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No arrests in gang-related shooting that left buckshot in Lodi man's eye, hand

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Posted: Tuesday, March 9, 2010 12:00 am

A Lodi man is waiting to learn whether he will regain his full vision after being shot this weekend in an incident that had gang detectives searching four cities.

Doctors had to remove two pellets of buckshot from one of Ruben Garcia Jr.'s eyes, and they determined it was too risky to try removing pellets from his esophagus, hand and torso, said his wife, Ana Garcia.

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26 comments:

  • posted at 12:53 pm on Wed, Mar 10, 2010.

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    Remedial Response to T&C..Let me put this in the simplest terms possible, as I think you have a difficult time understanding.Ans. To Questions 1&2: YES. Gangsters “hang around” the homes they rent (or own!). We ALL “hang around” our dwellings. Does that offend you? Do we deserve to be shot at for doing so? (Is there a “City Bedtime”?)YES. I am telling you that it is ABSOLUTELY possible for a “wolf pack” of hoodlums to shoot the home of an INNOCENT person in an attempt to pay back the slightest bit of perceived disrespect. “Gangsters” have been known to shoot for FAR less than being run out of someone’s yard.Read the article again. The victims are NOT gang members and have NO record with the police. The victim’s wife did not condone hoodlum behavior. She did not want them in her yard or around her children. The perps returned, as promised, and shot her husband and brother. Don’t kid yourself. This could happen to YOU! Hopefully, you will receive more kindness than you have given.Simple enough?

     
  • posted at 7:44 am on Wed, Mar 10, 2010.

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    birdseyeview wrote on Mar 10, 2010 1:35 PM:If Mr. Garcia was gang affiliated, he would not have been sitting outside with his brother-in-law, IN FRONT of the home where his family lay sleeping. A hard-core gangster, who knew the thugs, would have rallied his homeboys and would have gunned down the jerks who threatened his family without a second thought."Let me get this right:Are you telling all of us bloggers that: 1) Gang Banger's don't hang around the homes or apartments they rent? and 2) that Gang Bangers just "Randomly" for absolutely NO REASON walk up in a "WOLF PACK' attitude and just start shooting innocent people?I Quote: "Ana Garcia said they do have relatives who are involved with gang members, but that neither she nor her husband are gang members".You associate with Gang Banger's and sooner or later they are gonna bring it to your home or yard.But please, by all means, bring this family a shopping cart of food. While you are at it could you please pay the hospital bill too?

     
  • posted at 7:35 am on Wed, Mar 10, 2010.

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    T&C--Do I sound like I’m kidding? PROVE this woman married a gangster! How much do you REALLY KNOW about gangs? If Mr. Garcia was gang affiliated, he would not have been sitting outside with his brother-in-law, IN FRONT of the home where his family lay sleeping. A hard-core gangster, who knew the thugs, would have rallied his homeboys and would have gunned down the jerks who threatened his family without a second thought. He wouldn’t have bothered to call law enforcement. That’s how things go in the real world of gangs. Fools cover themselves in blankets of ignorance. …”This woman married a gangster”, she deserves what she got!?! (…HE got cancer because he drank diet soda…This or that person deserves whatEVER because he/she didn’t follow one of the little rules you use to pretend that your life is immune to misfortune.) This family suffered a terrifying ordeal and needs help. I will find a way to send a meal or some groceries to them. Maybe you should consider showing some mercy rather than pointing your accusing finger. T&C, you too, will reap what you sew.Not hiding under a penname or white hood,Gloria Losh.

     
  • posted at 4:26 am on Wed, Mar 10, 2010.

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    birdseyeview wrote on Mar 10, 2010 1:14 AM:Have pity on the poor pregnant woman who is alone with her babies,while her husband is suffering in the hospital.You must be kidding? She made a bad choice in who she married....gang member!You reap what you sew!

     
  • posted at 7:14 pm on Tue, Mar 9, 2010.

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    My comment happened to get posted on top of the ones I was replying to. Hopefully knowing this will help my post (underneath this) seem more relevant.Bottom line: The family is being targeted by the "Lovable Lodians", who wrote unlovable things, for being Hispanic--nothing more. They were victims! Our police force does a great job and responded to the incident in time to see folks scattering. What are they supposed to do? They can't kick down every door in town. They can't be everywhere at once. Support them or pretty soon they'll pull off their badges and tell you know-it-alls to protect yourselves!Have pity on the poor pregnant woman who is alone with her babies,while her husband is suffering in the hospital. ...and let the bad guys who think they have our police out-gunned get OUT-SHOT if they think they're tough enough to start something ! Then watch the ignorant public find something wrong with how the police department protected us! Think about it,Folks. They don't have to be out there risking their lives for us!!!!! Appreciate them lest you lose them!Gloria Losh

     
  • posted at 6:32 pm on Tue, Mar 9, 2010.

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    Two Hispanic men sit outside visiting while one smokes to keep the smoke away from their pregnant wife and sister inside, not to mention the small children. Maybe they were watching out in case the thugs who threatened her came back.Is that wrong because YOU think it is too late to be up? God forbid it happens to your family next time and you don't have to read some dolt's ignorant wrantings that insinuate they had it coming, based on nothing more than your last name! These people are not gang affiliated and have had NO trouble with the law. Do you know these people, or do you just assume they deserve to be terrorized because they are the same race as the perps? The poor family was attacked and the father is critically injured. Take off your white sheet long enough to think how you would feel if that happened to your loved ones.Then imagine the additional hurt when people make nasty comments in the local newspaper. Shame on you!----Speaking of ignorance, let the morons who think they have the Lodi PD out-gunned smirk all they want. Watch them be "out shot"if they even try!Watch me laugh!GloriaLosh

     
  • posted at 2:53 pm on Tue, Mar 9, 2010.

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    LodiJoe wrote on Mar 9, 2010 7:30 AM:" CLA, blame the forced "political correctness" on a lot of crime issues that authorities don't agressively tackle. Everyone is SO AFRAID to do anything because the ACLU and ethnic organizations will condemn their actions. "Yes, you so absolutely correct. The police are hamstrung because they cannot grab a ganster because he is "mexican looking". Gawd what an awful position we have placed ourselves in.

     
  • posted at 1:26 pm on Tue, Mar 9, 2010.

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    1422- I agree. In many cases the "victims" condone and support this criminal lifestyle. Another approach is to set up roadblocks like sobriety stops, but also check for IDENTIFICATION, licenses, wants and warrants. We could have a detail from ICE to help out.

     
  • posted at 1:21 pm on Tue, Mar 9, 2010.

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    A long term cure would be to sterilize gang members and send them back to whence they came! In a few generations....we would have fewer murders, rapes and street crime. It is a cultural and generational issue.Clip clip, snip snip. Watch the welfare programs evaporate and anti-social behavior recede.Those compadres who don't stand up to these punks-with-guns are part of the problem. We need to give Darwin some assistance.

     
  • posted at 1:16 pm on Tue, Mar 9, 2010.

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    I agree with you 'goodmom'. These 'victims' are lying. They know who these little punks were and they probably know why they were at thier house.

     
  • posted at 12:21 pm on Tue, Mar 9, 2010.

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    Maybe if she wasn't married to a gang banger she could feel safe living where she is? You reap what ya sow!Now the county gets to "FOOT THE BILL" to heal these "Gang Bangers" so they can roam the streets again.Next time the victim could be you or me!

     
  • posted at 10:03 am on Tue, Mar 9, 2010.

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    For all those interested in the gang and crime statistics for Lodi, Police Chief David Main is scheduled to give a report on those figures at the Lodi Improvement Committee meeting tonight at 6PM at the Carnegie Forum. You will be welcome to express your concerns and ask questions if you wish. Each member of the public is allotted 5 minutes to speak and voice their opinion.

     
  • posted at 5:57 am on Tue, Mar 9, 2010.

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    MRS S, of course you are correct. I know lots of "minority" people and most condemn these acts. BUT, when they are perpetrated by minority citizens the authorities walk on eggshells lest they be blasted for being racist.

     
  • posted at 5:12 am on Tue, Mar 9, 2010.

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    Correction: "if indeed it's fact" not "face". Anyways, we used to live on the Eastside in the heart of gang land, and it was New Year's Eve. Public service announcements always say it's illegal to shoot guns and if you hear gunfire, then report it. Well, at the stroke of midnight when all the hoopladah happens, our neighbor started firing his shotgun off of his balcony. I was worried about stray bullets coming into our home. I phoned the police and I will never forget the dispatcher's response. She said, "It's New Year's Eve, what do you expect!" And she hung up on me. I just shook my head and prayed that nobody in our neighborhood would be hurt or killed by stray bullets. Sometimes LPD doesn't always respond in a timely manner, nor do the dispatchers seem to really care, but for the most part, I wouldn't want to live in our city without them. They are doing the best job they can considering budget woes, cutbacks, and increasing crime.

     
  • posted at 5:11 am on Tue, Mar 9, 2010.

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    ordinarycitizen, there's times where you wait hours for police to respond! There's good line I like out of the movie Panic Room: "..call the cops and wait until next Tuesday for them to arrive." It's crazy, but true!

     
  • posted at 5:06 am on Tue, Mar 9, 2010.

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    I think the most disturbing fact in this article, if indeed it's face, is the phrase: "Police ultimately responded to her 9-1-1 call, and the young people fled in all directions." How timely was the police response? I remember reporting a gang 'jump', where they initiate potential gang bangers by putting the person in the middle of about 10-20 gang members and then beat the tar out of them. If the person stays in the circle and takes the beating, then that person is now a gang member. This happened right outside my home. When I phoned the dispatcher about a gang initiation outside of my home, the response was, "How do you know?" "I read about this and saw it on TV how gang's initiate." "How many are there?" "I didn't have time to count. But enough to beat the snot out of the kid in the middle." It was about 40 minutes later when the police drove by, long after the kids moved on. I even phoned them and said don't bother showing up, they've left. "Which way did they go?" I didn't bother to find out cuz I don't want my home targeted.

     
  • posted at 4:58 am on Tue, Mar 9, 2010.

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    East Pine, East Elm, & East Lockeford Streets are the worst of the worst in Lodi..

     
  • posted at 4:46 am on Tue, Mar 9, 2010.

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    And we wonder why we have so many problems in our schools. This lady is pregnant again with her 4th child and her husband is up at 2 am and out side (but he is not gang related??? Ya ok) Way to bring another innocent child into your gang… I am glad my kid is almost out of high school, there is no doubt that these kids will be raised in this gang and will take it to the Lodi schools… So Sad

     
  • posted at 3:46 am on Tue, Mar 9, 2010.

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    Cut the police force and expect them to do their job when the number of gang members is growing. This seems to be the trend. I say safety first. These are tough times for sure, which makes crime even more prevalent. Keep our police officers.

     
  • posted at 3:42 am on Tue, Mar 9, 2010.

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    Mrs. S, nicely said!

     
  • posted at 3:41 am on Tue, Mar 9, 2010.

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    Does Ruben Garcia have health insurance or are the good citizens of the bankrupt State of California paying for this?

     
  • posted at 3:15 am on Tue, Mar 9, 2010.

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    LodiJoe,I don't think ethnic minorities like gangs anymore than anyone else. I have some Mexican-American acquaintances, and they think these guys are punks, just like anyone else would.

     
  • posted at 2:11 am on Tue, Mar 9, 2010.

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    Don't worry, Lodians, the gang detectives will handle it later. That's the same thing CCHansen said years ago when he was the police chief. Nothing's changed yet. Denial describes LPD. And lack of coverage from your local paper to hide the problem.

     
  • posted at 1:30 am on Tue, Mar 9, 2010.

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    CLA, blame the forced "political correctness" on a lot of crime issues that authorities don't agressively tackle. Everyone is SO AFRAID to do anything because the ACLU and ethnic organizations will condemn their actions.

     
  • posted at 10:20 pm on Mon, Mar 8, 2010.

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    I am sorry to go on, but people need to put a stop to those idoits. The people of Lodi need to stand up and I mean really stand up for what is right. I just can`t understand why all this allowed. And please don`t tell me they have their rights. They gangs crossed the line agian and they will be okay because they like the pain. I got some words for them, but not the internet.

     
  • posted at 10:13 pm on Mon, Mar 8, 2010.

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    I feel so sorry for this family. It`s stories like this that made me move out of Livable, lovable, Lodi. We had problems many many years ago, and we knew who did the ransanking and stealing. Police didn`t take finger prints or anything. One thing they stole was a gun. I suppose the people of Lodi and the courts and going to slap these idiots hands and say: no no... now don`t do that again. They should do something harsh and not tolerate it.

     
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