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Cynthia Neely: Farm bill vote gives farmers welfare but not the poor

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  • Charles Nelson posted at 12:24 pm on Mon, Oct 21, 2013.

    Charles Nelson Posts: 259

    While I agree with some of Ms. Neely's sentiments, it stands to reason that farmers also benefit from food stamps. When a consumer buys farm products, the farmer gets paid the same whether dollars or food stamps are used for the purchase.

  • Andrew Liebich posted at 9:34 am on Fri, Oct 18, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Believing Monsanto has nothing to do with farms and food is like believing water isn't wet.

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:07 am on Sat, Oct 5, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    However many Monsanto executives are now in the Obama administration is irrelevant. That has nothing to do with this column, Mr. Liebich.

    You can count dozens of former corporate executives several of the past administrations - especially oil and gas execs.

    It doesn't make your comment any more relevant.

  • John Kindseth posted at 5:05 pm on Fri, Oct 4, 2013.

    John Kindseth Posts: 245

    Who started the farm subsidy program ????

  • Doug Chaney posted at 10:04 am on Fri, Oct 4, 2013.

    advocate Posts: 502

    Greed is when too much is still not enough. They are called the "filthy" rich.

  • John Lucas posted at 4:28 pm on Thu, Oct 3, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730

    The reality is that Cindy knows very well what it takes to farm and the plight of the SMALL farmer as many of our family were just that back in Texas. The point of the letter is obviously about who the Republicans care about. They do not care about the small farmer but are in the pockets of Big Agriculture and certainly do not care about working people living on the edge. The Republican Party is all about promoting welfare as long as it is welfare for the big corporations whether agriculture or not.

  • Ted Lauchland posted at 3:38 pm on Thu, Oct 3, 2013.

    Ted Lauchland Posts: 261

    There was a reference to farmers not growing crops which ties a much bigger picture to the conversation. What is silly is to not look deeper into her statements than what - in her mind - is greed.

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:02 am on Thu, Oct 3, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Lauchland - to accuse Ms. Neely of "a lack of understanding of what it takes to farm" is just plain silly.

    Her column really had nothing to do with farming, rather more to do with the amount of money given to large corporate farms and to Congress members who happen to be farmers and the amount of cash they take while at the same time denying hungry people money for food - GREED, plain and simple.

    As for "teach 'em to fish," most people and families receiving SNAP actually WORK, but their incomes are not large enough to cover all food and other expenses.

    It constantly amazes me that there are so many who have so much and yet want to deny those not as fortunate a SIMPLE MEAL.

  • Andrew Liebich posted at 8:09 am on Thu, Oct 3, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    Monsanto has how many individuals in President Pinnocchios administration?

  • John Lucas posted at 7:13 am on Thu, Oct 3, 2013.

    John Lucas Posts: 2730


  • Ted Lauchland posted at 1:04 pm on Wed, Oct 2, 2013.

    Ted Lauchland Posts: 261

    The simple size of a farm does not only add zeros to the right of the income column but also to the right of the expense column. Bottom line determines failure or success.

  • Ted Lauchland posted at 12:54 pm on Wed, Oct 2, 2013.

    Ted Lauchland Posts: 261

    The size of a farm only adds or subtracts zeros from the right.

  • Ted Lauchland posted at 12:26 pm on Wed, Oct 2, 2013.

    Ted Lauchland Posts: 261

    Teach 'em to fish. It is all in HOW you should feed them. Be part of a productive society so they can turn around and be generous themselves.

    This article shows a lack of understanding what it takes to farm and what it also takes to keep it as a farm that supplies the food for ALL peoples.

    For instance - Mama nature vs. bank loans. Banks want consistencies. Irrigated lands as in California help for consistencies. For non irrigated crops how do you get the consistencies? Even so year to year crop levels bounce. People take for granted a consistent supply of food without having any idea about where it comes from.

    Teach them to fish so that they may understand.

    Fallowed lands going along with current producing lands have to be accounted for as well. The purpose of fallowing is to not overtax the land. Fertilizer helps for continued production but fallowing is a natural way of revitalizing soil in the way of nutrients and nematode reduction.

    California loves to try to control what they do not really understand .The tax man doesn't care.

    Or - maybe he does!

    Farm subsidies, property tax discounts, ag. land preservation policies either from government or individual private supported groups all aimed at creating affordable food for your table and also creating jobs that get it there are all valid.

    Labor vs. mechanization doesn't care about giving people jobs at one point and then turns around and makes it more affordable for everyone to purchase anything if they only had the money in the first place to buy it. Production expenses have to fit. Hand labor has it's benefits.

    When a farmer throws up his hands because of too many things working against him to produce what he can and he sells out to black topping there is no longer a food supply to argue over. Government choses to get involved with that to try to guarantee it not happening. It's not so much as not to grow as it is not to black top. Temporary fallowed lands are not to grow. You'd think California of all places would love caring for the land in such a manor.

    Everything else is a give away. Compassion for your fellowman comes in a much better form than that and if you want to quote Jesus - Again - "Teach them to fish".

    Europe has even more absurd looking policies than the U.S. trying to protect it's food sources.

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:51 am on Wed, Oct 2, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    It would be sheer incomprehension to even believe that the current system of Farm Subsidies is even related to the original act signed in 1936 by FDR.

    3/4's of the farms that receive these subsidies are large corporate farms - that is why they are so vigorously supported by Republicans.

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:23 am on Wed, Oct 2, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Of 15 current members of the US Congress who received farm subsidies, 13 are Republicans.

    ALL ELEVEN in the House are Republicans.

    Of the 4 in the Senate, 2 are Democrats.

    Sen. Jon Tester (D) Montana received $505K between 1995 -2012
    Sen. Michael Bennett (D) California received $22K between 1995-2012

    NONE comes even close to Stephen Fincher's 3.5 MILLION between 1999-2012.

    Only ONE other exceeding ONE MILLION $$ in the 1995-2012 time period, Congressman Doug LaMalfa (R) California (1st Congressional District - Northern CA). He took office in Jan. 2013 and he voted FOR cutting the SNAP program.

  • Eric Barrow posted at 7:24 am on Wed, Oct 2, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1601

    The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities reports that defense spending is 19% of the federal budget Medicare takes another 7%, together that’s 26% of the budget. Safety net programs (welfare) take 12% of the budget. The Bureau of Labor reports that in in 2011,10.4 million individuals were among the working poor.

  • Joe Baxter posted at 3:32 pm on Tue, Oct 1, 2013.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1913

    American taxpayers are currently on the hook for over $400 BILLION a year in welfare entitlements, how much more do liberals, like Ms. Neely, think we should spend on welfare?
    Welfare costs in this country have reached a point where they account for more than the sums the nation spends on Social Security, Medicare, or national defense — the amounts spent on welfare equal the budget for defense and Medicare combined and for the most part, the recipients contribute NOTHING. Obama is fostering a generation of welfare dependent people. When you control what people get, you control what people do.
    As most liberals do, Ms Neely implies that only Republicans are involved in farm subsidies. Are we to believe that no Democratic farmers are receiving subsidies? Of course they do.

  • robert maurer posted at 3:08 pm on Tue, Oct 1, 2013.

    mason day Posts: 483

    ...and speaking of welfare, 34% of the nation's welfare recipients live in California, but only12% of the US population resides there. That is one-third of the nation's welfare recipients. California's per capita spending is 3rd at $179. New York is first at$256 and Idaho is at the bottom of the list at $17. www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/Jul/28/welfare-capital-of- the- us/ Oh, those uncaring conservatives that want poor people to starve: especially in Idaho...[lol]

  • Andrew Liebich posted at 9:51 am on Tue, Oct 1, 2013.

    Andrew Liebich Posts: 2999

    The Soil Conservation and Domestic Allotment Act Pub.L. 74–461, enacted February 29, 1936 is the United States federal law that allows the government to pay farmers.

    The irony is apparently lost on Cynthia Neely.

    FDR was a Democrat.[sleeping]


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