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Posted: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 10:00 pm

Her name seems to be appearing in the most unconventional spots in cyberspace: blogs written by mothers across the nation.

Maybe it's because Sarah Palin, chosen recently by presidential hopeful Sen. John McCain, R-Arizona, as his running mate, is not your conventional vice president candidate.

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353 comments:

  • posted at 2:18 am on Fri, Sep 26, 2008.

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    falcon wrote on Sep 25, 2008 6:13 PM:" Leonard, I am afraid to tell you. They might come and take them away. Yeah, living in Texas tends to alleviate many of those worries.

     
  • posted at 5:21 pm on Thu, Sep 25, 2008.

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    I am clinging to mine and my bible.

     
  • posted at 2:25 pm on Thu, Sep 25, 2008.

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    Better buy that thing Lenny, before your buddy Obama gets into office!LOL

     
  • posted at 1:16 pm on Thu, Sep 25, 2008.

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    Leonard, now that you live in Texas,http://www.bushmaster.com/

     
  • posted at 1:13 pm on Thu, Sep 25, 2008.

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    Leonard, I am afraid to tell you. They might come and take them away. Ha Ha Ha... I have a Browning 40, a 223, 22, a couple of shot guns.

     
  • posted at 9:05 am on Thu, Sep 25, 2008.

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    falcon wrote on Sep 25, 2008 1:04 PM:" Leonard, Texas is great! I have been there a couple of times and I loved it. If you hunt, it is even better. Just out of curiosity, what do you shoot?My wife and I have a Buckmaster .22, and a CZ 75 SP01 9mil. I am planning to buy a Ruger Mini 14 before the election.

     
  • posted at 8:55 am on Thu, Sep 25, 2008.

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    Len: I forgot to ask you about all those sweetheart loans your Dem buddies in Congress got from Countrywide? Were those just "contributions?"

     
  • posted at 8:20 am on Thu, Sep 25, 2008.

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    I don't hunt but I do like to put holes in paper plates.There's an indoor range 5 minutes from my house.

     
  • posted at 8:07 am on Thu, Sep 25, 2008.

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    Leonard, Bush, McCain, and Obama are meeting. If you want to watch it, might I suggest FOXNEWS... Ha Ha Ha....

     
  • posted at 8:04 am on Thu, Sep 25, 2008.

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    Leonard, Texas is great! I have been there a couple of times and I loved it. If you hunt, it is even better.

     
  • posted at 7:45 am on Thu, Sep 25, 2008.

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    Falcon, I was born and bred in Lodi but I now live deep in the heart of Texas.

     
  • posted at 7:45 am on Thu, Sep 25, 2008.

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    The idea that we are somehow obligated to people that we don't even know just because of some genetic tie is absurd.My cousin's Dad abandoned his mother when he was two and fathered a whole new family on the East Coast. Mike has never met his half siblings but if someone were to tell me that he was now obligated to provide for them I would tell them that they were cracked.As for Obama's speech, you are clearly unfamiliar with the concept of a metaphor.

     
  • posted at 7:36 am on Thu, Sep 25, 2008.

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    Leonard, are you in Texas or do you live in Lodi?

     
  • posted at 7:33 am on Thu, Sep 25, 2008.

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    The text of the keynote address by Barack Obama, Democratic U.S. Senate candidate from Illinois, as prepared for delivery at the Democratic National Convention in Boston: "It's that fundamental belief I am my brother's keeper, I am my sister's keeper that makes this country work. It's what allows us to pursue our individual dreams, yet still come together as a single American family. "E pluribus unum." Out of many, one."Barack said that he is his brothers keeper. I dont expect you to be his brothers keeper.

     
  • posted at 7:25 am on Thu, Sep 25, 2008.

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    Leonard, If Bush is such an idiot, explain this:http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2008/09/bush-called-for-reform-of-fannie-mae.html

     
  • posted at 7:25 am on Thu, Sep 25, 2008.

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    Falcon, I am not Obama's brother's keeper and neither is Obama.I don't know how much obligation a man has to a half brother that he never knew by a father that abandoned him as a child.Not much, I would think.If Sean Hannity, himself the beneficiary of the ACLU's charity, wants to start helping out poor Africans, more power to him.Charity is good for the soul and I would say that Hannity needs all the help he can get in that department.

     
  • posted at 7:15 am on Thu, Sep 25, 2008.

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    falcon wrote this morning "" Leonard, What about Obama's brother that lives in the shanty? Hannity has offered to send him 10G's if Obama will tell him where he is. Ha Ha Ha ... "Leonard answer ????????? SILENCE

     
  • posted at 7:05 am on Thu, Sep 25, 2008.

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    Let's face the music it, Len: Nobody wanted the party to end, NOBODY!

     
  • posted at 6:58 am on Thu, Sep 25, 2008.

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    Lenny, you make me laugh. You seem like an intelligent guy. Do you really believe Dems had no part in this mess or are you just pulling all of our legs? Here we go again: Chevys v. Fords.

     
  • posted at 6:38 am on Thu, Sep 25, 2008.

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    If you want to take Bill Clinton down along with them, by all means, be my guest.

     
  • posted at 6:38 am on Thu, Sep 25, 2008.

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    dyan wrote on Sep 25, 2008 11:35 AM:" Of course, Congress makes the rules, but we'll just ignore any facts that change the picture from what we already believe. Fords good. Chevys bad. Chevys bad. Fords good. And you question my reasoning?What reasoning. All I see is self serving babble.McCain and his cronies passed the laws that made this catastrophe possible.The time has come for them to be held accountable.

     
  • posted at 6:35 am on Thu, Sep 25, 2008.

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    Of course, Congress makes the rules, but we'll just ignore any facts that change the picture from what we already believe. Fords good. Chevys bad. Chevys bad. Fords good. And you question my reasoning? LOL

     
  • posted at 6:11 am on Thu, Sep 25, 2008.

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    Dyan, the big problem with the economy isn't the bad loans per se its the system that allowed those mortgages to be mixed with good mortgages and then sold as securities.That innovation can be traced directly to the banking deregulation legislation that Phil Graham and his good buddy John McCain pushed through the Republican Congress in the late 80's.Perhaps if you tried to learn something about a subject before commenting on it you would be happier with the outcome of your comments.

     
  • posted at 5:38 am on Thu, Sep 25, 2008.

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    Of course, the economy sliding couldn't have anything to do with Clinton and his boys forcing Fannie and Freddie to give loans to people who couldn't afford them in the name of "diversity" -right? (LOL)

     
  • posted at 4:57 am on Thu, Sep 25, 2008.

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    dyan wrote on Sep 25, 2008 9:28 AM:" Hey, you "pro-choice" Palin-hating crybabies. Bush was "pro-life." Did anything change in eight years?Well, the economy tanked for one thing. I think that had more to do with the fact that Bush is an idiot than the fact that he is against abortion but given Palin's stunning displays of mental gymnastics.... it might well be relevant.

     
  • posted at 4:46 am on Thu, Sep 25, 2008.

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    Lodian: "What we have here is a failure to communicate." Why should I care if liberal women choose to self-destruct via their own narcissism and compelling need to compete with men?

     
  • posted at 4:28 am on Thu, Sep 25, 2008.

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    Hey, you "pro-choice" Palin-hating crybabies. Bush was "pro-life." Did anything change in eight years? No, I didn't think so. What's the difference between a Republican and a Democrat once he or she is elected to office?________ That's what I thought.

     
  • posted at 3:37 am on Thu, Sep 25, 2008.

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    So, is anyone out there still trying to pretend that the Bush Presidency has been anything other than a complete and utter disaster?

     
  • posted at 3:09 am on Thu, Sep 25, 2008.

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    Ivan wrote: What Hannity should do is pressure the government of Kenya to give tax cuts to their upper class so that the wealth can trickle down onto Obama's brother. "-That's not a bad idea. Obama would never do that either. He doesn't believe in trickle down economics.Last time I heard he believes in wealth redistribution. That's socialism.

     
  • posted at 3:04 am on Thu, Sep 25, 2008.

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    Leonard, nothing is concrete that McCain won't debate Obama tomorrow.There are reports that if this bailout doesn't go through by Monday the Dow could drop twenty to thirty percent.McCain has again put his country first all the while Obama is more concerned about a debate.In my opinion, McCain is doing the right thing. I'm sorry you don't consider the state of the nation's economy very significant given how much money you have lost in the markets lately.

     
  • posted at 2:49 am on Thu, Sep 25, 2008.

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    falcon wrote on Sep 25, 2008 7:23 AM:" Leonard, What about Obama's brother that lives in the shanty? Hannity has offered to send him 10G's if Obama will tell him where he is. Ha Ha Ha ... "Hand outs are not the answer!What Hannity should do is pressure the government of Kenya to give tax cuts to their upper class so that the wealth can trickle down onto Obama's brother.

     
  • posted at 2:23 am on Thu, Sep 25, 2008.

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    Leonard, What about Obama's brother that lives in the shanty? Hannity has offered to send him 10G's if Obama will tell him where he is. Ha Ha Ha ...

     
  • posted at 2:19 am on Thu, Sep 25, 2008.

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    Nothing like an early morning political fight to get your blood moving. Ha Ha.

     
  • posted at 2:14 am on Thu, Sep 25, 2008.

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    Brian wrote on Sep 25, 2008 5:46 AM:" McCain will have first hand knowledge of the financial crisis to take into the debates with him on Friday.Again Brian, do you even follow the news?McCain has refused to debate Obama on Friday night. He is demanding an indefinite postponement on all of the debates.McCain knows that if he is debates Obama on the economy his campaign will be done for.

     
  • posted at 2:12 am on Thu, Sep 25, 2008.

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    Brian wrote on Sep 25, 2008 5:26 AM:Chuckle, McCain is taking a leadership position by postponing his campaign so he can address this financial crisis.The only crisis McCain is addressing is the crisis in his poll numbers. Every time he opens his mouth in public, his polls drop another point. The American people deserve to hear the issues surrounding this catastrophe debated in an open forum. These decisions should not be made behind closed doors in some Whitehouse basement.

     
  • posted at 12:46 am on Thu, Sep 25, 2008.

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    McCain will have first hand knowledge of the financial crisis to take into the debates with him on Friday. And Obama, well, his inadequecies and his inability to speak without a teleprompter will make for an interesting night.Looks to me Obama will go down in flames. The Chicago Machine's frontmanshould take a closer look at himself when it comes to running for the highest office in the country. If he is unable to articulate himself in a debate what else is he unable to do?

     
  • posted at 12:26 am on Thu, Sep 25, 2008.

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    Like the rest of McCain's supporters, you are simply grasping at straws as Obama pulls into a double digit lead and McCain fades into irrelevance. "Chuckle, McCain is taking a leadership position by postponing his campaign so he can address this financial crisis.Leonard, what motivates you to vote for a man who didn't have any interest in reform for Fannie and Freddie and nowdoesn't have a clue about what's going on now with the financial crisis?

     
  • posted at 12:11 am on Thu, Sep 25, 2008.

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    In any case, while we might question the rate that these and other executives were compensated at, there is a significant difference between receiving a salary for acting as a CEO and receiving hundreds of thousands of dollars for.....doing nothing.

     
  • posted at 11:59 pm on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    Brian wrote on Sep 24, 2008 10:25 PM:Johnson earned $21 million in just his last year serving as Fannie Mae CEO from 1991 to 1998; Raines earned $90 million in his five years as Fannie Mae CEO, from 1999 to 2004; and Gorelick earned an estimated $26 million serving as vice chair of Fannie Mae from 1998 to 2003, according to author David Frum, a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute.I am confused Brian. All of these people were employed by Fannie Mae but I don't see any evidence that any of them are currently employed by Barack Obama. Yes, they are all Democrats, but as I noted earlier, Timothy McVeigh was a registered Republican but that doesn't mean that he was on the McCain payroll.Like the rest of McCain's supporters, you are simply grasping at straws as Obama pulls into a double digit lead and McCain fades into irrelevance.

     
  • posted at 5:41 pm on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    The latest humdinger from OBAMA is his lack of compassion for his half brother George in Kenya. He lives in a small wood hut and lives off less than 100 dollars a year. Obama won't lift a finger to help him or send him money.So, some people from the Republican party have set up a fund to get him the money he needs to attend mechanics school. If this was a half brother of McCain it would be front page news. Ah the double standards of the liberal media.

     
  • posted at 5:29 pm on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    I suspect you'd want to spend millions to investigate the 130K that Davis got and brush off the millions the three libs got as money well earned.

     
  • posted at 5:25 pm on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    Leonard, trying to parallel the MILLIONS of dollars these 3 libs got from Fannie and Freddie to a mere 130K that Davis got is insane. Your delusions trouble me.Brian wrote on Sep 24, 2008 6:25 AM:" Cont.Johnson earned $21 million in just his last year serving as Fannie Mae CEO from 1991 to 1998; Raines earned $90 million in his five years as Fannie Mae CEO, from 1999 to 2004; and Gorelick earned an estimated $26 million serving as vice chair of Fannie Mae from 1998 to 2003, according to author David Frum, a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute.All three have been involved in mortgage-related financial scandals. "Report AbuseBrian wrote on Sep 24, 2008 6:18 AM:" Cont.In the aftermath of the U.S. government takeover, attention has focused on three Democrats with close ties to Obama who served as Fannie Mae executives: Franklin Raines, former Clinton administration budget director; James Johnson, former aide to Democratic Vice President Walter Mondale; and Jamie Gorelick, former Clinton administration deputy attorney general.All three Obama-related executives earned millions in compensation from Fannie Mae. "

     
  • posted at 5:20 pm on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    Leonard, Your definately in one of those moods where you don't know what you are writing. When you get in a moodthat you can stay on the same page as me let me know. See you.

     
  • posted at 3:26 pm on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    dyan wrote "Lodian: And your point is...?"dyan: Habla English?Questions were posed to you and you were asked to back up your remarks regarding your enjoyment that any liberal might have an abortion. Do you need me to rephrase the questions?

     
  • posted at 2:48 pm on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    Brian wrote on Sep 24, 2008 5:20 PM:Yes, of course, liberals tend to not visit realclearpolitics.com, townhall.com, the heritage foundation, worldnetdaily.com,humanevents.com, pajamasmedia.org. These sites being shady, well if shedding light on subjects is your interpretation of shady, then that's your perogative.Did one of them allege that John McCain personally took a bribe?

     
  • posted at 2:46 pm on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    Brian wrote on Sep 24, 2008 3:31 PM:" Leonard,Now you're changing your position.No, you are just lying about my position. I challenge you to show a single post on this blog where I said that John McCain took a bribe.The record is right here for all to see Brian. Either show me where I said that or apologize for misrepresenting my position.

     
  • posted at 2:33 pm on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    Lodian: And your point is...?

     
  • posted at 12:20 pm on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    Leonard wrote: You of course visit a myriad of shady sites that I tend to avoid.Yes, of course, liberals tend to not visit realclearpolitics.com, townhall.com, the heritage foundation, worldnetdaily.com,humanevents.com, pajamasmedia.org. These sites being shady, well if shedding light on subjects is your interpretation of shady, then that's your perogative.Oh, I learned a lot from the Republican platform site. Thanks.I still haven't found the version you read. Did it have a camp Obama seal of approval on it?

     
  • posted at 10:31 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    Leonard,Now you're changing your position.You're as big a waffler as your messiah Obama.And then you wonder why i don't take you seriously.Are you in one of those moods where you don't realize what you are writing down?

     
  • posted at 10:11 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    Brian: Perhaps I should have said that I haven't seen any substantiated claims that McCain accepted bribes.You of course visit a myriad of shady sites that I tend to avoid.Are you saying that you have seen serious accusations that McCain himself has taken bribes?If so, can you please post links to the source? I, of course, would be quite interested to see any such claims, if they were substantiated with hard evidence.

     
  • posted at 9:36 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    Brian wrote on Sep 24, 2008 2:28 PM:" Leonard, your fantasy that only McCain accepted bribe is a symptom of your delusions of grandeur.Good God, Brian... do you follow the news at all?No one is accusing McCain of taking a bribe. It is his campaign manager who was on the Freddie Mac payroll to the tune of $130,000 a year.As far as Obama goes, I can only note that you still have not proven that you have never had sex with a labrador retriever.

     
  • posted at 9:34 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    dyan: Again, I will respond to your many comments on the subject of abortion. Will you run off and not respond again? Face the music lady!After reading all of your comments. You were quite thrilled in thinking women, whom you see as liberals, would abort and therefore (as you see it) more liberal women would not exist. Was that your sick twisted humor or are you just crazy? And what do you consider "man's game"?Back up what you said dyan! ...

     
  • posted at 9:29 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    dyan: Let's review your comments on abortion and your enthusiastic support of liberal women's abortions as well as your insistence that only liberal women get abortions (maybe you also think there are no gay Republicans?). Here we go...dyan wrote on Sep 19, 2008 7:40 PM: "Actually, Len you are wrong about my views. I SUPPORT abortion. Why? Because most people who get abortions are white liberal women. This means they will wipe themselves out in less than 50 years."dyan wrote on Sep 20, 2008 8:21 AM: "Baby killing will continue and liberal women will continue to depopulate themselves."dyan wrote on Sep 20, 2008 8:26 AM: "If they "choose" to depopulate themselves, so be it."dyan wrote on Sep 20, 2008 8:56 AM: "Hey Voter: It sure ain't the conservative women getting those baby drains LOL!"dyan wrote on Sep 20, 2008 4:57 PM: "Of course, as a typical liberal, you totally missed my point. I'm not talking about the "death" of women. I'm talking about liberal women who will eventually eliminate their "species" because they'd rather play the man's game instead of procreate."continued...

     
  • posted at 9:28 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    Leonard, your fantasy that only McCain accepted bribe is a symptom of your delusions of grandeur. You're not always right as you depict yourself to be. What else has volunteering for camp Obama done to you to contribute to your delusions of grandeur?

     
  • posted at 9:26 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    dyan wrote on Sep 24, 2008 1:57 PM:" Leonard: Do you believe everything you read on the Dem blogs? The McCain Committee has denied the accusationActually, the McCain Campaign has not denied that their Campaign Manager received $130,000 dollars a year in payment from Freddie Mac, they have simply denied that he was registered as a lobbyist for the company.

     
  • posted at 9:25 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    Leonardm wrote:I might as well ask you to prove that you have never had sex with a Labrador Retriever. Sure, there isn't any evidence what so ever that you have had sex with a Labrador Retriever but can you prove that you haven't? "Lodian, you are allowing Leonard to make childish remarks without criticizmyet you won't tolerate mine.Are you married to Leonard? LOL

     
  • posted at 8:57 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    Leonard: Do you believe everything you read on the Dem blogs? The McCain Committee has denied the accusation. But then, the Dems haven't cared about the truth since the days of Truman. The end justifies the means. Dems always "good." GOP always "bad." These blogs are just another version of Ford v. Chevys.

     
  • posted at 8:52 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    Lodian: What are you talking about with this "run" stuff?

     
  • posted at 8:37 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    dyan: Are you married to Brian? LOL!

     
  • posted at 8:36 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    dyan: You made the nasty comments and now you run from the responses. Run run run! You won't address the responses because you know you were wrong to post such a thing in the first place. Grow up!

     
  • posted at 7:14 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    In my mind, there is a distinction to be made between a campaign contribution and a bribe.It has something to do with the concept of the law. After 8 years of the Bush Administration, the law may not mean much to Republicans but, isn't that really just another reason why we should give their buts the boot?

     
  • posted at 7:05 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    Yes, Lodian. I'm back. I should care if liberal women want to exterminate themselves?

     
  • posted at 7:03 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    Leonard: Get off of it. Your guy Obama took over 100 G's in campaign donations from Freddie. Quit trying to play Dems are the pure ones. Shall we get into W. Jefferson, B. Frank, N. Pelosi, H. Reid?? How about the purity of the Clintons, or even Obama for that matter?

     
  • posted at 6:55 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    How does Palin stand on illegal immigration? Instead of working on overturning Roe v. Wade and an ammendment to the Constitution banning gay marriage, let's work on the anchor baby amendment. Insteresting article in the Record today. Illegal mother sent back to Mexico, has 4 young children. Well, she tried 5 times to get into the country illegally. I want a ban on anchor babies. If you're not here legally, then your babies cannot be citizens and soak up services. That's something that really needs to happen. That affects us all. Talk about taxes.

     
  • posted at 6:13 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    All of this is an example of a concept that Brian seems to be completely incapable of comprehending:The Fallacy of Negative ProofApparently, some of the basic building blocks of logic are simply too much for our right wing friend to grasp.

     
  • posted at 6:09 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    Just so that we are all clear here, I am in no way suggesting that Brian has had sex with a Labrador Retriever.I am simply noting that he can't prove that he hasn't.

     
  • posted at 6:08 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    Brian wrote on Sep 24, 2008 10:09 AM:Leonard, if you feel comfortable presenting your case to the courts that Obama did not accept any bribes then by all means present it.In the absence of any evidence that he did, why would I possibly need to make such a case.I might as well ask you to prove that you have never had sex with a Labrador Retriever. Sure, there isn't any evidence what so ever that you have had sex with a Labrador Retriever but can you prove that you haven't?

     
  • posted at 5:09 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    What, specifically are you talking about? While almost all of the politicians in Washington on both sides of the aisles received campaign contributions from the mortgage industry I am not aware of any allegations that Obama's employees took bribes from these companies. "Leonard, if you feel comfortable presenting your case to the courts that Obama did not accept any bribes then by all means present it. Just because you are not aware of of any allegations does not make it true. You're making a stretch.

     
  • posted at 3:51 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    Brian wrote on Sep 24, 2008 8:49 AM:" 15,000 a month dollars pales in comparison to what the Obama campaign gotWhat, specifically are you talking about? While almost all of the politicians in Washington on both sides of the aisles received campaign contributions from the mortgage industry I am not aware of any allegations that Obama's employees took bribes from these companies.

     
  • posted at 3:49 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    Brian wrote on Sep 24, 2008 8:46 AM:" It seems to me all this sleeze started in the Democratic partyChuckle.... its the Democrats fault that McCain's campaign manager was taking bribes.I would say that is definitely a stretch.

     
  • posted at 3:49 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    15,000 a month dollars pales in comparison to what the Obama campaign got. What part of that don't you understand?

     
  • posted at 3:46 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    It seems to me all this sleeze started in the Democratic party and some of it has worked it's way into the Republican party. McCain tried to knip in on the bud, but it was too late. At least he tried. Obama just tried to sweep it under the rug.

     
  • posted at 3:46 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    Brian wrote on Sep 24, 2008 8:42 AM:-You don't have any evidence to back this up. Just conjecture.Well Brian, I would like to give you the opportunity to go on the record here.Are you saying that McCain's campaign manager was not paid $15,000 a month by Freddie Mac?

     
  • posted at 3:42 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    Leonard wrote; Has Obama's campaign manager been taking bribes from the mortgage industry?-You don't have any evidence to back this up. Just conjecture.What part of "Obama didn't lift a hand to avert the crisis" don't you understand??

     
  • posted at 3:37 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    Brian wrote on Sep 24, 2008 8:26 AM:-Let's be fair, Obama is no angel either as the halo on his plane wants to depict. Has Obama's campaign manager been taking bribes from the mortgage industry?You don't seem to get the magnitude of this Brian. This is the Number 2 man in the McCain campaign and he is dirty with money from the very people who got us into this mess.

     
  • posted at 3:26 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    Leonard wrote: I don't think this issue is going to go away. For a man who once claimed to be on the "Straight Talk Express" the scandals just keep on piling up around John McCain like snow drifts around a local hockey palace built with federal earmarks. "-Let's be fair, Obama is no angel either as the halo on his plane wants to depict.

     
  • posted at 3:23 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    Leonard, You really should look into realclearpolitics.com more often.I find their collection of articles from various sources informative. They aren't always slanted in only one direction. pajamasmedia is good too.

     
  • posted at 3:20 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    Brian wrote on Sep 24, 2008 8:06 AM:" Leonard, One thing we can agree on. Dems and Reps both accept bribes. Let's leave it at that.I don't think this issue is going to go away. For a man who once claimed to be on the "Straight Talk Express" the scandals just keep on piling up around John McCain like snow drifts around a local hockey palace built with federal earmarks.

     
  • posted at 3:13 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    I'll be glad when this elections over.That doesn't mean I won't find something else to get writers cramp from. I would like to interject that I don't know where Biden is going when he said that there should be no more coal plants built in America because the Chinese are already polluting the atmosphere with theirs.It seems to me he isn't aware of the technology that can burn coal cleaner and we should influence the Chinese to build theirs that way.But no, he wants to deny us clean burning coal plants because the Chinese can't get their act together.

     
  • posted at 3:06 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    Leonard, One thing we can agree on. Dems and Reps both accept bribes. Let's leave it at that.You and I have the ability to go on all day about who got the bigger cookie.:)

     
  • posted at 3:00 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    Brian wrote on Sep 24, 2008 7:58 AM:However, it seems the Obama camp has benefitted the most from campagn contributions from Freddie and Fannie and they aren't looking back. The McCain camp, on the other hand, has benefitted most from what it is beginning to look like were out right bribes.

     
  • posted at 2:58 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    Leonard, I wrote: To be fair, Dems. and Reps. both are in deep s#$t on this matter. However, it seems the Obama camp has benefitted the most from campagn contributions from Freddie and Fannie and they aren't looking back. "-I'm not trying to spin my way out of this. However, at least McCain called for reform. Do you have some evidence from your crystal ball that he did not call for reform. :)

     
  • posted at 2:48 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    Leonard, Yes this article is about Palin. After I have expose Obama's MUCH BIGGER ties to Freddie and Fannie I suppose we can go back to commenting about the article.However, it is true that McCain called for reform and Obama didn't lift a hand.Your interpretation of "a fool" is rather different than mine.It seems to me Obama's pocketbook was his best interest and the future of this country was McCain's best interest.That being said, One could conclude that McCain was foolish not to keep his mouth shut if he wanted to be as greedy as Obama.

     
  • posted at 2:29 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    I think it is interesting to note that, after her meetings at the United Nations, Sarah Palin now has exactly 1 hour and 48 minutes of Foreign Policy experience.LOL!

     
  • posted at 2:27 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    Chuckle.... so now, anyone who has ever registered as a Democrat is an "Obama crony".By that logic, Timothy McVeigh was a "McCain crony".Brian, the facts are the facts. The McCain campaign has been caught with their hand deep in the cookie jar.If they were smart, they would just admit that the screwed up badly and beg the public's forgiveness.Your attempts to spin your way out of this simply cast you as an even bigger fool.

     
  • posted at 2:05 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=I%27m+not+surprised+Obama+didn%27t+lift+a+hand+to+avert+the+crisis.&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=When I googled "I'm not surprised Obama didn't lift a hand to avert the crisis"this is what came up. Quite revealing.

     
  • posted at 1:58 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    And since Obama was a major recipient of campaign contributions from Freddie and Fannie, when McCain called for reform two years ago, I'm not surprised Obama didn't lift a hand to avert the crisis.

     
  • posted at 1:49 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    Someone that puts a higher premium on campaign contributions than protecting hardworking Americans is not someone I would vote for. Obama seems to be more interested in what he can bragg about than what's in the best interest of the country.

     
  • posted at 1:39 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    Personally, I would give Obama the benefit of the doubt and say that he is simply an incompetent GREEDY fool.Actually, I still haven't been able to attach a label to him yet. He CHANGES from day to day.

     
  • posted at 1:33 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    Davis's monthly check pales in comparison to what Obama's cronies got payed.To be fair, Dems. and Reps. both are in deep s#$t on this matter. However, it seems the Obama camp has benefitted the most from campagn contributions from Freddie and Fannie and they aren't looking back.

     
  • posted at 1:25 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    Cont.Johnson earned $21 million in just his last year serving as Fannie Mae CEO from 1991 to 1998; Raines earned $90 million in his five years as Fannie Mae CEO, from 1999 to 2004; and Gorelick earned an estimated $26 million serving as vice chair of Fannie Mae from 1998 to 2003, according to author David Frum, a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute.All three have been involved in mortgage-related financial scandals.

     
  • posted at 1:18 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    Cont.In the aftermath of the U.S. government takeover, attention has focused on three Democrats with close ties to Obama who served as Fannie Mae executives: Franklin Raines, former Clinton administration budget director; James Johnson, former aide to Democratic Vice President Walter Mondale; and Jamie Gorelick, former Clinton administration deputy attorney general.All three Obama-related executives earned millions in compensation from Fannie Mae.

     
  • posted at 1:16 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    http://messageboards.aol.com/aol/en_us/articles.php?boardId=440222&articleId=195795&func=6&channel=People+Connection&filterRead=true&filterHidden=true&filterUnhidden=falseInstead, Democrats in Congress have sought to preserve the quasi-governmental status of the mortgage giants, seeing Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as places to locate former top Democratic Party operatives, where they have earned millions in compensation, despite a continuing series of financial scandals. Enron-like accounting manipulation, for example, boosted earnings to a level at which massive executive bonuses could be paid.

     
  • posted at 12:23 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    Personally, I would give McCain the benefit of the doubt and say that he is simply an incompetent fool.Perhaps his campaign manager was vetted by the same crack team that came up with Sarah Palin.

     
  • posted at 12:23 am on Wed, Sep 24, 2008.

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    Brian wrote on Sep 23, 2008 8:20 PM:" Leonard, I should remind you that Fannie and Freddie were the brainchild of the Democrats. The scandal is so immense. Hmmm... But it's John McCain's campaign manager who's been taking 15k a month from Freddie Mac for years.All of this raises the following question.Was McCain knowingly lying on Sunday when he said that Davis had not had any involvement with the company for years or is he such a bad manager that he didn't know that his principle aide was on the take from a major player in THE BIGGEST crisis to hit the US economy in 60 years?Liar or incompetent fool?Hard to know which label truly describes John McCain.

     
  • posted at 7:46 pm on Tue, Sep 23, 2008.

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    Brian wrote on Sep 23, 2008 8:14 PM:" Lodian, this is why I have no patience for you."Oh, Brian. You have been shown waaaaay too much patience here by many a blogger! Stop trying to act like some "big dog". You're just embarrassing yourself.

     
  • posted at 7:42 pm on Tue, Sep 23, 2008.

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    Brian: So, I guess you think it's not revealing of a presidential candidate when he sings "Bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iran"? And then he chuckles?? War is a serious matter and for someone of McCain's position to make light fun of bombing Iran is incredibly twisted! The very serious issues other Republican's bring up about McCain are very telling. McCain is not the man he used to be. I think you are looking for the man that McCain used to be many years ago. He's just not there anymore, Brian. And I don't want some hot-head with his finger on the button, nor do I want this Alaska First yahoo answering the phone at 3:00am!

     
  • posted at 3:39 pm on Tue, Sep 23, 2008.

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    Lodian, do you support the propaganda that came out of Ahmadenijad's mouth today at the UN since you have issues with McCain saying we should bomb Iran?

     
  • posted at 3:30 pm on Tue, Sep 23, 2008.

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    Lodian, and the bomb Iran remark by McCain? It seems to me you have no idea Iran has been fighting a proxy war with us in Iraq. They supply weapons to the insurgents there. Iran also supplies weapons to Hezbollah. If Iran does get a nuclear weapon they may give it to a terrorist group to use against the U.S. and our interests. But you have symapthy for Ahmadinejad because he plays the victim so well like you and your liberal cronies.

     
  • posted at 3:20 pm on Tue, Sep 23, 2008.

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    Leonard, I should remind you that Fannie and Freddie were the brainchild of the Democrats. The scandal is so immense.

     
  • posted at 3:14 pm on Tue, Sep 23, 2008.

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    Lodian, this is why I have no patience for you. The soundbite of McCain saying we should stay in Iraq for 100 years can easliy be explained by the fact that we still have bases in Japan, S. Korea, Germany. That's all. To say that John McCain would want the war to continue in Iraq for 100 years is beyond STUPID and just goes to show how desperate liberals are to discredit him.

     
  • posted at 3:08 pm on Tue, Sep 23, 2008.

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    Lodian wrote on Sep 23, 2008 6:52 PM:" ...Brian: You should watch this video. It's one of many that show how very dedicated Republicans do not want McCain to be the next President. And for very good reasons.-Chuckle, Wesley Clark is a left wing hack. Scot Ritter is a mouthpiece for the anti-war crowd. All this video is isthings taken out of context. The talikng points on this video are old news.Please don't bore me with this out of date stuff.

     
  • posted at 2:42 pm on Tue, Sep 23, 2008.

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    IAM A REPUBLICAN AND I HAVE BEEN ALL MY LIFE BUT FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE I WILL BE VOTING DEMOCRATIC I WAS REALLY INSULTED WHEN THEY THROW OUT A WOMEN A VERY HORRIBLE AND STUPID WOMEN AND CALL HER A QUALIFIED PERSON TO BE SECOND IN COMMAND JOHN MCCAIN THINKS WERE THAT DUMB THIS A TOTALLY POLITICAL MOVE AND ITS OBVIOUS THAT PEOPLE IN LODI ARE THAT DUMB JUST LOOK BELOW SHE RAISED TAXES BY 62% IN THAT SMALL TOWN AND SO ON AND SO. I WAS A OIL MAN BECAUSE SHE IS IN BED WITH ALL OF THEM AND IF YOU THINK DIFFERANT YOU ARE THE PEOPLE THERE LOOKING FOR!

     
  • posted at 1:59 pm on Tue, Sep 23, 2008.

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    dyan: I see that you are back. Here is my response to your earlier comments regarding your delight in liberal women having abortions. Might you be addressing my comments any time soon? I will repost my response/questions here... You were delighted in thinking women, whom you see as liberals, would abort and therefore (as you see it) more liberal women would not exist. Or was that simply your sick humor? And what do you consider the "man's game"?

     
  • posted at 1:52 pm on Tue, Sep 23, 2008.

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    ...Brian: You should watch this video. It's one of many that show how very dedicated Republicans do not want McCain to be the next President. And for very good reasons."Republicans and military men on John McCain" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdJUCU1UH2w ...

     
  • posted at 6:49 am on Tue, Sep 23, 2008.

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    You're right, Leonard. It's time we had some Democrat corruption for a change!

     
  • posted at 2:23 am on Tue, Sep 23, 2008.

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    Lodian wrote on Sep 22, 2008 10:30 AM:" Brian wrote "Lodian, FYI, There are reports of even the most loyal followers of Obama starting to get cold feet."Brian: You do know that there are McCain supporters that RAN off when Palin hit the scene. "-If less than 1 percent is significant to you. Here's another lie from Obama: He stated that McCain was for the complete privatization of social security. Yet McCain only called for a small percentage of social security taxes that people could invest to their liking.http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obamas_social_security_whopper.htmlThere are so many lies the Obama camp have out there it's hard to keep up.They are counting on a voting base that does not fact check to win the election.If this is any indication to what Obama will do as President we're in for a world of trouble.

     
  • posted at 5:33 am on Mon, Sep 22, 2008.

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    McCain is not the president we need right now."Republicans and military men on John McCain" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdJUCU1UH2w

     
  • posted at 5:30 am on Mon, Sep 22, 2008.

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    Brian wrote "Lodian, FYI, There are reports of even the most loyal followers of Obama starting to get cold feet."Brian: You do know that there are McCain supporters that RAN off when Palin hit the scene.

     
  • posted at 4:50 am on Mon, Sep 22, 2008.

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    Remember, Brian, use your own words. No plagiarizing today.

     
  • posted at 4:49 am on Mon, Sep 22, 2008.

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    Brian wrote "we need someone with experience and not Rock Star status."Yes, that's why one should not appreciate McCain choosing Palin as his running mate. Palin was trotted out on stage, hoping to achieve that "Rock Star" status. Palin may be the lipstick on the McCain/Palin ticket, but that "make-up" is fading fast. We've learned a lot about this "Alaska-First" supporter in the last few weeks and it's not good news. And all of this reflects badly on old man McCain.

     
  • posted at 3:20 am on Mon, Sep 22, 2008.

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    Brian wrote on Sep 22, 2008 7:39 AM:" Lodian, FYI, There are reports of even the most loyal followers of Obama starting to get cold feet. Moderate and conservative Democrats may end up voting for McCain at the last minute knowing that in the times we are in we need someone with experience and not Rock Star status.McCain's primary economic experience comes from his role in creating this mess in the first place.People are sick of Republican corruption and the polls show it.You say "Four More Years"?I say NO MORE YEARS!!!!

     
  • posted at 2:49 am on Mon, Sep 22, 2008.

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    Voter wrote: Most of us are more comfortable speaking for ourselves and giving credit where it is due. "-Please don't remind me of how everything that comes out of Leonard's mouth you and Lodian consider gospel.

     
  • posted at 2:39 am on Mon, Sep 22, 2008.

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    Lodian, FYI, There are reports of even the most loyal followers of Obama starting to get cold feet. Moderate and conservative Democrats may end up voting for McCain at the last minute knowing that in the times we are in we need someone with experience and not Rock Star status.Lodian-Have you noticed you've had to wear thicker socks lately?

     
  • posted at 12:40 pm on Sun, Sep 21, 2008.

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    ...and a parrot!

     
  • posted at 12:38 pm on Sun, Sep 21, 2008.

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    Brian: It's not a "copy and paste" job when you post as if the words were your own, as you often do here, Brian. It's called plagiarism. I think you plagiarize so much here because you cannot argue in a debate with your own words. You need to dig up the words of some other nimrod to back you up. You're weak, Brian. You'd better educate yourself before those little darlings get to school. Are these lame excuses, for your plagiarism, what you will offer to your kid's teacher? Wow, you're not getting off on the right foot with the kiddies, Brian. Oh, and I wouldn't doubt your wife could hold a better conversation/debate that you. You don't pose much of a challenge, little man. Now, get your head out, read and respond with your own words after you've formed YOUR OWN opinion. Stop being such a follower.

     
  • posted at 12:29 pm on Sun, Sep 21, 2008.

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    Plagiarizing is copyright infringement. It is never acceptable. Beyond that, it is a sign of a lazy and/or poor communicator. Most of us are more comfortable speaking for ourselves and giving credit where it is due.

     
  • posted at 11:59 am on Sun, Sep 21, 2008.

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    Lodian, it is no big deal to most people on a BLOGG that someone copies and pastes. I do give credit most of the time to the author. Sometimes I forget. If you had an ounce of common sense you would realize that no one here is under any scrutiny or being graded. Like I said, lighten up!I get the impression you have way too much time on your hands. You remind me of a teacher I had who was always in a nasty mood. Are you one of those who can't set their paper grading aside and be somewhat of a positive contribution to their family without being such a sour puss?

     
  • posted at 11:49 am on Sun, Sep 21, 2008.

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    Lodian wrote on Sep 21, 2008 4:01 PM:" Brian: Do you really "...sit on your ass and blogg all day eating Dolly Madison in one hand and typing from tne other." ???Its funny watching Brian get all frustrated when he is backed into a corner. "-It's funnier when you have to resort to the thing children do when they don't have a comeback. Remember "You are"?I don't get frustrated the least bit from you. Next time my family and I are in Lodi you and your husband can meet my wife and I at Lyons. We'll see who can talk better smack in person. My wife and I are well versed at refuting things liberals spout out of their pie holes.

     
  • posted at 11:17 am on Sun, Sep 21, 2008.

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    Brian: You plagiarize daily and excuse it every single time as no big deal. There's a saying "The apple doesn't fall from the tree". Hopefully your kids will get better guidance from their mother.

     
  • posted at 11:12 am on Sun, Sep 21, 2008.

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    Brian wrote "It's high time your husband makes you work. You're annoying!"Oh, Brian, can't handle a woman takin' you down? (chuckle)What makes you have the slightest idea that I don't work? LOL! It sounds like you are feeling guilty about all the hard work your wife does while you have fun plagiarizing yourself on a news blog.The LNS should pay all of us for exposing you as an ignorant plagiarizing fraud. That would add a bundle to our retirement. LOL!!!

     
  • posted at 11:01 am on Sun, Sep 21, 2008.

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    Brian: Do you really "...sit on your ass and blogg all day eating Dolly Madison in one hand and typing from tne other." ???Its funny watching Brian get all frustrated when he is backed into a corner.

     
  • posted at 9:00 am on Sun, Sep 21, 2008.

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    Lodian Wrote: No, Brian, it is YOU that does not want the government involved. Only when YOU need assistance does it seem to be okay for the government to "help" YOU and everyone else be damned...right, Brian! You are a user, a poser and a thief of others (plagiarism). And on top of that, you're just not a very nice guy! Cuss anyone out lately, Brian? Lodian, There is no way that we can eliminate government programs. But to say that you would be in favor of government health ins. on the scale Obama wants amounts to a huge tax burden on the people. It's not going to be free. Wake up! Stop distorting what I say. It seems to me if you had it your way you would collect a big fat check from the government so you can sit on your ass and blogg all day eating Dolly Madison in one hand and typing from tne other.I've never collected unemployment, or been on welfare. It's high time your husband makes you work. You're annoying!

     
  • posted at 8:45 am on Sun, Sep 21, 2008.

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    Lodian wrote;" Brian wrote (in regards to his confessed plagiarism) "You do have nitpicking down to a T." Brian, is this what you will teach your children? Daddy says it's okay to pass off someone else's work as your own so don't go by the rules, or go by what the teacher says, and do as daddy tells you... "Just plagiarize when you can't think for yourself...it's okay! Is that big fat "L" getting bigger on your forehead every time you post? Geez, Brian, your explanations for your ignorant behavior gets more and more "out there" by the day. Time to grow up little man and be a big boy. "-Chuckle, Now Lodian is accusing me of allowing my kids to plagarize their school work. Lighten up Lodian! This is only a blogg.When my kids do start attending school they won't be going to a school where they put condoms on a cucumber or issue them books called "Heather has two mommies".L- You are probably a proponent of Folsom Street Faire in SF where the police have to stand by and watch men get blowjobs?

     
  • posted at 7:52 am on Sun, Sep 21, 2008.

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    Missing in Alaska.

     
  • posted at 7:52 am on Sun, Sep 21, 2008.

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    Looks like dyan is MIA.

     
  • posted at 7:51 am on Sun, Sep 21, 2008.

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    Leonard wrote "I knew Brian was obsessed with me but now he has gone and tattooed a "L" on his forehead????This has gone too far!"I know! I know! Brian is a nut!

     
  • posted at 7:49 am on Sun, Sep 21, 2008.

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    Brian wrote "I doubt if the premise of the AIP is to have God Damn America"Well, Brian, you say you "doubt" it so therefore you are not sure. Educate yourself. You even posted the AIP link! Did you even read through the site? Even a little? Let me assure you that the AIP is not about "Country First"...far from it. This "Alaska First" ideal is held by the AIP and it's members. The Palins support this party and Mr. Palin was on the official members list while Sarah Palin attended conferences and posted videos of welcome and well wishes to the AIP. Palin, and her "Alaska First" ideals are not something I can support and this is not someone that should be the VP of the US. Shame on McCain for allowing such a person on this ticket, but then again, McCain is no longer the outspoken maverick he used to be. He's far from it now.

     
  • posted at 7:28 am on Sun, Sep 21, 2008.

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    Brian wrote "It seems to me you have a problem with people who have financial troubles that they may have to use government assistance."No, Brian, it is YOU that does not want the government involved. Only when YOU need assistance does it seem to be okay for the government to "help" YOU and everyone else be damned...right, Brian! You are a user, a poser and a thief of others (plagiarism). And on top of that, you're just not a very nice guy! Cuss anyone out lately, Brian?

     
  • posted at 7:24 am on Sun, Sep 21, 2008.

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    Lodian wrote on Sep 21, 2008 12:19 PM: Is that big fat "L" getting bigger on your forehead every time you post?Well, that's that!I knew Brian was obsessed with me but now he has gone and tattooed a "L" on his forehead????This has gone too far!

     
  • posted at 7:22 am on Sun, Sep 21, 2008.

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    Brian wrote on Sep 21, 2008 11:44 AM:-The IRS tax code is 66,000 pages that not even the most capable accountant is able to digest.We need some changes to this current tax system. I doubt Obama wants to make any changes to it. Whether or not it is a fair tax, flat tax or a combination of the two, McCain will be the one to step up and have the courage to make these changes. But do you personally support the flat tax?

     
  • posted at 7:19 am on Sun, Sep 21, 2008.

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    Brian wrote (in regards to his confessed plagiarism) "You do have nitpicking down to a T."Well, Brian, is this what you will teach your children? Daddy says it's okay to pass off someone else's work as your own so don't go by the rules, or go by what the teacher says, and do as daddy tells you... "Just plagiarize when you can't think for yourself...it's okay! Is that big fat "L" getting bigger on your forehead every time you post? Geez, Brian, your explanations for your ignorant behavior gets more and more "out there" by the day. Time to grow up little man and be a big boy.

     
  • posted at 6:44 am on Sun, Sep 21, 2008.

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    Leonard wrote on Sep 21, 2008 10:21 AM:" Brian: You have suggested to me that one of the reasons why you support McCain is that you think he is likely to support a flat tax. Do you support replacing the current income tax system with a flat tax? -The IRS tax code is 66,000 pages that not even the most capable accountant is able to digest.We need some changes to this current tax system. I doubt Obama wants to make any changes to it. Whether or not it is a fair tax, flat tax or a combination of the two, McCain will be the one to step up and have the courage to make these changes.

     
  • posted at 5:34 am on Sun, Sep 21, 2008.

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    falcon wrote on Sep 21, 2008 10:31 AM:" Leonard, isn't the flat tax also called the fair tax?Indeed it is. The thought is that the flat tax would allow the government to close the loopholes that allow the rich to avoid paying any taxes.

     
  • posted at 5:32 am on Sun, Sep 21, 2008.

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    No, sorry, fair tax is a sales tax. Flat tax is an income tax.

     
  • posted at 5:32 am on Sun, Sep 21, 2008.

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    Brian wrote on Sep 21, 2008 9:21 AM:"I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions." -Joe VoeglerTo be clear, Joe Voegler was the founder of the Alaskan Independence Party. Joe Voegler was killed in 1993 while attempting to acquire illegal plastic explosives. He was buried in Canada because he had left a request in his will that he not be buried under the American flag.Another good quote, describing the AIP leaders feelings about America is the following:"The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government. And I won't be buried under their damn flag. I'll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home

     
  • posted at 5:31 am on Sun, Sep 21, 2008.

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    Leonard, isn't the flat tax also called the fair tax?

     
  • posted at 5:21 am on Sun, Sep 21, 2008.

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    Brian: You have suggested to me that one of the reasons why you support McCain is that you think he is likely to support a flat tax. Do you support replacing the current income tax system with a flat tax?

     
  • posted at 4:21 am on Sun, Sep 21, 2008.

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    -I doubt if the premise of the AIP is to have God Damn America as Rev. Wrightimplies in one of his sermons.http://www.akip.org/introduction.htmlAlaskan Independence PartyIntroductionThe following is the entry on the AIP in the University of California's Political Science Encyclopedia.It was not written by an AIP member and can be considered unbiased. "Political parties, both Republican and Democrat, dominate from Washington, D.C., and [don't] quite understand the political problems, or opportunities, in an arctic and subarctic country."Walter J. Hickel"I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions." Joe Vogler

     
  • posted at 3:49 am on Sun, Sep 21, 2008.

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    http://healthpolicyandmarket.blogspot.com/2008/03/detailed-analysis-of-barack-obamas.htmlObama is unique in calling for catastrophic reinsurance coverage in order to reduce the cost of family health insurance. Really, this is not a cost reduction but a cost shift. This idea, first proposed by Senator Kerry in his failed bid for the presidency, would have the federal government absorb a large portion of the highest cost claims thereby taking these costs out of the price of health insurance. That would reduce the price of family health insurance but would also increase federal spending by the same amount. It would also water down the incentive for insurers and employers to manage these claims since most of these costs would be transferred to the government.-The more I research this issue the more I cannot be a proponent of it.

     
  • posted at 3:32 am on Sun, Sep 21, 2008.

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    Ivan Wrote: Leonard writes. Brian copies. "He doesn't complain or nitpick.

     
  • posted at 3:30 am on Sun, Sep 21, 2008.

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    Lodian wrote on Sep 21, 2008 12:08 AM:" Brian wrote "My kids were born with government assistance. I never used it before."If your kids used it then that means YOU used it, as you are their father and made that choice. YOU are responsible for them. "- Yes I did make that choice. I am a good father. It seems to me you have a problem with people who have financial troubles that they may have to use government assistance. Sometimes it's a must. But to want to have total government assisted healthcare is a bereaucracy we don't nee. McCains plan is to reform the healthcare system in the private sector. It's going to have a bumps in the road, but in the long run it's much better than the BAND-AID of Obama. I don't have a double standard. Why YOU would want complete government control over our health insurance blows me away. You think hospitals will stop overcharging and double charging on billing statements?No, the fraud will get worse under government control. Take a look at the fraud in medicare.

     
  • posted at 3:26 am on Sun, Sep 21, 2008.

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    Brian wrote on Sep 21, 2008 8:21 AM:" Lodian, You're the only one who complains about my copying. Most of my posts are my own words. You're nitpicking. If you would look at the ones I copied you would find that it its contrary to what Leonard writes.Point to ponder.Leonard writes. Brian copies.

     
  • posted at 3:21 am on Sun, Sep 21, 2008.

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    Lodian, You're the only one who complains about my copying. Most of my posts are my own words. You're nitpicking. If you would look at the ones I copied you would find that it its contrary to what Leonard writes. I don't why you think you have any credibility when all you do is take Leonard's word as gospel when I've refuted it on many occasions. You never factcheck. You do have nitpicking down to a T.

     
  • posted at 7:12 pm on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    dyan: Why are avoiding my 6:21 PM questions? Let's try this again....dyan wrote "Of course, as a typical liberal, you totally missed my point. I'm not talking about the "death" of women. I'm talking about liberal women who will eventually eliminate their "species" because they'd rather play the man's game instead of procreate. "dyan: I disagree. I didn't miss your point, after reading several of your comments on this topic. You were delighted in thinking women, whom you see as liberals, would abort and therefore (as you see it) more liberal women would not exist. Or was that simply your sick humor? And what do you consider the "man's game"? "...

     
  • posted at 7:08 pm on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    Brian wrote "My kids were born with government assistance. I never used it before."If your kids used it then that means YOU used it, as you are their father and made that choice. YOU are responsible for them.

     
  • posted at 7:05 pm on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    Brian wrote "I do have a habit of copying and pasting. Call it plagerizing if you must."Brian: Yes, we all call it plagiarism.

     
  • posted at 7:02 pm on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    Brian wrote "No one cares if someone plagarizes here."Really, Brian? I disagree. It shows your character and sends your credibility right down the drain when in debate or conversation here. You have been caught on many occasions, and by many bloggers, plagiarizing the writings of others. You seem to have a difficult time articulating yourself most of the time, or maybe it's just when you've had a few drinks. Oh wait, silly me, it's the cussing that comes so easy to you when you drink.

     
  • posted at 3:36 pm on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    http://www.thehealthcareblog.com/the_health_care_blog/2008/07/doubtful-mccain.htmlLodian,Ivan, Leonard,voter:This link provides some good pros and cons of McCain's healthcare plan. His plan is quite convoluted. It's not at all just about higher taxes. Please be fair and read the whole article. I learned a lot from it. :)

     
  • posted at 3:24 pm on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    Lodian wrote on Sep 20, 2008 6:24 PM:" I'm surprised that Brian can't answer Ivan Dixon's question. Usually Brian can at least plagiarize his way to some sort of answer. "Lodian, actually if you were to look at my post at 11;37AM today you would see some of the reasons why McCain's plan would make health care and health ins. more affordable. He missed this as well as you.I do have a habit of copying and pasting. Call it plagerizing if you must. I don't rely on Leonard very much because he tends to distort things to fit his agenda. You, on the other hand consider his words gospel. Try to do some fact checking of your own and you'll also find that Leonard leaves out pertenent things about a given issue. Go ahead and plagarize, if it means we may all learn something from YOUR fact checking then it makes it all that much better here. No one cares if someone plagarizes here. It's a blogg. Lighten up!

     
  • posted at 3:06 pm on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    Voter wrote: You get free government healthcare and would not have to worry about it in any case. "-No I don't. I had to cancel my health insurance. My kids were born with government assistance. I never used it before.

     
  • posted at 2:32 pm on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    O.K. We have over 200 blogs on this subject. Has anyone's mind been changed?No? I didn't think so. Therefore, it's time for everyone to argue the opposite point of view. I'll start: Obama is a nice guy and should be president. Paylin doesn't like abortion and should not be V.P. We are all entitled to free healthcare. O.K. Who's next?

     
  • posted at 1:24 pm on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    I'm surprised that Brian can't answer Ivan Dixon's question. Usually Brian can at least plagiarize his way to some sort of answer.

     
  • posted at 1:21 pm on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    dyan wrote "Of course, as a typical liberal, you totally missed my point. I'm not talking about the "death" of women. I'm talking about liberal women who will eventually eliminate their "species" because they'd rather play the man's game instead of procreate. "dyan: I disagree. I didn't miss your point, after reading several of your comments on this topic. You were delighted in thinking women, whom you see as liberals, would abort and therefore (as you see it) more liberal women would not exist. Or was that simply your sick humor? And what do you consider "man's game"?

     
  • posted at 12:18 pm on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    While health care is always the buzzword during elections, mark my words, regardless of who is in office, it will NOT change.... the nature of health care is NOT to protect people, it is to make dollars...

     
  • posted at 11:57 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    Of course, as a typical liberal, you totally missed my point. I'm not talking about the "death" of women. I'm talking about liberal women who will eventually eliminate their "species" because they'd rather play the man's game instead of procreate.

     
  • posted at 11:50 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    Thank you, voter. I do my best to please.

     
  • posted at 10:47 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    Ivan Dixon wrote on Sep 20, 2008 12:01 PM:" Brian wrote on Sep 20, 2008 11:45 AM:-Healthcare and banking are very different. Your contention that deregulating the healthcare system will have similar outcomes as the banking deregulation is fundamentally falseProve it, Herr Doctor! -The proof will come when McCain is elected. He'll deregulate the healthcare system and your "chicken little" approach will mean nothing.

     
  • posted at 9:05 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    dyan wrote on Sep 19, 2008 7:40 PM: " Actually, Len you are wrong about my views. I SUPPORT abortion. Why? Because most people who get abortions are white liberal women. This means they will wipe themselves out in less than 50 years. "dyan: So, you are pro life? If so, it's really strange as you certainly enjoy talking about the death of women and their unborn children. In fact, your comments are rather sick and twisted....

     
  • posted at 7:01 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    Brian wrote on Sep 20, 2008 11:45 AM:-Healthcare and banking are very different. Your contention that deregulating the healthcare system will have similar outcomes as the banking deregulation is fundamentally falseProve it, Herr Doctor!

     
  • posted at 6:45 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    Ivan dixon wrote: Mr. Doctor may be too young to remember but this is exactly what they did with banks back in the 90s and this is exactly what has led to this dang nightmare we are all having now. -Healthcare and banking are very different. Your contention that deregulating the healthcare system will have similar outcomes as the banking deregulation is fundamentally false.

     
  • posted at 6:42 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    http://www.thehealthcareblog.com/the_health_care_blog/2008/07/doubtful-mccain.htmlThis site is where I posted from. From my perspective, McCain's health care plan may not be as bad as Leonard makes it ou to be.

     
  • posted at 6:39 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    Brian wrote on Sep 20, 2008 11:33 AM:" So, how effective would Senator McCain's plan be in making health care, and health insurance, affordable and better? Let's take a look at his very brief outline:Allowing people to buy health insurance nationwide instead of limiting them to in-state companies. Mr. Doctor may be too young to remember but this is exactly what they did with banks back in the 90s and this is exactly what has led to this dang nightmare we are all having now.

     
  • posted at 6:38 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    Fact checking is important to coming to a conclusion on an issue. Leonard only fact checks so much to fit his agenda.

     
  • posted at 6:37 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    Non-medical policy expenses (overhead) increases each year with inflation maybe 3% a year while by far the larger portion of individual health insurance -- medical costs -- have been trending at 10% or more in recent years. While making the distribution of insurance more efficient is a good thing, it is the far smaller part of the problem and it's a one-time fix. Often when we hear of these proposals, we also hear that the states should continue to do the consumer protection work since they tend to be closer to their citizens than one big national regulator could ever be. McCain is not clear on this.Apparently, McCain would also attempt to do away with many of the state benefit mandates that are often pointed to as a cause of higher health insurance costs by giving consumers a federal policy option. Some states are estimated to add as much as 30% to the cost of a policy by loading on the mandates.

     
  • posted at 6:33 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    So, how effective would Senator McCain's plan be in making health care, and health insurance, affordable and better? Let's take a look at his very brief outline:Allowing people to buy health insurance nationwide instead of limiting them to in-state companies.His focus here is on making individual health insurance lower in cost so people can buy it. Creating one national health insurance policy form, which would save insurers the need to comply with insurance regulators in each of the states, would make things more efficient. However, this tackles only the non-medical expense portion of a health insurance policy and only a small part of that. cont

     
  • posted at 6:10 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    dyan wrote on Sep 20, 2008 9:14 AM:" Voter: Check with Herrnstein and Murray's "The Bell Curve." In 1960, poor women were outproducing "educated" women at a rate of 3 to one. It must be three times that today.There is a simple reason why children from small families tend to be better educated than children from large families.Parents with fewer children are able to concentrate their resources on the children they do have and thus insure that those children receive decent educations.A family with 12 kids might barely be able to feed them all while the same parents with two kids and the same resources might well be able to send both of those kids to private schools and good colleges.

     
  • posted at 6:06 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    Brian wrote on Sep 20, 2008 7:51 AM:" HMMMM, Somewhere Leonard said, in so many words, small business will suffer under McCain's tax plan. "Indeed. The added burden of paying taxes on employer contributions to health plans will be crippling for small business. Many small business owners will go under as a result of McCains plan.

     
  • posted at 6:04 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    Brian wrote on Sep 20, 2008 8:56 AM: Looks like voter will not address the issue of Leonard being flat wrong about McCain's tax plan.What part am I wrong about, Brian? McCain has said that he will make employee and employer health care contributions. When you add these contributions up for the nation, that will easily be the largest tax increase on working Americans in history.Do you feel that any of the statements I have made above are incorrect? If so, which ones and why?

     
  • posted at 4:14 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    Voter: Check with Herrnstein and Murray's "The Bell Curve." In 1960, poor women were outproducing "educated" women at a rate of 3 to one. It must be three times that today. Whether it's birth control or abortion, face it: You guys are on the losing end.

     
  • posted at 4:11 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    Brian wrote on Sep 20, 2008 9:01 AM:"What facts do you have that dergulation of healthcare will end up like the banking system boondoggle?"The facts are that McCain does not have a good track record with deregulation. He messed up banking--Gramm-Leach-Bliley and was a party to the savings and loan scandal (Keating 5). Why would you trust him with deregulating healthcare and do you even know what deregulating healthcare would mean? No, probably not. You get free government healthcare and would not have to worry about it in any case.

     
  • posted at 4:10 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    Voter: Duh, McCain is a liberal!

     
  • posted at 4:08 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    Voter: Do you actually think that many poor women are going to give up their only source of income by having an abortion? Thanks to your boy, LBJ and the "Great Society," the more they have the more money the make - of course as long as there is no husband in the home.

     
  • posted at 4:07 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    Dyan, again, what is your source of information? Where is the research to back up your contention? Or are you just making this stuff up as you go along?

     
  • posted at 4:06 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    I criticize all misinformation.

     
  • posted at 4:05 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    Brian, you don't know what you are talking about. Gramm-Leach-Bliley repealed the regulations of Glass Stiegel and was supported by McCain, written by his economic advisor.

     
  • posted at 4:04 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    voter wrote on Sep 20, 2008 8:58 AM:" Brian, why would you expect me to argue for Leonard? "I don't. But you will believe what he says. And then you will criticize those who factcheck to refute what Leonard posts.

     
  • posted at 4:03 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    Sure. RINOs do. But they are simply Dems in sheeps clothing.

     
  • posted at 4:01 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    voter wrote on Sep 20, 2008 8:54 AM:" So let's get this straight. You believe that deregulating healthcare " as we have done over the last decade with banking" will be great? You need to educate yourself about the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. That is what caused this problem. And you want similar deregulation of healthcare? "Again,deregulating healthcare will not end up like the banking system boondoggle. You're flat wrong. Glass-Steigel was implemented after the depression to keep the banking system sound. What facts do you have that dergulation of healthcare will end up like the banking system boondoggle?There are many industries that have been deregulated that are fine. 2

     
  • posted at 4:01 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    dyan, what is your source of research that backs up your notion that conservative women do not get abortions? Are you stating that Republican women don't get abortions?

     
  • posted at 3:58 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    Brian, why would you expect me to argue for Leonard?

     
  • posted at 3:57 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    dyan, Brain, can you point us all to the source of your information that Biden is not paying his fair share of taxes? Also, based on what information are you calling him "elite"? And do you think that Cindy McCain with her 7 homes and $300,000 outfits is "elite"?

     
  • posted at 3:56 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    Hey Voter: It sure ain't the conservative women getting those baby drains LOL!

     
  • posted at 3:56 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    Looks like voter will not address the issue of Leonard being flat wrong about McCain's tax plan. Leonard will go on to lie about something else about McCain and voter will believe him until I expose the lies again.What a vicious circle libs put themselves through.

     
  • posted at 3:54 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    So let's get this straight. You believe that deregulating healthcare " as we have done over the last decade with banking" will be great? You need to educate yourself about the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. That is what caused this problem. And you want similar deregulation of healthcare?

     
  • posted at 3:53 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    Dyan wrote:It's "patriotic" to pay taxes but his personal donations have amounted to practically nothing. "This is so true and revealing of Biden's elitest nature.

     
  • posted at 3:52 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    No, dyan, you were not talking about free healthcare on this thread this morning. You were erroneously stating that liberals get more abortions, which is not true.

     
  • posted at 3:51 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    voter wrote on Sep 20, 2008 8:41 AM:" Brian, how about you explain for all of us what McCain means by "returning control to individuals" and therefore benefiting employers. Keep in mind that he wants to deregulate healthcare which has worked out so well with banking. "Voter-deregulation of banking is far different from deregulation of healthcare. Obviously you have no fundamental undersatanding of the banks deregulation. Look up Glass-Steigel Act.Deregulating the the telecom system years ago was a big success. I'm confident deregulating the healthcare system will be just as successful.

     
  • posted at 3:50 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    Are you stating that educated white women are using abortion in lieu of birth control? You're delusional. That fact is that educated, non-religious white women have the lowest rates of abortion.

     
  • posted at 3:48 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    Voter: On healthcare, I'll get back to my original premise. Dems are all for social programs such as "free" healthcare as long as someone else gets stuck with the bill. Take your boy Biden, for example. It's "patriotic" to pay taxes but his personal donations have amounted to practically nothing.

     
  • posted at 3:43 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    Gee Voter, I wonder how those numbers can add up when the average white educated woman has 1.3 children and the average "poor" woman (includes people with cell phones, microwaves and color TVs) has 3.5?

     
  • posted at 3:41 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    Brian, how about you explain for all of us what McCain means by "returning control to individuals" and therefore benefiting employers. Keep in mind that he wants to deregulate healthcare which has worked out so well with banking.

     
  • posted at 3:34 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    For example, "Our plan to return control of health care to patients and providers will benefit small business employers and employees alike," means they will not encourage employers to provide insurance for employees and we will eventually all be out their fending for ourselves with the insurance companies. "Voter- sounds pretty irresponsible to me. The Obama camp is busy at distorting McCain's agenda. I see you've fallen into the trap.It's not that hard to misconstrue things. You keep on dreaming that the Obama camp does not misconstrue things to fit their agenda.I'm confident the McCain camp is doing far LESS misconstruing. It's not cvonservatives nature to misconstrue. It would make them look desperate. Democrats, on the other hand, are counting on people to not fact check. In other words, The Democrats whole platform is to misinform people.

     
  • posted at 3:29 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    If you checked the statistics, you'd see that the lowest abortion rates are among well educated women with no religious affiliation (liberals) and highest among poor women without proper access to basic healthcare.

     
  • posted at 3:26 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    If they "choose" to depopulate themselves, so be it.

     
  • posted at 3:24 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    It sounds like you approve of "baby killing" as long as it is done only by liberal women. Is that true, dyan?

     
  • posted at 3:21 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    Baby killing will continue and liberal women will continue to depopulate themselves.

     
  • posted at 3:19 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    But Lenny, Rowe is not going to be overturned. What part of that don't you understand? Don't you realize that two of the most liberal justices on the Supreme Court were appointed by Ronald Reagan?

     
  • posted at 3:16 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    Further, McCains says, "Our approach to regulation basing it on sound science to achieve goals that are technically feasible will protect against job-killing intrusions into small businesses. " This means deregulation, like he has supported for many years and which has now resulted in the financial meltdown. This quote from this month's Contingincies magazine, with a McCain byline, says it all. "Opening up the health insurance market to more vigorous nationwide competition, as we have done over the last decade in banking, would provide more choices of innovative products less burdened by the worst excesses of state-based regulation."

     
  • posted at 3:11 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    This is amazing. Finally, you visit your candidate's website, Brian. Good for you. Now, go visit the Obama website and compare and contrast. This is what thinking people do. Also, you might want to investigate what those McCain platitudes really mean. For example, "Our plan to return control of health care to patients and providers will benefit small business employers and employees alike," means they will not encourage employers to provide insurance for employees and we will eventually all be out their fending for ourselves with the insurance companies.

     
  • posted at 3:04 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    http://www.gop.com/2008Platform/Energy.htmLeonard, thanks for turning me on to this site. I don't know why I didn't think about it before. My plans on voting for McCain have now been solidified. :)

     
  • posted at 2:56 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    I suspect the Obama camp has altered the Republican platform quite a bit and Leonard has bought into it.

     
  • posted at 2:54 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    http://www.gop.com/2008Platform/Economy.htmAll the other posts are from this site too.Republicans will advance a multi-pronged plan to support small business and grow good-paying jobs:Through the energy agenda laid out elsewhere in this platform, we will attack the rise in energy costs that is making it so difficult for entrepreneurs to compete.Our tax reduction and tax simplification agenda will allow businesses to focus on producing and selling their products and services not on paying taxes.Our plan to return control of health care to patients and providers will benefit small business employers and employees alike.Our determination to vigorously open foreign markets to American products is an opportunity for many small businesses to grow larger in the global economy.Our approach to regulation basing it on sound science to achieve goals that are technically feasible will protect against job-killing intrusions into small businesses. Our commitment to legal reform means protecting small businesses from the effects of frivolous lawsuits.

     
  • posted at 2:51 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    HMMMM, Somewhere Leonard said, in so many words, small business will suffer under McCain's tax plan.

     
  • posted at 2:45 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    Now Leonard, The Republican platform seems to be wee bit different than what you claim. HMMMMMMM

     
  • posted at 2:43 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    The Democrats Plan to Raise Your Taxes The last thing Americans need right now is tax hikes. On the federal level, Republicans lowered taxes in 2001 and 2003 in order to encourage economic growth, put more money in the pockets of every taxpayer, and make the system fairer. It worked. If Congress had then controlled its spending, we could have done even more. Ever since those tax cuts were enacted, the Democratic Party has been clear about its goals: It wants to raise taxes by eliminating those Republican tax reductions. The impact on American families would be disastrous: Marginal tax rates would rise. This is in addition to their proposal to target millions of taxpayers with even higher rates.The marriage penalty would return for two-earner couples.The child tax credit would fall to half its current value.Small businesses would lose their tax relief.The federal death tax would be enormously increased. Investment income the seed money for new jobs would be eaten away by higher rates for dividend and capital gain income.

     
  • posted at 2:41 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    Republicans will advance a multi-pronged plan to support small business and grow good-paying jobs:Through the energy agenda laid out elsewhere in this platform, we will attack the rise in energy costs that is making it so difficult for entrepreneurs to compete.Our tax reduction and tax simplification agenda will allow businesses to focus on producing and selling their products and services not on paying taxes.Our plan to return control of health care to patients and providers will benefit small business employers and employees alike.Our determination to vigorously open foreign markets to American products is an opportunity for many small businesses to grow larger in the global economy.Our approach to regulation basing it on sound science to achieve goals that are technically feasible will protect against job-killing intrusions into small businesses. Our commitment to legal reform means protecting small businesses from the effects of frivolous lawsuits.

     
  • posted at 2:39 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    Lower Taxes on Families and IndividualsAmerican families with children are the hardest hit during any economic downturn. Republicans will lower their tax burden by doubling the exemption for dependents.New technology should not occasion more taxation. We will permanently ban internet access taxes and stop all new cell phone taxes.For the sake of family farms and small businesses, we will continue our fight against the federal death tax.The Alternative Minimum Tax, a stealth levy on the middle-class that unduly targets large families, must be repealed. Republicans support tax credits for health care and medical expenses.

     
  • posted at 2:37 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    This is from the Republican Platform Leonard is talkin about:http://www.gop.com/2008Platform/Economy.htmThe Republican Agenda: Using Tax Relief to Grow the Economy Sound tax policy alone may not ensure economic success, but terrible tax policy does guarantee economic failure. Along with making the 2001 and 2003 tax cuts permanent so American families will not face a large tax hike, Republicans will advance tax policies to support American families, promote savings and innovation, and put us on a path to fundamental tax reform.

     
  • posted at 2:14 am on Sat, Sep 20, 2008.

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    Leonard, This is on a McCain staging site. I wish you would stop the lies supplied to you by the Barack camp.You're getting on our nerves!You libs are quite good at advancing lies long enough that they become interpreted as truth. I will be posting things contrary to your false assertions.Cut Taxes On The Middle ClassCut Taxes For Middle Class Families: Hard-working American families need lower taxes. John McCain will permanently repeal the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) -- a tax that will be paid nearly exclusively by 25 million middle class families. John McCain will repeal this onerous tax, saving middle class families nearly $60 billion in a single year. Under McCain's plan, a middle class family with children set to pay the AMT will save an average of over $2,700 -- a real tax cut for working families

     
  • posted at 3:08 pm on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    Rick Davis, McCain's campaign manager has been a lobbiest for Fanny and Freddie for the past 10 years.Quote Leonard "Hmmmm."

     
  • posted at 3:02 pm on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    Brian wrote on Sep 19, 2008 7:43 PM:-This is all Leonard has in response to Pat's. Yep Brian. All I have is facts.Facts, however, can be potent weapons.Facts are like Kryptonite to Republican tools.

     
  • posted at 2:59 pm on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    Brian wrote on Sep 19, 2008 7:43 PM:I just love it when Leonard is all bloodied up from defeat Oh my.Brian's fantasies about me just keep on getting darker, kinkier and more disgusting.I have to say that I find this all very disturbing.I sure hope he isn't going to start rhapsodizing about my butt again.

     
  • posted at 2:57 pm on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    Brian wrote on Sep 19, 2008 7:40 PM:Of course Leonard will not supply us with this outrageous lie because it is indeed a boldface lie.Sigh....Brian, there is nothing for me to supply you with. This is written in the platform of the Republican Party. Surely, you have read the platform that you are planning to endorse with your vote, haven't you?

     
  • posted at 2:56 pm on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    dyan wrote on Sep 19, 2008 7:38 PM:" What's that got to do with over turning Rowe?Well, for starters, in order to make Abortion illegal, as the Republican platform calls for, you would have to overturn Rowe. What part of that don't you understand?

     
  • posted at 2:54 pm on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    Brian wrote on Sep 19, 2008 7:37 PM:You keep on advancing your STUPID idiotic notion about McCain's tax planwithout any sites tha have any credibility to back it up and we're supposed to take it as gospel.Brian, my statements about McCain's tax plan are based on no other source than McCain's actual tax plan as outlined by.... surprise....John McCain!

     
  • posted at 2:53 pm on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    dyan wrote on Sep 19, 2008 7:47 PM:" You got to hand it to Len. He goes down with sword in hand. I think a lot of what he does is just to see what kind of reaction he can get. "dyan, Yes i can confirm this. He told me in an email that he doesn't even know what he is writing down sometimes.This re-enforces the knee-jerk reaction we get from liberals. At least he's consistent.

     
  • posted at 2:47 pm on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    You got to hand it to Len. He goes down with sword in hand. I think a lot of what he does is just to see what kind of reaction he can get.

     
  • posted at 2:43 pm on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    Leonard wrote on Sep 19, 2008 6:56 PM:" Pat Maple wrote on Sep 19, 2008 3:56 PM:" Leonard: You are quoting a reporter? Are you disputing the facts or are you just trying to muddy the waters? "-This is all Leonard has in response to Pat's. I just love it when Leonard is all bloodied up from defeat but he keeps on coming back for more.

     
  • posted at 2:40 pm on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    Actually, Len you are wrong about my views. I SUPPORT abortion. Why? Because most people who get abortions are white liberal women. This means they will wipe themselves out in less than 50 years.

     
  • posted at 2:40 pm on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    Leonard wrote:For your information, Dyan, the 2008 platform of the Republican Party calls for a complete ban on abortion with no exceptions for rape, incest of the health of the mother. John "Tax Em" McCain and the Pork Queen have both pledged to support this platform. "Of course Leonard will not supply us with this outrageous lie because it is indeed a boldface lie.I hear Lodian a coming with her smooching to stick up for him.

     
  • posted at 2:38 pm on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    What's that got to do with over turning Rowe? You know as well as I that's nothing but eyewash for the base. Dems do the same thing. They're not getting out of Iraq either. Dems need to go back to what they do best: Class warfare and racial divide.

     
  • posted at 2:37 pm on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    Leonard wrote: How about you stop wasting our time and start addressing the actual issues in this election? "I've been addressing the issues in this election. Where have you been? Just because you don't agree with my perspective DOES not mean I am wrong.You keep on advancing your STUPID idiotic notion about McCain's tax planwithout any sites tha have any credibility to back it up and we're supposed to take it as gospel.You know and you admitted in so many words in replying to my posts that Obama's tax plan is socialism. yet you contend you don't know what I am talking about.How about YOU stop wasting our time and start addressing the actual issues in this election instead of manufacturing and perpetuating lies about McCain's tax plan.

     
  • posted at 2:12 pm on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    dyan wrote on Sep 19, 2008 4:26 PM:" Anyone seen a quote anywhere from any ligitimate source that Palin would reverse the baby-killing decision of Rowe v. Wade? Those are her personal beliefs, not policy. More scare tactics from the looney left. Baby killing should have been legislated, not dictated from a court. "I love GOP tools like Dyan. They support the Republicans 110% but, when you get right down to it, they have no idea what it is that they are supporting.For your information, Dyan, the 2008 platform of the Republican Party calls for a complete ban on abortion with no exceptions for rape, incest of the health of the mother. John "Tax Em" McCain and the Pork Queen have both pledged to support this platform.

     
  • posted at 1:56 pm on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    Pat Maple wrote on Sep 19, 2008 3:56 PM:" Leonard: You are quoting a reporter? Are you disputing the facts or are you just trying to muddy the waters?

     
  • posted at 11:26 am on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    Anyone seen a quote anywhere from any ligitimate source that Palin would reverse the baby-killing decision of Rowe v. Wade? Those are her personal beliefs, not policy. More scare tactics from the looney left. Baby killing should have been legislated, not dictated from a court.

     
  • posted at 10:56 am on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    Leonard: You are quoting a reporter? Try going to the Wasila web site and see for your self. Again the people of Wasila voted for this increase. Joe Biden says that they are going to tax the "rich" and they should get use to it because it is "Patriotic".

     
  • posted at 10:34 am on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    Brian: Let's go step by step here. Palin doesn't believe abortion to save the mother's life is justified. Palin may be VP. McCain - God forbid - may suffer a heath setback or worse and Palin would become president. There are Supreme Court appointments coming up. If Palin appoints judges with her agenda... is the light bulb on yet? Please take a course on Woman's History and you will find I'm not as "ignorant" as you wish I was on this topic.

     
  • posted at 9:20 am on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    Brian wrote on Sep 19, 2008 2:07 PM:" The fundamental understanding of Obama's tax plan is it's Socialism.Anyone care to refute this claim?Leonard won't because he knows it's trueThere's nothing to refute. You have made an utterly unfounded claim and provided nothing to support it. How about you stop wasting our time and start addressing the actual issues in this election?

     
  • posted at 9:14 am on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    Pat Maple wrote on Sep 19, 2008 1:55 PM:" Leonard: Yes I do prefer that the people have a vote in where their money will go and for what. When is the last time you voted for a FEDERAL tax increase? Alaska has no sales tax, Wasila has a 2.5% tax on the first $500.00 sale and none there after. (A 25% increase would amount to $3.00)The sales tax was 2% when the Pork Queen was elected. She pushed through a measure to raise it to 2.5%, a 25% increase.My source for this is the article that appeared in the Oregonian on 9/5/08. You can look it up if you would like.The money raised was used to build a multi million dollar hockey arena that the Pork Queen said would bring income to Wasilla but which still requires hundreds of thousands of dollars in civic subsidies each year.

     
  • posted at 9:07 am on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    The fundamental understanding of Obama's tax plan is it's Socialism.Anyone care to refute this claim?Leonard won't because he knows it's true.

     
  • posted at 8:59 am on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    Leonard wrote on Sep 19, 2008 1:50 PM:" Brian wrote on Sep 19, 2008 1:47 PM:" The fundamental understanding of Obama's tax plan is it's Socialism.At its fundamentals, McCain's plan to tax working Americans until they bleed is essentially robbery.McCain is the anti Robin Hood. He plans to steal from the middle class and give to the rich. "-From your distorted perspective I can see how you would arrive at this.From a true and accurate perspective of McCain's tax plan your perspective is fundamentally false.

     
  • posted at 8:55 am on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    Leonard: Yes I do prefer that the people have a vote in where their money will go and for what. When is the last time you voted for a FEDERAL tax increase? Alaska has no sales tax, Wasila has a 2.5% tax on the first $500.00 sale and none there after. (A 25% increase would amount to $3.00) There are hundreds of exceptions to this tax also. The money goes into the city cofers for city projects just like those in Lodi and to pay off bond indebtedness. I have asked you for your sources for your claims...you refuse to share them. Brian you are right about Leonard. Dyan...you are arguing with a stump.

     
  • posted at 8:50 am on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    Brian wrote on Sep 19, 2008 1:47 PM:" The fundamental understanding of Obama's tax plan is it's Socialism.At its fundamentals, McCain's plan to tax working Americans until they bleed is essentially robbery.McCain is the anti Robin Hood. He plans to steal from the middle class and give to the rich.

     
  • posted at 8:49 am on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    Dyan, John McCain is going to tax the productive until they bleed.If you don't believe me, look it up.

     
  • posted at 8:47 am on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    The fundamental understanding of Obama's tax plan is it's Socialism.Taking more from the rich and then giving it back to the poor in the form of rebate checks is wealth redistribution. Anyone with the slightest bit of knowledge of how socialism works understands this.

     
  • posted at 8:42 am on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    nylodian wrote: I don't believe the government should have the control to let a mother die, risk a stroke or heart attack because her body cannot support a pregnancy. -Chuckle, nylodian has no fundamental understanding of the extreme measures doctors are given the power to do otherwise he would not have made thisoffensive and ignorant statement. The government has never called for a woman to die in order to not abort a baby.

     
  • posted at 8:42 am on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    Look: All this BS can be boiled down to two things: The productive, (those who are on their own to make a living) and the moochers (Those who suck off welfare or have government jobs). Except for some super rich who feel guilty (like to Hollywood crowd) most of the second category fits into the Deomcratic view of things. Most of the productive fit into the first category because they are pulling the load for the others and resent abuse of it. This is not going to change, and eventaully the house of cards will collapse.

     
  • posted at 8:19 am on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    McCain's unprecedented tax increase will fall particularly hard on small business owners.

     
  • posted at 8:19 am on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    dyan wrote on Sep 19, 2008 1:09 PM:" Small business owners making over $250,000 are not "working people?The increases that Obama supports pale in comparison to the massive, unprecedented tax increase McCain has pledged to impose on working Americans.That is a fact, you can look it up for yourself.

     
  • posted at 8:16 am on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    dyan wrote on Sep 19, 2008 1:11 PM:" Let's say your premise is true. Dem corruption apparently,is O.K. right? "No.

     
  • posted at 8:15 am on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    dyan wrote on Sep 19, 2008 1:09 PM: The rich pay 40-60% of themWhat do you consider rich?

     
  • posted at 8:11 am on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    Let's say your premise is true. Dem corruption apparently,is O.K. right?

     
  • posted at 8:09 am on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    Small business owners making over $250,000 are not "working people?"Working people making under this figure don't buy products and services from small businesses? People making under $250,000 don't pay capital gains taxes?Reality check. Half the people in this country don't pay any taxes. The rich pay 40-60% of them. The "no-pays" get a free ride. Why shouldn't they vote for more freebees? It's the main reason all democracies eventually self-destruct.

     
  • posted at 8:06 am on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    Where do you get your facts from Dyan. It is a matter of record that the Pork Queen claims that her brother in law threatened her fathers life (although she didn't bother to report the alleged threat to the police at the time).I have never seen anyone claim that the brother in law actually threatened the Pork Queen's life.

     
  • posted at 8:03 am on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    If someone (allegedly) threatened Palin's family member's life, she should have reported it to the police, just like any other citizen would have done.Using her power as governor to seek extra legal vengeance is clearly an abuse of power.

     
  • posted at 8:00 am on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    Where do you get your "facts" on Palin?Moveon.org or NBC news? She ALLEGEDLYwanted this moron fired for threatening the life of herself and her family. If true, is this the behavior you expect from a state trooper? Speaking of corruption, do all your Dem pals from Bill Clinton's pardons to Charlie Rangel, to William Jefferson's $90,000 in the freezer get a "pass?" Apparently, the mainstream media seems to think so.

     
  • posted at 7:58 am on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    dyan wrote on Sep 19, 2008 12:46 PM: It must be that Dem Congress with a 9% approval rate!What Dyan never mentions is the fact that the approval rate for the Republicans in Congress is EVEN LOWER.

     
  • posted at 7:57 am on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    dyan wrote on Sep 19, 2008 12:46 PM:" I think liberal "redistribute the wealth to those who never earned it" Dems This is a rich one given John "Tax Em" McCain's plan to impose the largest tax increase on working Americans in history.

     
  • posted at 7:46 am on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    I think liberal "redistribute the wealth to those who never earned it" Dems are afraid they are going to lose this one. After the mess Bush made, they should be 20 points ahead in the polls, right? It must be that Dem Congress with a 9% approval rate! Of course, CA is already a lost cause and is now the Peoples Republic. That's why new business is going elswhere and the tax base in crumbling. But at least we have the highet paid correctional officers in the country! Teachers? no. 3!

     
  • posted at 7:30 am on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    I think Dyan is feeling "picked on".

     
  • posted at 6:31 am on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    dyan wrote on Sep 19, 2008 11:16 AM:" Man - can you guys take the facts and streeeeeeeeeetch the truth! Face it. You guys blew it with that grump Biden and now all you can do is pick on Palin.If believing that puts you in your happy place, by all means, dream on.

     
  • posted at 6:16 am on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    Man - can you guys take the facts and streeeeeeeeeetch the truth! Face it. You guys blew it with that grump Biden and now all you can do is pick on Palin.(LOL)

     
  • posted at 5:07 am on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    dyan wrote on Sep 19, 2008 9:33 AM:What is there NOT like about her except she's not a baby-killing, gun confiscating,tax-raising, government- control-everything liberal? "Well, you could start with the fact that she is a tax and spend conservative with a history of abusing her office to pursue personal vendettas.But that would just be a start.

     
  • posted at 4:55 am on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    re: "What is there NOT like about her except she's not a .... , government- control-everything liberal?"See? We can agree on something. I don't believe the government should control whether a victim of rape or incest must carry a resulting pregnancy to term. I don't believe the government should have the control to let a mother die, risk a stroke or heart attack because her body cannot support a pregnancy. I also think since we're not a theocracy, government shouldn't dictate religious doctrine as science in our public schools.

     
  • posted at 4:33 am on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    Face the facts: Only LIBERAL women are allowed to break the glass ceiling: The Democratic party and the mainstream press (both are the same) have decreed.What is there NOT like about her except she's not a baby-killing, gun confiscating,tax-raising, government- control-everything liberal?

     
  • posted at 3:38 am on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    I like women.I just don't like this particular woman.I wouldn't like her any better if she was a man.How does that make me a hypocrite?

     
  • posted at 3:06 am on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    The Dem hypocracy on women gets louder and louder.

     
  • posted at 3:00 am on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    Brian wrote on Sep 19, 2008 7:25 AM:I do like the USA Today/Gallup poll showing McCain ahead by 10 points. :)The one from 2005?

     
  • posted at 2:55 am on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    Pat, I get the sense from your posts that this is a pattern of government that you favor.

     
  • posted at 2:54 am on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    Pat Maple wrote on Sep 19, 2008 6:42 AM:" Bonds are borrowed money. That money is approved by the voters. She alone cannot borrow money (there is a city council). THAT is basic government. In other words she used the money for public purposes like a new water system, sewer system, police, safety and other city problems.How is it that the city was able to manage without an additional 25 million dollars in debt before Palin became Mayor? How was it that the city was able to get along without a 25% sales tax increase before Palin became Mayor.The fact is that Palin is a tax and spend conservative who squandered millions of city dollars on her pet projects and left the city with one of the heaviest per capita debt loads of any city in Alaska.

     
  • posted at 2:25 am on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.htmlThe presidential election polls vary so much, it seems to me we may have to wait until last vote gets counted. Or uncounted :)I do like the USA Today/Gallup poll showing McCain ahead by 10 points. :)

     
  • posted at 2:09 am on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    Sen. Obama was at the head of the line when the piggies lined up at the Fannie and Freddie trough for campaign bucks.-Yeah, if you put lipstick on a pig, it's still a pig.And so the hipocracy from the Obama camp continues. "

     
  • posted at 2:00 am on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    Pat, Leonard has a LONG track record of leaving out pesky little facts that get in the way of his agenda.

     
  • posted at 1:42 am on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    Bonds are borrowed money. That money is approved by the voters. She alone cannot borrow money (there is a city council). THAT is basic government. In other words she used the money for public purposes like a new water system, sewer system, police, safety and other city problems. Take a course in civics and government. I will stand on my record you can't because you stand on the sidelines and complain. People like you frighten me..were even.

     
  • posted at 1:26 am on Fri, Sep 19, 2008.

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    Leonard wrote:America simply cannot afford another four years of incompetent Republican rule. "-Given the ratings of Pelosi and her cronies are lower than the Presidentone could conclude that Leonard is a proponent of a more incompetent Democrat rule.

     
  • posted at 11:56 pm on Thu, Sep 18, 2008.

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    To be fair, Palin did increase revenue by raising the local sales tax 25 percent.She taxed...She borrowed...And then she SPENT, SPENT, SPENT!

     
  • posted at 11:54 pm on Thu, Sep 18, 2008.

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    Pat Maple wrote on Sep 18, 2008 7:53 PM: Answer the question...how did she put her town 2500% into debt? Ummm... by borrowing money? I don't know how I can make this any more simple for you. Given your posts on this blog, I am beginning to find your involvement in local government rather frightening.

     
  • posted at 11:41 pm on Thu, Sep 18, 2008.

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    Pat Maple wrote on Sep 18, 2008 7:44 PM:" Just one more thing...there are 5 commissioners on the SEC who serve 5 year terms and only 3 can be from the same party. The are appointed by the President...however, they are APPROVED by the Congress. ALL FIVE were approved by the CURRENT Democratic Congress...they in essence hired them. "No, the President hired them, Congress approved the hire. Read your own post, for God's sake!

     
  • posted at 5:35 pm on Thu, Sep 18, 2008.

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    Education is a major issue.This is where national defense really plays a role and the United states is in big trouble, more than is bareable to know and admit. Something has to be done now before we get another surprise. We are very very low on an international level of edcuation and competence. Frightening!!!!!What are the candidates values and missions about this crucial topic?Must see:PBSWHERE WE STAND: Americas Schools in the 21st Century http://www.thirteen.org/pressroom/release.php?get=3063

     
  • posted at 5:31 pm on Thu, Sep 18, 2008.

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    really palin really lipstick really

     
  • posted at 4:02 pm on Thu, Sep 18, 2008.

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    Leonard: I seems you like to pink the facts (transitive verb) not give them wholly. Let's be adults and have an adult discussion.

     
  • posted at 2:53 pm on Thu, Sep 18, 2008.

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    Name calling? That's 4th grade stuff. Lieberman was exercised from his party. Your assurances do no assauge my angst nor do they belie the past practices of the Dem party. Exactly, Hagel is still a Rep and yes some do support Obama, as do many Dems support McCain. Answer the question...how did she put her town 2500% into debt? You stated it as a FACT, then you should have the info readily available.

     
  • posted at 2:44 pm on Thu, Sep 18, 2008.

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    Just one more thing...there are 5 commissioners on the SEC who serve 5 year terms and only 3 can be from the same party. The are appointed by the President...however, they are APPROVED by the Congress. ALL FIVE were approved by the CURRENT Democratic Congress...they in essence hired them.

     
  • posted at 2:39 pm on Thu, Sep 18, 2008.

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    Pat Maple wrote on Sep 18, 2008 7:31 PM:Was Hagel kicked out of the GOP like Lieberman was for differing with the party bosses? Was McCain? No. Hagel is still a member of the Republican Party. I have heard of no movement to "kick him out".Lieberman has not been a member of the Democrat Party for quite some time. He was not, however, kicked out. He simply changed his party affiliation.The fact is that Hagel is just one of the many Republicans who are supporting Obama in this race. These people realize that the time has come to put their Country before their Party.America simply cannot afford another four years of incompetent Republican rule.

     
  • posted at 2:36 pm on Thu, Sep 18, 2008.

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    Pat Maple wrote on Sep 18, 2008 7:31 PM:" So Leonard: This number 2500% is strange to me. How? Did she put it into her pocket or did it go to the public good? Maybe as bonds? Isn't that what Obama wants to do? Patty, I can assure you that Obama has no plans to raise the national debt by 2,500%.

     
  • posted at 2:31 pm on Thu, Sep 18, 2008.

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    So Leonard: This number 2500% is strange to me. How? Did she put it into her pocket or did it go to the public good? Maybe as bonds? Isn't that what Obama wants to do? Take from me and give to you? Chuck Hagel? He wanted to run WITH Obama. Olympia or Kay...either would have been a good choice (vetted) but maybe they declined. Was Hagel kicked out of the GOP like Lieberman was for differing with the party bosses? Was McCain? No.

     
  • posted at 1:24 pm on Thu, Sep 18, 2008.

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    Palin just now on the news referred to the "Palin-McCain Administration." Strange.

     
  • posted at 1:19 pm on Thu, Sep 18, 2008.

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    He sure has that Bevus laugh down.

     
  • posted at 1:15 pm on Thu, Sep 18, 2008.

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    McCain said "The chairman of the SEC serves at the appointment of the president... If I were president today, I would fire him."Did he "forget" a commissioner of an independent regulatory commission cannot be removed by the president?

     
  • posted at 1:15 pm on Thu, Sep 18, 2008.

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    You know, one thing that strikes me about Palin's record is the fact that, as Mayor of Wasilla, her budgets resulted in an increase in the civic deficit of 2,500%!The GOP says this woman is ready to lead America. What they don't say is that she is going to lead us into financial ruin.

     
  • posted at 1:09 pm on Thu, Sep 18, 2008.

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    McCain today thought Spain was in South America?? and he thinks Spain is an adversary of ours?

     
  • posted at 1:06 pm on Thu, Sep 18, 2008.

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    dyan wrote on Sep 18, 2008 4:33 PM:" I would say being a governor with an 80% approval rate in the largest state in the nation Or the smallest state, depending on whether you are counting citizens or frozen tundra.

     
  • posted at 12:48 pm on Thu, Sep 18, 2008.

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    Chuck Hagel is hardly an angry, stupid liberal now is he, dyan? I guess that kind of ends your argument.

     
  • posted at 11:39 am on Thu, Sep 18, 2008.

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    Let's face it. Libs are just ticked because the Dems were too stupid to pick Clinton for V.P. Hypocracy trumped again!

     
  • posted at 11:33 am on Thu, Sep 18, 2008.

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    I would say being a governor with an 80% approval rate in the largest state in the nation easily trumps a guy who has never run a lemonade stand. Oh yes, and what't the approval rate of thisDemocrat congress? 9%!!! Boy, do they know how to solve the peoples' problems!

     
  • posted at 10:55 am on Thu, Sep 18, 2008.

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    So, dyan, are you admitting that Palin is unqualified?

     
  • posted at 10:35 am on Thu, Sep 18, 2008.

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    And Obama is qualified? "Community organizer" and a partial term in the Senate. That's it. Period. End of Story. You know what a "community organizer" is -right? In Chicago, that's someone who gets dead people to vote. He's never even run a lemonade stand!

     
  • posted at 10:30 am on Thu, Sep 18, 2008.

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    dyan, you are the only one claiming that only liberal women can crack the glass ceiling. Everyone else is just stating the obvious--Palin is not qualified. It has nothing to do with her status as a liberal or a conservative. If McCain wanted a female running mate, there were other conservative women who WERE qualified. Kay Bailey Hutchinson comes to mind. Personally, I think Olympia Snowe has plenty of experience and integrity.

     
  • posted at 10:30 am on Thu, Sep 18, 2008.

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    Let's face it. Liberals are the ultimate hypocrites. They want "equal opportunity" for wowmen, but only if they believe in socialist/Marxist philisophy. They pulled the same garbage on Clarence Thomas.

     
  • posted at 10:15 am on Thu, Sep 18, 2008.

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    Oh, I get it. Only "liberal" women have a brain. Let's see. To use your brain, you must want higher taxes, bigger government, and more rules and regulations on what people can and cannot do -right?

     
  • posted at 8:54 am on Thu, Sep 18, 2008.

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    dyan wrote: "Let's face it. Breaking the glass ceiling is only for liberal women."Um, no, dyan, that's not it. Breaking the glass ceiling is for women who actually **use** their brain.

     
  • posted at 7:49 am on Thu, Sep 18, 2008.

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    Republican Senator Chuck Hagel on Palins supposed qualificationsShe doesn't have any foreign policy credentials," Hagel said in an interview published Thursday by the Omaha World-Herald. "You get a passport for the first time in your life last year? I mean, I don't know what you can say. You can't say anything.""I think it's a stretch to, in any way, to say that she's got the experience to be president of the United States

     
  • posted at 7:23 am on Thu, Sep 18, 2008.

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    It's a riot how liberals say Palin is not qualified, but somehow, Obama is! LOL!

     
  • posted at 7:21 am on Thu, Sep 18, 2008.

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    Let's face it. Breaking the glass ceiling is only for liberal women.Everyone else needs to stay in the kitchen.

     
  • posted at 5:30 am on Thu, Sep 18, 2008.

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    Dissension in the ranks????GOP senator: A 'stretch' to say Palin is qualified http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080918/ap_on_el_pr/hagel_palin

     
  • posted at 5:28 am on Thu, Sep 18, 2008.

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    Here's something of interest and a comment I came across on another site.Wikileaks, Mirrors Down and Completely Offline After Palin Email Leakhttp://www.postchronicle.com/news/original/article_212172964.shtmlBut, but, but, President Bush said it was OKAY to read everyone's email. He said that if we had done nothing wrong, there was no reason to be afraid of other people reading our email.Well, sauce for the goose; if Palin is doing nothing wrong, then why is it a big stink that her email is being read???????If the government wants us to respect their privacy, they need to start by respecting ours.

     
  • posted at 4:55 am on Thu, Sep 18, 2008.

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    This just in.....Just in time to boost McCain's sagging poll numbers that is....Intelligence: Terror operation in U.S., Europe possibly imminenthttp://www.homelandsecurityus.com/20081917Arch*********BLAST FROM THE PAST********http://solari.com/archive/missing_moneyLucky for the Don, the "terrorists" accommodated him.

     
  • posted at 4:41 am on Thu, Sep 18, 2008.

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    Epic Fail: Palin cant answer softball question about national security experience at first town hall meetingTurns out the town hall was pre-ticketed and she still couldnt answer the question coherently. Sheesh.http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/09/18/epic-fail-palin-cant-answer-softball-question-about-national-security-experience-at-first-town-hall-meeting/

     
  • posted at 4:15 am on Thu, Sep 18, 2008.

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    National Organization for Women Endorses Obama-BidenAdd this to the mix. N.O.W. (the National Organization for Women) has come out with an official endorsement, not for McCain-Palin, but for Obama-Biden. NOW has not endorsed a presidential candidate since Mondale-Ferraro in 1984. In addition to the endorsement from N.O.W., the Obama-Biden ticket received endorsements from Business and Professional Women/USA, the National Association of Social Workers, the National Congress of Black Women and the Womens Information Network.What this powerful endorsement says is that regardless of the chromosomal makeup of the Republican ticket, they are simply wrong on the issues that matter most to women. McCains record is dismal, and so is Palins. Their records would be dismal regardless of their gender.http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/09/17/national-organization-for-women-endorses-obama-biden/

     
  • posted at 2:54 am on Thu, Sep 18, 2008.

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    from USAtoday.com: In 2000, Alaska lawmakers learned that rural police agencies had been billing rape victims or their insurance companies $500 to $1,200 for the costs of the forensic medical examinations used to gather evidence. They quickly passed a law prohibiting the practice.According to the sponsor, Democrat Eric Croft, the law was aimed in part at Wasilla, where now-Gov. Sarah Palin was mayor. And how would Palin as VP be a "step forward" for women again?

     
  • posted at 5:56 pm on Wed, Sep 17, 2008.

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    Ladies, dont be lead by Palin being a working woman with a family. How many working mothers do you know that you know dont make the best people or leaders. She portrays one thing but she says another. What is in the content of her answers? She's only not solid, but is hypocritical and contradictory in her actions and when confronted. She delivers a script. She lacks character and professional discipline. In a way I feel sorry for her, she is being used by Republicans, she was picked for being a woman politician, not a well qualified, successful and effective leader. Personally, I think when you have a pregnant teenage girl and you have a baby with special needs, no one or nothing can replace the important attention, support, time and care needed from their mother, but, that is on her.The way LNS places her name in the paper almost daily and their choice and number of article perspectives clearly show the influence they are trying to have on their viewers: Republican. What happened to the issues that affect us citizens, not Palins ? What happened to McCain? Hes the one running for the key post. Is this

     
  • posted at 5:45 pm on Wed, Sep 17, 2008.

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    Marzo2008 blogs" "lipstick on a pig!" mccain is the pig and palin is the lipstick. ". Wow, what a compelling statement.With such deep thoughts you must be very successful and influential. Please tell us what you do for a living.

     
  • posted at 4:09 pm on Wed, Sep 17, 2008.

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    Ah yes, the sign on Clinton's desk during his presidency said " The buck stops there".

     
  • posted at 3:03 pm on Wed, Sep 17, 2008.

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    Ron Paul on the recent bailoutshttp://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/022925.html

     
  • posted at 2:50 pm on Wed, Sep 17, 2008.

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    Not knowing much about Texas and the MSM not being much help in covering Hurricane Ike; I'm glad I've been able to speak with my daughter and that **someone** covered what went on down there.http://www.standeyo.com/NEWS/08_Pics_of_Day/080917.pic.of.day.htmlWipeouts all over the U.S. from Texas to Wall Street. Maybe God's trying to tell us something. ;)

     
  • posted at 2:46 pm on Wed, Sep 17, 2008.

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    Critics Question Palin's Record on "Epidemic" Rape, Domestic Violence in AlaskaEffort to Tackle Sex Violence Stalled by Palin's Office, Sources Sayhttp://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=5804581&page=1

     
  • posted at 2:40 pm on Wed, Sep 17, 2008.

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    Anybody see this? I just about bust a gut. Clip starts after short ad.Obama: The 'Ol' Boys Network' Just Another McCain Staff Meetinghttp://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/obama-the-ol-bo.html

     
  • posted at 2:08 pm on Wed, Sep 17, 2008.

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    You may recall Phil Graham as the man who said that Americans are suffering a "mental deficit".That got him fired from his formal position in the McCain Campaign although he continues to hold regular meetings with McCain just as he did before his firing.

     
  • posted at 2:06 pm on Wed, Sep 17, 2008.

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    Cogito wrote on Sep 17, 2008 6:29 PM:" Leonard, you can trace the lending crisis, which is driving this downturn, back to Clinton . Cog, conservatives can trace anything you can imagine back to Clinton if they shut their eyes, screw up their faces and try really really hard but, with the exception of those 35 illegitimate kids down in Little Rock, its pretty hard to to make it stick.The deregulation of the securities industry was the primary work of John McCain's close friend and economic adviser Senator Phil Graham.Graham took more than a million dollars in contributions from the securities industry in exchange for his relentless advocacy of deregulation. The result was the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act which effectively stripped away regulations which had been in effect since the Depression.John McCain was also one of the principle proponents of Gramm-Leach-Bliley.Clinton did eventually sign Gramm-Leach-Bliley but he had little choice since Graham, McCain, and millions more dollars in industry contributions had managed to put together a veto proof majority in Congress.

     
  • posted at 1:59 pm on Wed, Sep 17, 2008.

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    You can trace the current crisis to the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act which Republicans invented and pushed through congress. Clinton had nothing to do with it. The act was essentially veto-proof. Funny how Gramm is McCain's economic advisor.

     
  • posted at 1:29 pm on Wed, Sep 17, 2008.

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    Leonard, you can trace the lending crisis, which is driving this downturn, back to Clinton . He is the one who fought for looser lending laws, for more minority opportunity, banks were fined for not following the new guidelines.

     
  • posted at 12:09 pm on Wed, Sep 17, 2008.

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    Does anyone remember that book "Dow 36,000" in which the author predicted that by 2005 the Dow would hit 36,000.I keep a copy on my bookshelf as a caution against irrational exuberance.This morning, just out of curiosity, I googled James K. Glassman, the author of what was undoubtedly one of the worst books ever written.SURPRISE!!!!SURPRISE!!!!The man is now a high ranking adviser to President Bush.

     
  • posted at 11:52 am on Wed, Sep 17, 2008.

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    Leonard wrote on Sep 17, 2008 1:43 PM:" Dow down 449 points."don't remind me... I have lost $30,000 in 2 days. Gotta love Wall Street. And I am still buying.... go figure.

     
  • posted at 11:49 am on Wed, Sep 17, 2008.

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    wtf wrote on Sep 17, 2008 10:59 AM:" Hey! Has anyone seen the movie "The Stepford Wives"? "You are referring to Sweet Cindy, right??

     
  • posted at 11:48 am on Wed, Sep 17, 2008.

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    thinkaboutit, great blog. McCain 2008 is NOT McCain 2000. He has sold his soul and he has sold his integrity. It is sad.

     
  • posted at 11:45 am on Wed, Sep 17, 2008.

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    Is anyone watching who McCain is hanging out with?Phil Graham, his economic advisor, "the recession is in our head" guy. He is one of the reasons this garbage is happening on Wall Street. And Carly Fiorina, McCain's other economic advisor, fired from Hewlett Packard, and walked away with over 60 MILLION dollars for being fired. She and Phil are going to help McCain fix Wall Street? Are you kidding me?

     
  • posted at 10:23 am on Wed, Sep 17, 2008.

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    I'm sorry...the President does NOT have line item veto power. The Cong-rats are the ones asking for the pork...not the president or for that matter a governor. True, he could veto entire bills but then any compromises are out the door. As far as the bail-outs... it's just a different form of pork.

     
  • posted at 8:48 am on Wed, Sep 17, 2008.

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    More McCain waffles.It turns out that today McCain supports the AIG bailout that just yesterday he adamantly opposed.The real problem isn't that McCain doesn't have an economic policy, its that he has 20 of them and they are all in conflict with one another.

     
  • posted at 8:43 am on Wed, Sep 17, 2008.

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    Dow down 449 pointsWith the bad news from New York piling up in drifts I think we all have to ask ourselves whether any of us can afford another 4 years of the GOP"s failed economic policies.

     
  • posted at 7:10 am on Wed, Sep 17, 2008.

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    I think when journalists wallow in that nonsense for so long and pretend it's newsworthy and important, the coverage of a truly important story (e.g. what the media have now identified as the Republican candidate for president trying to lie his way into the White House) comes across as just another trivial pursuit. For news consumers, it comes across as just more forced cable chatter because there's no seriousness left in the entire endeavor. http://www.opednews.com/articles/McCain-and-Palin-are-laugh-by-Eric-Boehlert-080916-919.html

     
  • posted at 7:09 am on Wed, Sep 17, 2008.

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    McCain and Palin are laughing at the press -- and it's the press' faultThe Republican ticket seems to have adopted a post-press approach to campaigning in which the candidates simply don't care what the press does or says about their honesty. More to the point, the candidates don't think it will matter on Election Day.They may be right. And that's the media's fault. They've reported their way right into the margins. Submerged in trivia and tactics for the past 18 months, the press, I think, has damaged its ability -- its authority -- to referee the campaign. Remember, Matthews is part of the same Beltway press crowd that told news consumers Hillary Clinton's laugh was extremely important and needed to be analyzed for clues about her true character, that John Edwards' haircuts raised serious doubts about the man's candidacy, and that Barack Obama's bowling score spelled trouble on the campaign trail.

     
  • posted at 6:57 am on Wed, Sep 17, 2008.

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    Are Distorted Polls a Campaign Tactic?"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, former CIA director"We can't let that whole generation and a whole segment of the population just slide away out to the Internet and retrieve what information it wants without being in on it." -- Tom Brokaw, NBC news anchor http://www.opednews.com/articles/Are-Distorted-Polls-A-Camp-by-Bill-Willers-080915-727.htmlThe above article ends, "Personally, I'm not buying what they're selling."A LOT of Americans aren't buying the propaganda.....you just won't hear **that** on the nightly "news" LOL!

     
  • posted at 6:53 am on Wed, Sep 17, 2008.

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    "lipstick on a pig!" mccain is the pig and palin is the lipstick.

     
  • posted at 6:46 am on Wed, Sep 17, 2008.

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    Pat Maple wrote: "I find it interesting that the underlying theme in most every post here thinks one person can ruin everything or one person can make everything better. We have Congress to thank for that. Leaders make policy, legislators make laws and spend money and courts judge them all."Technically true, Pat; however "The Decider" has his line item veto and "signing statements" not to mention the fact that more and more power has gone to the Executive branch during this administration. The Constitution was designed with THREE branches of government to ensure checks and balances - thanks to BushCo the scales are wa-a-a-y off balance.Speaking of which....remember today is Constitution Day.

     
  • posted at 6:40 am on Wed, Sep 17, 2008.

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    middlechild wrote: "Are you a fair-weather supporter and flip flop between the two?"Since you asked me this middlechild, I can only surmise that you're fairly new to these blogs.I'm neither a "fair-weather" supporter nor do I "flip-flop" between the two - I leave the flip-flopping to McCain and Palin - I support Ron Paul. The "regulars" on the board know this.

     
  • posted at 6:30 am on Wed, Sep 17, 2008.

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    I find it interesting that the underlying theme in most every post here thinks one person can ruin everything or one person can make everything better. We have Congress to thank for that. Leaders make policy, legislators make laws and spend money and courts judge them all. Personally, I am glad to see a woman running. Until Title IX came into effect the opportunities for women were scarce. There were far better athletes in Lodi (Cindy Enze, Donna Synowicki, Lori Porter and my sister Nancy to name a few) who were never given the opportunity to compete at the college level like I was. You go Sarah.

     
  • posted at 6:03 am on Wed, Sep 17, 2008.

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