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  • Joanne Bobin posted at 6:38 am on Thu, Jun 20, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488


  • Joanne Bobin posted at 10:13 pm on Wed, Jun 19, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    [thumbup] In the best Iranian tradition!

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 10:11 pm on Wed, Jun 19, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Thank you, Mr. Paglia. I'm sure that Ms. P has no idea what you are talking about.

  • Kevin Paglia posted at 5:12 pm on Wed, Jun 19, 2013.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2114


    "Communitarianism is an ideology that emphasizes the connection between the individual and the community. That community may be the family unit, but it can also be understood in a far wider sense of personal interaction, of geographical location, or of shared history"

    Just so everyone knows and are understanding what is being talked about.

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 3:02 pm on Wed, Jun 19, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    "That is what communitarism is all about..."

    Now, if "communitarism" was an actual word, perhaps we might be able to discern what this writer is trying to convey.

    Is "communitarism" some sort of evil concept related to "communism," perhaps? Or maybe the concept of the "commune?'

    Either way, it's clear that it is a totally evil concept that anyone who would even THINK that a community should act as a whole in the community's interests while simultaneiously despoiling the rights of the individual is absolutely abhorrent.

    What do these people want? For each individual to act in their own interests, for there to be no coherence in societal order?

    What kind of thinking is this?

  • Ed Miller posted at 1:41 pm on Wed, Jun 19, 2013.

    Ed946 Posts: 70

    Mr. Neely and I disagree on a number of issues concerning Common Core, but, we both agree that this program is untested and to roll it out across the board is not wise. My feeling is that the School Board should, with other like-minded districts, require the State/Feds prove that this program will actually work as advertised. Will our students' standardized test score increase or decrease based on current testing? If the scores are predicted (with data) to decrease, then the District should say no and be well justified in doing so.

  • Mike Adams posted at 11:47 am on Wed, Jun 19, 2013.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1573

    If Kim could, I would like a list of the "CONSPIRACY THEORIES" that have become reality.

    And you do recognize the difference between a "theory" and "fact" right? I think you are confusing the term "reality" with "fact". Are you saying that some "conspiracy theories" have been proven true or are you saying some "conspiracy theories" have been proven to be "conspiracy theories", which of course, means no change in their status.

    In the interest of fairness, could you list a couple of "conspiracy theories" that have been proven to be true. I mean unequivocally true. Not even a scent of "it still might be false". Not even remotely debatable. Flat out truth. No fuzziness. You can pick your own to list. I won't even make any suggestions. Anything you choose that at one time was considered a "conspiracy theory", meaning many people believed in a "thing" that most everyone thought was not a "thing" at all, except it was later proven the "thing" was absolutely true. Like the Earth revolves around the sun. The Earth is round. Not things like "chemtrails" (which are real......water being a chemical compound and condenses at high altitudes to form trails in the sky).

    I look forward to your list.

  • Kim Parigoris posted at 10:34 am on Wed, Jun 19, 2013.

    Kim Parigoris Posts: 470

    That is what communitarism is all about Kevin. The breakdown of individuality. There will be 400 points of data mining that children will be assessed on.
    Once the student-specific data has been generated and coded in a consistent manner, education technology companies will be able to use the information to develop software for students, teachers and administrators.
    A few years ago, such information was off-limits to non-education officials, thanks to the Family Educational Privacy Rights Act.
    The U.S. Department of Education found a way around that roadblock, too.
    “In 2011, regulations issued by the department changed FERPA to allow the release to third parties of student information for non-academic purposes,” writes Valerie Strauss of The Washington Post. “The (new) rules also broaden the exceptions under which schools can release student records to non-governmental organizations without first obtaining written consent from parents.”
    The education technology companies are benefiting from the relaxed privacy rules.
    In 2012, “technology startups aimed at K-12 schools attracted more than $425 million in venture capital,” reports Reuters.
    News Corporation CEO Rupert Murdoch, who owns Amplify, one of the nation’s largest educational technology companies, has described K-12 education as “a $500 billion sector in the U.S. alone.”
    When Murdoch purchased his company three years ago, he proclaimed that “individualized, technology-based learning … is poised to revolutionize public education for a new generation of students.”

  • Kim Parigoris posted at 10:26 am on Wed, Jun 19, 2013.

    Kim Parigoris Posts: 470

    Put it in the "conspiracy theory" box and put it back on the shelf and all is good. Funny how many of these "conspiracy theories" are becoming a reality, aren't they? It is so much easier to do that, than to question the motives behind something.

  • Kevin Paglia posted at 10:18 am on Wed, Jun 19, 2013.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2114

    "The concept behind CCS standards is to reduce the number of standards to those key tasks that students need in order to understand and work with more advanced concepts"

    I may be misreading this, and am open to being corrected, but this sounds a lot like teaching to the lowest common denominator. What will happen to the student who excels in the reduced standards? They will get bored and be unchallenged to do better. HOW does CCS, with it's reduced standards, encourage students who excel to push themselves even farther?

  • Eric Barrow posted at 7:24 am on Wed, Jun 19, 2013.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1604

    Ahhhh a voice of reason how refreshing in these times.


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