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  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 3:00 pm on Thu, Aug 16, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Curry stated...They need water too, and why should the "northern areas be considered first

    What? Mr Curry cannot be serious... Delta water is a natural resource of northern California, not Southern. Why in the world shouldn't an area have first rights to the resource available where people decide to buy land, live, work and pay taxes.

    In addition, northern California is taking 100% of the risk of LA takes the water. If environmental damages result from this process, Southern California will not suffer, we will.

  • Ted Lauchland posted at 12:13 pm on Thu, Aug 16, 2012.

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    I will agree with the too many people statement to start. It takes cheaper water to farm to put cheaper produce on the store shelves. Efficiencies in production costs in todays markets put food in our mouths. Central Valley Farmers are only fooling themselves if they think they will enjoy accessing cheap water if any water at all because of the southern California demand.
    It happens in Lodi with EBMUD. We have the water here and need the water here but is shipped downstream for a higher need/price. Lodi's groundwater has been it's reservor. It's draining.
    Fish and wildlife are not even included in this conversation. How expensive do you think it should be to put a slab of salmon on your plate if the fish doesn't exist - like that makes any sense. Fish farms are all that would be left if at all.
    The water is generated here and should be stored here before it goes to the ocean . More water should be stored down south as well so they can use it when it is needed. Bottom line is farming or living in a desert region demands water from some place else. Please do not make this area into a desolate region to support a region like that at our expense. Share - yes - but at what cost ?- No


  • Fred Curry posted at 10:23 pm on Wed, Aug 15, 2012.

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    But Ted's complaints are exactly the same as central valley farmers and Southern Californians would make. They need water too, and why should the "northern areas be considered first?" Too many people, too little water. The state needs to allocate water to maximize the overall welfare. If that means shipping cleaner water south, it should.

    Of course if it just means giving more cheap water to Westlands, that is another story.

  • Ted Lauchland posted at 1:32 pm on Wed, Aug 15, 2012.

    Ted Lauchland Posts: 261

    Exactly right, Mr. Gayaldo.

    The aquaduct was originally built with the idea to use excess water from the Delta. Southern California have just been waiting to take more when they thought the time was right. It wasn't right in "82" and it is not right now. The tunnels would not be reservors controlling and providing the extra water during dry years. They would only take fresh water anytime to satisfy Southern California's thirst. We would suffer in those dry years even more than we do now. More water storage to prepare for those years is necessary to provide for those needs.

    Lodi's flooding stopped when Camanche Dam was put in but it's natural groundwater recharge was severely handicapped because of it. Bottomland ag also added to the problem in removing potential recharge reservour locations. EBMUD took more rights to our water that further inhibited recharge. Lodi Lake helps but does nothing for east of the city. Lack of reliable surface water has all but thrown out the existance of North County Water District abilities to shuttle water to customers on a consistant basis. - Can't do it. Sound familiar? - The south wants the same consistancies.

    A Galt farmer faces upstream water reservour charges for doing what the state should be doing by putting water in storage for later use - unfortunately illegally- according to a recent article in this paper . Water wars have been here forever.

    Ag has been cleaning up their act for cleaner water downstream and with the use of drip irrigation for water conservation . This doesn't put air back in the water though nor does it make stagnant water cooler for fish spawning or other details that fresh water provides for all. Reserving flood waters for later use does.

    Pressure on levies are slowly getting worse because of islands dropping and river bottoms raising. Dregging has always been necessary to maintain them. Reenforcing levies has been necessary ever since they have been built.
    Taking water from further upstream -as the tunnels would - draws saltwater further inland making Lodi , Delta areas and other towns effectively down stream of southern California . Not acceptable thank you. Inland ports are also at risk.

    All of California should grab the water when it is available ,for use later, and the northern areas need to be considered first. Ag takes water to exist and the towns built around the water in NC also exist because of it. The tunnels would be about as short sighted as you can get and would only serve as a battleground and not a solution.


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