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Posted: Monday, June 7, 2010 12:00 am | Updated: 2:57 pm, Fri Jul 9, 2010.

What do the cities of El Paso, St. Paul, Los Angeles, Hartford, San Francisco, and Columbus all have in common?

Well, they are among a fairly large number of cities nationwide that have decided to boycott, in one way or another, the state of Arizona over its soon to be implemented anti-illegal immigration law.

That law, SB 1070, gives Arizona authorities greater discretion to check the immigration status of those who are pulled over for traffic infractions or otherwise stopped for probable cause.

I personally applaud the Arizona legislature for having the guts to ask the question, "What part of the word 'illegal' in 'illegal immigrant' do people not understand?" I mean, is it such an imposition to ask that people carry a valid form of identification?

I honestly cannot remember the last time I left my house for more than 5 minutes without my wallet and driver's license.

And why, for the sake of Pete, would cities half way across the country give a rat's rear end about the state of Arizona basically enforcing federal law that has been on the books for years?

While I'm not totally certain of the financial health of cities like Hartford and Columbus, I do know that Los Angeles is expecting a budget shortfall of around $212 million this year and that number is expected to more than double in 2011. San Francisco faces a budget shortfall of over $500 million. This then raises the possibility that the entire boycott charade is more about diverting attention away from L.A.'s and S.F.'s dire fiscal crises.

It's like L.A. and many of the other boycotters are saying, "Well, maybe we don't know how to balance a checkbook and can't say no to any feel-good cause, but at least we don't discriminate!" If you ask me, I'd say that it would probably serve cities like L.A. and San Francisco to be much more discriminating in how they spend their tax dollars and decide which laws to enforce and which to not enforce. San Francisco has actually declared itself a "sanctuary city," meaning that illegal immigrants will not be detained or prosecuted in any way.

I mean, with so many other real problems right under the noses of the city councils in Hartford, El Paso and the like, why even bother to get involved in Arizona politics? Any financial losses that Arizona may incur due to lost convention dollars and such is virtually guaranteed to disproportionately effect the very portion of the population that the L.A. types are supposedly trying to "help."

The contracts that these cities have now with Arizona and Arizona-based companies were, one would assume, negotiated in order to provide the boycotting cities with the greatest financial value for every dollar spent. Therefore, it should be considered irresponsible for these same cities to take their dollars elsewhere and impose a greater burden onto taxpayers.

And if ever there was a city, state, county or other municipality deserving of a boycott in order to encourage them to change their ways, I'd have to put San Francisco on top of that list with L.A. running a close second. In the mean time, get those plans to visit the Grand Canyon out and put into motion!

J. Kurt Roberts can be reached at jkurtroberts@att.net.

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27 comments:

  • posted at 6:33 pm on Sat, Jun 12, 2010.

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    DC wrote on Jun 12, 2010 12:42 PM:" Reports are that all the illegals in Ariz. are leaving in droves. Guess where they are headed? You guessed it,L.A., S.F., and a number of other sanctuary cities. Gavin and his crew will get just what they deserve. Oh thats right Gavin is running for State office along with his pal from Oakland Jerry Brown. God help us should that disaster take place ! "I can hear the sniffle of the left as the TEA PARTY GROWS! They have awoken the sleeping giant.

     
  • posted at 6:30 pm on Sat, Jun 12, 2010.

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    If the law is more restrictive on local law enforcement, than the mirrored fed law, it is constitutional!T&C have you noticed that the libs never bring up the fact that it was the Dems that fought their hardest to keep former slaves from getting their civil rights from the Civil War Acts, and it was the Republicans that got them passed?That Fredrick Douglass was a Republican and researched the U.S. Constitution saying it was NOT a pro-slavery document, and arguing about it with William Lloyd Garrison, who said it was Pro-slavery. Darn those reformers!Oh the revisionist history in schools these days.

     
  • posted at 7:52 am on Sat, Jun 12, 2010.

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    Also by Obamanation ignoring the border and the illegal immigration problem, he has given all of us tax paying , law abiding citizens the right to pick and choose which laws we want to abide by ! Kinda sound like I'm mad? that's right I am. Please when do we get back to common sense?

     
  • posted at 7:42 am on Sat, Jun 12, 2010.

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    Reports are that all the illegals in Ariz. are leaving in droves. Guess where they are headed? You guessed it,L.A., S.F., and a number of other sanctuary cities. Gavin and his crew will get just what they deserve. Oh thats right Gavin is running for State office along with his pal from Oakland Jerry Brown. God help us should that disaster take place !

     
  • posted at 6:09 am on Fri, Jun 11, 2010.

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    Election year, how crazy is it to continue to subsidize others to the point of bankrupting the country. Be it illegal aliens (god forbid I say the word "illegal") or any other group. Would you be happy to pay twice as much as you pay now in state and federal taxes, more sales tax, new VAT tax, etc etc etc. Its a moral question, not a political one. Both parties, Dem & Rep have been spending money like drunken sailors. Look whats going on over in Europe. Greece is just the tip of the iceberg. Spain, France Italy are not far behind. And yes, I am griping on my computer. I feel better now.

     
  • posted at 3:36 am on Fri, Jun 11, 2010.

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    All you good Liberals out there should be ackowledged for contributing to the decline in the Caucasian race. Can't help but wonder what other thing they will come up that is counter-productive.

     
  • posted at 3:19 am on Fri, Jun 11, 2010.

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    Gibson: "Make more babies" because in "[t]wenty-five years ... the majority of the pohttp://mediamatters.org/research/200605120006pulation is Hispanic"Now, in this country, European ancestry people, white people, are having kids at the rate that does sustain the population. It grows a bit. That compares to Europe where the birth rate is in the negative zone. They are not having enough babies to sustain their population. Consequently, they are inviting in more and more immigrants every year to take care of things and those immigrants are having way more babies than the native population, hence Eurabia. Why aren't they having babies? Because babies get in the way of a prosperous and comfortable modern life. Peanut butter fingerprints on the leather seats in the BMW. The Euros are particular -- in particular can't be bothered with kids. Underscore that second point.

     
  • posted at 3:04 am on Fri, Jun 11, 2010.

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    Us Caucasians are caled racist anytimewe disagree with a law that helps control illegal immigration. Yet Caucasians have not been having nearly as many children as other ethnicities.Caucasians have been duped into thinkingthat less children keeps the population down. Yeah, and it also is contributingto our culture slowly dying off. Look around youi and see how there is not nearly enough Caucasians in the world to help sustain the culture. Now, all you good Liberals tell us we're racists when you know it's all about preserving a culture. I dare ya.

     
  • posted at 4:10 am on Thu, Jun 10, 2010.

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    How long are we going to beat this dog!! Illegal is just that illegal. They are not needed and they are not wanted.. If these demonstrators are so proud oftheir ancestry, then stay in Mexico and clean up your pig sty of a country..This goes for all illegal’s not just Mexicans. But as they are the majority ofIllegal’s the load falls on them.. Go home and be all you can be…

     
  • posted at 4:28 pm on Wed, Jun 9, 2010.

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    I do not see a problem. Immigrate legally or get out. Our border patrol should follow the same rules as the Mexican government does with their southern neighbors. Be legal or go into lockup or get shot. Easy.

     
  • posted at 4:09 pm on Wed, Jun 9, 2010.

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    today I saw a mexican dude wearing a diamondbacks hat-go figure

     
  • posted at 9:59 am on Wed, Jun 9, 2010.

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    I have already been to AZ once since the law was passed and will be going at least 2 more times this year. CA needs the same law with the same penalties, the reason AZ added this to the law was so that there is no mistaking that it is mandatory inforcement.

     
  • posted at 4:36 am on Wed, Jun 9, 2010.

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    T&C on June 8 @8:28AM...Ahh, yes, CA has the same law, but can you right wing nut jobs SUE law enforcement for NOT doing their job like Arizonans will be able to do(when and IF the law actually takes effect)? I think T&C needs to start campaigning for that ammendment to the law. Looks like you need another cause to occupy your time instead of doing all your griping from your computer terminal.

     
  • posted at 3:59 am on Wed, Jun 9, 2010.

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    GO AZ! i support em in any and every way i can. we should bring all our men and women of the military home and have em secure our borders. no more nation building. lets take care of our own. stop policing the globe and focus on our own. amnesty, NOT. all illegals need to return home and if interested in entering America, do it the legal way. if they choose not to exit at this time. they shouldn't get the opportunity to come back. all of em, not just those from mexico, all of em. irish, russian, asian, all of em. i'm all for legal immigration.

     
  • posted at 3:00 am on Wed, Jun 9, 2010.

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    pre$$ure$on wrote on Jun 8, 2010 10:59 PM:" Wow, T&C, now you're a double hater!LOL "I would like to comment on 2 points pre$$ur$on, so please put the donated donuts down for a moment.(First), how am I a "Hater" for defining the California Penal Code regarding unlawful people in California? The California Legislators made the law.(Second), How dare you call me a hater! My feelings are deeply hurt. I risked my life going to Lawrence Park, looking for you because (I thought you had been stabbed or killed, while handing out day old donuts to transients.)This is how you repay me for risking my life for you? Well, see if I go to any park again to see if you have been stabbed. I had a cell phone to call an ambulance and have Advanced First Aid training. They both would have come in handy had I found you with a knife in your chest.Geez, some bloggers are so ungrateful... and you call me a (Hater)? Please look in the mirror, pre$$ur$on!

     
  • posted at 5:59 pm on Tue, Jun 8, 2010.

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    Wow, T&C, now you're a double hater!LOL

     
  • posted at 1:26 pm on Tue, Jun 8, 2010.

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    "pre$$ure$on wrote on Jun 8, 2010 2:36 PM:" Dogs, I was at Lawrence park just an hour ago, delivering some pastries donated by local stores. I've been reading these blogsm\, and I don't have to say a word."http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-06-08-immigration_N.htmIt makes me sick to my stomach when I see that illegals from Mexico INVADE the U.S. and instead of filing for citizenship to become a hispanic/American, they hide like (ROACHES) for 20 years, sending money back to mexico with NO INTENTION on becoming a legal citizen.I don't think this posted. Sorry if it is a double post.

     
  • posted at 1:25 pm on Tue, Jun 8, 2010.

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    "pre$$ure$on wrote on Jun 8, 2010 2:36 PM:" Dogs, I was at Lawrence park just an hour ago, delivering some pastries donated by local stores. I've been reading these blogsm\, and I don't have to say a word."http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-06-08-immigration_N.htmIt makes me sick to my stomach when I see that illegals from Mexico INVADE the U.S. and instead of filing for citizenship to become a hispanic/American, they hide like (ROACHES) for 20 years, sending money back to mexico with NO INTENTION on becoming a legal citizen.

     
  • posted at 10:27 am on Tue, Jun 8, 2010.

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    Cogito: I played a private course in Phoenix two years ago. Went with the wife on a business conference and spent a day on the course with two partners in her firm. It was early spring so the weather was wonderful. Always feel like a hack out there shooting around 100, but then I only get out every few months or so.This fall I am planning on getting out twice a month, at least. Contemplating a membership at a course east of us. I'll play it a couple of times and see. Wouldn't mind joining a club with some good social events. I might rent a locker to leave my clubs and ride my bike to the course to play.

     
  • posted at 7:23 am on Tue, Jun 8, 2010.

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    Sam, I whole heartedly agree. Pat, actually I am pretty good at it. But I may wait until late fall to miss the heat.

     
  • posted at 3:56 am on Tue, Jun 8, 2010.

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    " Most everyone feels we should enforce existing law, but that's not enough. You need to update outdated laws. For instance, the 14th Amendment, used to guarantee birthright citizenship (though that was never its intent), has to be changed. It begins: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." It needs to read: "All persons born of parents or a parent who is a citizen of the United States, and all persons naturalized in the United States..." (I suppose that would foul things up for the Anchor Baby Mothers who are obviously not working in the fields, but that's another story.) We must address the Anchor Baby problem. Pass the Birthright Citizenship Act, HR 1868.

     
  • posted at 3:30 am on Tue, Jun 8, 2010.

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    If I was the New California Governor, boy I would CLAMP DOWN financially on every California city boycotting Arizona.

     
  • posted at 3:29 am on Tue, Jun 8, 2010.

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    (2)Notify the person of his or her apparent status as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws and inform him or her that, apart from any criminal justice proceedings, he or she must either obtain legal status or leave the United States.(3)Notify the Attorney General of California and the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service of the apparent illegal status and provide any additional information that may be requested by any other public entity. "(c) Any legislative, administrative, or other action by a city, county, or other legally authorized local governmental entity with jurisdictional boundaries, or by a law enforcement agency, to prevent or limit the cooperation required by subdivision (a) is expressly prohibited.”" Why pass any new immigration law when US don't even want to enforce the existing one? The US is funny when it comes to existing laws. They want to pick and choose the one they want to enforce. If you want to pass a law, enforce it or else don't pass more laws.We don't have to be politically correct and we're not racists because we don't support illegal’s.

     
  • posted at 3:28 am on Tue, Jun 8, 2010.

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    " California has the same law on its books as Arizona has just passed.SECTION 834b - California Penal Code(a) Every law enforcement agency in California shall fully cooperate with the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service regarding any person who is arrested if he or she is suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws.(b) With respect to any such person who is arrested, and suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws, every law enforcement agency shall do the following:(1)Attempt to verify the legal status of such person as a citizen of the United States, an alien lawfully admitted as a permanent resident, an alien lawfully admitted for a temporary period of time or as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of immigration laws. The verification process may include, but shall not be limited to, questioning the person regarding his or her date and place of birth, and entry into the United States, and demanding documentation to indicate his or her legal status.

     
  • posted at 2:43 pm on Mon, Jun 7, 2010.

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    Cog: I hope it's hot down there...in AZ cause I am jealous. First because you get to go and second because you can golf...or can you? Mr Roberts: Read the CA Penal code on how illegal aliens are handled...it seems as though the SF and LA crowds forgot about CA's laws.

     
  • posted at 12:11 pm on Mon, Jun 7, 2010.

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    Cog... we have been wanting to see the Grand Canyon for quite some time. Because of their new law in Arizona, we are going to SUPPORT the state.

     
  • posted at 7:02 am on Mon, Jun 7, 2010.

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    I do plan on making a golf trip to Az. sometime this year. I would like to think that the boycott might keep the links less crowded, but considering the popularity of this law with the national public I doubt that will happen. Arizona will probably be more popular than ever.

     

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