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Posted: Tuesday, May 1, 2012 12:00 am | Updated: 6:07 am, Tue May 1, 2012.

Dear Friends,

The first thing I want to tell you all is that none of you have any idea how much your support and your prayers continue to mean to me. It was those prayers and support that got me through the past four and a half nightmare years, and especially the court case and its unjust verdict. I did none of those things I was accused of.

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34 comments:

  • Bruce Reynard posted at 9:33 pm on Fri, May 4, 2012.

    Bruce Reynard Posts: 60

    "I also echo that after there was not a preponderance of evidence to move to a criminal trial"

    Just to point out to everyone reading this: Ronald is either being deliberately deceptive with this statement, or he is confused about statute of limitations re: criminal charges in this particular case, and with application of preponderance of evidence.

     
  • Bruce Reynard posted at 3:25 pm on Fri, May 4, 2012.

    Bruce Reynard Posts: 60

    "but they cannot take his faith."

    True! You can't take from a man something that he never really had.

     
  • Bruce Reynard posted at 3:22 pm on Fri, May 4, 2012.

    Bruce Reynard Posts: 60

    And the church said "Amen!"

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 3:02 am on Thu, May 3, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Of course K Lee... "father Kelly is dead... Mike Kelly is all that remains. Mr Trotter and his attorney took care of that.

     
  • Ben Sanacore posted at 8:53 pm on Wed, May 2, 2012.

    Ben Sanacore Posts: 104

    I'd like to thank the LNS for publishing Father Kelly's recent letter. It is good to hear that things are a little better for him even though he continues to suffer from this persecution. What has struck me the most is that he hasn't lashed out against those who have accused and destroyed him. Though he stands firm in proclaiming his innocence, he hasn't made any bitter or hateful remarks toward anyone who has persecuted him. He has even made his resources available for any liability claim he knows to be unjust. He is carrying his cross and he is following in Christ's footsteps. They may have robbed him of his ministry, but they cannot take his faith. This is not how a guilty man acts. This is how a man of God acts.

     
  • Kim Lee posted at 5:47 pm on Wed, May 2, 2012.

    Kim Lee Posts: 1798

    Michael Kelly should no longer be referred to as "Father".

     
  • Bruce Reynard posted at 3:36 pm on Wed, May 2, 2012.

    Bruce Reynard Posts: 60

    Wow, I have been taking all of your words just a bit about the SNAP organization, with regard to the perception you're putting out about SNAP making tons of money, etc...

    -- But: I just HAPPENED across an article in this very paper detailing their reported budget, (http://www.lodinews.com/news/article_6327e964-d4c6-54a6-80a0-d3d4bdb7c776.html) Turns out you're very wrong about SNAP too...

    It indicates that in year end 2010 (article was last year) they took in a total of $351,320. They have a total of one paid CEO and 8 paid staff. CEO makes a modest $83K leaving about $33K for each of the paid staff. I'd say they're working at pretty good efficiency... and not seeing any money from lawsuits, like you keep implying.

    You guys guys seem to have a bit of Vaseline smeared on your reality lens.

     
  • Ronald Brown posted at 8:58 am on Wed, May 2, 2012.

    gipper Posts: 116

    Mr. Reynard,
    I also echo that after there was not a preponderance of evidence to move to a criminal trial, why would Kelly have left then? Why would he have stayed for four and a half years, submit himself to large numbers of hours of depositions, details of his life made public, submit himself to polygraph tests and have a decline in health largely due to the effects of this case? With no criminal charges, he could have avoided this a long time ago and gone to Ireland earlier.
    It is sad to see a priest lose his ministry and life's work by emotional testimony with more holes in it than a block of swiss cheese.

     
  • Ronald Brown posted at 8:37 am on Wed, May 2, 2012.

    gipper Posts: 116

    Wow. Mr. Reynard, you seem like a really open minded person. If someone disagrees with you, they are misguided.

    Some thoughts:

    I. Contradictions
    Yes, I do believe contradictions are important in this. When the civil case began, the details were very vivid. Travis Trotter also mentioned that the abuse happened when he was 7-10 years old. Fr. Kelly was in Tracy at this time. He also said that the abuse continued into seventh grade and possibly beyond. Fr. Kelly had left Annunciation. Moreover, he was graphic about details where it happened, but he could not remember how many doors are in the rectory, if there was a gate, etc. Trotter contradicts himself so many times it would be hard to take him seriously as a witness if I was a juror. In cases where other abuse victims have come forward Mr. Reynard, there are not so many discrepancies and contradictions of when an event occurred.
    But I guess with "repressed memory" it is not important. I just find it hard to believe that the act of emotional testimony (as told by Tim Lennon) was the turning point in the case. One can forget other witnesses, expert testimony, etc. A good acting job by Travis Trotter and an "expert" on repressed memory was all that was needed for the jury to make a two hour decision after weeks of other expert witnesses.

    II. Bodkin
    Like I said, if you have a problem with Bodkin take it to Harvard University and the Department of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School. They seem to like his work as he is a tenured professor. If you took Bodkin down, there are several other leading psychiatrists who signed on to his article debunking repressed memory. They would testify in his place. In fact, I bet you could ask Dr. Kuo (the plaintiff's psychiatrist) to read the article and her opinions. As a board certified psychiatrist (MD, John Hopkins, Professor UCSF), I think she would agree with his white paper

    III. Manly
    Yes, I work and earn a good money. I also work with law firms in my field on a regular basis. These law firms earn substantial amounts of money on an hourly basis from firms like mine. In addition, for the money they earn they allow their attorneys to take on some pro bono work. This would be done for those that need their expertise but cannot pay their services.
    It looks like Mr Manly from his website is making plenty of money for him and other lawyers in his firm. I do not know many people who have an oceanfront home in Newport Beach like John Manly, but I am sure it is pretty expensive. It looks like he is doing quite well.
    If you and other SNAP members want to see these cases tried on a criminal basis, I think Manly and his firm have enough money that they can take on a pro bono case or two. I am not holding my breath that this will happen. He is a shark in a suit, and he does not take prisoners. I am sure he is working right now with other Oscar worthy performances right now. After Travis Trotter's recent performance, it will be tough to beat.

    IV. Health of Plaintiff
    Mr Reynard, Travis Trotter's personal physician did not testify on to his medical state. Do not assume that he has developed medical symptoms without talking to his doctors. It makes you look like a fool when you talk like this. The only people who offered diagnosis were Bodkin and Kuo.
    As Travis Trotter is on disability, he is still t employed by Southwest Airlines His salary is being picked up by a claim on disability insurance that he purchased when he first became an employee. I have had a recent health injury and did have disability paid at this time. After my condition improved, I went back to work. Mr. Trotter is still earning 70-75% of his salary at Southwest, and he can still purchase health care from Southwest at employee cost on a regular basis (as I did). In other words, if he did need medical help, he could get it at reasonable cost. He would not have to pay market cost as he is without health coverage.

    I am sure his share of the $3.75 million will help his repressed memories fade quickly. His psychiatrists will take him off his anti-depressants, and he will be up and flying again in no time!!


     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 2:39 am on Wed, May 2, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Reynard stated...I have not called you names or accused you of crimes, as you have done to others on these forums.

    Mr Reynard... Your statement above is completely false. If you can misinterpret what I stated so easily, it is obvious that you are susceptible to misreading reality. Just as you are wrong about what I stated, you could equality be wrong about Mike Kelly. Mr Trotter took you for a fantasy ride and his bank account, that is fat and happy, thanks you.

    I have never accused anyone anytime on any blog of committing a crime. That is an absurd interpretation.
    As far as calling people names, I rarely do that. I on the other hand was accused of being a pedophile simply because of my positions and that I am in Thailand... If you want to talk about name calling, Id say the SNAP representatives and you that basically denigrate the intelligence and character of people who support Kelly are the “real” name callers.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 12:40 am on Wed, May 2, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    mr reynard stated...I don't even normally speak up about a case unless I'm very certain that the charges are legitimate

    You then must be setting to bar so low that just about every case is legitimate in you mind.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 12:38 am on Wed, May 2, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Reynard stated...I was molested by a child molester, and I do have an ax to grind: I don't like child molesters. And neither should anyone else

    Thank you for admitting you have an ax to grind which renders you subjective and not objecxtive. It is obvious in your posts that it is you that is blind as you misinterpret much...
    For example, I do not see this board as angry but by anyone except Snap representatives and biased bigoted people who have “claimed” to be molested. The people supporting father Kelly appear to be measured and provide reason behind their thoughts.

    As far as pain that is felt, for me, there is none. I did not know Mike Kelly and do not have an emotional personal relationship that most had. What bothers me is the realization that justice was perverted while an innocent man was railroaded into oblivion. Mr Trotter and his lawyer are rich men living in exclusive real estate enjoying a life many in Lodi could only dream of.

    Mr Reynard and other SNAP representatives are delusional, angry bitter people who continuously make broad general statements about what is normal behavior in child molesters as if it has anything to do with this case. Mr Trotter is a very intelligent man who has military experience. He is just the type of person who could manipulate the system, and in my opinion, played these so called child advotcates like a fiddle.

    They are so blinded by emotion and hate that it must have been easy for Mr Trotter to gain their trust.
    It gained the juries trust by emotional outcries and tears. Justice has been buried .

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 12:37 am on Wed, May 2, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Reynard stated...I was molested by a child molester, and I do have an ax to grind: I don't like child molesters. And neither should anyone else
    Thank you for admitting you have an ax to grind which renders you subjective and not objecxtive. It is obvious in your posts that it is you that is blind as you misinterpret much...
    For example, I do not see this board as angry but by anyone except Snap representatives and biased bigoted people who have “claimed” to be molested. The people supporting father Kelly appear to be measured and provide reason behind their thoughts.

    As far as pain that is felt, for me, there is none. I did not know Mike Kelly and do not have an emotional personal relationship that most had. What bothers me is the realization that justice was perverted while an innocent man was railroaded into oblivion. Mr Trotter and his lawyer are rich men living in exclusive real estate enjoying a life many in Lodi could only dream of.

    Mr Reynard and other SNAP representatives are delusional, angry bitter people who continuously make broad general statements about what is normal behavior in child molesters as if it has anything to do with this case. Mr Trotter is a very intelligent man who has military experience. He is just the type of person who could manipulate the system, and in my opinion, played these so called child advotcates like a fiddle.

    They are so blinded by emotion and hate that it must have been easy for Mr Trotter to gain their trust.
    It gained the juries trust by emotional outcries and tears. Justice has been buried .

     
  • Bruce Reynard posted at 8:53 pm on Tue, May 1, 2012.

    Bruce Reynard Posts: 60

    Skipping to the important bits, for those confused by your misdirection and poor research:

    I.
    It is not inconsistent that a victim of a traumatic sexual abuse would remember some details and not be able to accurately recall trivia such as what grade they were in. What is trauma and what is trivia may differ from individual to individual.

    Supportive people should probably not be described as "drinking the Kool-aid" I suppose, but I do feel that they have been grossly mislead by Kelly and by leadership who did nothing about his offenses. That's a very painful thing for people to come to terms with. It's a very difficult violation, and is mortifying, and embarrassing. In time this will become anger on their part, and they should be supported in their coming pain.

    II.
    Repressed Memory: not going to kick the dead horse. If you want to make this arguement, you go right ahead. I'll give you some advice though: Stop using Dr. Bodkin as your expert. I'd just keep it quiet that he even testified in the trial.

    For those who DON'T know: Bodkin is a go-to shrink from the False Memory Syndrome Foundation (FMFS) which was formed by Pamela and Peter Freyd after their daughter (as an adult) accused her father of molesting her when she was a child. Pamela and Peter then formed this foundation to help discredit their daughter and other adult victims of child sexual abuse like her. These people gathered either gullible or culpable shrinks around them to lend credence to their bunk theories about "false memories" in a really horrid act of betrayal against their daughter. (Who incidentally has her Ph.D in Psychology from STANFORD, and is a professor of Psychology.) They are regularly called to testify at child molest trials. In fact the real big-wig in the organization is Dr. Elizabeth Loftus, and their theories are based on some studies that she did.

    Dr. Bodikin has said statements like THIS about other cases:

    "In fact, Bodkin testified that Doe’s experiences with Ferguson — which included being given pornographic materials and alcoholic beverages when he was 13, 14 and 15 years old — was a “positive relationship.”

    “He was eager to keep up the relationship,” Bodkin said. “This was his choice. He was eager to see Ferguson. From his perspective, this was something he was looking forward to.”

    Bodkin has used an example of ancient Greek society in providing examples of how molestation of children causes no harm. He stats that if no harm is done, and if it felt good to the child, then the child will probably "look forward" to the contact.

    So again, my advice: *Don't mention Bodkin.* The guy is a creep, unless you like that kind of thing.

    III.
    I think it's probably correct that Manly is doing his job so that he can earn money. Do you have a job, Ron? Do you cash the paycheck, or do you find money distasteful?

    I'm going to speculate that Manly also sleeps well at night knowing that he's responsible for preventing many, many, many very traumatic molestations. If he doesn't, he should.

    IV.
    Victims of child sexual abuse are VERY WELL documented to have significantly more stress related diseases heart disease, nasty digestive tract issues (like severe Crohn's disease) and even cancers. Any child molestation victim that receives any kind of settlement would be well advised to hang onto the money so they are covered for the likely medical expenses that they are likely to face.

     
  • Ronald Brown posted at 5:15 pm on Tue, May 1, 2012.

    gipper Posts: 116

    To Mr. Reynard and Ms. Clark….some food for thought:

    I. Contradictory Testimony of Mr. Trotter
    I (and others) have mentioned that Mr. Trotter has given contradictory testimony of when his abuse took place. After his “repressed” memories returned, he remembered that the abuse started when he was 7-10 years old. Father Kelly did not know Travis Trotter until he was ten years old!! When Travis “recovered” his memories, he remembers that the abuse continued until he was in 7th grade. Fr. Kelly was not in Annunciation at this time. Mr. Trotter seemed to recount the details pretty vividly and graphically particularly where they occurred (motel rooms, rectory, walking path, etc). If he had such a clear account of what happened, I think he could remember what grades these assaults happened. But with repressed memory this is not important.
    It is amazing since so many people from SNAP link O’Grady with Fr. Kelly. When O’Grady’s victims came forward, there were several cases that confirmed what the initial sexual assault victim experienced. With Fr Kelly, we have seen NO other student, teacher, staff, etc file a complaint against Fr. Kelly from the time he was a pastor at Annunciation. On the contrary, these people have been supportive of him and have stood with him throughout this entire ordeal. Do these sound like people drinking the Kool-Aid as well?

    II. Repressed Memory-Bogus Theory
    Dr. Bodkin (MD, Yale) and Professor of Psychiatry at Harvd debunked the theory of repressed memory in academic journals that were based on FACTS and REASON. In addition, several other leading psychiatrists signed on to his journal articles. Moreover, SNAP argues that Dr. Bodkin is a “wacko”. If they have a case, they should take it to Harvard University and their medical school. The administration seems to think he is doing a pretty good job as he is a tenured professor, and he teaches and works in one of the best hospitals for dealing with psychiatric cases. If SNAP were to ask the psychiatrist for the plaintiff (Dr. Kuo), I am sure she would agree with the findings in his research.

    I find that it is ludicrous in this day and age that an “expert” in repressed memory is given greater value as being an expert than a Harvard medical school professor. The last time I checked Harvard Medical School was ranked as the best medical school IN THE WORLD.

    As others have mentioned, with the bar set so low that “repressed memory” can hold one liable for large damages, other entities with deep pockets (school districts, other religious institutions, towns/cities, etc) will also find troubled souls with “repressed memories” looking for a big cash payday. I would be worried as a teacher, public official, etc that I could be dragged into a case like this off nebulous information and ultimately held liable.

    III. Allegations
    Yes, other allegations have come forward. As I said, with the money that was won there would be a line out the Stockton court room to get their hand on Diocesan money. It is easier than playing the lottery!!
    As for the word allegations, I can make an allegation against Ms. Sakoda, Mr. Reynard and Ms. Clark that they broke into my house and stole items. Does that make it true? Obviously not!! But under statute, the authorities MUST investigate, and the parties under the presumption of innocence clause of Constitution are innocent until PROVEN guilty.
    I question the timing as these came to light right when the trial was getting public attention. In addition, Mr. Manly is already representing one of the parties involved which shows a conflict of interest. The Trotter investigation was brought criminally, but it did not meet the preponderance of evidence to bring it to trial in a criminal court. Hence, he brought a trial in civil court where the threshold for liability is much lower, and he can recover monetary damages for “repressed” memories ($$$).
    The Calaveras allegations (under California statute) have one year from the time allegations are filed to show there is a preponderance of evidence to bring this to trial. At this point, the district attorney and other authorities do not have enough evidence to bring this to trial criminally. The one year will expire in September, and the only recourse will be to pursue a civil trial…and monetary damages!!
    Manly is in this purely for the money. His firm does not collect any money from their clients until damages are assessed. He fronts money for almost all the expenses. If he pursued criminal trials, he would be paying all the expenses and have little or no money for time spent on the case. In other words, this is not a sustainable business model.
    With a civil trial, he gets 30-35% of the final liability damages. It is my estimate he walked away with around $1.2 million. That is not bad for a few months of work. I am sure with Travis Trotter’s fine Oscar worthy performance that he is already reviewing future Academy candidates.

    IV. It is all about the money
    For Manly, Travis Trotter and others that follow, it is all about the money. I highlighted above that Manly and sharks like him cannot survive on criminal cases. His firm would go bankrupt. Civil trials and the damages awarded from deep pockets drive his firm.
    Travis Trotter said at his news conference that this case was not about the money. If so, why does he give up his damages to a charity that supports abuse victims, wounded veterans, etc? I am not holding my breath for this to happen. It seems with his share of the $3.75 million the “repressed memories” faded quickly.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 4:21 pm on Tue, May 1, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405


    I would like to correct misinformation that Melanie Sakoda posted at 2:51 pm on Tue, May 1, 2012.

    She stated that the authorities determined that the crimes committed against Travis ( first name basis) were beyond the statute of limitations.

    This is blatantly misleading and inflammatory.
    The authorities have not determined that Mike Kelly committed any crimes against Mr Trotter. There were accusations that were never proven to be true as there is no physical evidence that a crime was committed. I can see why SNAP stated these were crimes ( past tense) since they have repeatedly articulated that they have never met a false accuser and assumes the Catholic priest guilty simply because of the accusation.

    Melanie also stated... “ where the jury found that he had been abused by Kelly” …

    For me this is characterizing what happened in a false light that Melanie desires. The jury was given instructions as to how to determine guilty. If a jurist found that it was 50% plus a feather “MORE LIKELY” that he committed the act, then they find guilt. With a two hour deliberation, there was no time to look at the facts of the case...just an emotional hang um high mentality. Melanie inexplicably stated that they found that Mr Trotter was abused by Kelly, which implies certainty at 100%. That is not what happened.


     
  • Bruce Reynard posted at 4:00 pm on Tue, May 1, 2012.

    Bruce Reynard Posts: 60

    Not sure why I should feel guilty about my post. It was filled with good advice regarding SNAP.

    It really is tiring to read with all caps, and most of the internet reading world does not take well to it. I suppose if you're a court reporter or a police officer, you're used to seeing it that way.

    When I see all caps, I tend to just skim for words that jump out rather than read fully. You DO want to be taken seriously in your posts, don't you?

     
  • Bruce Reynard posted at 3:51 pm on Tue, May 1, 2012.

    Bruce Reynard Posts: 60

    Darrell, I was molested by a child molester, and I do have an axe to grind: I don't like child molesters. And neither should anyone else.

    I was not molested by a priest, I have no interest in pursuing priests per se, and I'm at least as objective or non-objective as you have been. You seem to have just as big an axe as I do. I have not called you names or accused you of crimes, as you have done to others on these forums.

    I don't even normally speak up about a case unless I'm very certain that the charges are legitimate. In this case I believe that Father Kelly has deceived you all, and in the process made many good people embarrassed.

    While I may have angry discussions on boards like this, and been frustrated with people who are so blind and refuse to see the truth, it also is true that I know what it's like to feel the kind of pain you all are feeling about being deceived by Father Kelly for so long, and by those who knew, and did nothing.

    This has never been about money. It's always been about broken trust.

     
  • Treacy Elliott posted at 3:06 pm on Tue, May 1, 2012.

    Treacy Elliott Posts: 75

    AND BY THE WAY, MY ORIGINAL COMMENTS WERE NOT DIRECTED TO YOU.......FEELING GUILTY??

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 3:03 pm on Tue, May 1, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    CONTINUED...

    In other words, what we have here is an organization who gives their participants “titles” like Northern California regional director, East Bay director etc etc... all to give the false impression that the SNAP organization representatives is somehow legitimate. ( that is how the get so much press)
    So who are these people? Answer, people claiming they have been abused... some maybe have, some think they have and some most likely are in it only for the big payday. Not all are SNAP representatives, but all have claimed to be abused themselves. All have an ax to grind which prevents them from any kind of objectivity.
    These people have no professional training. SNAP does not offer any professional therapies or treatment to help “real” victims. No, they simply are after the money and inappropriate perceived revenge.. Why are they so angry now after Travis Trotter got his millions? Well because they have not gotten theirs yet.

     
  • Treacy Elliott posted at 3:01 pm on Tue, May 1, 2012.

    Treacy Elliott Posts: 75

    I'M WELL AWARE OF HOW TO TURN CAPS OFF, IT IS MY PREFERENCE TO USE THEM. IN MY POINT OF VIEW, IT IS THE FALSE ACCUSERS SUPPORTED BY SNAP THAT ARE THE CREEPS. MY ADVICE TO SNAP. IF THEY TRUELY CARED ABOUT THE VICTIMS, THEY WOULDN'T USE THE TACTICS THEY USE. THERE IS MUCH MORE EVIL OUT THERE, INCLUDING IN THEIR ORGANIZATION, THAN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH (OF WHICH I AM NOT A MEMBER). WHY IS IT THAT THEY ONLY TARGET THEM? OTHER RELIGOUS ORGANIZATIONS COVER UP AS MUCH AS THEY DO.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 3:01 pm on Tue, May 1, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Reynard stated...It's always very painful when someone you trusted turns out to have deceived you so deeply. It does make you feel very violated...

    Interesting thought...

    Child advocate organizations in general are trusted and perceived to be pure in motive and intent by many people. I wonder how violated all these people will feel by all these anti priest, anti Catholic church mouth pieces that are associated with SNAP are not child advocates at all in my opinion.

    I also have noticed that most of the people who have posted angry bitter foaming at the mouth commentary are people who “CLAIM” they have been abused by priests themselves.
    Mr Reynard in other papers "claimed" he was abused and so have all members of SNAP.
    I read up on SNAP and it turns out nation wide, they only have three paid employees with everyone else in their position as volunteer working out of their house.

     
  • Melanie Sakoda posted at 2:51 pm on Tue, May 1, 2012.

    Melanie Sakoda Posts: 16

    I would like to correct some misinformation which has been posted in this comment thread.

    First, Father Michael Kelly was not acquitted on the criminal complaint made by Travis Trotter. Instead, the authorities determined that the crimes committed against Travis were beyond the statute of limitations. Thus, the merits of Travis' complaint were never addressed. Travis then brought his complaint to civil court, where the jury found that he had been abused by Kelly.

    Second, the investigation in Calaveras County was initiated in the fall of 2011 by a man who was within the statute of limitations. At that time there was no settlement in Travis' case. In fact, the trial was still months away! Moreover, according to The Union Democrat, the Calaveras County sheriff's investigators announced that more victims had come forward at least a week before the settlement in Travis' case. Thus, while it might be possible to suggest that the Diocese of Stockton settled the case because more victims had come forward, it is patently untrue to say that victims came forward because of the settlement.

    Melanie Jula Sakoda
    Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests (SNAP)
    SNAP East Bay Director
    melanie.sakoda@gmail.com
    925-708-6175


    Another younger man brought a criminal complaint against Kelly in the fall

     
  • Bruce Reynard posted at 2:23 pm on Tue, May 1, 2012.

    Bruce Reynard Posts: 60

    I don't know if there are any SNAP members here. I'm not, and I don't normally have overly much to say about priests or Catholics. There are plenty of organizations that have charismatic leadership positions that have contact with children, and are a natural point of gravitation for pedophiles. Having leadership that turns a blind eye only exacerbates the problem. Catholics don't have the corner on that market, but some diocese do have more of an institutional problem than others.

    I do have some advice as far as SNAP goes: If the parishioners would pay attention to and acknowledge the problem amongst themselves, remove the management in the institution that is looking the other way when these creeps turn up, it's likely that SNAP would leave you alone. SNAP doesn't like the institutional cover-up.

    Relax a bit, have a glass of wine, and press that "Caps Lock" button until the little light goes out.

     
  • Treacy Elliott posted at 1:20 pm on Tue, May 1, 2012.

    Treacy Elliott Posts: 75

    YOU HAVE TO HAND IT TO SURVIVORS NETWORK OF THOSE ABUSED BY PRIESTS (BETTER KNOWN AS SNAP) IN THEIR METHOD OF OPERATION IN ATTACKING THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND ANY MEMBER OF THE CHURCH (PRIEST, BISHOPS, CARDINALS AND NUNS) ACCUSED OF BEING PEDOPHILES. THEIR ORGANIZATION PUTS FORTH AN ENORMUS AMOUNT OF PROPAGANDA, SPEAR HEADED BY MEMBERS FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO CREATE AN ATMOSPHERE THAT PROMOTES GUILT, REGARDLESS OF THE FACTS.
    EVEN WHEN THEY LOSE, THEY CANNOT ADMIT THEY WERE WRONG AND APOLOGIZE. THEY NEED TO TAKE A PARTING SHOT CLAIMING THAT JUSTICE WAS NOT SERVED. THEY HAVE NO REMORSE FOR RUINING THE LIVES OF INNOCENT INDIVIDUALS AS LONG AS THERE IS A PAYDAY IN THEIR FUTURE.
    FOR THOSE VICTIMS OF ABUSE THAT FAIL TO EMBRACE THEIR METHODS, THEY GET THE LABEL OF “DISPLACED ANGER” AND ARE SHOVED TO THE SIDE FOR THOSE “VICTIMS” THAT ARE MORE ACCEPTABLE OF THEIR METHODOLOGY. IN OTHER WORDS, THEIR GOAL IS NOT TO PROTECT AND SUPPORT VICTIMS, IT IS TO MAKE MONEY. IN 2007 SLIGHTLY MORE THAN ONE TENTH OF ONE PERCENT WAS SPENT SUPPORTING VICTIMS

     
  • Bruce Reynard posted at 12:42 pm on Tue, May 1, 2012.

    Bruce Reynard Posts: 60

    It's always very painful when someone you trusted turns out to have deceived you so deeply. It does make you feel very violated.

    I'm sorry you're hurting so much.

     
  • Ronald Brown posted at 10:45 am on Tue, May 1, 2012.

    gipper Posts: 116

    I am having repressed memories from Bruce Reynard and Arabella Clark. Somebody...quick...get me Manly's phone number!!!

    It looks like from his news conference with media coverage and his $3.75 million (minus Manly's $1.2 million cut) have made his repressed memories fade pretty quickly. He will be up and flying again in no time.

     
  • Bruce Reynard posted at 10:23 am on Tue, May 1, 2012.

    Bruce Reynard Posts: 60

    Kim, you don't seem very educated about the effects of child sexual molestation on the victims. I'd think that if it's such a concern to you that you're posting comments on the topic, you'd make yourself aware of the basics.

    Do you make it a habit of poking fun at people who are horribly distressed? Why do you suppose it is that you do that?

     
  • Bruce Reynard posted at 10:05 am on Tue, May 1, 2012.

    Bruce Reynard Posts: 60

    There was no acquittal. Acquittal occurs after charges have been filed, and either the defendant is found or declared to be not guilty, or the charges are not further perused, (For example if prosecution is abandoned.)

    Previously, accusations were made against Kelly, and investigated, but at the time, the prosecutors decided not to file charges, thus there was never an acquittal.

    It is not odd that people come forward in child sexual abuse cases after other people do. You may not understand or like my explanation, but it is true, apart from any other possible financial motives:

    Victims of child sexual abuse feel very guilty, and we learn this feeling at a very young age, and we carry into adulthood. We also often think that we MUST be the ONLY victim, since there aren't others, AND we feel that it is somehow our fault, and that WE are the ones in the wrong. Once we realize that we could have stopped others from being molested, it only adds to the horrible guilt.

    When people start coming forward, we realize that we were NOT the only one, and that others have come forward, and it makes it somewhat easier to go to the police. It's a complex set of factors, but really it's very simple: Once we know that others have been victimized, we speak up.

    There are complex statute of limitations relating to both criminal and civil charges in these kinds of cases in California:

    Criminal Charges: Male sexual child abuse victims most frequently aren't able to face this stuff until we are older adults... 30's to 40's, often when our own children are reaching the age that we were when the abuse happened. This means that we are usually far, far too late to file criminal charges in California. Civil charges are the only viable alternative.

    Civil charges also have limitations, and they are complex. We have to file civil complaints within a few years of the time that we realize that there has been impact on our lives. This means that if one is going to file CRIMINAL charges, they then have to pursue CIVIL charges fairly soon thereafter. There are exceptions, but they require more stringent proof about WHEN you realized that there was actual damage.

    All of this means that filing criminal charges, and then waiting around to see how the criminal trial turns out before filing civil charges is fairly risky, in terms of coming in under the limitations.

     
  • Bruce Reynard posted at 9:01 am on Tue, May 1, 2012.

    Bruce Reynard Posts: 60

    "To my knowledge, both the diocesan law firm and my attorney's law firm fully reviewed every word of the court case and came to the conclusion that there was nothing that could be appealed."

    Probably the only thing of value the molester has ever said.

    Fascinating that a Catholic priest would list as the things that keep him going (in order) as:

    1) Truth (Really?)

    2) His supporter's belief and faith *IN FATHER KELLY*

    3) Family

    4) and lastly, GOD

    Hmm...

    #1: "You shall have no other gods before me."

    I wonder just what the heck-fire this dude was teaching about theology, if indeed that ever really entered his mind?

     
  • Kim Parigoris posted at 8:37 am on Tue, May 1, 2012.

    Kim Parigoris Posts: 470

    No need to get nasty and make personal attacks, Ms. Clark..It just seems very odd that now that the Diocese will have to pay this 3.75 that new cases are arising, after this case has been widely publicized for years now. Unless I am mistaken (which I certainly may be) I thought he was criminally acquitted a couple years ago. Do you think these people will not follow the same path? If he is acquitted criminally, they can still go for the civil trial.

     
  • Arabella Clark posted at 7:41 am on Tue, May 1, 2012.

    Arabella Posts: 129

    These are criminal cases, not civil. Victims don't get ANY money for filing a criminal complaint with the police. You might want to educate yourself about the difference between a criminal and civil complaint.

    Gee, glad you know so much more than law enforcement about the new victims who have come forward. When they assign a detective and are busy interviewing witnesses and looking for out of town victims, you know it's serious.

    How about that psychiatric treatment center Kelly was sent to for his pedophile tendencies, huh? I know one parishioner from St. Patrick's who is very angry that he lied to her about why he was leaving.

    Drip, drip, drip.

     
  • Kim Parigoris posted at 6:56 am on Tue, May 1, 2012.

    Kim Parigoris Posts: 470

    Gee, all these new cases couldn't have anything to do with the $3.75 million that the dioceses will have to pay to the plaintiff and his attorney, woudl it? Father Kelly must have had all these people under some kind of spell, where their memories would be repressed for decades...Probably caused by that incense they use at the Catholic Masses.

     
  • Arabella Clark posted at 4:34 am on Tue, May 1, 2012.

    Arabella Posts: 129

    And the criminal investigation continues:

    http://www.mymotherlode.com/news/local/1607386/Father-Kelly-Facing-Criminal-Charges.html

    Excerpt:

    The Calaveras County Sheriff's Office has been investigating additional allegations made against the priest. Kelly has reportedly returned to his native Ireland. If additional charges are brought against Kelly, it could potentially lead to him being extradited back to the U.S.

    Sheriff Gary K***z has released the following statement, "The Calaveras County Sheriff's Office is currently completing interviews with persons associated with the Father Kelly case. Attempts are being made to locate potential witnesses and victims, however this effort is complicated by the fact that many persons now reside out of the area. One Detective from the Sheriff's Office is specifically assigned to the case, and it is the intention of the Sheriff's Office to submit a report to the District Attorney within the next 30 days."

    The Sheriff's Office notes that no further information will be released until the full report is submitted to the DA's Office.

     
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