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Updating misguided immigration reform efforts

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  • Simon Birch posted at 1:24 pm on Tue, Jan 29, 2013.

    Simon Birch - Online Manager Posts: 170 Staff

    Everyone: I discussed this with Brian on the phone. There was no intent to deceive or break any rules. Any future comments will be under his usual name.

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:52 pm on Tue, Jan 29, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    I don't know why "Thomas Docktor" is suddenly appearing in this forum.

    Weren't you banned a while back, Brian?

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:38 pm on Mon, Jan 28, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    By the way, Mr. Gorak, if your buddy Joe hasn't told you, Lodi is surrounded by ranches and farms and I haven't seen a single Anglo face at one of them - and ranchers are crying for workers to harvest their crops.

    Whatever happened to the days when the Unemployment office sent you out on ANY job and you either had to take it or forfeit your unemployment?

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:35 pm on Mon, Jan 28, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Dave Gorak wrote: "We're still awaiting your concern about your fellow unemployed citizens who are being forced by their own government to compete with illegals in a dismal jobs market."

    What I am concerned about is the lack of enforcement of employer penalties for HIRING illegals in the first place.

    And why is the Republican party in favor of increasing the ceiling on H1B visas? Simple - Republicans = Corporations who want to hire "professionals" at 1/2 the cost of an American with the same skills.

    YOU are not concerned about your fellow citizens. YOU and your fellow xenophobes are more concerned about having to brush elbows out in public with those durn furiners.

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:27 pm on Mon, Jan 28, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Very interesting article considering Joe Guzzardi's praise back in August for players Fernando Valenzuela (born in Mexico) and Joe DiMaggio (parents born in Italy).

    And ironic because "Gorak" and "Guzzardi" don't sound very "American" to me.

    Classic cases of the "I got mine" syndrome.

  • Jeff Tillett posted at 11:36 am on Mon, Jan 28, 2013.

    Jeff Tillett Posts: 558


    Endorsers of Joe Guzzardi for Governor of California
    Dave Gorak, Illinois:

    Joe Guzzardi's thorough understanding of the immigration issue makes him the only candidate capable of speaking intelligently about what needs to be done to resolve California's fiscal problems. His message condemning this nation's unfunded federal mandate for forced population growth must be allowed to be heard by all Californians who, for too long, have been the victims of a media-induced coma that has prevented them from learning all the facts.

    "the google" is replete with their pairings, but this might be my favorite xenophobic rant:

  • Dave Gorak posted at 1:57 pm on Sun, Jan 27, 2013.

    Dave Gorak Posts: 3

    We're still awaiting your concern about your fellow unemployed citizens who are being forced by their own government to compete with illegals in a dismal jobs market. Unable to spare a little compassion for the former? The next time you preach about "skewed" information and the need for the "truth," please don't forget to include the mainstream media's coverage of the issue in your list of those who each day churn out "misleading information."[yawn]

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 11:06 am on Sun, Jan 27, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Thanks for your assessment of what YOU think I think, Mr. Gorak.

    Google tells me that you are a professional anti-immigration advocate and no doubt a great friend of Joe Guzzardi. It is so nice that he has friends like you to come to his rescue whenever he presents misleading information.

    I am well aware that the USCIS is now under the jurisdiction of the DHS, so you can rescind your "memo." The fact that the INS now has a new name UNDER DHS is irrelevant since the audience Guzzardi plays to doesn't know any better anyway.

    Joe Guzzardi specializes in ginning up the immigration issue through misleading information - specifically directed at his supporters in the Lodi area who don't know the real issues, but just simply hate brown people.

    That is my complaint. He is ANTI-IMMIGRATION (legal or illegal), but there are many in this area who would swear on a Bible that he is ONLY anti-ILLEGAL immigration. Believe me, I've heard from them in this forum.

    That is my problem with Guzzardi. Just tell the truth. Not his skewed version of it.

  • Dave Gorak posted at 7:32 am on Sun, Jan 27, 2013.

    Dave Gorak Posts: 3

    Memo to Ms. Bobin: The Immigration and Naturalization Service ceased to exist March 1, 2003, when it became part of the Department of Homeland Security. But more to the point: This really isn't about citizenship per se; Mr. Guzzardi's concerns are directed at the idiocy of those "Americans" who today think that the way to end illegal immigration is to legalize those here illegally and further reward them with citizenship in a country whose laws and sovereignty they've disrespected since Day One. He, like the rest of us who seek an immigration policy that does the most good for largest number of people (not just illegal aliens and their greedy employers), wonder daily why between all the sobbing and handwringing from illegal advocates is there never any acknowledgement of the pain and suffering that illegal immigrants inflict on American workers. Ms. Bobin apparently supports a federal government that is permitting 7 million illegal aliens to keep their payroll jobs in the construction, manufacturing, transportation and service industries while 20 million of her fellow citizens are unable to find full-time work. The majority of these jobs, by the way, are already being done by Americans, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, so they hardly can be described as being jobs our citizens "won't do." The only conclusion that I am able to draw from Ms. Bobin's remarks is that she is decidedly anti-American worker and shares with her illegal alien friends the same disrespect for the rule of law.[sad]

  • John Kindseth posted at 4:22 pm on Sat, Jan 26, 2013.

    John Kindseth Posts: 246

    Joe: Your understanding of the immigration problem over all these many years has always amazed me. Best wishes.

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 3:34 pm on Sat, Jan 26, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    This column should be retitled, "Misguided Update to Immigration Reform Efforts."

    Joe Guzzardi decries the use of "path to citizenship" as clever marketing research that will make "amnesty" more palatable to the average American citizen.

    Surprise, - the Dept. of Immigration and Naturalization has been using that terminology on its website for a very long time in order to guide legal immigrants desiring to become citizens through the various steps.

    More disinformation coming from a familiar source.

    And more noticeably - the "blurring" of the lines between the use of the word "immigrant" as opposed to "illegal immigrant" in the attempt to make it sound like illegals are sucking up free money.

    Joe Guzzardi is simply ANTI-ANY-IMMIGRANT. Period.


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