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Posted: Wednesday, February 19, 2014 12:00 am

A Lodi woman who was walking her two small dogs near Salas Park on Monday afternoon says one was mauled for several minutes by two large pit bulls until nearby citizens could scare them away.

As her Lhasa apso mix recovers from severe wounds in an animal hospital, Lodi Animal Services say they’ve identified the owner of the pit bulls and are continuing to investigate the incident.

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  • Mike Adams posted at 6:12 pm on Thu, Feb 20, 2014.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1561

    Jane... I have come across some very big mean A$$ looking dogs. I found one near an elementary school with a small companion. They didn't look like they were roaming. I was able to befriend the yeti like dog and his owner was responsible enough to have a tag on him with a WORKING PHONE NUMBER!. I called her, "your dogs are out, come get them". She worked in Tracy couldn't leave. Turned out she lived across the street, apparently someone working at her house didn't secure the gate. I got them both inside and locked 'em up. A good save. Nobody hurt. The dogs didn't get run over.

    I have saved many dogs over the years, big and little. A neighbor had a couple of pit bulls who always got out. I always walked them home, re-chained them.
    The secret is to never show or even feel any fear.

    I grew up in and lived a large part of my life in the country. We always got some dog or dogs that no one cared enough to even attempt to find them. Some beautiful dogs. A couple of Golden Retrievers, no collars. Someone picked them up but couldn't continue to care for them, and the county at the time wouldn't come get them. I saw them about a month later emaciated, hungry. I'm sure they died horribly. Very hard to take. But you can't save every dog you see. I only attempt if they have a collar with a tag that has a phone number. A lot of happy reunions but one time I had to call an owner when I found their dog dead. A hard call to make, they were excited. The dog was old, walked off. I'm sure they were good owners, ads in the papers everyday. It really hurt to give them the news. I told them it looked like he just laid down and went to sleep, but that wasn't really true.

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 3:32 pm on Thu, Feb 20, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Paglia wrote: "I know a lot o people that own pit bulls that swear to their lovable nature. To call all Pits vicious because of the actions of a few is wrong."

    I agree that to call an entire breed vicious is wrong. One must take into account the fact that many people get pit bulls in order to train them as watch dogs or fighting dogs.

    When I brought home my golden puppy four years ago, my daughter was dog sitting her friend's pit bull, Delilah that we had dog sat before. She was a muscular bruiser who was definitely frightening in appearance. She took the puppy under her wing for the few days she was with us and, although I did keep a close eye on them when they were together, I didn't live in fear that the puppy would get mauled.

    However, when we adopted our bassett mix, we got her from an owner who also had 5 pit bulls. Although he "claimed" to have kept her separate from the pits, it was obvious that she had learned some pretty clever fighting skills. When she "wrestles" with our other dog, she goes for the belly, the throat, and the backs of the legs - fortunately without biting hard, but all the same she knows the vulnerable spots. We concluded that the genius who owned her before might have used her as a bait dog to train his pits for fighting. Fortunately, she survived the experience.

  • Kevin Paglia posted at 3:24 pm on Thu, Feb 20, 2014.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2106

    I don't carry a knife with me, but that doesn't mean am defenseless. I know a few tricks and am perfectly wiling to sacrifice an aggressive animal for my safety.

    The Eyes, groin and ribs of dog are good targets. Also saw once on a "how to" tv show that IF the dog already has his mouth on your arm, grad the back f the neck and shove your arm FURTHER into it's mouth. It creates a gagging situation for the dog. (Ironically, same tactic for an Alligator attack in water. Alligators have a flap in the back of their throat that keep them from drowning in an attack. You want to force tat don and it lets water into their lungs and stomach. Most of the time they will release.)

  • Treacy Elliott posted at 12:56 pm on Thu, Feb 20, 2014.

    Treacy Elliott Posts: 77

    Realistically, you can exchange any dog or breed with pit bull in this story. The only difference is the size and breeding of the dog. The owner is the person responsible for the behavior of the animal. I've owned pit mixes, collies, shepards and labradors and any of these breeds can cause significant damage to humans and other dogs. Pound for pound a small breed dog can be more aggressive than any large breed dog, they just don't have the size to cause the damage a larger breed does. Unfortunately in this case, I feel sorry for the dogs, all of them as they are a product of their environment, just like children are, do we blame the child or the parent.

  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 12:32 pm on Thu, Feb 20, 2014.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2370

    Well, at least my comments garnered a response from you Ms. Middlecamp. And I really do appreciate your sarcasm where you state: "Pit Bull Terriers are sweet and loving dogs," and especially where you state that you're ". . . more timid around a chihuahua than I am a PBT, and most dog groomers will share the same opinion." You truly had me LOL-ing!! Thanks for the laughs.

  • Elise Middlecamp posted at 10:20 am on Thu, Feb 20, 2014.

    Elise Middlecamp Posts: 20

    Try to read the article again, it clearly states which dogs were on leash and which weren't.

    Also, TV judges are scripted.

  • Jane Petersent posted at 8:05 am on Thu, Feb 20, 2014.

    separationcs Posts: 1

    Agree 100%. Well said. I too, walk with a knife and have run the scenario through my mind. I have been challenged by a ghastly squat blue beast. The owner telling me it is only 8 months old and friendly. I had my knife drawn and told him if he wanted his thing to see 9 months, he would get it under control and not let me see it loose again. Terrifying. It was looking at me and my dog like steak. My dog (100 lb. Pointer) was hiding behind my legs, terrified. She knew.

  • Mike Adams posted at 6:23 am on Thu, Feb 20, 2014.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1561

    Kevin.... It can really drag...... and stop all the damn pop-ups and drop downs!

    Sometimes it takes hours for something to appear.

    As to the dog problem. Would a very sharp knife across the throat of the attacking animal(s) resolve the problem quickly? On my walks, if it's one animal, I'll challenge it. If two or more, left arm up, knife in right hand. I've never had to use it, but I would. Far more effective than a gun, unless you can put it against the top of their head and not shoot your left arm in their mouth in the process.

  • Katie Horak posted at 4:19 am on Thu, Feb 20, 2014.

    SinfulDivinity Posts: 13

    The owners of the two pitbulls should be held financially responsible for any veterinary bills. What if that was a child that those two pitbulls mauled?? People would start to care then... Since these two pitbulls have attacked before and their owners haven't done anything to prevent it from happening again (obviously they don't care enough about their dogs), the dogs should be euthanized and the owners SHOULD be ruled to never own a dog again. This makes me sick that people are blaming the woman for walking her small, leashed dogs, when two unleashed (mind you they've already attacked before) pitbulls attacked her dog.

    I hope Bruce makes a full recovery and the owners of those pits take full responsibility for their negligence.

  • Charlene Edgar posted at 1:05 am on Thu, Feb 20, 2014.

    redfox Posts: 1

    I didn't catch whose dogs, if any of these dogs were on a leash or not? And which owners were present, and in control of their own animal(s), sounds like one owner/one dog controlled, one dog uncontrolled, and one absent owner with two uncontrolled dogs...for some time. Did an Animal Control Officer respond to the incident? Why?
    A second offense for the Pit Bulls, yet the owner wasn't contacted for some time, how long and where were those dogs during this time?
    The article stated, as these dogs had been involved in a previous attack, and the dogs would ..." likely undergo a vicious dog hearing, which could place restrictions on them if they’re deemed vicious, including muzzles, remaining locked in a kennel or euthanasia".
    Was the first attack against animal or human?? Was the owner previously sited? if not, why?
    Am I the only one who watches TV Judges? (second offense PUTS the owner "On Notice" and the Offender on death Row). The Third offense, well this/these dogs will never do it again, and shame/shame on the owners and the County that let this happen (hopefully nothing has died).
    Pit Bulls, were breed for a purpose/work, they need direction and an outlet to be supervised, and active/constructive, but not destructive, same as many of the working/herding breeds. Dogs are pack animals, and without control they run a muck.
    Cathy, you are blessed with some awesome neighbors, who aren't afraid to get involved, glad they were not also hurt. Hope Bruce makes a quick recovery.

    If you did not get, that these particular Pit Bull Dogs are problematic.... read the article again.

  • Merritt Clifton posted at 10:06 pm on Wed, Feb 19, 2014.

    Merritt Clifton Posts: 7

    Of the 4,541 dogs involved in fatal and disfiguring attacks on humans occurring in the U.S. & Canada since September 1982, when I began logging the data, 3,066 (67%) were pit bulls; 548 were Rottweilers; 3,872 were of related molosser breeds, including pit bulls, Rottweilers, mastiffs, boxers, and their mixes. Of the 537 human fatalities, 279 were killed by pit bulls; 86 were killed by Rottweilers; 404 (75%) were killed by molosser breeds. Of the 2,725 people who were disfigured, 1,839 (67%) were disfigured by pit bulls; 320 were disfigured by Rottweilers; 2,293 (83%) were disfigured by molosser breeds. Pit bulls--exclusive of their use in dogfighting--also inflict more than 70 times as many fatal and disfiguring injuries on other pets and livestock as on humans, a pattern unique to the pit bull class. Surveys of dogs offered for sale or adoption indicate that pit bulls and pit mixes are less than 6% of the U.S. dog population; molosser breeds, all combined, are 9%.

  • Kris King posted at 7:26 pm on Wed, Feb 19, 2014.

    Rescuepoor Posts: 1

    Once pit bulls have attacked, they need to be euthanized. You can train dogs to not attack when you are present, but they revert to their instincts when you are out-of-sight. Every day in this country, thousands of gentle, sweet dogs are being killed due to lack of homes. Saving dogs that have already mauled is wrong. It isn't the pits fault that they were bred for dog aggression, but they are still a danger to other animals. And many pits that end up killing humans had already killed a dog or cat.

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 1:51 pm on Wed, Feb 19, 2014.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Yes, poor little Bruce. Hope he recovers well from this terrifying experience.

    There are many pit bulls (including 2 males that are not neutered), pit mixes and whatever others that people usually group into the pit bull "type" that come to the Vinewood dog park, but I've never seen any of them go on the attack.

    Seems like most of the dogs that pester others at the park are small dogs - one little yapper dog was doing a barking dance around my golden the other day and she finally turned and gave it a loud "get off my back" growl and that seemed to solve the problem - the yapper went running. The owner told his dog "you got what you deserved!"

  • Kevin Paglia posted at 12:14 pm on Wed, Feb 19, 2014.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2106

    I know a lot o people that own pit bulls that swear to their lovable nature. To call all Pits vicious because of the actions of a few is wrong. That is like saying all bikers are thugs because o the actions of a few.

  • Elise Middlecamp posted at 10:00 am on Wed, Feb 19, 2014.

    Elise Middlecamp Posts: 20

    Your sarcasm gets you nowhere.

    The owners should be held responsible, and the dogs should be dealt with accordingly. As a citizen who regularly runs on Stockton Street, I agree something should be done about these dogs and their owners. However, I hold the owners more responsible than the dogs.

    Pit Bull Terriers are sweet and loving dogs, hence the long standing nickname of being the nanny dog. I'm more timid around a chihuahua than I am a PBT, and most dog groomers will share the same opinion.

  • Jerome Kinderman posted at 9:08 am on Wed, Feb 19, 2014.

    Jerome R Kinderman Posts: 2370

    I'm sure there must be some mistake. Pit Bulls are gentle, sweet and very lovable. This woman's fierce dogs must have taunted or otherwise teased these dogs who were likely to have been minding their own business.

    I hate it when smaller dogs give these bigger but obviously defenseless Pit Bulls a bad name.

  • Kevin Paglia posted at 8:06 am on Wed, Feb 19, 2014.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2106

    Should be "Any one", not "anne". Text is very slow on the page and I was in a hurry. Sorry for any confusion. Anyone else have issues when commenting on here with letters not showing up? Only happens to me on he Lodi News pages.

  • DeeDee Fitzhugh posted at 7:37 am on Wed, Feb 19, 2014.

    DeeDee Posts: 3

    So sad this happened, poor Bruce, [sad] but before destroying a dog maybe they should get proper training , and ordered to wear muzzles, Killing is never the right answer ! I'm an animal lover and I believe all dogs can be properly trained

  • Kevin Paglia posted at 7:17 am on Wed, Feb 19, 2014.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2106

    Anne else think the OWNER of the pit bulls should also be charged with reckless endangerment for failure to control dangerous animals? Not saying ALL pit bulls are dangerous, but these obviously were.



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