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• Brian Dockter posted at 10:22 am on Sun, Mar 6, 2011.

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  Joanne:

  Can you give us some examples why you don't think politicians are opportunists?
  This is not a loaded question unless you think only Republican politicians are opportunists.

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• Brian Dockter posted at 10:17 am on Sun, Mar 6, 2011.

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  Joanne wrote:

  
  No way...! We actually have a conspiracy theorist in Lodi who believes it is a government/scientific community/whatever plot to blame tobacco for lung cancer? We are beginning to complete the circle here in Lodi. Tell me, Carol, just for my own personal research, is Global Warming a made up story also? What other scientific hypotheses have you determined, through your thorough research, are entirely bogus?

  Chuckle:

  Joanne,
  No one is saying cigarettes and it's smoke cannot be attributable to some of the lung cancer.
  Nor is anyone saying human activity cannot be attributable to some of the global warming. In the grand scheme of things, if the government can make enough of a case
  on a given issue in order to justify raising taxes it will. An example is how Al Gore
  has succeeded in making his global warming case. And I doubt if the government will ever make cigarettes illegal if they can slap taxes on it to fund programs such as
  health awareness and residential treatment centers for recovering drug addicts. It seems to me it's quite obvious the government has no problem capitalizing on one persons vice in order to fund programs that heal. I'm not too sure I agree with this approach. But politicians are opportunists just like everyone else.

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• shawn sanborn posted at 7:05 pm on Tue, Mar 1, 2011.

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  I f I remember right, wasnt lodi the first city to go Nazi on smoking? I am not surprised in the least at this new possible ordinance against a legal product. There is a county in ca. a small one that is a (dry tobacco county) can your beleive it? When will this end? So soon you will not be able to walk on a public sidewalk and smoke because you will b too close to some form of store city owned building or school. Then what? you cant smoke in your driveway? Your own house? Where does it stop? It doesnt! When you keep raming propaganda down peoples throats, eventualy they get use to it and accept it. Kinda like long term brainwashing isnt it?

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• Joanne Bobin posted at 10:33 am on Tue, Mar 1, 2011.

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  Whoa...actually went to the "smokershistory.com" website...run, by the way by, Ms. Carol Thompson of Madison, Wisconsin. She seems to be an extremely angry woman for a smoker...maybe when she writes her articles she's been off the "juice" for an hour or so.

  Hoppin' days in Madison lately!

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• Joanne Bobin posted at 10:25 am on Tue, Mar 1, 2011.

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  No way...! We actually have a conspiracy theorist in Lodi who believes it is a government/scientific community/whatever plot to blame tobacco for lung cancer? We are beginning to complete the circle here in Lodi. Tell me, Carol, just for my own personal research, is Global Warming a made up story also? What other scientific hypotheses have you determined, through your thorough research, are entirely bogus?

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• Josh Morgan posted at 3:48 pm on Sun, Feb 27, 2011.

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  Carol.....are you a smoker?

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• Carol Thompson posted at 9:14 am on Sun, Feb 27, 2011.

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  You let them get away with spreading health lies, so what did you expect?

  The anti-smokers commit scientific fraud by ignoring over 50 studies showing that human papillomaviruses cause at least 1/4 of non-small cell lung cancers. Smokers and passive smokers are more likely to get this virus for socioeconomic reasons. The anti-smokers use studies based on lifestyle questionnaires, so they're cynically DESIGNED to blame tobacco for all those extra lung cancers from HPV. They commit the same fraud with every disease they blame on tobacco.

  http://www.smokershistory.com/hpvlungc.htm
  http://www.smokershistory.com/SGHDlies.html

  All their so-called "independent" reports were ring-led by the same guy, Jonathan M. Samet, including the Surgeon General Reports, the EPA report, the IARC report, and the ASHRAE report, and he's now the chairman of the FDA Committee on Tobacco. His clique excludes all the REAL scientists from their echo chamber to make them "unanimous!"

  http://www.smokershistory.com/SGlies.html

  When government commits fraud to deprive us of our liberties it violates our rights just as much as purposely throwing innocent people in prison. And government lies about phony smoking dangers are terrorism, just like calling in phony bomb threats.
  

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