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Posted: Saturday, June 12, 2010 12:00 am

If you've driven for any length of time, chances are fairly high that at some point you have or will see flashing lights in your rearview mirror.

Maybe you were speeding to get to your daughter's dance class. Perhaps you rolled through a stop sign in stereotypical California fashion. Maybe your taillight bulb burned out.

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48 comments:

  • posted at 2:25 am on Fri, Jun 18, 2010.

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    Sven31- Good one! I guess they could tell us their own stories about how they got out of a traffic ticket---or worse. But the last laugh is on them! Instead of a fine of a few hundred dollars they get sentenced to life! I have heard there are more indictments and arrests. It is not of benefit to the local house marketing campaign to actually talk about the rampant fraud. They know the probablity of getting caught is low as long as they have the goods on powerful politicians. The estate agent motto---" make your money when you can---is operative...at least until they start the bankster perp walks. Its the banksters who fund the phoney development and construction loans who are being scrutinized. The computers want to know where the loan money is going, that is not being paid back. Spread some fertilizer here and there. What ever happened to the hundreds of approved housing units on the west side? Were the developments funded? Why or why not?It sure is quiet around here.

     
  • posted at 6:39 am on Thu, Jun 17, 2010.

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    Does anyone find it odd there are no comments allowed on the story (printed to day) "Lodi woman indicted in mortgage scheme that resulted in $5.5 million in foreclosures"

     
  • posted at 6:35 am on Thu, Jun 17, 2010.

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    ed'm'c't'n:Their wives know!! How do you think they met?

     
  • posted at 3:12 pm on Wed, Jun 16, 2010.

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    continued- I listened to them brag to me--like I care---about how good they are with women! So they think women need that advice? Shortmen, puny egos and...! But they wil tell you how alluring and irresistible they are. Too bad their wives don't know! LMAO

     
  • posted at 3:07 pm on Wed, Jun 16, 2010.

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    pre$$ure$on- There is another reason that has nothing to do with GOB connections!1) Cops don't like to pull over late model German automobiles! Instead, most cops arrest people for DWY. DWY sounds like DUI but is just as dangerous to your health!DWY = Driving While Young. When I was first driving I drove custom cars.The paint jobs could cost more than the car! But I never raced them and wouldn't even park them on the street fearing road rash or shopping cart damage. Thats when I learned about BOGUS police stops. I have heard dozens mostly fictional explanations for the stops and NO citations.It made me waste a lot of time while they stared at the car and tried to make "car talk". How do you tell an underachiever with a gun and an alibi to quit wasting your time?Thats why I learned about the CHP plates, courtesy cards and press passes.It's very simple--- Play along with them and let them think you like them...like a real estate agent! Grin and say YES SIR!

     
  • posted at 7:56 am on Wed, Jun 16, 2010.

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    Sven $ Edumacation, I love your blogs and it's time the real"blue boys" and their protectionist games for the well-connected, wealthy, family,friends influential and good old boys are brought to our attention. You know I'm familiar with the many games the same good old boys and their connections, including family and the leaders, management and wealthy play, too. Edu, you have a pretty vast knowledge of this aspect, too, and it's interesting to glean your information that pertains to the crooked local realty business ad games the Lodi management and council run on the citizenry. Too bad those who consider these facts to always be a conspiracy theory are suspected as being those that are involved in the scams, nepotism and corruption themselves. It never amazes me that with all the wineries and wine events going on in Lodi that none of these weasels never have been cited for driving while under the influence at any of these all day wine "sipping" events? Does Hansen still have the brownnose to have these matters taken care of?

     
  • posted at 11:00 am on Tue, Jun 15, 2010.

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    I've thought of making my own KA 4993 license plate holder, but I'm sure I'd get a Rodney King-esq beat down or at the very least they call in some guy's dog to search for drugs or weapons and tear the upolstery and scratch up the paint ("sorry, you shouldn't have that license plate frame, all drug dealers and weapons runners have them"). Maybe they call in 5 more guys so they can empty their guns at me, but only hitting me once, not because they were kind, just that they can't shoot very well. Of course if it was Lodi, two of the officers would be wounded by friendly fire, most likely caused by checking to see if their guns were empty.

     
  • posted at 4:31 am on Tue, Jun 15, 2010.

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    Sven31- The Ebay bids on those CHP license plate frames is going bonkers. The asking price on one 11-99 frame is now $212.50 with only three bids. Why would anyone pay $212 for a license plate frame costing $5? I think its cheaper than $400 for yapping on a cellphone.

     
  • posted at 3:16 am on Tue, Jun 15, 2010.

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    Sven 31- This article is about what happens AFTER you get a ticket. But Judge McNatt should know how NOT to get a ticket, he is a former police officer so he must have heard all the excuses.There are a few other tricks IF the id tags don't work. Tell the citing officer that you no longer live in the area and you want to appear at the "county seat" of the jurisdiction.The confusing mess at the Stockton courts will assure that you will ha ve at least five more mistakes they will make allowing you more opportunities for dismissal. The worst can happen is the same penalty---why not go for it?Here is a method that ALWAYS works. Most policy for traffic offenses requires that the officer be objective. If you tell the assistant DA, you just served the citing officer with a civil "summons and complaint" or his/her spouse is really your "squeeze" and that he is trying to get back at you with a citation. It happens so frequently that this will earn an immediate dismissal. You need to see the DA first.

     
  • posted at 3:05 am on Tue, Jun 15, 2010.

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    Sven31- They are a dozen ways to let the traffic cop think you "love them". Thats all the really want---no hate just respect and a kiss up. Most state police agencies have their own gimmick. How about an official CHP press pass? Its legal now--only for daily news media---they don't think blogs count. They run a background check on you to verify that you are at least 50% working (I did not say employed) in the media. The DMV even has a "high class" ID called the "GOVERNORS PRESS PASS". See a seargent-at-arms at the capital. They have a special office --- where they will take a photo id. It's nice quality with a red background. There are CAL state Attorney General ID cards for anyone driving an "unmarked car" (no record on the plates---Non-Exempt).In act there are so many people with official excuses to not get cited, drive down to the Broadway DMV in Sacramento. Almost every car in the area has a KA4993 plate holder or a handicapped sticker/plate...those a great for illegal parking.

     
  • posted at 2:53 am on Tue, Jun 15, 2010.

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    Sven31- You need a "KA 4993" CHP license plate frame available ONLY after showing your CHP badge to the official CHP gift shop at the CHP Acadmey in West SacramentoOr You can buy one on Ebay--at the BUY NOW price of $9.95.Or If you prefer there are the "11-99 Foundation" license plate holders which serve a similar purpose.The license plate frames were designed for "family and friends" of "AAA without a badge" CHP officers. I recommed one on every car driven by a new teenaged driver. It will save you thousands in insurance premiums. If you are stopped you might be asked how you are related---tell them its your step father or uncle. It could be their boss!Or---try a "courtesy card". They only work once per stop, but the burger and fries (or donuts) it will cost you to get your card back is cheaper than a $400 citation and higher insurance premiums.Relax---and forget about it. It's THEIR system, not ours. Who invented the license plate frames idea? CHP!

     
  • posted at 1:30 pm on Mon, Jun 14, 2010.

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    Some of the rules that are petty (yes I know they are still the rules and you can be cited for them, blah blah blah): 1.parking more than 18" from the curb; 2. having an obscured license plate (see trailer hitch and bumper design and where they have room for the license plate; 3. crossing over the limit line (cross walk); 4. turning from the opposite side of the street to park against the curb; 5. having an obstructed front windshield (from GPS or note pads), even if the obstruction is below your field of view. These are some ridiculous ticketable offenses.This is where red light cameras have it all over the other "human" mediated citations. You enter an intersection after the light turns red, you get a ticket. Every time. (Assuming the protocol for length of yellow hasn't been changed to increase revenue)When we see cops daily talking on cell phones, extending past the limit lines, not stopping completely and we get ticketed for the same, something's wrong.

     
  • posted at 1:20 pm on Mon, Jun 14, 2010.

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    It may seem we just don't want a traffic citation and should just let people decide what rules of the road they want to follow and screw the rest of 'em.The problem with MV infractions is that the application of the MVC (and citations) are just arbitrary. You can do something 50 or 100 times (even in view of a cop) and not be pulled over and not be given a ticket. On #101 though, you get a ticket. You wait for 5 minutes for a light to turn green at 3 am when there is NOBODY on the road (and you can see in front and behind and both sides of the cross street, so you go through and bam! you get a ticket.The infrequency of enforcement is what people are complaining about. Rules that are infrequently applied are not rules. You learn that in school. There are the "rules" that are applied, and then there are the "rules" that are never applied.

     
  • posted at 1:01 pm on Mon, Jun 14, 2010.

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    oops--- I meant Carlos.

     
  • posted at 1:00 pm on Mon, Jun 14, 2010.

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    american joe- That is a very upsetting fact. At one time, there was pride and a sense of duty in government employment. Today we have gimme gimme and thats not MY job. An army of bureaucrats who has allegiance only to its own pension plans is at war against the taxpayers. If the local cop has any pull, it won't be long before he asks you for favors. Listen to what they have to say...like you care...and tell him that you will do what he wants but first, you need a "courtesy card" like the ones that certain city council members haveLet us know what happens.

     
  • posted at 5:30 am on Mon, Jun 14, 2010.

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    Wow...everyone complaining about speeding tickets,cell phone tickets and other offenses. How about you drive the speed limit, don't talk on your cell phone and obey the laws. Don't make excuses for your driving mistakes and blame police officers or the government. Take responsibility and be an adult, hopefully you don't pass your blame game ethics to your children.

     
  • posted at 2:02 am on Mon, Jun 14, 2010.

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    I live down the street from a Lodi cop. He and his wife always run the stop sign at the corner. They know they won’t get tickets. This points out the hypocrisy of police, they enforce standards on the public that they themselves don’t maintain. The trouble is, even though they are immune from the laws of traffic, they aren’t immune from the laws of physics. A little girl on Wimbledon drive a few years ago was run over and killed by a cop speeding in his own car. He knew he wouldn’t get a ticket.

     
  • posted at 5:28 pm on Sun, Jun 13, 2010.

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    As I said earlier, writing tickets for traffic infractions costs the city far more than they get back in their puny 29.00 fee. Again, the motor guys are the ones who like it, but I can't believe someone downtown hasn't done the math.Public relations-wise it looks real good. You've seen the stories in the paper like "200 tickets issued in 4 hrs.", that kind of crap. So if they get $30 per ticket, that is $6000 in revenue. Less overtime for cops sitting in the courtroom @~ $60, that's ($60 @4 hrs.= $240) X 200 (tickets) = $48,000 in costs to recover $6000. No wonder everyone wants to be a cop!!Now I'm sure a lot of these tickets would be packaged and some will pay the fine and say screw it, but potentially there is a huge deficit generated by this practice. Maybe 200 of us could get together with a couple of cops (wink wink)and we can help each other out with our new boat payments!

     
  • posted at 4:25 pm on Sun, Jun 13, 2010.

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    Add up the $ 150,000 retirement at age 52 for police officers, multiply by another 30 years of survival, [82] and you have $ 4.5 million in retirement for every ticket stamper. Give that some thought. It would be cheaper to assess every driver a $ 100 a Year [i m just guessing.] than to pay for the support of the traffic court and the chicken sheeite tickets written on the street, and tyhe 4n 4.5 million dollar officers. Wake up people.

     
  • posted at 4:17 pm on Sun, Jun 13, 2010.

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    Sven31 and Gray Cloud -- Excellent points. I noticed the same exact phenomenon. Posted speed limit signs were taken down, and a short time later a trailer popped up with a SPEED display. Drivers slammed on their brakes looking for a radar speed trap and cars were driving with their headlights on during the day to warn other drivers. A few week passed, and voila!--a new lower speed limit sign. We are witnessing our sloppy government in action. This begs a question.What would happen, if local teen speeders "worked the radar" with ALL speeds in excess of 65 MPH...all days of the week and days and nights. Getting apparent high speeds is simple. A neighbor was pitching baseballs---and the radar measured the speed---blinking red. He had a few fast balls!Maybe we need some kids out there pitching fast balls? I think they also need to depress the rubber hose to match the fast pitches?I like the "alzheimer" drivers barely tall enough to see over the steering wheel trying to figure out which side of the street they are on. Very scary.

     
  • posted at 3:39 pm on Sun, Jun 13, 2010.

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    Traffic tickets are just a poor and sloppy way of collecting more tax money. "Fines, fees, permits, ordinances", and all the rest of the city's crap are just more ways to collect taxes. If they could, they would tax you when you left the toilet seat in it standard upright position.These people are bloodsuckers.

     
  • posted at 2:38 pm on Sun, Jun 13, 2010.

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    sven, good point concerning those radar trailers, they are a joke. I sent an email to the PD about those trailers, I live on a very busy street and would like to see drivers drive at the posted speed limit. Did I get a responce, Hell NO. Conceal the trailer and then you can get a true picture of the speed traffic is going.

     
  • posted at 1:45 pm on Sun, Jun 13, 2010.

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    From a financial standpoint, writing tickets for moving violations potentially cost local municipalities 1,000 of dollars. More likely 10,000 of dollars. The small amount they are able to get from a speeding ticket is quickly lost if they have to call the citing officer in on overtime, which I assume is 4 hours.If the city gets $29 and they have to pay the policeman $60 X 4 (just guessing on the hourly) so the math is $29 - $240 = ($211) lost on that citation.The only group coming out ok on this is the citing officer.BTW, when you see that little trailer with the posted speed and the radar display of your speed, that is one of the ways they determine the speed limit of that street. People assume they might get a ticket so they slow down. This keeps the average speed down which then prevents a higher speed limit from being posted. Just to let you know.

     
  • posted at 11:57 am on Sun, Jun 13, 2010.

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    Sven31- Good points! But you are making an erroneous assumption about traffic safety. It's all about income, and control, rarely about the pretext they use, the California state vehicle code. It's government at its best. Ask any of them and they will tell you how important they are, and how they are abused employees. ROFL

     
  • posted at 9:51 am on Sun, Jun 13, 2010.

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    One other thing I've noticed is that when you turn on to a street with a speed limit posted, the sign and road are at roughly the location where you are completing your turn and are starting to drive straight. By the time that happens, you've already gone past both notices. I think it's more important to watch out for pedestrians and bicyclists when you get on your new route than to look around for the signs. Move 'em 200 feet down the street so it's safe to look for them.

     
  • posted at 9:46 am on Sun, Jun 13, 2010.

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    The thing with the road from Mills to Target is that it is a school zone (25mph), but once your past that school, it's still 25 mph which I bet gets a lot of people in trouble.I'm very irritated when I see them setting up along Kettleman from Ham to Mills during their "big catch speeders afternoons". Read "OVERTIME". They look like a lot of teenage boys. I've also noted a large increase in the "hiding behind something with the radar gun" incidents. It's just embarrassing for Lodi cops to act like that.I received a speeding ticket some time back on a road that NO ONE DRIVES ON. Of course we hear the "neighborhood complaints", but when you ask, they won't speak of a particular neighbor, just general complaints which means no complaints just want to write tickets.I don't expect someone's name but don't BS me. Just tell me you needed to write some tickets. With 200/month, I hear it's a toaster oven.

     
  • posted at 8:58 am on Sun, Jun 13, 2010.

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    wujek- I saw that last comment! No I am not a speeder, I get offended by the scofflaws who can't get a real job so they work for the government where they usually retire the day they are hired. I also have a driver for most of my trips and that greatly reduces my exposure to badge wearing clowns.

     
  • posted at 8:53 am on Sun, Jun 13, 2010.

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    Wujek- I think you misunderstood my argument? I fully support red light cameras for increasing city revenue.It is much better than being forced into listening to the yammering of our councilmembers threatening us with the RDA for the third time, water meters, infrastructure imrovements etc.I didn't know about the imformation about reducing accidents, or the bit about the reduction in the number of tickets. Like you say, you can avoid these revenue enhancers by driving around them. I have my own routes around town with minimal intrusion of stop lights or bored cops stalking their next victim. I have to admit, Lodi is the only locality that hasen't offered me a courtesy card. I have heard GOB brag about them, but I have none...YET.The courtesy cards are like the keys to the city. No tickets! The "almost" citing officer will take it with them, and give it to the card signer, who will lecture you about the intersection or stop sign that tripped you up, before they return the card.

     
  • posted at 7:39 am on Sun, Jun 13, 2010.

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    I don't know what route you drive through Lodi but it doesn't take me 30 minutes to get through Lodi even on my bicycle. In fact I get from Lower Sac to Cherokee on Kettleman in just under ten minutes.I'm still unclear as to your arguments, you harp on red light cameras, but they save money removing the need of an officer to monitor that intersection. The only people who would object to these are those who like to run red lights. As for them being revenue generating, you should know your facts first http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23710970. As drivers become more aware of the cameras two things happen, accidents go down (for the most part) and red light violations decrease, decreasing revenue and in some cases not even enough to pay for the cameras.Personally, for night time, I like what I see in many towns. Four way flashing red lights, slows traffic down but keeps people moving when there is lower traffic flow. As for speeders, that is their own fault and I think fines should be bumped up to be a real deterrent to the habitual speeders, like I suspect ed. is.

     
  • posted at 6:56 am on Sun, Jun 13, 2010.

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    Wujek- You have a point about the rediculous > 2 minute red lights on every block on Kettleman in the early hours. Just add an additional 30 minutes for the short trip through Lodi. I think what this town needs is LOTS of red light cameras. We can start hiring more city workers and hand out more promotions and pensions to our overworked and underpaid city workers. Soon, we can also hand out million dollar pension bonuses like the school district!Plus the judge looks like he needs a world cruise vacation. Lets all pitch in and help him out. We could use some revenue enhancing red light cameras to balance the costs for redeveloping eastside blight. I say add some near the courthouse to get some jurors running late to court!

     
  • posted at 4:28 am on Sun, Jun 13, 2010.

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    See, edumacation, I don't subsidise them because I obey the traffic laws.As for why red lights even at three in the morning. That's easy, as one who use to drive home at that time I saw a lot of young drivers thinking that they could go as fast as they wanted to. The red lights stopped them every now and then. I'd rather be inconvenienced by red lights than see some poor guy wiped out by some one speeding through no red lights and losing control.But wait, you think red lights are just a trap. But if we took them out and people sped you would call that a trap as well. I know let's just do away with all traffic laws and let the survival of the toughest car take over. As one who has kids in the car with him I appreciate strict traffic laws that keep my family safe.

     
  • posted at 4:19 am on Sun, Jun 13, 2010.

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    Great American Trucker, nope, some of us non-truckers obey the traffic laws as well. Complete stops, yup, see guy behind me flipping out because I obey the law, yup. Personally I'd love to see a few traffic fines go higher (doubled); running a red, speeding through school zone, illegal passing - is that one? (yes, I've been passed in residential zones), and how about the noise ordanance with blaring music? I shouldn't hear your music over mine in my own car.Again I ask since when is it a speed trap to obey the law? As long as the limit is clearly posted then no one has anyone to blame but themselves. Think how much safer 12 would be if people obeyed the law there. What is so important that risking your life and others is justified, another coffee?GAT: I'll go you one better for stop signs. I'm one of those drivers that stop in the turn lane to give the trucker turning right plenty of room coming into my lane. Boy does that flip out these Cal. drivers.

     
  • posted at 4:14 am on Sun, Jun 13, 2010.

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    G.A.T. No whining here...no tickets. I'll let YOU subsidize the police and judge pension funds. With all those huge trucker taxes you have a bullseye on your back. Traffic citations are almost never associated with road safety. Instead, public employees and their pension plans need to be fed. Maybe we should bring in some red light cameras? Good source of income! We need one near the entrance to every store on Kettleman. ooops the state already did that. The long stop lights almost forces people to check out the retail stores on Kettleman. The stop lights keep the lease payments up for the developers. You can't go through that area without stopping every 30 seconds for lights even at 3:00 am with zero traffic. Where is "safety" as the goal? Look at Atwater, If the town had a freeway stoplight, they could actually complete the mall they started three years ago.

     
  • posted at 4:01 am on Sun, Jun 13, 2010.

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    Observer- Atwater? Isn't that one ---two off ramps long?. You can blink and miss the ---is there a sign? I guess with no military base, they need to find a way to puy their employees? This reminds me of "Wackyville" to the West. The police are so lonely looking for easy prey they get up on the freeway to snipe more victims. Usually the city badges lerave the freeways to Sheriff and CHP. Now I think of it, P'ville would go bankrupt without the stop signs on highway 50. That dinky "pretend-a-mall" along the freeway would never exist without red lights on the freeway. There is NO other reason for them. There are ample on and off ramps but the city refuses to reroute downtown streets-----for a huge profit. What would happen of every other dinky town put stop lights back on the freeway? They would no longer be freeways. One reason for I-5 was to help motorists avoid the stupid highway stop lights of Pumpkin Center or B-Town.

     
  • posted at 2:51 am on Sun, Jun 13, 2010.

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    If folks would kindly observe traffic laws, this wouldn't be a concern. Until this happens, I guess you will all just whine like infants. California is such a wonderous and strange place to behold.That goes especially for Leadfoots around town, lane-changing-lunatics and my all-time favorite, California Stops. (You know who you are.)And stop being pissy when someone actually STOPS. They're probably an old trucker who's been hammered bloody by "failure to stop" citations and is tired of handing over hard-earned money to the State.

     
  • posted at 2:06 am on Sun, Jun 13, 2010.

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    I have a great idea....let's establish a list of known speed traps. I'll go first. The City of Atwater on Highway 99. Don't know if it's a bad as it used to be but you couldn't drive through the area without seeing at least two CHP with cars pulled over. And yes, I was a victim.

     
  • posted at 7:01 pm on Sat, Jun 12, 2010.

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    Don't spend money in speed trap towns. I have a long list. The locals depend on citation revenue and the local judges and collection agencies are the enforcers. I predict it will only get worse, as property tax assessments decline with dropping house prices, local government is like a drug addict without drugs. They crave money for their employees, and their employees are going to find that money, whether its speed traps, red light cameras, parking meters or water meters!Read this issue of the LNS where Ex-mayor Bob wants to add a new law with $1,000 penalty for "improperly placed" political campaign signs. We really need a law against stupid talking city council members. LOL Time for another plate of DRY beans?

     
  • posted at 6:53 pm on Sat, Jun 12, 2010.

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    Wujek- The earlier definition was a quasi-legal definition. Governments were embarassed by the extent of the speedtrap problem and enhancing tax revenue and local laws were passed defining the term to exclude various LE attempts to enhance city income using traffic fines.Today, the word "speedtrap" has been redefined so loosely that any traffic enforcement is suspect.I know council members in one city who actively designed a real speed trap scenario in their small town.The state got upset by a news media expose. After a few months the traps were resurrected. These were real speed traps where no violation may have even occurred.I suggest that you either walk or take a cab on some stretches of highway 49, US 50 and US 80.One small city has a major US freeway with three stop lights within one mile? "Hangtown" has been a speed trap since the invention of the automobile. Real speed traps are fundamentally criminal syndicalism and can be a pretext for a "lawful" search for planted (uusally drug) "evidence".

     
  • posted at 6:04 pm on Sat, Jun 12, 2010.

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    edumacation:I looked at the spped trap website and I have an observation to make: Most of the people complaining about the "speed traps" admit to going over the speed limit that is posted. So how it that a speed trap? It's not like going down the Grapevine (I-5) with cops lined up to catch those who just don't want to use thier brakes all the way down. Or hwy 126 where it drops from 65 to 55 (unmarked) for a couple miles then bake up (yes, I got caught at that one). But since when is it a speed trap when the drivers don't CARE what the speed limit is? By that logic all school zones would be speed traps.

     
  • posted at 4:54 pm on Sat, Jun 12, 2010.

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    And here is another Lodi speed trap list.www.copspy.com/CA/23529-lodi.htmland Trapster SMS alert to smartphoneswww.trapster.com/rl/Trapster.phpand the Uniden "Beartracker" police receiver detector.When a CHP portable radio RECEIVER is "on" within 1/4 mile, it alerts giving you its exact GPS mapped location. Where there is a CHP receiver there is a high probability of a CHP or DONUT shop. Better than radar detectors.

     
  • posted at 4:40 pm on Sat, Jun 12, 2010.

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    Sven31- Here is a partial list of Lodi speed traps. There are a few more, but this is a start.http://www.speedtrap.org/city/1027/Lodi

     
  • posted at 4:21 pm on Sat, Jun 12, 2010.

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    Sven31- I havne't had any type of citation for at least 20 years. When travelling out of state you have to be extremely careful of city speed traps where minor traffic violations are the least of your problems. These cities will try to drain your bank account in many ways to extort money.Extortion is illegal for others, but legal for local governments its called "tax revenue". Look at the above table of fees.If Minerva "Lady justice" were blind and didn't have her fingers in the till justice could theoretically occur. But county government depends on the opposite. It needs money by fee, fine or tax. The NUMBER one rule of law as told to me by another local Superior court justice is called the "golden rule" of jurisprudence. "..She who has the gold, makes the rules!..."Good luck fighting local government fraud and criminality.Admitted murderers and rapists spend less time in jail than International law specialist Fine, who remains a political prisoner in an LA county jail.For whistleblowing about ex-post facto laws which are illegal according to the US constitution.

     
  • posted at 3:23 pm on Sat, Jun 12, 2010.

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    Sven31- I agree that most traffic citations are nothing more than a disguised tax. Look at all the fees. Perhaps if enough people say no to the fees and opt for jail, they could not afford to have the fees especially with an unemployment rate above 19%.Your answer is more a defensive strategy. You need some courtesy cards. It might cost you a burger and a beer to get one, but it seems to be a good choice. You never ask for one...that could be a misinterpreted request. If "they" want you to have one...let them do the talking.

     
  • posted at 1:20 pm on Sat, Jun 12, 2010.

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    My way to handle traffic citations in Lodi:1. Ask for a trial with the officer present. There's a chance he won't show up, in which case you win.2. If necessary, change your plea after the proceedings have begun and it seems like you're gonna lose.3. Opt of traffic school.4. Figure the total cost to you for fines and other retribution, X 300%.5. Buy goods and services outside of Lodi so they don't get their portion of the sales tax.In the end, the city will lose far more revenue than they gain for their portion of the citation. It's not pleasant, but what else are you going to do? Hit 'em economically. After a couple of hundred people do this, mayby they'll get the message.A friend suggested this to me several years ago. I've tried it and I kinda feel like I won this one.

     
  • posted at 11:15 am on Sat, Jun 12, 2010.

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    peeking---with both eyes open.

     
  • posted at 11:08 am on Sat, Jun 12, 2010.

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    continued-The judge has a "...personal rule to be compassionate about alleged traffic violations...." Apparently, many peace officers have their own compassion rule by using "courtesy cards".Does the judge offer an opinion about these extra judicial "free passes" from traffic citations?

     
  • posted at 11:07 am on Sat, Jun 12, 2010.

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    continued---" But just last year, a bill was quietly slipped into a budget package retroactively legalizing those kick backs—and any future bonuses.Then, L.A. Superior Court Judge David Yaffe sentenced Fine to jail indefinitely for contempt of court...."So in Los Angeles, county judges indirectly receive money for convictions in their courts.What happens in this county?An L.A. attorney has now been imprisoned in solitary confinement by one judge, for over one year without any charges because of the county kickback scheme.Can the same thing happen here?How can we have build a judicial system that discourages kick backs to judges>?Is our judicial system Lady Justice is peaking through her blindfold and crossing her fingers behind her back.Is this justice "for all" ?Most of us know that many police agencies have formal or informal citation quota systems for its peace officers. Accordingly, the system is really about the income from judicial fines.What does the judge say about these facts?

     
  • posted at 10:46 am on Sat, Jun 12, 2010.

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    Layla - This is an informative article, but a few implied questions are missing:"That's an additional $51 fee to the court for processing...."According to Salon---When it comes to seeking legal justice in the U.S., the buck stops with our judges. So, what happens when the judges are corrupt? 70-year old antitrust attorney Richard I. Fine found out. He’s been in solitary confinement in the L.A. Men’s Jail for over a year, put there for being in contempt of court, but with no formal charge levied against him.Richard Fine blew the whistle on the illegal practice of Los Angeles judges being paid up to $57,000 a year by L.A. County in exchange for deciding cases in the county’s favor. This wheel greasing and kick backing had been going on for at least two decades. But the corruption only went public when Fine unearthed the scandal, after noticing that several cases he filed against L.A. County “were mysteriously being dismissed for nonsensical and bogus reasons,” (according to the Free Richard Fine website wet up in support of the jailed attorney). In 2008, the State appeals court deemed these bonuses illegal...."

     
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