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• posted at 5:05 am on Wed, Jan 27, 2010.

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  Sven: No one is arguing that Delta college is not important. The argument is should an instructor's salary compete with a U.S.Presidential cabinet secretary's salary?

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• posted at 2:59 pm on Fri, Jan 22, 2010.

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  Duh. The bonus units an instructor receives for extra students represent a very small increase in pay. Instructors would make much more money by simply teaching an extra class section for those extra students. With the massive cuts in class sections last year and this year, students are begging to get into classes, and sympathetic instructors are taking everyone they can possibly manage. It is certainly not for the minimal extra pay from bonus units.

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• posted at 2:21 pm on Fri, Jan 22, 2010.

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  duh...those are called bonus units. If what you say is true; that Instructor is violating Ed Code. Report him/her to their Division Supervisor. But shhhh....don't tell em it was me that told you.I want all the jealous people who make less than the Instructor's at Delta or Doctors, Dentists and Judges; How long did it take me to fully train for my job? And then think about how long it took them.

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• posted at 7:12 am on Fri, Jan 22, 2010.

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  I had an instructor that had enrolled so many students in the class that he asked one group to come the first 30 mins of the class and a second to come in the last 30 mins...felt that I wasn't getting the quality instruction that I was paying for. Later found out that he was getting extra money by adding so many students.

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• posted at 1:23 am on Fri, Jan 22, 2010.

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  Educators at Delta College does not make any money or product to produce profit.Well not directly, but thanks to their effort, they produce thousands and thousands of other taxpaying citizens like themselves. The folks that "make money and produce a profit" more than likely attended at least some college and many have degrees. People with college educations make more money than those that don't. They are taxed on that income. Which is almost certainly higher than those with a HS diploma or drop out.Now don't tell me the stories of the couple of people who didn't go to college and are now multi-millionaires. We've all heard of Alex Spanos and others like him.Without Delta College instructors, where would all the x-ray techs, public safety officers, HVAC, and others learn their trades? On the job? I'd be a little nervous if the gal x-raying my broken ankle was on her first day and her supervisor called in sick.

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• posted at 3:17 pm on Thu, Jan 21, 2010.

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  Flyguy is 100% right about lowering the cost by having current faculty teach overload classes. It is simple mathematics and common sense."Think before speak," criticize the politicians all you want... they have caused all of our financial problems in this state. The faculty at Delta are just hard working folks. They should not be harassed for making a decent honest living. Yes, us taxpayers do pay the teacher's salaries, but the teacher's didn't create the pay scale at Delta. There is a big difference between politicians who make the rules and set their own salaries, and professors who are taking on an extra big load to provide for their families. We should not criticize those who want to work harder and make extra money. That is point that I am trying to make.

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• posted at 1:45 pm on Thu, Jan 21, 2010.

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  As President Rodriguez said in the article, the reason that these instructors earn over $100,000 is because they work huge amounts of overtime. It would be much too expensive to hire enough full-time faculty to teach all of the classes Delta offers, so the full-time faculty teach extra classes to keep costs down.Full-time faculty who teach overload classes earn exactly the same pay as part-time faculty hired from the outside, which is less than half of the pay rate for teaching full time. Thus the college saves an enormous amount of money. If Delta were to eliminate overload classes and hire only full-time faculty to teach regular loads then all of the faculty would earn less than $100,000. However, the costs would be much higher and would require the elimination of a large number of classes due to their higher salaries and benefits.So think carefully about what you want. Allow current faculty to teach overload classes at a fraction of their salaries, or hire a large number of new full-time instructors with higher salary and benefit costs.

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• posted at 12:36 pm on Thu, Jan 21, 2010.

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  California Assembly members get $117,000 a year, plus benefits.

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• posted at 8:02 am on Thu, Jan 21, 2010.

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  Pollygas - Complaining about public sector jobs is perfectly appropriate because we taxpayers are the source of their salaries. The salaries are just part of the story, benefits account for another 30 to 40%. Exerpt from Willie Brown's 1/3/10 sfgate article"Talking about this is politically unpopular and potentially even career suicide for most officeholders. But at some point, someone is going to have to get honest about the fact that 80 percent of the state, county and city budget deficits are due to employee costs.The deal used to be that civil servants were paid less than private sector workers in exchange for an understanding that they had job security for life. But we politicians, pushed by our friends in labor, gradually expanded pay and benefits to private-sector levels while keeping the job protections and layering on incredibly generous retirement packages that pay ex-workers almost as much as current workers."Brown is not exactly a conservative but he knows what the score is.

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• posted at 7:53 am on Thu, Jan 21, 2010.

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  Reality1- Your comments make me think that you are also on the government payroll. In case you were unaware, Delta College does not make any money or product to produce profit. Therefore, the budget comes from we the taxpayers. Any jobs that are paid for by taxpayer money are fair game for we (The taxpayers) to criticize. You have an arrogant tone to your comments which tells me that you may not be as objective as you should be (See Webster's "biased"). The revolution is coming and it is too late to stop it. Our choices are to bring public payroll and benefits back into the realm of reality and make them comparable to the private sector (Which funds the public sector) or go bankrupt. I am tired of seeing my children and grandchildren's future compromised by back room deals for political cronies that harm our State and National economies. Many of these teachers have tenure which means that they don't have to produce to remain employed. This is unrealistic and not reflective of the greatness which is the American work ethic. Job security must be predicated on performance. Then we will get value for our hard earned tax dollars.

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• posted at 6:37 am on Thu, Jan 21, 2010.

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  It's certainly not fair when instructors are making thousands of dollars in overtime while other nonfaculty employees are being laid off. That overtime money could have been used to save jobs. It's cheaper to hire a parttime faculty to teach. The fulltime faculty make close to $80 an hour whereas partime make about $50.

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• posted at 5:26 am on Thu, Jan 21, 2010.

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  Thank you. I learned that an education and hard work pay off.... If someone is unhappy, they shouldn't just complain about it, they should do something about it. Someone on that list taught me that in in the late 1980's before I was a teenager.

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• posted at 5:15 am on Thu, Jan 21, 2010.

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  pllygas sounds like you must have a successful job. Kudos for going the extra mile.

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• posted at 3:04 am on Thu, Jan 21, 2010.

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  People who complain about how much other people make are liberal losers. This is America. If you don't like what you are doing and you don't think you get paid enough, then go out there and do something about it. If there is an incentive to work overtime and make more money, then someone should be able to make more money. Beats paying for 2 lazy employees + both of their benefits/retirement. How would you like for your salary to be printed in the local newspaper? Sucks, doesn't it? So, moral of the story. Don't bitch about what others make. Go out and do something with your life and be thankful for yourself and others who work hard to make this country the best place in the world to live!

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• posted at 4:10 pm on Wed, Jan 20, 2010.

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  wow...ive been goin to delta since 07..ive had 10 of these instructors....had i known what they made...i wouldve made Delta get their moneyz worth outta these people!!!

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• posted at 2:19 pm on Wed, Jan 20, 2010.

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  "community"

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• posted at 2:19 pm on Wed, Jan 20, 2010.

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  If these people had any ethics at all, which obviously they don't, they would realize that most of those paying their $175,000 salaries to "teach" or $130,000 to "counsel," don't even make half of this. Next time I hear some coummintuty college crybaby sniffling about how they don't have any money, there will be no sympathy from me.

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• posted at 11:31 am on Wed, Jan 20, 2010.

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  LodiKen.....go for it. It's a great job. There are about 600 employees at Delta College and (to my count) 194 are on this list. I have to admit, I am shocked.I would have never imagined that almost 1 in 3 employees as making over 100,000.And Siser......please stop acting so jealous.

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• posted at 9:48 am on Wed, Jan 20, 2010.

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  Just found my new career path. Instructor at junior college.

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• posted at 9:47 am on Wed, Jan 20, 2010.

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  Does anyone working at Delta not make over $100,000/year?

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• posted at 8:06 am on Wed, Jan 20, 2010.

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  Reality1, you crack me up. You sound like some fat cat who sits and does nothing all day. I'm glad you got your degree, I did too. But at least I can understand why people feel this way.The state is bankrupt. Give everyone who's been on assistance for more than 2 years a bus ticket outta here, or a plane ticket back to wherever they came.I think that these salaries are a little out of line, but what about the students who get "their check" and run? Many of them have been running that scam for years. Granted, they have cracked down lately, but I'd like to see an article examining how much tax money is distributed to go-nowhere students. I;ll bet it is more than all the Instructors put together.

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• posted at 8:02 am on Wed, Jan 20, 2010.

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  That was reality1. A college education and a degree are priceless. Thank you teachers from pre-school to advanced academics.

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• posted at 8:00 am on Wed, Jan 20, 2010.

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  I know that overload pay is only about half. Believe me, I know. And I am sure that a few people on this list are cramming in extra online classes. Hell, there was one Instructor living in France. Don't see that person on the list, maybe the college put a stop to that crap.And by they way. At least the teachers aren't stealing money.....like a former board member from Lodi.

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• posted at 8:00 am on Wed, Jan 20, 2010.

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  reality!, I'm with you.

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• posted at 6:37 am on Wed, Jan 20, 2010.

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  That "sucking sound" is your tax money subsidizing teachers and support positions for our "junior" college.Can you say gravy train?

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• posted at 4:28 am on Wed, Jan 20, 2010.

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  All you clowns crying get a life and get a degree and go get the teaching job at a junior college. Sob Sob Sob!!!!

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• posted at 3:51 am on Wed, Jan 20, 2010.

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  So I looked up the guy at the bottom of the $100,000, Professor Harry Mersmann.He's got a BA from Reed College, and a PhD University of California, Irvine.And he's the one on the bottom of the list.

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• posted at 3:34 am on Wed, Jan 20, 2010.

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  The 80 teaching positions that were cut were part-time faculty. The full-time faculty still has not taken their fair share in cuts. Meanwhile, they continue to rape the college with their outrageous salaries while other employee groups continue to suffer.

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• posted at 2:25 am on Wed, Jan 20, 2010.

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  educator FYI the overload pay is half the regular pay. That is why Delta likes part time and adjunct instructors.

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• posted at 2:23 am on Wed, Jan 20, 2010.

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  Why not make more money if you want to do more? Typically schools do not offer overloads thus no incentive thus terrible teachers. Delta has some outstanding instructors and now you know why. If yo think it is too much you are just jealous. Go out and get your own job that will pay so you don't have to cry.

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• posted at 1:27 am on Wed, Jan 20, 2010.

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  Too bad it doesn't show how much is overtime/overload.

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• posted at 12:48 am on Wed, Jan 20, 2010.

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  That's disgusting! People need to wake up & stop their griping about State employees making too much money. NEWSFLASH: The directors of enormous State departments and agencies make about $50K LESS than the president of this local junior college, yet they have far more responsibility and visibility. Professionals such as lawyers, engineers, etc. make far LESS working for the State than many of the "instructors" listed who only have master's degrees, not even PhD's. Something needs to be done to reign in this kind of spending. Those "instructors" simply are not worth in excess of $150k, especially considering they don't even work a full year! They get vacations galore!

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• posted at 12:42 am on Wed, Jan 20, 2010.

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  Every teacher/instructor I know who got into the J.C. system (not just Delta,but Mendocino,Modesto and Merced) have said it's the best gig in the world.Looks like the cat is out of the bag.

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• posted at 12:29 am on Wed, Jan 20, 2010.

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  this is insanity! Instructors making $11000 Less than the school president. A police chief making $118000 - how many officers does the Delta police force have 15-20? Instructors making more than the deans and department heads. I dont see how anybody can ever again question the salaries paid to city employees. What a joke!

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