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Father Michael Kelly held liable on all charges in civil trial

Diocese removes Lockeford priest from the clergy after jurors find for plaintiff in assault civil trial

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Posted: Friday, April 6, 2012 5:07 pm | Updated: 5:58 am, Thu May 31, 2012.

Father Michael Kelly has been removed from the clergy after he was held liable on three counts of assault, sexual assault and abuse late Friday afternoon.

The 10-woman, two-man jury took just a matter of hours to determine whether Kelly should be held liable for the charges brought against him. A 37-year-old former altar boy accused the Lockeford priest of sexually assaulting him.

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  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 10:49 pm on Sun, Apr 15, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403

    Mr Piscitelli stated...while their ( referring to Ben and Darrell)idol Fr. kelly continues to decompose as a clergyman, and his Bishop swims in a cesspool of disgust.

    Please please stop characterizing my posts falsely.

    Father Kelly is not my idol. JUSTICE is my idol as well as fairness in a system of law, Neither of which you appear to embrace. You sound more interested in venting anger with personal attacks. I have repeatedly posted that I have never seen or talked to father Kelly. Until this case came up, I was not aware that he even existed. You keep misstating what I type. Are you doing it intentionally or are you incapable of comprehending English?

    Again, father Kelly is not my idol. However, I do respect the people who know him well and have spoken highly of him.

    As to the bishop, you sound like again you have inside information the FBI would be interested in. I suggest you call them.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 4:11 pm on Sun, Apr 15, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403

    Joey...please let me interject some reality into what I perceive are your incorrect conclusions.

    I am not making any comments here onlne thinking it may have an effect on the results of the trail. Father Kelly has been fouund liable .I do not think in any way the courts will somehow drop the charges because anyone, including me or Ben, expresses their opinion on a forum meant to express opinion. The conclusions you draw to me are from a man whose character is dripping with animosity and anger. As a result, I think you are not thinking clearly. I sincerely feel sorry for you or anyone driven by hate.

    In addition, in my view the only way that it could possibly be reversed is if the case is appealed in a court of law by father Kelly himself . If he does not appeal, case will stand.

    Lastly, No one is high fiving anyone. This case brings nothing but misery and animosity. There are no winners except for the people who are in it for the money as they are unethical in my view. I believe an injustice has been done. I think many in the area feel the same based on the poll taken by the Lodi News Sentinel.

    So here is "what I expect to happen...

    People who think father Kelly was treated unfairly and did not get justice, will continue to support him. Hopfully, the case will be appealed and truth with come to light.


     
  • Arabella Clark posted at 2:25 pm on Sun, Apr 15, 2012.

    Arabella Posts: 129

    Ben: Are you just cutting and pasting? This is the very same post you wrote to me, which was removed.

    Does your employer know that you are writing inflammatory things here?

     
  • Arabella Clark posted at 2:23 pm on Sun, Apr 15, 2012.

    Arabella Posts: 129

    PS: Another very recent victim has come forward. The Sheriff's office continues to investigate. Drip. Drip. Drip.

     
  • Arabella Clark posted at 2:22 pm on Sun, Apr 15, 2012.

    Arabella Posts: 129

    He was found liable for child molestation, unanimously.

     
  • Arabella Clark posted at 2:21 pm on Sun, Apr 15, 2012.

    Arabella Posts: 129

    Mr. Sadek: As you may know, predators choose their victims very carefully. They choose victims not from fully functional families but ones where there is either an absentee or distant father, or where there is alcoholism or divorce. Perhaps you weren't molested, but others you know may have been.

    Have you asked your male siblings whether anything happened to them? Have they ever exhibited any kind of emotional turbulence in their lives?

    Are you sure you're not in some sort of frantic denial?

     
  • Arabella Clark posted at 2:13 pm on Sun, Apr 15, 2012.

    Arabella Posts: 129

    Why do people here keep accusing anyone who agrees with the jury verdict was "Being with SNAP?" Did it ever occur to you that there are millions of Americans out there who believe that priests like Kelly have committed a crime, but aren't members of SNA?" I am not and never have been a member of SNAP, but I applaud the work they have done.

     
  • Arabella Clark posted at 2:11 pm on Sun, Apr 15, 2012.

    Arabella Posts: 129

    Hear, hear, Mr. Piscitelli.

    I would like to add one other thing that some believe will happen:

    The Calaveras county Sheriff's office will arrest Kelly on charges that he raped a 10 year old boy in 2000 at St. Andrew's in San Andreas. They ARE currently investigating. And it's not a case of repressed memory...

     
  • Joey Piscitelli posted at 4:39 pm on Sat, Apr 14, 2012.

    Joey piscitelli Posts: 23

    Here's what is NOT going to happen:

    The judge and the Superior Court are going to drop the verdict of being guilty of multiple counts of sexual abuse charges against Fr. Kelly, because Ben and Darrell
    keep complaining that it wasn't a fair trial.

    Here's what IS going to happen:
    Ben and Darrell are going to continue to post useless rants, bigotry, insults, and nonsense about false allegations that benefit absolutely nobody at all. And Fr. Kelly is removed from ministry, is disgraced for life, and Ben and Darrell will keep high fiving each other, and bask in self indulgent pride for their totally useless comments, while their idol Fr. kelly continues to decompose as a clergyman, and his Bishop swims in a cesspool of disgust.
    Keep writing fellas. You're accomplishing a lot.

     
  • Ben Sanacore posted at 8:39 pm on Fri, Apr 13, 2012.

    Ben Sanacore Posts: 104

    SNAP and others who claim to be advocates of victims of pedophiles are asking alleged "victims" of Fr. Michael Kelly to come forward to accuse him of being a pedophile. Please understand that this organization and others are eager to believe anyone who accuses a Catholic priest of being a pedophile. Please understand that there are people who are looking to profit from such allegations. If you've had a bad experience with the Catholic Church that doesn't involve sexual abuse, please don't be encourgaged to falsely accuse Fr. Kelly to get even. If you have problems with the Catholic Church because of its philosophy or it doesn't aree with your lifestyle, please don't take the opportunity to falsely accuse Fr. Kelly as a result. This is an unacceptable way to resolve philosophical differences. Vengeance and spite never result in satisfaction, and they will destroy you on a personal level. If you are a person who would falsely accuse Fr. Kelly for profit, understand that in the end you will only hurt yourself. Put yourself in Fr. Kelly's shoes. Would you want someone to falsely accuse you of such a terrible crime of being a pedophile? What would it do to your life? The Sherriff's Office and District Attorney's office have both stated that anyone who falsely reports a crime, and it is later determined that they lied could be prosecuted and held criminally accountable for filing a false police report. Don't make the mistake of lying to law enforcemnt officials about being sexually abused by Fr. Kelly.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:17 pm on Fri, Apr 13, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403

    Mr Piscitelli stated...Your statement that I have mental problems because I am a Pagan Witch is not only bigoted...

    I also do not believe in the Easter Bunny. Does that make me a bigot against rabbits?

    I do not believe there are witches in existance. I believe anyone who thinks they are a witch has mental problems... just as a person who sees pink bunny rabbits and talks to them.

     
  • Ben Sanacore posted at 5:32 pm on Fri, Apr 13, 2012.

    Ben Sanacore Posts: 104

    Mr. Piscitelli, the evidence presented against Fr. Kelly completely lacks credibility and you know it. To you accusations against Catholic Priests blur together in your mind until they're one in the same. Your granization tried to desecrate the memory of Fr. Murty Fahy. I remember reading in the LNS a quote from a SNAP representative who said he was guilty. A police investigation cleared Fr. Fahy. I didn't hear any apology from your organizatin for the unfounded allegations it levied. You don't make any headway with your posts. An overwhelming number of people reject your accusations toward Fr. Kelly. Now you try to paint Mr. Baumbach as a witch hunter? You call him Father. Are you hallucinating and seeing Mr. Baumbach as a Catholic priest, an apparant vocation worthy of rage for you? Mr. Baumbach has not levied unfounded accusations toward you as being a pedophile. There's no logic and reason in your statements. You still haven't answered my questions I posed to you several posts ago. Do you hate Catholics? Do you hate Christians? Do you hate Jesus Christ? Do you accuse Fr. Kelly because the Catholic Church doesn't agree with your lifestyle and social views? Isn't this all really about vengeance with the Catholic Church for you? Do you take pleasure in seeing an innocent Catholic Priest be crucified? Your silence suggests that your answer is yes to all of these questions. Your comments continue to spew hatred and venom in Salem Witch Trial fashion. You really need to find a way to deal with your hatred and unresolved anger before you self-destruct.

     
  • Joey Piscitelli posted at 7:44 am on Fri, Apr 13, 2012.

    Joey piscitelli Posts: 23

    Fr. Darrell Baumbach,
    You incorrectly stated in print that my case was a "repressed memory" case. It was not. It was a continous memory case that was first reported in school at the time of the abuse. You are as un-credible as Fr. kelly. The reason priests have lost all the cases in California is their credibility in front of a jury. Proof of that is the verdicts.
    And I am proud to be Pagan,(which is a recognized in the USA as a freedom of religion and choice). Your statement that I have mental problems because I am a Pagan Witch is not only bigoted; but a written tangible testament to your blatant prejudice. And it has nothing to do with this case.
    Thank you for stepping on your own tongue. You are the best proof of your poisonous thinking process, which dissintegrates every time you write incorrect statements, prejudicial remarks, and continue to scar your credibilty, along with that of your professed belief in the loser of this case, and your inability to accept the decision of the justice system.
    You are literally a witch-hunter; and that can be seen in your last post. My invitation to you to take an IQ test still stands. And if you are capable of it, read the 1st ammendmant of the constitution. It does not support your statement that people who are not Christian have "mental problems".

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:19 pm on Thu, Apr 12, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403

    Mr Piscitelli stated...This is typical in a priest trial; and typically in California, priests lose all the trials for child molestation cases

    Thank you for substantiating my claim of the hysteria about priests. Represses memory cases are extremely difficult to defend. How else could someone be found guilty with “ZERO” physical evidence. The plaintiff has all the advantages because they ca remain anonymous ( which prevents the public from contributing to the defense like in father Kelly's case and eliminates any possibility that the defendant can produce physical evidence that might clear him. The public has been conditioned to perceive there is an epidemic and if a priest is accused, he is guilty.

    And Ben, this man is the northern California representative of SNAP who has won
    $ 600,000 in the repressed memory slot machine that pays off almost every time. He also has publicly stated he is a “real witch”... which means to me has has mental problems.

     
  • Ben Sanacore posted at 7:09 pm on Thu, Apr 12, 2012.

    Ben Sanacore Posts: 104

    K Lee, one cannot help losing his or her patience with the hollow reasoning of your last post. It's clear that you believe the jury did their job because we have a system designed for jurors to render correct verdicts. In a perfect world, you would be right. Let me ask you this question: if the jury's verdict is so honest and so pure, why did the people who created our judicial system create the motion of an appeal. They believed that justice wasn't always served during a first jury trial. An overwelming number of people believe the same thing in Fr. Kelly's case. Do you understand the gravity of these vicious allegations against Fr. Kelly and the consequences of this verdict? This is very serious business; a man's life hangs in the balance. The jury didn't do the best they could in this case; they failed Lady Justice terribly, and she's still struggling to pick herself up off the floor after this gross injustice toward Fr. Kelly.

     
  • Ben Sanacore posted at 6:50 pm on Thu, Apr 12, 2012.

    Ben Sanacore Posts: 104

    Mr. Piscitelli, we know who you are. You're probably with SNAP or are one of their operatives. You still haven't answered my questions I posed to you several posts ago. Do you hate Catholics? Do you hate Christians? Do you hate Jesus Christ? Do you accuse Fr. Kelly because the Catholic Church doesn't agree with your lifestyle and social views? Isn't this all really about vengeance with the Catholic Church for you? Do you take pleasure in seeing an innocent Catholic Priest be crucified? You can gloat all you want, but Fr. Kelly would very likely win an appeal to this unjust jury verdict. Again, you need to fnd a way to deal with your hate and unresolved anger, Mr. Piscitelli before it eats you up.

     
  • Ben Sanacore posted at 6:34 pm on Thu, Apr 12, 2012.

    Ben Sanacore Posts: 104

    Ms. Sloan, your last post speaks for itself. First you attack Ms. Elliott for expressing her opinion and then you continue to denegrate Fr. Kelly with your alleged personal experiences of "rude and insensitive" behavior. You think the comparison of Fr. Kelly's situation with the persecutions during the Salem Witch Trials to be "over dramatic". Anyone who fails to see the chilling similarities between the Salem Witch Trials and this case is denying history and reality. Do you think what has happened to Fr. Kelly is a joke? Do you know what this will do to him professionally and personally to be labelled a pedophile? Do you understand the seriousness of these allegations? This isn't like getting a traffic ticket; paying the fine; and then you move on with your life. This is devastating, and it is outrageous given the total lack of real and credible evidence in this case! It's this kind of lack of logic and absence of reason that put the ropes around the necks of the accused during the Salem Witch Trials and it ultimately destroyed their reputations and lives. You obviously have an ax to grind against Fr. Kelly. After all, isn't he "rude and insensitive" in you mind?

     
  • Kim Lee posted at 11:36 am on Thu, Apr 12, 2012.

    Kim Lee Posts: 1798

    Ben Sanacore: I only asked a simple question, wondering if you were at the Michael Kelly trial. You've made it sound like you were attending the trial and heard all that was presented at the trial (in person) and seem very sure that Michael Kelly is not guilty of sexual assault and abuse of a child. None of us know for sure that Michael Kelly is innocent as only Michael Kelly, and our Father, knows for sure. This is why we have a justice system with a jury of peers to listen, contemplate, evaluate, discuss and then render a verdict. I hear that you think Michael Kelly is innocent, but a jury of his peers has found him guilty of what he was accused. I expect that the jury did their best with all that was presented to them. I am sure it was not easy. I assume that it is never easy for a jury to find a person guilty of such a heinous crime against a child.

     
  • Joey Piscitelli posted at 10:01 am on Thu, Apr 12, 2012.

    Joey piscitelli Posts: 23

    I have heard many catholic priests and their lawyers, and their supporters say "A priest can not get a fair trial". There are a few very hard core Catholic supporters on this forum refusing to accept that Fr. kelly lost the trial, and are very vocal, and attack victims, SNAP, the jury, the court, and anyone who does not take Fr. kellys side, or anyone who thinks that justice has been served.
    This is typical in a priest trial; and typically in California, priests lose all the trials for child molestion cases. It's no wonder.
    It's ironic, and I would think that most people who read the biased hateful remarks of the very vocal supporters of Fr. kelly on this forum who lash out at victms, etc, will realize that this kind of behavior is a testament to why jury selection is so complicated in these cases. There are people out there, as in this forum, who refuse to accept justice by a court jury, and are a detrement to both their own cause of defending priests, and are a reminder to the courts and citizens that religious bias is the most brazen cause on earth, with devastating effects to the world not only in local legal arenas, but they have been historically the cause of death and wars for thousands of years all over this planet.
    The remarks on this forum clearly show that religious bias goes well beyond the acceptance of the court justice system, and it demonstrates that there is a reason why most stubborn hard core religious people can not be trusted on a jury.
    These arrogant "supporters" do no good for the priests they claim to defend, as a matter of fact- they harm them, and show the readers who are trying to be objective that these defenders of the clergy are a danger to the intended rules of adjudicated law, and the court system itself.
    The second irony is that none of the caustic remarks, and arrogant hatred and bias will change the verdict, and the repetitious lashing out at all who accept the verdict, will do nothing at all to cahneg the court decision; but will continue to discredit their cause. Shameful.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 1:33 am on Thu, Apr 12, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403

    K Lee, I think Ben asked a very good question. Did you go to the trial?

    Since you think he ( Kelly) shouldn't be around children but many parents who know him would still gladly invite him to their home with children present, you should explain yourself.

    So help us all out. What physical evidence was there? The paper printed the details of each witness who testified for the plaintiff... no evidence. Tim Lennon of SNAP went to each day of trial and reported each item in court that was not in father Kelly's favor... he did not report any physical evidence... the only evidence was the word of the plaintiff where a 25 year old memory was the entire case... one that he ( the plaintiff) did not know until recently...

    Do you know something or are you depending on a jury that only took two hours to deliberate a complex case... and if so, why do you believe the jury?

     
  • Nancy Sloan posted at 1:17 am on Thu, Apr 12, 2012.

    N SLOAN Posts: 24

    TREACY ELLIOTT I didnt ask your opinion...Dont read it is like saying dont go to court if you dont like the verdict.

    All this witch hunt comparison very interesting. I have never thought of Priest as witches or warlocks so why that comparision? Seems anti catholic... And a bit over dramatic. NONE of you know that Michael Kelly is innocent. MAKE all the claims you want. I met the man several years ago. He was not at all the person his friends and fan club describe. He was rude and insensitive. People asking for physical evidence for a decade old crimes...wow that is funny to me. I just keep thinking of how any of you would feel if there was no "physical Proof" do crime to you or your loved ones... How I hope you dont have to eat your words.

    And re: SNAP "SNAP" cant really make a statement right? as SNAP is Survivors Network of those Abused by Priest (etc) an individual volunteer can but a people are making bizarre false statements while complaining of false statements. And people who said lets wait and see what the jury said...or I am not for or against MK now seem to certainly be against the victim.

    Blocking a painful memory is a known way the body/mind can get through a tragic event. How sad I am for the lack of compassion from so called followers of Chris the sex abuse victims of this diocese have recieved

     
  • Ben Sanacore posted at 8:57 pm on Wed, Apr 11, 2012.

    Ben Sanacore Posts: 104

    K Lee, whether or not I attended the trial will remain a mystery. I ask you the same question: did you attend the trial? Lay it out for us. Tell us what the credible evidence is beyond what I've said. We're all eager to hear. What evidence is there that convinces you Fr. Kelly is liable? Have you ever heard of a jury getting it wrong, K Lee? Have you ever heard of people who were wrongfully convicted and spent decades in prison later to be cleared? Have you ever heard of anyone being convicted of first degree murder, and then they were cleared after they were executed? Juries have spoken in the past and have gotten it terribly wrong. What do you think makes this jury better?

     
  • Kim Lee posted at 7:15 pm on Wed, Apr 11, 2012.

    Kim Lee Posts: 1798

    Ben Sanacore: Did you attend the trial of Michael Kelly?

     
  • Ben Sanacore posted at 7:09 pm on Wed, Apr 11, 2012.

    Ben Sanacore Posts: 104

    K Lee, Fr. Kelly was not "found guilty of child molestaton". This was a civil matter, not a criminal one. He was found liable monetarily. This case wouldn't have made it to first base in a criminal court where "beyond a reasonable doubt" is the standard. The evidence is so flimsy, that nobody except a person who has been brainwashed by the media to despise Catholic priests would render a liable verdict. I even doubt Fr. Kelly will have to register as a sex offender. K Lee, no credible evidence was presented, such as physical evidence. Mr. Manly is a very sharp attorney; his investigators didn't produce anything credible. The evidence used in this trial is similar to the kind used in the Salem Witch Trials (allegations, malice, and a completely unproven theory of repressed memory). No other witnesses corroborated the plaintiff's allegations. Fr. Kelly passed two lie detector tests and steadfastly denied the allegations. The plaintiff didn't take a lie detector test. No, K Lee, justice was not done in this case. Fr. Kelly should appeal.

     
  • Ben Sanacore posted at 6:52 pm on Wed, Apr 11, 2012.

    Ben Sanacore Posts: 104

    Ms. Sloan, the persecution of Fr. Kelly continues. You cite unsubstantiated allegations as was done in the Salem Witch Trials. We've learned from history that this form of injustice is designed to railroad and falsely convict someone like Fr. Kelly. I'll ask you and everyone who believes Fr. Kelly is guilty: where's the credible evidence? Accusations and allegations don't make credible evidence as they did in the Salem Witch Trials. We don't want to see allegations, Ms. Sloan. We want to see credible evidence. Now the witch trial continues. Now the persecution continues. Now the Plantiff's attorney will see how much money he can extract unjustly from the accused. Does it give you pleasure to see an innocent man's life destroyed, Ms. Sloan? Don't all Catholic priests deserve it in your in your mind Ms. Sloan? If you don't know Ms. Sloan, all the people who were tried and convicted in the Salem Witch Trials were posthumously exonerated. There are memorials dedicated to these people who were destroyed by vicious false accusers during the Salem Witch Trials. They stand as memorials to a time when people threw away logic and reason to horribly destroy people. Now we see history repeating itself by efforts to destroy Fr. Kelly and the Catholic Church. Nobody stood up for the falsely accused in the Salem Witch Trials, but those of us that know of that cruel time in history will stand up for those who are unjustly accused who ever they may be and where ever they may be.

     
  • Kim Lee posted at 5:21 pm on Wed, Apr 11, 2012.

    Kim Lee Posts: 1798

    The jury has spoken. I'm surprised that Michael Kelly was allowed to speak at the church and be amongst the children after being found guilty of child molestation.

     
  • Treacy Elliott posted at 12:42 pm on Wed, Apr 11, 2012.

    Treacy Elliott Posts: 62

    Ms Sloan stated...And I am FRUSTRATED with this newspaper As I watched the blatant display of sides the reporter on this case seemed to take. I was horrified at the editors comments re: Possibly ousting a victim..making me feel like I was following a tabloid. And these lil polls....WHO owns this paper?

    If you are frustrated don't read it. As intelligent of a person as you claim to be, it is very simple to find out who owns this paper. As an outsider, and one who looks only through the blinders of injustice, we have little need for your comments or care how you feel about Lodians.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 1:06 am on Wed, Apr 11, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403

    Ms Sloan stated...I shake my head when I see people act like they are defending Christ, standing in place of Peter, not denying. AUGH

    Ms Sloan... your sense of reality is distorted here. I and others here are defending the system of justice. I personally get sick to my stomach when I think of anyone abusing a child. No one here wants an abuser to get away with anything. No one thinks father Kelly is Christ or above the law.

    SNAP believes all priests are guilty who are accused. They state that they have never met a false accuser...ever... which is obviously bias. All people want is justice. Repressed memory cases exclude physical evidence as there is none... except the lie detector test that father Kelly passed that was not admitted into evidence. You must then rely on other criteria. One of the criteria is father Kelly's history and actions. The only testimony was about his tickling and roughhousing... that's it.

    So of course people who experienced father Kelly and observed him work with children throughout his history is pertinent to evaluate this man. All these people have positive experiences and cannot imagine that the man who interacted with their children is the same man accused... it just makes no sense.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 12:52 am on Wed, Apr 11, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403

    Mr Schmidt stated...DB your defense of Catholic pedophiles is well known and long standing. I can't imagine you having anything to add to this conversation...

    Mr Schmidt... in your mind... only in your mind that perverts and distorts reality. For example, I quickly and firmly condemned Oliver O'Grady. Father Kelly is not O'Grady and I see them as two different cases. .. two different people.

    Mr Schmidt, there is something suspicious about you and your depiction of who supports pedophiles. There is something hidden in you that I think someday will be revealed. I would not be surprised if someday I read about you in the papers involved with a repressed memory case.

     
  • Nancy Sloan posted at 11:15 pm on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    N SLOAN Posts: 24

    And I am FRUSTRATED with this newspaper As I watched the blatant display of sides the reporter on this case seemed to take. I was horrified at the editors comments re: Possibly ousting a victim..making me feel like I was following a tabloid. And these lil polls....WHO owns this paper?

     
  • Nancy Sloan posted at 11:12 pm on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    N SLOAN Posts: 24

    THE broken logic of It didnt happen to me so I doubt it happened to him.....Is like hearing someone got robbed and instead of offering your support empathy you instantly accuse them of lies and fraud. Or like Denying the existence of the Tornado that devastated the lifes of your neighbor/fellow parishioner because after all....your house wasn't touched. WTH Is wrong with you people.

     
  • Nancy Sloan posted at 11:08 pm on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    N SLOAN Posts: 24

    The individuals who go on and on re: how they know Michael Kelly and they were never abused...I think back to how many other KNOWN pedophiles I have heard those statements about. I have seen some of the very same faces in this court room spitting venom towards this victim standing in self righteous support some 14 years ago when another "wonderful...blah blah blah" could never" has never touched me or my siblings" I believe in you Father, I'll stand by you Father, I'll raise bail and on and on" calling Victims liars. Maybe you might wipe your Smug hatred off your faces long enough to admit you were there calling the kids liars also when it came to pooor OLIVER O'GrADY! gag

     
  • Nancy Sloan posted at 11:02 pm on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    N SLOAN Posts: 24

    I am so very Frustrated reading most of these comments. The hatred, the ignorance, the lack of support for a victim. Attacking victims OF the CHURCH? Wow !
    Only a few people in the RCC have I met through the years have actually acted in a way I would consider CHRIST LIKE. If supporters of MK asked people to wait until the Jury came in...or asked people to consider both sides...why in world are you so hypocritical?? STOP making comments like EVERYONE from SNAP or ALL victims ____. Hold some accountability people for your own actions and lack of. PLEASE remember regardless of who the person is... YOU are defending a human...not a saint...not a man with special powers, NOT JESUS. I shake my head when I see people act like they are defending Christ, standing in place of Peter, not denying. AUGH. When is it that any of you can say you stood by a victim??? Or publically said what was done to victims and families by Bishops actions was wrong?

     
  • Ben Sanacore posted at 6:42 pm on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    Ben Sanacore Posts: 104

    Mr. Haverson, we know who you are. You're probably a SNAP member or one of its operatives. Not a single shred of credible evidence implicating Fr. Kelly as a pedophile has been brought forward. SNAP is trying very hard to dredge up other people to accuse Fr. Kelly for the big money jackpot. Does anyone remember Father Murty Fahy who served at St. Anne's Catholic Church in Lodi? He was accused after his death some years back of being a pedophile. The Stockton Diocese referred the case to the police dept for investigation and no credible evidence was found. Fr. Fahy was cleared. As many others have said, this is a witch hunt.

     
  • Ben Sanacore posted at 6:36 pm on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    Ben Sanacore Posts: 104

    Darrell answered your latest post well, Mr Schmidt. Now he doesn't have a conscience in your mind. He has a keen uderstanding of the lack of evidence in this case, and his conscience has motivated him to express himself quite well. He is interested in the truth and real justice. You're entitled to you opinion, and Fr. Kelly's overwhelming number of supporters are entitled to theirs. It's clear to me and many others that a clear of lack of evidence presented in this case should have rendered a not liable verdict.

     
  • Jeb Haverson posted at 8:01 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    Jeb H Posts: 8

    Please report any information related to potential victims of Michael Kelly to:

    Calaveras County Sheriff's Department
    891 Mountain Ranch Road
    San Andreas, CA 95249
    (209) 754-6500

    Or contact 9-1-1 if there is a current threat.

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 7:41 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

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    Perhaps I should have said "if" you develop a conscience.

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 7:39 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2239

    DB your defense of Catholic pedophiles is well known and long standing. I can't imagine you having anything to add to this conversation.

    Why don't you get back to us when you develop a conscience?

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 5:33 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

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    Steve also stated... Based on the evidence I have seen, this jury did its job.

    I'm sure then, if Steve was on the jury, he would have thought 2 hours was one hour and 50 minutes too long. He is convinced of the guilt with just reading reports of the evidence. Never mind the dozens of people that have known him for decades very well, and never mind the lie detector tests that the father passed, never mind repressed memory an unproven science... hang um high is all Steve concluded. Just who is foaming at the mouth? I do not think it is Mr Sanacore.

    Steve always is quick to accuse people of supporting and encouraging pedophiles in cases like father Kelly. Ben does not see father Kelly as guilty of anything. Steve's accusation is inflammatory and unfair.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 5:33 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

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    . Steve stated....Wipe the foam off your chin and listen

    Imagine a person (Steve) that believes father Kelly is guilty based on no physical evidence, unreliable repressed memory after 25 years of forgetting, knowledge that father Kelly passed two lie detector tests that the jury did not get to hear and an economic motive to lie tells Mr Sanacore to wipe the foam from his chin... amazing. Actually, I believe all it takes for Steve to believe guilt is to hear the accusation. Just like Pavlov's dog hearing the bell and salivates. He believes as SNAP does.. if someone accuses a priest, they must be guilty. Since Steve never states anything negative against SNAP and only supports them, it is obvious the standard in which Steve sets to think a priest raped a child.

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 4:24 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2239

    Ben, perhaps if you were to focus on what I said instead of what you wish I had said, we might have a basis for a conversation. Instead you are tilting at strawhorses. Wipe the foam off your chin and listen.

    1) Based on the evidence I have seen, I believe Kelly is guilty.
    2) The entire Catholic Church is not evil. I personally know many good Catholics. That said, to the extent that they facilitate the rape of children, many parts of the Church hierarchy are evil.
    3. Not all Priests, Bishops, Cardinals are evil but those who have either committed crimes themselves or facilitated those crimes are.
    4. I will skip over your comments about mass crucifixions since they are obviously the rantings of a mad man.
    5. Based on the evidence I have seen, this jury did its job.
    6. Given the evidence of Kelly's guilt, I believe that you have argued that a local pedophile should be immune from justice.

    You need to wake up, Mr Sanacore. We are not the demons that you have been brainwashed to expect. Most of us are just good Christians who's families and friends have suffered in ways that no person should have to suffer. This Holocaust must end!

     
  • Ben Sanacore posted at 6:50 pm on Mon, Apr 9, 2012.

    Ben Sanacore Posts: 104

    Mr. Schmidt, you are so blinded by your hatred and so steeped in venom that you would crucify an innocent man. You sound like a disgruntled ex-Catholic with an ax to grind. Now the entire Catholic Church is evil in your mind. Isn't it because all Catholic priests and Bishops are pedophiles in your mind? Shouldn't they all be crucified regardless of whether or not there is credible evidence in your mind? Do you see pedophile priests behind every tree, bush, and rock? Mr. Schmidt, we live in a country of laws, and this country was founded on principles of "innocent until proven guilty". A jury that failed to apply critical thinking and demonstrated signs of media brainingwashing toward Catholic priests rendered an unjust veridict, not the truth. Nobody here has argued that true pedohiles should not be brought to justice, but the emphasis is on real pedophiles. I'm confident that on appeal the truth will set Fr. Kelly and the Diocese free. Mr. Schmidt, you need to find a way to deal with your hatred and unresolved anger instead of vomitting it all over unjustly accused people.

     
  • Gil Burns posted at 6:30 pm on Mon, Apr 9, 2012.

    Gil Posts: 1

    I can only speak from my personal knowledge of Fr. Kelly. He is a remarkable, compassionate person. From my knowledge of him I find the charges very hard to beleive. The facts are:
    1. This was a civil trial. No requirement for consensus of all 12 jurors nor guilt beyond a reasonable doubt and no criminal charges.
    2. This was a trial about money. Fr. Kelly and the Church are the medium, and Mr. Manly applied the method.
    3. At the time this all occured, the parents of the alleged victims felt no concern about Fr. Kelly babysitting, but now they have concerns. Seems like they should be culpable.
    I find it very hard to beleive that the alleged victim could have this so called repressed memory, but when Mr.Manly called, discussed what could possibly result from a trial it all became clear!?
    My prayers go out to Fr. Kelly. He lead by example and that is the way I know him. Remebmber, Mr. Manly's sole income is er and a role model of a good christian.
    Lastly, Mr. Schmidt, we should all pray for you.

     
  • Kim Parigoris posted at 10:33 am on Mon, Apr 9, 2012.

    Kim Parigoris Posts: 469

    From the plaintiff's lawyer....“It is frustrating that to get justice against a priest and Diocese of Stockton, you have to hire lawyers and go through a civil trial if you were molested as a child,” he said. I am sorry, but this ambulance chaser lawyer would not be saying this is he had lost the case and all of the money he made on this case. Yes, why don't we just have people line up and make accusations, have no trial, and just wait to collect their earnings...Defending a priest against an accuser is like an employer being able to discharges a union employee even with the evidence stacked against the employee- almost impossible.

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 5:06 am on Mon, Apr 9, 2012.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2239

    DB is, in a sense right. Speaking as a Christian and a former Catholic, I think people who rape little boys are EVIL. I think organizations who facilitate the rape of children are EVIL. To the extent that the Catholic Church engages in the above activities, I believe that they are EVIL.

    This is a sick institution that we are talking about. Tens of thousands of children have been raped here in the United States. Hundreds of thousands of children have been raped world wide. In order for the Church to move forward, it needs to stop enabling pedophiles NOW. It needs to hand the names of known pedophiles and accompanying evidence over to the relevant authorities NOW. It needs to admit its past failings NOW and it needs to purge those Bishops, Cardinals and other members of its hierarchy who worked to keep this Holocaust from the public. The Church needs to take immediate action to insure that nothing like this EVER happens again.

    The Church is sick and, for it to recover, it has to WANT to get better. Until that happens it will, in fact, continue to be an agent for evil.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 11:34 pm on Sun, Apr 8, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403

    Ben... I sincerely hope truth I brought to light. I think the love generated by people who know and were involved with father Kelly counters what the jury perceived as truth. Love is not a product of someone who has hate and evil in their soul. He passed the lie detector test and "ZERO" physical evidence was brought in front of the court, yet he was held liable by what appears to be a gullible jury. In my opinion, it was all an emotional response to the type of witnesses that supported the plaintiff.

    The Plaintiff's attorney is very good at what he does and if presented with a repressed memory case where Mother Theresa was the defendant, he would have won that too. He has won almost a billion dollars in child abuse cases... I anticipate his count will dramatically increase at the expense of innocent priests. Money is this man's god in my opinion.

     
  • Ben Sanacore posted at 9:58 pm on Sun, Apr 8, 2012.

    Ben Sanacore Posts: 104

    Darrell, thank you for responding to Mr. Schmidt. His last post reveals his intense bias and what his motives are. Darell, your posts demonstrate something that should be at the heart of all American discourse, a sense of fairness and true justice. Your posts have cast light on the very real lack of credible evidence in Fr. Kelly's case. With the exception of SNAP and their advocates, everyone who has objectively looked at this case and have seen the severe lack of evidence have come to the conclusion that Fr. Kelly has received a raw deal. All the hate and venom cannot change the truth and despite Fr. Kelly's detractor's propaganda he will never be found liable in the minds of insightful and truth loving people.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 9:32 pm on Sun, Apr 8, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403

    Ms Turlish stated... Child abuse is a epidemic in this country. Historically, laws in our fifty states have been arbitrary and discriminatory - more often than not giving more protection to sexual predators than to their very real victims.

    And here we have a serious problem... this hysteria and perception that it is an epidemic means that it is difficult for a priest to defend himself in a repressed memory case where there is no physical evidence to refute, no DNA evidence to show it was not the priest.

    So if 5-8 of the jurists had a preconceived idea that child abuse is an epidemic, then they would be predisposed to believe guilt in this case. How does one prove they did not do something 25 years ago without any physical evidence? All you have is a plaintiff that will gain millions in wealth if successful
    say... he did it... I remember. The other witnesses only said... yes.. he told me that the priest did it while crying on the stand.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 9:21 pm on Sun, Apr 8, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403

    Mr Schmidt...You have to appreciate the solidarity of the handful of parish posters who have shown up here to rail against the jury's findings

    I am supporting justice and father Kelly sese he did not get it. I am not in the parish and have never seen or talked to father Kelly.
    I think Ben stated it perfectly...
    he said..." The people who have responded here in favor of Fr. Kelly are interested in finding and bringing to justice real pedophiles, whether they are Catholic priests or not. Railroading and falsely accusing a Catholic priest doesn't achieve that end."

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 9:17 pm on Sun, Apr 8, 2012.

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    Joey ( that man who claims to be a real witch) stated...It's amazing to read that despite the facts, and the court trial verdict by an unbiased jury

    Unbiased jury? Let me see... imagne a potential jurist being asked... do you believe that repressed memories are real? Answer... No, I do not think it is a proven science.
    Lawyers response... " Dismissed"... next please.

    Unbiased jury in my view could not have gven a verdict in 2 hours on a case that was completely dependent on one man's claim that he suddenly has a clear vision of what happened after 25 years of not having a clue.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 9:12 pm on Sun, Apr 8, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9403

    Ben... Mr Schmidt has often posted bitter angry remarks whenever the Catholic Church or a Catholic priest is involved. He feels the hierarchic and core of the church is evil and it shows in his comments. SNAP is just a small fraction of this mans reality, in my view, he is so biased and one sided in his thinking, that it would not matter if SNAP existed.

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 9:01 pm on Sun, Apr 8, 2012.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2239

    Ben, if you believe that Christ gave his life on the cross so that folks like Kelly could rape little boys, there is something deeply wrong with you.

    There is nothing at all Christian about these pedophiles or the Church officials who facilitate them.

    I will pray that our Lord and Savior lifts the scales from your eyes and delivers you from the evil that has consumed your heart just like I pray that our Father will bring true justice to these monstrous false priests who have committed such atrocities against our children.

     
  • Ben Sanacore posted at 7:36 pm on Sun, Apr 8, 2012.

    Ben Sanacore Posts: 104

    Mr. Schmidt, you are the gullible one. You've bought the SNAP and media propaganda. There is no parish "local response". When people see that justice is not served, they will respond. You're probably another SNAP operative or maybe just one of their advocates. You don't seem to believe that someone should receive a fair trial, especially a Catholic priest. The people who have responded here in favor of Fr. Kelly are interested in finding and bringing to justice real pedophiles, whether they are Catholic priests or not. Railroading and falsely accusing a Catholic priest doesn't achieve that end. It's clear that you also have an ax to grind and you're making comments that aren't based in reality and perpetrate the hate. Is it because you hate Catholics? Is it because you hate Christians? Is it because you don't believe in justice for all? Is it because you hate Jesus Christ? Is it because Christianity doesn't agree with your lifestyle? Either way, you need to come out of the dark into the light to find and bring to justice real pedophiles not imaginary ones.

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 12:21 pm on Sun, Apr 8, 2012.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2239

    You have to appreciate the solidarity of the handful of parish posters who have shown up here to rail against the jury's findings but the more telling testimony is the silence of the other 99% of local Catholics who know that the jury was right.

    Molester priests like Kelly have visited a Holocaust on the laity of the Catholic Church. While a few individuals like Mr Sanacore may be beyond redemption, people all over the country and, indeed, all over the world are slowly waking up to what has been done to our children in the Church's name.

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 12:10 pm on Sun, Apr 8, 2012.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2239

    I see that the Church has been organizing its local response to this case. Seriously folks, I have never seen a more brainwashed flock of sheep. Really, your defense is that its all a conspiracy??? The Holocaust deniers have nothing on you folks.

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 12:09 pm on Sun, Apr 8, 2012.

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    Larry, if the Catholic Church follows past practice, they will probably put Kelly in charge of some preschool.

     
  • Ben Sanacore posted at 11:27 am on Sun, Apr 8, 2012.

    Ben Sanacore Posts: 104

    Mr. Pierre and Mr. Baumbach make a great deal of sense Mr. Piscatelli. It is you and SNAP with its anti-Catholic Church and anti-Christian agenda that doesn't make any sense at all in persecuting Fr. Kelly. You are so blinded by your hatred and so steeped in venom that you would crucify an innocent man. Now you've gone after the Stockton Diocese's Bishop and claim he should be removed. Isn't it because all Catholic priests and Bishops are pedophiles in your mind? Shouldn't they all be crucified regardless of whether or not there is credible evidence in your mind? Yes, Mr. Piscatelli, we live in a country of laws, and this country was founded on principles of "innocent until proven guilty". A jury that failed to apply critical thinking and demonstrated signs of media brainingwashing toward catholic priests rendered an unjust veridict, not the truth. I'm confident that on appeal the truth will set Fr. Kelly and the Diocese free. Mr. Piscatelli, you need to find a way to deal with your hatred and unresolved anger instead of vomitting it all over unjustly accused people.

     
  • Steven Polich posted at 10:48 am on Sun, Apr 8, 2012.

    StarbucksTroll Posts: 1

    In poker, we call this a free-roll for the plaintiff...no risk at all for playing but a huge payoff if you succeed. I knew Fr.Kelly. As an alter-boy, he used to come to my house and work with me in my darkroom developing film. Never touched me.

    There is no such thing as an unbiased jury...especially when it comes to allegations against priests.

    I had offered to testify and Fr.Kelly did not think it would be needed.

    Time will tell with this verdict. In my view, the only thing that would change my mind regarding his character is if there are a spate of other allegations...I have heard of none. None. Fr.Kelly practically introduced youth soccer to the city of Modesto...where are the other allegations?

     
  • Joey Piscitelli posted at 9:09 pm on Sat, Apr 7, 2012.

    Joey piscitelli Posts: 23

    It's amazing to read that despite the facts, and the court trial verdict by an unbiased jury, that there are still people who say the guilty perpetrator Fr.kelly is innocent. That's why we have courts,and judges, and a legal system, because of biased people who refuse to listen to logic and facts, and choose to protect clergy perps instead. It sure is good to know justice is at hand despite the dangerous thinkers out there. Notice that none of the accused priests who went to jury trials here in California won. That's proof that there are no false accusers-and it's undeniable fact-not an opinion. It's adjudicated. Done. Proven.
    Dave Pierre and Darrel Baumbach would never be allowed on an abuse jury pool, thanks to our fair and intelligent court system. And nothing the complainers say or write will undo the truth- but they'll keep writing things, while the perpetrator gets kicked out of ministry, like he should. But keep writing and babbling, it doesn't matter, Fr. kelly is "bye-bye."
    I beat the abuser priest inmy own jury trial because of truth, and so did the plaintiff in this case. That's how the law works. The law doesn't care what Dave or Darrel write-it doesn't change anything at all. None of their useless quotes will change the verdict. So keep writing...it's amusing.
    In the mean time, for those of us who care about innocent children,which really matters the most, the law has spoken very wisely.

     
  • Ben Sanacore posted at 8:53 pm on Sat, Apr 7, 2012.

    Ben Sanacore Posts: 104


    SNAP continues its persecution of Fr. Kelly and the Catholic Church. Is it because you hate Christians and the Catholic Church in particular? Is it because you hate Jesus Christ? Is it because Christianity doesn't agree with your way of life? With suspect fervent zeal SNAP has persecuted a man without credible evidence, and now it's kicking him when he's down. The difference between Fr. Kelly and the Modesto High School Teacher is that what appears to be credible evidence was gathered by law enforcement in the high school teacher's case; no such credible evidence was gathered by law enforcement in Fr. Kelly's case. Rally behind a priest? I will rally behind anyone who hase been railroaded and falsely accused. Does SNAP understand the devastation that is caused to a person who is falsely accused of such heinous acts of pedophilia? I suspect that SNAP knows full well, and it is by design. Now SNAP is trying to dredge up more "supposed victims". Why? They know the case against Fr. Kelly is very flimsy and isn't likely to stand up to an appeal. They want to find someone else with mental problems or a hatred for Christians to bolster their very weak case. The second strategy is to tear down the Diocese for the next phase of the trial. They're bitterly criticizing the Diocese for a failure to act. It's well known in the Diocese that when abuse toward children is brought to the attention of the Stockton Diocese it is immediately reported to law enforcement for investigation. This idea that the Diocese is negligent does not ring true. It's all a well calculated plan by SNAP to damage the Catholic Church and extract as much money from it as possible. What has struck me the most are the many testimonials from people who were around Fr. Kelly as children and were never molested by him; not only that, they say his influence on their lives has been very positive.

     
  • Lawrence Steinberg posted at 8:45 pm on Sat, Apr 7, 2012.

    Lawrence Steinberg Posts: 65

    Does anyone know whether the Catholic Church is going to make sure this guy is kept away from kids from now on? Maybe they can send him to do penance on some island or something?

     
  • Dave Pierre posted at 6:23 pm on Sat, Apr 7, 2012.

    DPierre Posts: 18

    Read the shocking facts about John Manly, the contingency lawyer in Fr. Kelly's case:
    http://www.themediareport.com/hot-topics/attorney-john-c-manly/

    Despite what others claim, "repressed memory" is completely JUNK SCIENCE:
    http://www.themediareport.com/hot-topics/repressed-memory-debunked/

    Also, Melanie's "95%" claim from a so-called "Catholic expert" is completely unsubstantiated and not based in verifiable fact.

     
  • Meridith Schulz posted at 4:21 pm on Sat, Apr 7, 2012.

    ms88 Posts: 2

    "The truth did not prevail. It doesn't matter how much evidence there was. Manly ignored it like it wasn't important and that is exactly what the jury did. We, on the other hand saw the evidence and thought the case was silly. The only thing they had was the false memory and lies from the mother, father, one friend and the psychologist. They ignored the dates being totally wrong, the ether/chloroform being unrealistic, the stories being unbelievable, inconsistencies, our testimonies...The idea of “so-called recovered memory” can be brought up and that justice was not served." Friends of Father Kelly

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 3:59 pm on Sat, Apr 7, 2012.

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    Joe, is your contention that, because this pedophile didn't molest you he couldn't of molested anyone else? You remind be of the Herminator and the thousands of women he claims he didn't sexually harass.

    This individual had his day in court and the ruling reflects the testimony the jury held there.

     
  • Melanie Sakoda posted at 3:41 pm on Sat, Apr 7, 2012.

    Melanie Sakoda Posts: 16

    Even Catholic experts acknowledge that over 95% of abuse allegations are true,

    http://tinyurl.com/7ry5bfg

    and there is ample evidence that some people can repress the memory of a traumatic event and remember it later.

    http://blogs.brown.edu/recoveredmemory/

    Moreover, it is terribly hurtful to victims to see parishioners openly rallying behind an accused priest. Even if the priest is innocent, somewhere in the parish is a young girl being molested by a relative or a boy being abused by his coach or youth leader. If these children see adults they love and respect publicly rallying around accused perpetrators, they will be less likely to report their own victimization to their parents, the police, or other authorities. They will be scared into remaining silent, and their horrific pain will continue.

    If you have been the victim of abuse, don't suffer alone and in silence. There are people who will believe you and support you.

    Melanie Jula Sakoda
    Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests (SNAP)
    SNAP East Bay Director
    Toll Free Phone: 1-877-SNAPHEALS (1-877-762-7432)
    melanie.sakoda@gmail.com
    925-708-6175

     
  • Mark Mueller posted at 2:35 pm on Sat, Apr 7, 2012.

    MarkMueller Posts: 1

    Father Michael Kelly has been a friend to my family going on 30 years. We welcomed him to our community at St. Patrick's church in Sonora at a time when our church faced some difficult challenges, financial and otherwise. Father Kelly ONLY sought ways to serve the community. He ONLY looked for opportunities to strengthen the church community. He GAVE of his personal time to visit parishiners. he RAISED hundreds of thousands of dollars to remodel and preserve the historic church. He MENTORED my brothers and I through difficult life stages. He MARRIED my wife and I. Father Kelly REACHES out to those in need. Father Kelly is my FRIEND. The court verdict cannot be reconciled with the man who was a direct part of my familie's life for all those years. I echo Mr. Sadek's observations as they are also my experience with Michael Kelly. God Bless You Michael....

     
  • Joe Sadek posted at 12:15 pm on Sat, Apr 7, 2012.

    Joe Sadek Posts: 2

    To all those who are inclined to judge based on newspaper articles: Fr. Mike has been false accused and falsely convicted. I was a child about the same age as the accuser, but I had far more access to this good man. I was an employee in his church, I worked daytime, evening, and weekend hours in the rectory, I worked alone with him in the house, and I witnessed his comings and goings. He came over to our house for many occasions. I was an altar boy and an young lector. He occasionally stayed the night in my family’s house when he was traveling from out of town. He was highly aware of the risks that priests faced, he talked of them, and, after the priest pedophile problem came to light, he avoided placing himself in a situation that would put him at risk for an accusation. Never, ever did I see anything of the sort that the accuser claimed. Never, ever did he behave inappropriately to me or my 5 siblings. He never showed any behavior patterns typical of a pedophile. He has been and will always be a friend to our family. In this case, the jury got it wrong. The greedy trial lawyer won the case. There are many true victims of priest sexual abuse, and they are due the justice they deserve. The people of SNAP are commended for their advocacy. In this case, however, Fr. Mike is innocent. The true victims in this case are the people of his congregation who will lose an EXCEPTIONAL leader. The true victims in this case are are the falsely accused, whose reputations are ruined. Please to everyone, do no judge unless you know.

     
  • Dave Pierre posted at 11:36 am on Sat, Apr 7, 2012.

    DPierre Posts: 18

    The time has come for people to learn the awful truth about SNAP:
    http://www.themediareport.com/2011/01/10/special-report-facts-about-snap-that-will-shock-you/

    The time has come for people to learn the truth about how BOGUS "repressed memory" is:
    http://www.themediareport.com/hot-topics/repressed-memory-debunked/

    The time has come to spread the truth about the dreadful John Manly:
    http://www.themediareport.com/tag/john-manly/

    -

     
  • Judy Jones posted at 11:01 am on Sat, Apr 7, 2012.

    Judy Jones Posts: 11

    This victim is extremely brave for taking action and sharing his painful story. This is not an easy thing to do.

    Hopefully any others, who may have knowledge or may have been harmed by Fr Michael Kelly, will also have the courage to speak up and report it to police.

    When victims stay silent, nothing changes. But when victims find the courage to take action, there's at least a chance for prevention, healing and justice ­ especially when they seek independent sources of support and avoid contacting Catholic officials.

    Judy Jones, SNAP Midwest Associate Director, USA, 636-433-2511
    "Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests" and all clergy.

    (SNAP, the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests, is the world's oldest and largest support group for clergy abuse victims.
    SNAP was founded in 1988 and has more than 12,000 members. Despite the word "priest" in our title, we have members who were molested by religious figures of all denominations, including nuns, rabbis, bishops, and Protestant ministers and increasingly, victims who were assaulted in a wide range of institutional settings like summer camps, athletic programs, Boy Scouts, etc. Our website is SNAPnetwork.org)

     
  • Ben Sanacore posted at 10:03 am on Sat, Apr 7, 2012.

    Ben Sanacore Posts: 104

    We know who you are Mr. Lennon. You're a part of SNAP. Your organization continues to ignore the truth to pursue an anti-Catholic agenda that doesn't consider real truth in determing innocence or guilt. Your posts make it clear that you have an ax to grind and motives beyond simply catching pedophile priests. It was reported today with what appears to be credible police produced evidence that a Modesto High School teacher molested young girls. Where's your outrage over that? It's interesting that SNAP makes a point of going after the Catholic Church and eagerly believes anyone who levies charges against a Catholic priest regardless of any credible evidence. Your allegations against the Stockton Catholic Diocese are now aimed at the next phase in the trial to bleed the Diocese of as much money as possible. I only hope that Fr. Kelly and the Diocese will appeal this unjust decision in the name of truth and in the name of finding and bringing real pedophiles to justice in our society.

     
  • Leanna Mattea posted at 9:53 am on Sat, Apr 7, 2012.

    posey29 Posts: 6

    It's interesting and destressing to read comments here, by people who don't even know Fr. Kelly. Arabella Clark certainly has alot of anger for someone, but it shoudn't be for Fr Kelly, who she doesn't even know. Just because the jury found for the plaintiff, doesn't mean Michael Kelly did it. It's true...where are the other abused children? He
    coached countelss kids in the soccer leagues that he formed in the Valley. Mentored many alter servers in various parishes over the years. One writer said there were stories were numerous victims have come forward...NOT TRUE. This is the original one and another later that was found by law enforcement to have no credibility.
    Lie dector tests given by and FBI profiler found that he "passed without question".
    Fr Kelly is the victim here....the result of other pedophile priests....so they must all be guilty. God Bless you, Michael Kelly.

     
  • terry polk posted at 8:39 am on Sat, Apr 7, 2012.

    Terry Posts: 2

    Amazing what Greed can do...And also, not having Faith can do to a human...These are all lies against the greatest Priest America has ever had the privilege of witnessing...Yet all of us who truly know him, know what matters most to him is God knows the Truth, which in the end...is all that matters. We will all stand behind Father Kelly forever...and for all you involved with making sadness, which you so brilliantly crave, who have no Faith, what a truly sad life you must lead...Father Michael Kelly, you will live in our Hearts until the end of time...

     
  • Tim Lennon posted at 8:27 am on Sat, Apr 7, 2012.

    Tim Lennon Posts: 45

    Kelly had multiple accusations of improper, inappropriate and intimate contact with children. Did the Stockton diocese investigate these multiple complaints? No!
    When the plaintiff first brought his accusation of rape and molestation by Kelly did Bishop Blaire investigate Kelly and the accusation? No! They investigated the VICTIM!
    Bishop Blaire continues the coverup by actively dismissing credible complaints. Blaire seems to think the best way to coverup is to "see no evil, hear no evil, say no evil" when accusations of child sexual abuse by clergy arise. That
    self-complacent and self-satisfied interest to be ignorant of child abuse makes Bishop Blaire complicit in covering for pedophiles. Blaire's statements that he still has a "genuine belief that the accusations are not true,” and “Our view of the evidence has not changed" in the face of overwhelming fact is proof of his disconnection from any moral character.

     
  • Ben Sanacore posted at 7:44 am on Sat, Apr 7, 2012.

    Ben Sanacore Posts: 104

    Allegations don't make victims Ms. Clark. You've been watcing too many crime TV episodes that depict Catholic priests as evil people. Show me one credible witness or victim who was discovered by a law enforcement agency. You seem to ignore the fact that not a single police investigation has determined there is any credible evidence for Fr. Kelly to stand criminal trial. Evidence means nothing to you. It's clear you have an ax to grind against Catholic priests and the Catholic church. Is it that the Church doesn't coincide with your belief system? Why do you hate the Catholic church and Jesus Christ so much that you would support railroading an innocent man? What is your agenda? I have deep sympathy and love for real victims of sexual abuse. They deserve our full support. There is one thing worse than being a victim of a pedophile, and that's being a falsely accused person who did not commit such a crime. Let's find and bring the real pedophiles to justice, not ruin a man's life for misguided and evil ends.

     
  • Arabella Clark posted at 6:17 am on Sat, Apr 7, 2012.

    Arabella Posts: 129

    Ben Sanacore: Um, do you even bother to read the news stories here? New stories say that other victims have come forward over the years. And are you aware that there is going to be another trial in a suit filed by another victim? This victim and the victim who just won don't know each other.

    You really need to read up on the case and get your facts straight before commenting.

     
  • Arabella Clark posted at 6:11 am on Sat, Apr 7, 2012.

    Arabella Posts: 129

    It now turns out there had been many other complaints about Kelly over the years. Think about it; victims who don't know each other, all telling the same story..

    For those of you in denial about this horrible case, I will say a prayer for you. You need it.

     
  • Maureen Turlish posted at 5:36 am on Sat, Apr 7, 2012.

    SMPTURLISH Posts: 1

    I commend all victims of childhood sexual abuse who have found the strength to come forward about the terrible sexual exploitation they have suffered.

    Child abuse is a epidemic in this country. Historically, laws in our fifty states have been arbitrary and discriminatory - more often than not giving more protection to sexual predators than to their very real victims.

    That is changing. Why is it, though, that the hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church is viciously opposing Statute of Limitation Reform whenever it is proposed in state legislatures? Why are state Catholic Conferences spending millions of dollars to lobby against legislation that who better protect children, bring sexual predators to justice and hold those who facilitate and enable sexual abuse to be held accountable as well?

    In Philadelphia the criminal trial of one Msgr. William Lynn finished its second week on Holy Thursday. It will continue at 1 p.m. on Easter Monday in a trial that is expected to go on for about four months.

    Yesterday, Good Friday, almost fifty people held a peaceful, prayerful vigil for victims of sexual abuse, for accountability and trasparency by a hierarchy that fears losing their power and authority hardly realizing that they have already lost all moral authority and credibility in their protection of known sexual predators rather than the children God put in their care.

    In addition to the criminal trial against Philly's Msgr. Lynn, Bishop Finn of Missouri will not be subject to a criminal trial.

    Have they no shame?

    Sister Maureen Paul Turlish
    Advocate for Victims & Legislative Reform
    maturlishmdsnd@yahoo.com

    www.Catholics4Change.com
    www.AbolishSexAbuse.org
    www.Justice4PaKids.com
    www.VOTFGP.org

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 3:51 am on Sat, Apr 7, 2012.

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    Mr Piscitrlli stated...Getting on your knees and holding hands,singing Kumbayah, lighting candles, won't make him innocent.

    Of course not... but the jury finding him civilly liable does not make him guilty of anything either.. That was the opinion of this jury.

    The only thing that would make him guilty would be if he did the crime. What would make him innocent is if he did not do the crime. I wonder if the results would have been the same had the jury been aware that 2 professional lie detector tests on two different occasions were given and he passed them with ease.

    I also wonder where in the world you could find a complete jury that could convict in 2 hours on a case that depended entirely on repressed memory syndrome. I find that amazing. I was a foreman on a jury that dealt with a simply burglary. It took us 6 hours to deliberate and there was lots of evidence and facts leading to guilt. Two hours? Wow I guess it being Friday and wanting a nice night out for dinner was more important. we found him guilty.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 3:29 am on Sat, Apr 7, 2012.

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    Mr Piscitelli stated...No matter what you write- you lost. And I knew it.

    Sorry Mr Piscitelli, you have my sympathy and pity. I think you sound angry, bitter and sound like a child saying... Nah Nah.. I told you so. To talk about me winning or losing is absurd and silly.

    I did not lose anything.. I do not go to church. I have never met or seen Father Kelly. I have not even been inside a church for years. I have never prayed or consider myself religious. I have as they say, no skin in the game. Therefore, I come from an objective independent position. I only made comments throughout because it appeared father Kelly was being railroaded and was not getting justice. I am only in it for justice. It looks like my suspicions had merit.

    You on the other hand, are in it for the the money and some type of revenge motive. You admitted that you cashed in for $600,000 dollars in your law suit. The repressed memory lotto treated you well. All members of SNAP are biased and helped create an atmosphere only seen in lynch mop situations.
    You said the bottom line is that he is guilty. That it is over.
    I guess if I were a child I might think that. But I am not. I think it is you and SNAP that lost today as well as the members of the church who love him. You claim to be a real witch and SNAP claims there is no such thing as a false accuser. The more the general public learns of the unprofessional irrational behavior and thinking of its members like itself, the more you and your organization loses. Just seeing your post today demonstrated how immature you are.
    So enjoy and celebrate you illusion tonight Joey... I will sleep well knowing that you think you won, but in reality, you lost. You just don't know it yet.
    So no, I did not lose at all. I did what I could to attempt to create a balance. Since my motive was to seek justice, and not money like yourself, I won as did anyone who simply wanted fairness and spoke out about it.

     
  • Joey Piscitelli posted at 11:42 pm on Fri, Apr 6, 2012.

    Joey piscitelli Posts: 23

    Darrell, what did I tell you. You are not the judge, you are not the jury. And you and Fr. Mikey are certainly not the winners. No matter what you write- you lost. And I knew it.
    None of the comments here by any supporters of the convicted guilty priest, Fr. Mikey-molester mean anything. ZIP. All of his sheep can write anything they want, and the bottom line is: HE IS GUILTY. No spin doctoring, no praying, no clever wording, no testimomials, no quoting the Bible, no crying, no chanting, no name calling...absolutely nothing is going to work. The court has spoken. It's over. "The truth shall set you free?" Well it has.The truth has set innocent children to be free of the great con-molester.
    The priest is the molester who baptised your kids, who pulled the wool over your eyes, who deceived you, who said wedding vows, who conned you, and who lied to everybody- and the law won. And the victim won. And the perpetrator lost.
    Getting on your knees and holding hands,singing Kumbayah, lighting candles, won't make him innocent. You can write 25000 words on how you think Kelly should have won, and the outcome will still be the same. He lost, he lost, he lost.
    I love when justice prevails for the innocent victim. It's so rewarding. The American dream. The epitome of true, unbiased justice. I salute you, John Manly-the hero.

     
  • Kendra Bishop posted at 10:50 pm on Fri, Apr 6, 2012.

    Kendra Bishop Posts: 1

    I would like to ask those of you who are vilifying Fr. Kelly if you have ever met him? If not please keep your erroneous opinions to yourself. Fr. Kelly has been a friend and mentor to my family since before I was born. My cousins were altar servers for him for many years and he also baptized me. He is a good man and I hope that the person who brought these ridiculous charges against him remembers that "Thou shalt not bear false witness", false being the key word, is one of the ten commandments mentioned in Exodus 20 verses 2-17. I hope your conscience haunts you for the rest of your life.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 10:36 pm on Fri, Apr 6, 2012.

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    Ms McSpoon stated...What does "criminally liable" mean in the case of a man who has taken an oath of poverty...

    It means that the church is next ( civilly)... where the money is. Now that father Kelly's witch hunt as successfully rendered a likely false conviction, the plaintiff will quickly sue the church where their ( the lawyers and plaintiffs) riches and fortunes are found. SNAP and this attorney could care less if father Kelly is innocent or guilty. They have economic motives in my opinion.

    I said at the beginning of the trial that Father Kelly would likely be convicted as too many people actually believe in repressed memories and the attorney representing the plaintiff is a professional specialist in suing the Catholic church for child abuse. He is recognized as one of the best attorneys in California and New York because he has won almost a billion dollars already. This was a stacked deck and justice was not done.

     
  • Tim Lennon posted at 9:52 pm on Fri, Apr 6, 2012.

    Tim Lennon Posts: 45

    Pedophiles need access to children. The take on the mask of a friendly, gregarious, smiling, sweet, and personable. They win the trust of parents and caretakers of children by their smiling charm. Of course, adults are won over but such a nice, friendly and neighborly person. Saying Fr. Kelly is a nice guy and a "joy to meet" does not diminish the fact that he is vile predator who preys on children and sexually molest them.
    Many adults cite their dealings with Kelly as positive--children tell a different story. Kelly, like all child molesters, single out vulnerable children, isolate them, give rewards and special privileges.
    He has been proven to be a vile predator who used his position of power and authority to violate many children and rape a ten year old boy.
    Yes, yes, yes. I will vilify a child molester who would cause so much harm. Any person, no matter how high and mighty can violate the innocence and health of a child.

     
  • Ben Sanacore posted at 9:42 pm on Fri, Apr 6, 2012.

    Ben Sanacore Posts: 104

    There is no shame in the truth Ms. Clark. The truth will set you free. Here's the truth. A criminal investigation turned up nothing on Fr. Kelly. The so-called evidence boiled down to Fr. Kelly tickling kids and a far from universally accepted theory on repressed memory. Pedophiles usually don't stop at one molestation; they continue to molest repeatedly. Where are Fr. Kelly's other victims? Where was the child pornography that these pedophiles typically possess? There was no evidence just a brainwashing of the public, including the jurors, through negative portrayals of Catholic priests in the media and other anti-Catholic forces with political axes to grind and flat out hatred for Christianity and Catholicism in particular. It is an outrage when someone will destroy an innocent man for their own hateful ends. I have no problem going after real pedophiles and I'm certain that all of the people who believe Fr. Kelly want the same. Fr. Kelly just isn't it and wasting resources on Fr. Kelly won't do anything to catch real pedophiles who have harmed children. Let's get the real pedophiles!

     
  • Jose Echaniz posted at 9:01 pm on Fri, Apr 6, 2012.

    jechaniz Posts: 1

    I hope the accuser of this lie can sleep as a result of today's decision. This tragedy of accusing someone who is not guilty is terrible. I know Fr. MIke and he is not a child abuser. He would not sexually abuse any child. I hope the accuser can sleep at night . I will be praying for Fr. Mike Kelly and our diocese.

     
  • Arabella Clark posted at 8:33 pm on Fri, Apr 6, 2012.

    Arabella Posts: 129

    Thanks to the victim and lawyer John Manly for believing the victim and helping him to get justice.

     
  • Joey Piscitelli posted at 8:07 pm on Fri, Apr 6, 2012.

    Joey piscitelli Posts: 23

    Well this is exactly what was expected. The jury found the truth. No victim wants to got through a traumatic trial like this without justification.The victim in this trial is a hero.
    An unbiased jury court trial verdict is always the best indicator of what really occurred, and no statements or negative opinions by anybody to the contrary can trump the verdict.
    I am happy that the jury showed their courage for justice on "Good Friday". It is truly a good friday for justice for this clergy abuse victim and for others like him.
    It is clear that the jurors were not swayed by the lawyers of Fr. Kelly, and the evidence spoke for itself, and Fr.Michael Kelly will face the consequences for the actions he has committed.John Manly is a wonderful hero also, and he should be commended for his bravery, and his pursuit of truth, justice, and the Ameican legal system. Hooray!!
    Joey Piscitelli

     
  • Arabella Clark posted at 8:01 pm on Fri, Apr 6, 2012.

    Arabella Posts: 129

    To Ben Sanacore: You said, "t's clear that the jurors in this case have been swayed by such vilification and the resulting preconceived notions about Catholic priests."

    Shame on you for saying such an uncharitable and unChristian thing to say about hard working jurors on this Good Friday.

    God help you if you have a child who was ever molested by a priest.

     
  • Arabella Clark posted at 7:59 pm on Fri, Apr 6, 2012.

    Arabella Posts: 129

    Celeste White and Florence McSpoon: you're in massive denial. Get some therapy for that.

    You are acting as if he is the first priest ever to be found guilty of this. Ever hear of Father Shanley in Boston, who was a member of the Man/Boy Love Assocation? How about Father John Geoghan, who had over hundred victims and was murdered in prison? Get real. And read "Our Fathers" by David France about the Boston pedophile priests scandal. You will see clones of Kelly all through the book.

    To the victim: I salute your bravery by coming forward. I know this does not alleviate your emotional scars, but I do hope that by coming forward you will encourage others to as well. I would especially like to see victims who are within the statute of limitations for a criminal case to come forward.

     
  • Florence McSpoon posted at 7:48 pm on Fri, Apr 6, 2012.

    Florence McSpoon Posts: 18

    What does "criminally liable" mean in the case of a man who has taken an oath of poverty?

     
  • Celeste White posted at 7:43 pm on Fri, Apr 6, 2012.

    Celeste White Posts: 1

    The irony of Good Friday does not escape us. Father Michael Kelly has been crucified by these blood suckers. I am appalled by the verdict. This man is one of the best people that I have ever had the joy to meet. We have known father Mike since 1972, he officiated our wedding, baptized our children and we continue to consider him a trusted advisor in times of distress and need. To even lump him into what some priests have wrongly done is ridiculous. I am shocked that this jury was so blind to the lack of evidence and the overwhelming support by his parishioners, in every parish that he served in. Well, you got your money you selfish pigs, congratulations. Now leave the good priests alone.

     
  • Ben Sanacore posted at 7:26 pm on Fri, Apr 6, 2012.

    Ben Sanacore Posts: 104

    I would mostly agree with you Ms. Jones if there was any credible evidence to find Fr. Michael Kelly liable. Flimsy evidence, if you can even call it evidence, doesn't make a priest a pedophile. The media and SNAP have so vilified the Catholic Church over the pedophile scandal that a priest can't receive a fair trial. It's clear that the jurors in this case have been swayed by such vilification and the resulting preconceived notions about Catholic priests. Aren't all Catholic priests pedophiles in your mind Ms. Jones? I find it very ironic that this verdict came on Good Friday when another innocent man was destroyed on a cross for crimes he did not commit.

     
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