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Lodi Unified School District trustees finish closed-door interviews for board

Two finalists named: Jack Bray and John Carvana

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Posted: Friday, June 11, 2010 12:00 am

Three Lodi Unified School District trustees finished closed-door interviews of applicants for the board Thursday and named two finalists, Jack Bray and John Carvana.

The two finalists will now be interviewed by the full board of trustees Tuesday night. Other applicants are welcome to participate in that meeting as well, said board president Richard Jones.

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30 comments:

  • posted at 6:37 am on Wed, Jun 16, 2010.

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    Yes the Brown Act was violated when three members out of the six members of the LUSD met in closed session. The Brown Act was adopted to prevent a majority of board members from meeting in private and adopting a position on a subject. In fact the intent of the Brown Act is that all issues be discussed in public sessions. The intent of the Act was not to restrict members from informally exchanging information between each other. The Act does enumerate specific subjects that may be closed to the public. Legal counsels familiar with the Act suggest that no more than two members meet to avoid legal problems. Boards with an even number of members present a special problem. If half of the member meet and formulate a position, they can ‘rule’ the rest of the board by either stopping business with a tie vote or wearing the other members down. Legal counsel should be aware of this or replaced.

     
  • posted at 5:23 pm on Mon, Jun 14, 2010.

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    Lodian wrote on Jun 13, 2010 11:29 PM:" Somethin' smells fishy. "or Something Wicked This Way Comes!I like that one

     
  • posted at 6:29 pm on Sun, Jun 13, 2010.

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    Somethin' smells fishy.

     
  • posted at 6:29 pm on Sun, Jun 13, 2010.

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    The committee chair wanted to keep the integrity of the process and keep it closed?Wow!

     
  • posted at 9:06 am on Sun, Jun 13, 2010.

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    Hey Giovanina,Bray doesn't have a "tan" either ... wink, wink.

     
  • posted at 7:11 pm on Sat, Jun 12, 2010.

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    Well I checked Bray's past and I don't see him as having a philosophy that mirrors Odie Douglas.....And YES I am still alive, Leonard clone LOL

     
  • posted at 7:00 pm on Sat, Jun 12, 2010.

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    And the candidate with a philosophy that mostly mirrors the philosophy of Odie Douglas is???? The winner!!!!!!Maybe we should start calling them all Odie-Clones.....has a good ring to it.

     
  • posted at 4:44 am on Sat, Jun 12, 2010.

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    commonsense wrote on Jun 12, 2010 8:30 AM:" Surf!! The union is the teachers, so that blanket statement you put all teachers in the same categorySorry if I was not clear... I was trying to say that many teachers do care about the students... but... when the teacher is directly involved with their union and negotiate with the school board, they use that tired line during that process, which is what I object to... because in that capacity and situation... the children are not considered.

     
  • posted at 3:30 am on Sat, Jun 12, 2010.

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    Surf!! The union is the teachers, so that blanket statement you put all teachers in the same category.

     
  • posted at 4:51 pm on Fri, Jun 11, 2010.

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    commonsense.... re; best interest of the children... is an old tired line the union spouts that from my perspective is a blatant lie. The union represents the best interest of the teachers. The children have absolutely nothing to do with what they do. The union uses the children for selfish reasons. It is the teachers themselves that care for the children. It’s a shame they do not have the good sense in decertifying the union.

     
  • posted at 4:42 pm on Fri, Jun 11, 2010.

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    Lodian... How do I know... the sun may or may not rise in the east tomorrow... I bet it will just like it always does... there is no guarantee... but chances are... it will... and just like the sun most likely will rise... George will represent teacher’s interest or be attacked by the union just like any board member is. I hope I am mistaken... we will see. Ive heard George speak several times, and read things he has said… he seems so one sided…. That side being the union side.

     
  • posted at 2:07 pm on Fri, Jun 11, 2010.

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    surfgliderdb wrote "You know if elected, George will be so biased towards his union buddies that he will not effectively serve all interested partied."surfgliderdb: How do you figure?

     
  • posted at 1:19 pm on Fri, Jun 11, 2010.

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    Some of you do not seem concerned on the process that leads to the end result, if the board has followed their own bylaws. That is concerning to me as a taxpayer, and someone that want to see the best candidate for the job, and not an inside decision.I don't believe what is best for children is a old dead line or just the concern of the "Union"If the "Union" was so concerned why would they stand nuetral on the waiver to the State regarding increasing class sizes above the required limit by the State? The waiver is on the agenda to be viewed by all!

     
  • posted at 1:05 pm on Fri, Jun 11, 2010.

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    Lets Be Real ... of course "ATEACHER" is George... you would think that since he thinks he is qualified to serve on the school board that he would change his handle and indicate who he really is... but you know how dishonest union people are... you cannot expect much from them. You know if elected, George will be so biased towards his union buddies that he will not effectively serve all interested partied. Of course he will say he has the best interest of the children at heart... but that is a tired old line that the union has utilized for years.

     
  • posted at 11:49 am on Fri, Jun 11, 2010.

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    pre$$ure$on... you never disappoint... you are one observant blogger. You and everyone else making passionate observations about a closed door meeting an obscure school board participated in... I was trying to be as absurd as you... but obviously, I could never hope to accomplish that one.You are just too bright and clever for me. The wisdom you display is awe-inspiring. Fortunately, you do keep making comments that result in many people chuckling and feeling better about themselves. When they compare their wit with yours, how can they not feel better.

     
  • posted at 11:18 am on Fri, Jun 11, 2010.

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    News Alert: PLEASE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT "ATEACHER" IS AN UNBIASED AND CONCERNED CITIZEN. HE IS GEORGE NEELY, THE SAME ONE WHO IS RUNNING FOR OFFICE!

     
  • posted at 10:10 am on Fri, Jun 11, 2010.

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    Surfglide, your hallucinogenic comments don't seem to have anything to do with this blog. Please add somrething of value or sleep it off.

     
  • posted at 9:28 am on Fri, Jun 11, 2010.

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    We need you, George Neely! Keep up the great work!

     
  • posted at 8:34 am on Fri, Jun 11, 2010.

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    Maybe the CIA, United Nations, FBI, and maybe even the KGB should investigate. This school board is obviously hiding something so important that no expense should be denied in order to uncover the truth. Maybe this information will result in answers so long hidden in “AREA 51". I’m so thankful for all these diligent detectives and will help make the earth a better and more fair place to live.

     
  • posted at 6:25 am on Fri, Jun 11, 2010.

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    Carvana mentioned that he will read the budget proposal over the weekend IF he is given a copy. The budget proposal from the June 1 board meeting is on the district's webite. LUSD's website menu lists "Electronic School Board." Agendas for each meeting are posted by 5:00 p.m. the Friday before any school board meeting. By holding your cursor over the list of agenda items and clicking, you can access each document that is part of the meeting. Any document relating to any agenda item is there for you to read with just a click of the mouse.

     
  • posted at 4:02 am on Fri, Jun 11, 2010.

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    I am wondering whether a Brown Act violation will occur if the Board goes ahead on Tuesday and votes on a provisional appointee. The boards' actions are subject to the Brown Act even if these committees are not. Since the Bylaws that were adopted by the district require that the process be open, and it was not, if the board follows through, have they not in effect ratified the violation? Once the board has adopted a procedure for filing vacancies in its bylaws that mandates a public process, isn’t the Boards’ failure to follow the rule a Brown Act violation? Isn’t the attempt to do a quick fix by inviting all the candidates to be interviewed too little, too late, since the committee knows things that the public does not (the questions, the answers) and because everyone already knows the committee’s choices?I don’t know the answer to these questions, but I have to say that this situation does smell right, and it never will.

     
  • posted at 3:47 am on Fri, Jun 11, 2010.

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    There is a hidden agenda on the candidates. A complete resume of the candidates should be known for all to look at, and them make a decision. Every citizen in LUSD should be looking between the lines. That is transparent. The board needs to be held accountable for this fiasco.

     
  • posted at 3:44 am on Fri, Jun 11, 2010.

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    "He chalked up the distrust to an inherent skepticism of politicians, especially those in contract negotiations."It's something I wish we could change," he (Jones) said.Are you kidding me? Who do they think they are talking to? They are the only ones who CAN CHANGE IT because THEY are the ones RESPONSIBLE for our MISTRUST of LUSD! Another typical politician blaming EVERYONE else for their bad behavior! I'll take bets on their choice of the former school administrator - just another "yes-man" for their old-boys standard opperating proceedure. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! Their blatent avoidance of the issues and continuation to do whatever the hell they want despite what is best for the district at large is incorrigable. This is no longer an issue of money - and hasn't been for a long, long time.

     
  • posted at 3:44 am on Fri, Jun 11, 2010.

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    Apparently the "Board" has learned their "transparency" procedures from Obama. So transparent nobody can see it. Public entities should be just that. OPEN to the public. Just what are they hiding?

     
  • posted at 3:14 am on Fri, Jun 11, 2010.

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    LNS-An invaluable public service was served by this article! The significance of the appointment of someone to public office, should not be minimized Mr. Jones. It is not about a current negotiations. If it is, did you set up this process in violation of the Bylaws so that you could try and fill the position with someone who will vote with you? Is “distrust of politicians” a defense to this board’s actions? Therein lies the problem. It will not matter which side gets the one or two crucial pending votes, many will be unhappy, and everyone will wonder what information about the candidates that was obtained in secret was disseminated by the committee members to others on the board, why they got chosen, or left out. The damage to the community is already significant. The process is tainted, and should be abandoned. The other members of the Board should take note. On Tuesday, they will have to make the decision as to whether they are willing participants in these shenanigans, and whether they take public appointments and Bylaws lightly. We will all be watching.

     
  • posted at 3:08 am on Fri, Jun 11, 2010.

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    Two members of this committee, Nava and Davis, side with Jones on everything. So will it be any surprise that the person they select will also fall into the same category. This is outrageous! The LUSD Board has no right to exclude the public from this process. The public has an absolute RIGHT to be involved in the selection of the school board. This whole thing needs to be stopped immediately, and then started over and done the right way. The two candidates that were selected by Jones’s committee need to be removed from consideration. And finally, this board needs to get with the program. We are tired of the way you conduct the business of this school district. First you wasted all the federal money we received, then you gave us the massive layoffs of teachers, and now you try to push through a replacement board member without allowing the public proper input. We deserve better!

     
  • posted at 2:10 am on Fri, Jun 11, 2010.

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    There is nothing ambiguous regarding the BYLAWS. Read it. It is pretty forthright!

     
  • posted at 2:06 am on Fri, Jun 11, 2010.

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    I believe a recall of the board should happen. If they cannot appoint a candidate within there OLD bylaws this is not being open for the public. I would rather be reading why these two candidates were choosen! What made their qualifications better than others!The candidates knew they were going to be under scruntiny by the public. Nava did not mind, but now does mind that if interviews were open to the public. This is corruption at the local level. This is a seat that is voted by the public! Jones was appointed in the same manner in 2004. So what, that was wrong then, and should have been corrected this time. This is OUTRAGEOUS!!! RECALL! RECALL!!

     
  • posted at 1:24 am on Fri, Jun 11, 2010.

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    I am very disappointed in LUSD Board! When you close the door it is because you don't want the public to know what is happening. We will SAVE LODI SCHOOLS!Can't wait until November!

     
  • posted at 1:02 am on Fri, Jun 11, 2010.

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    Mr. Jones said, "But the committee chair wanted to keep the integrity of the process and keep it closed. We're not trying to be anything but transparent."Please! Mr. Jones, I am ashamed that I once thought you were on my side, looking out for the children of Lodi. Being a politician has changed you. Your closed-door politics are the exact opposite of transparent, so please do not insult our collective intelligence by telling us otherwise and expecting us to believe it. Furthermore, your stubborn defense of failed and dangerous ideas is the opposite of leadership. A leader finds new courses of action to lead his people to a better future. Either (a) you aren't a leader because you just follow what has always been done, or (b) we aren't your people, because you are not leading us to a better future. You will be replaced... with our votes... and we will SAVE LODI SCHOOLS!

     
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