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• Darrell Baumbach posted at 6:04 pm on Wed, Oct 24, 2012.

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  Mr Kinderman stated…I believe Mr. Baumbach was only attempting a light-hearted way to assist all of us to not make such errors...

  Mr. Kinderman is very perceptive. I have for quite some time been attempting to help Ms. Bobin overcome her propensity to viciously attack and distort the intent of what people post. She has so many times ridiculed the good people of Lodi by claiming over and over again that she sees bigots around every corner and even at Star Bucks as she sips her coffee.
  She appears to be very clever with words and many times misrepresents the intent of what others say. Her constant belittling of others is a daily event. She now is walking back her inappropriate comment about Ms. Boxer. It is possible that she is sincere when she claims she stated "her Christian name," which is a very common way of saying "given name." and that it had nothing to do with saying she is Christian.
  However, it is more likely that Ms. Bobin, as Mr. Kinderman pointed out, meant something negative. "...In a multicultural society the old-fashioned term “Christian name” (for “given name”) is both inaccurate and offensive."
  

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• Jerome Kinderman posted at 2:31 pm on Wed, Oct 24, 2012.

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  I believe Mr. Baumbach was only attempting a light-hearted way to assist all of us to not make such errors. This from “Common Errors in English Usage” (http://tinyurl.com/98pt5ho): "...In a multicultural society the old-fashioned term “Christian name” (for “given name”) is both inaccurate and offensive."

  I would think a little more research might be in order for all of before embarrassing ourselves with such faux pas.

  I've certainly learned something valuable.

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• Joanne Bobin posted at 1:05 pm on Wed, Oct 24, 2012.

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  Derogatory? I stated, "self-proclaimed." If one refers to oneself in a particular manner, why should repeating that be derogatory? Don't use it if you don't want to be called that. That would be the best solution.

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• Joanne Bobin posted at 1:01 pm on Wed, Oct 24, 2012.

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  Mr. Baumbach wrote: "They were offended that Ms Bobin accused her of being Christian... I think we have another Tina Fey moment... great job Ms Bobin! "

  Once again Mr. Baumbach has trouble with reading comprehension - I stated "her Christian name," which is a very common way of saying "given name." Has nothing to do with saying she is Christian, but if you think you are so clever, have at it.

  By the way, Barbara is Greek in origin and widely used by Roman Catholics and the Greek Orthodox branch. Do you ALSO want to take it up with her parents for naming her something NOT out of the Old Testament?

  But then, as a self-proclaimed non-Christian, non-religious person, you wouldn't know a Biblical name if it hit you over the head.

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• Doug Chaney posted at 11:17 am on Wed, Oct 24, 2012.

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  The bottom line is, Mr. Bader, these corrupted political hacks make their own rules, so why do you think they keep themselves out of prison? Pretty simple, huh? Like a squarehead from North Dakota.

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• Ted Lauchland posted at 10:38 am on Wed, Oct 24, 2012.

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  Pardon my typo Mr. Bader.
  

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• Ted Lauchland posted at 10:32 am on Wed, Oct 24, 2012.

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  I will not contest the freedom of speech issue going on here but will address the fact that the words used can be hurtful and damaging as fingers point back and forth. I do have a question for Ms. Bobin however. Working off emotions sometimes are productive but can be counter productive as well.
  I thought the issue of the German referances had been settled. Why can you use it in a derogatory manor and Mr. Bador cannot mention it at all even though his intentions were not negative at any time. Do as I say and not as I do ?

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• Darrell Baumbach posted at 4:16 pm on Tue, Oct 23, 2012.

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  Ms Bobin stated...calling her "Barbie" rather than her proper Christian name

  I immedicately contacted Ms Boxer's office to confirm she was correct.. Unfortunately, her staff was very upset with Ms Bobin.....

  Jewish Members of Congress: #1 on the list Barbara Boxer (Senator, California)

  They were offended that Ms Bobin accused her of being Christian... I think we have another Tina Fey moment... great job Ms Bobin![lol]

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• Joanne Bobin posted at 11:56 am on Tue, Oct 23, 2012.

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  Why am I not surprised that this self-proclaimed "squarehead" has called out, by name, only two politicians: An African American and a woman - stating the first "never was there," and demeaning the second by calling her "Barbie" rather than her proper Christian name.

  Shame on you, "Doctor" Bader!

  And perhaps you should do a little more reading about Abraham Lincoln. Yes, he accomplished amazing things, but what he had to do to get support for the 13th Amendment was not exactly "honest." Only George Walker Bush promised more individuals special favors and appointments during the RNC in 2000 than Abraham Lincoln did to get the votes he needed.

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