems that it was a plan that border agents, on their own, decided to "experiment" with both under Bush and Obama, but now everyone wants to put it smack dab on Obama just to try to make something stick.

  I'm not saying Reagan headed up the Iran-Contra deal - I'm saying he was not made aware of it until later, after they woke him up from his years-long nap.

  People call Reagan "one of our most beloved presidents" mostly due to his folksy ways, because he used to be a movie star, and maybe because he was fortunate enough to be in the White House when the Soviet Union fell, which it was doomed to do anyway. Heck, he couldn't even get his wife to "play nice" with the Soviet first lady - just for appearance sake. Not to mention his own kids had strained relationships with him.

  "Beloved" is a myth that has been built from marshmallow fluff or "Jelly Bellys" - not reality.

  And the "hatred," as you call it, is nothing new. No matter how many times you read comments from two prominent posters in this forum that the current president is the most divisive EVER - please. Those people have no sense of history and/or their memories are VERY short.

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• Kevin Paglia posted at 12:29 pm on Sat, Dec 1, 2012.

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  "let his administration run amok by sending arms to Iran in violation of our own embargo"

  In oppose to our current President who let Drug cartels buy guns from us.

  And how about those Contras, strange how Joanne left out that the Democratic President Carter STARTED the US involvement. http://wais.stanford.edu/Politics/politics_presidentreagan.htm

  The truth is that with EVERY President things were done right and things were done wrong. It is just that MOST are blinded by the hate our political leaders teach to see this. Our leaders now teach that their side does only right and the other side does only wrong. I said it on the other post and I will say it here. This country can NOT survive with this level of hatred being taught by our leadership, absorbed by their followers and spewed on a daily basis towards neighbors.

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• Joanne Bobin posted at 9:02 am on Sat, Dec 1, 2012.

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  If you consider a president who slept through his entire 8 years in office, already showing signs of Alzheimer's, and let his administration run amok by sending arms to Iran in violation of our own embargo, and funding the murderous Contras in Nicaragua, also a violation of our laws "doing well," then I guess Mr. Kinderman is correct.

  Reagan's legacy is unjustifiably amplified and in juxtaposition with reality.

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• Jerome Kinderman posted at 1:53 am on Sat, Dec 1, 2012.

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  "When Raft turned Wallis down, the producer then turned to a star who had a good-guy image, Ronald Reagan. In the end, Bogart accepted the Blaine role and went on to become one of Hollywood's most enduring superstars."

  And Ronald Reagan went on to become a beloved President of the United States. I think both did very well.

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