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Posted: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 12:00 am | Updated: 5:57 am, Tue Apr 10, 2012.

As Father Michael Kelly leaves St. Joachim's Catholic Church in Lockeford after a jury determined that he sexually assaulted a former altar boy in the 1980s, the Stockton Diocese is picking up the pieces.

Bishop Stephen Blaire said Monday that he placed Kelly on paid administrative leave pending a recommendation by a special committee at the Vatican.

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  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:35 pm on Wed, Apr 11, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Josh Morgan stated...Darrell, it sounds as if you attended the trial. I'm trying to wrap my brain around the fact that the jury voted 12-0 in favor of the plaintiff.

    Josh, I think Tim Lennon already gave us the answer. He said the turning point was not any testimony that was given by the questions the attorney's asked of the witnesses. Mr Lennon was in court and observed, then drew his conclusion. He said the plaintiff had an outburst in court where he yelled out to father Kelly, “YOU RAPED ME” among other things. In other words, the jury witnessed an outburst, that was the turning point. SO in my view, that indicated emotion and feelings played a big part in eliminating the thinking that needed to happen. Why else would it take only two hours to deliberate. Had I been on the jury, I guarantee I would have voted not guilty "IF" only two hours had gone by. I would have requested reading of testimony and debated the issues.

    Two hours? All 12 voted to convict? Tim Lennon said an emotional outburst was the turning point?
    I was shocked that Tim Lennon said what he said.

    Maybe I am wrong? Who knows... but I cannot imagine a 12-0 vote after two hours unless they decided by emotion and thinking was thrown out the window. How about a debate in the jury room about the validity of repressed memory syndrome since the entire case was dependent on it. That would take at least 2 days if I were there.

  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:18 pm on Wed, Apr 11, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Sorry Tim... you are not credible in any way. In my view, you are in this for the money and irrational revenge for something that may not of even happened.

    If you wanted justice, you would be more balanced. You would not have stated he was a rapist before the trial even began. You were in front of the court house in December attempting to guide the thinking and perception of the general public. You went to trial every day yet only made comments when something damning was said. Nothing balanced in any way. All your rants have indicated that you considered father Kelly guilty from day one, before any evidence was presented. and the trial was simply a formality.

    In my opinion, you are a bigot toward the Catholic church and it's priests. You state you have never met a false accuser. You also state that if someone accuses a priest of molestation, that means it happened. In my view, that means your opinion is tainted.

    I think the public should not view your “ nice guy act” as anything else but just that, an act.

  • Tim Lennon posted at 2:49 pm on Wed, Apr 11, 2012.

    Tim Lennon Posts: 45

    As a father of twin teenage girls I worry for the safety of my girls. If I was to hear of a dangerous situation at school (a child harmed) I would investigate. I would ask the administrators, I would ask my girls. I would question them as to the exposure to this dangerous situation.
    What I think every parent of the Modesto, Stockton, Lockford, Lodi area, in other words every community Kelly served in, should do is talk to their children in a calm, measured way and discuss their possible exposure to the pedophile Kelly. Take time to listen to their stories and make an effort to support their experiences.
    Don't let the "nice guy" act of Kelly to overwhelm bad behavior.

  • Arabella Clark posted at 2:35 pm on Wed, Apr 11, 2012.

    Arabella Posts: 129

    Posey Mattea: Do you honestly think that Father Kelly would do anything to kids in front of you?

    Sadly the story of Kelly and his MO are a dime a dozen. Or should I say: a dime a ten thousand.

    Pedophiles are almost always charming. First they win over the trust of the parents, so when after grooming the child and zoom in for the kill, when the child comes forward, the parents won't believe him.

    There have been other complaints about Kelly over the years and there will be more to come. The second victim by the way, did not have repressed memories. He never forgot.

    Thank you to Jeb Haverson for posting the information about victims contacting the Sheriff's office.

    The Dr. William Ayres blog is also asking that any victims of Kelly come forward.

    San Mateo child psychiatrist Dr. William Ayres- another pedophile who gained the trust of parents so he could molest young boys- was finally arrested in 2007 after victims had been complaining about him for more than 40 years.

    The Ayres victim who runs the Ayres blog (he's one of about 1000 victims) is asking that victims of Kelly here: http://www.williamayreswatch.blogspot.com/2012/04/to-victims-of-father-michael-kelly-of.html

  • Josh Morgan posted at 6:29 am on Wed, Apr 11, 2012.

    Josh Morgan Posts: 542

    Darrell, it sounds as if you attended the trial. I'm trying to wrap my brain around the fact that the jury voted 12-0 in favor of the plaintiff. It will be very interesting to hear their story once the trial is over.

  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 4:50 am on Wed, Apr 11, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Haverson, can you please post your real name so I can verify who you are and
    determine if I need to contact the FBI as you suggested.

  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 1:23 am on Wed, Apr 11, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Ms Sloan stated... Posey
    How much do you know about child abuse? How much do you know about how long it takes most victims to come forward
    Since we are into questions.... Ms Sloan, how well do you know father Kelly? How many of your children interacted with him for years? How many times did you observe father Kelly in your home playing with your children? What can you offer to this specific case instead of talking in generalities that would be about any case?

    The only thing that is mind blowing as you say, is your inability to separate yourself from child abuse issues and objectively look at one case at a time. Are you forgetting that there is zero physical evidence that father Kelly did anything... ZERO... which means there is ZERO evidence that father Kelly can present to defend himself. He can only show the hundreds of people who has experience working with their children. What I see, as a non church member, is people who admire and respect his behavior over his lifetime.

  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 12:08 am on Wed, Apr 11, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Haverson asked anyone to contact Calaveras County Sheriff's Department if you had any information... about father Kelly that would help convict him...

    Now I have the name of the plaintiff, but I cannot post his name because of the anonymous nature of the case. I cannot post .. “anyone that has information about the plaintiffs character, history, or knows of provable lies that plaintiff has committed or anything that would substantiate that the plaintiff has a history of false complaints, please contact the sheriff...

    The system is rigged in my opinion. Why did Mr Haverson post this when the plaintiff already has an advantage of having one of the nations best attorneys? Because getting public help is good for get getting justice. Evidently, Father Kelly does not have that advantage as no one can talk about who the plaintiff is and report what they might know if they knew who it is that is attacking father Kelly.. This is insane to fairness and justice...

  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 11:51 pm on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    To Ross Farrow...

    In another thread, there were other people including myself that questioned the fairness in reporting of Father Kelly. The news articles were presented in great detail when the plaintiff's witnesses testified. In contrast, after the plaintiff's witnesses finished, the reports almost stopped and nothing was presented except for light details. ( the expert witness for example)
    You did not respond to this concern of fairness and offer an explanation.

    In addition, will the reporting continue as it has been? If so, can you recommend another source of reporting that might be more balanced?

  • Nancy Sloan posted at 11:49 pm on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    N SLOAN Posts: 24


    How much do you know about child abuse? How much do you know about how long it takes most victims to come forward? How do you know what a victim looks like? OR A PERP? What makes you an expert? AND if victims do come forward because they feel safe or to help another victim in a selfless act, many of you would accuse ...the Attorney or SNAP or make comments that are just crazy! I would urge you to get educated. I would warn so many of you against making comments in front of your youngsters that perhaps in the future God forbid...if anything happens they would not feel they could come to you...because they remember how you acted...how you treated the man you didnt know that said he was hurt and protected the other.

  • Nancy Sloan posted at 11:44 pm on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    N SLOAN Posts: 24

    Ben WHAT are you talking about ...the other individual....it is not sudden news. NOT in the least.

    People your comments are sooo mindblowing! NOT having criminal charges doesnt mean anything except an individual escaped arrest due to expiration of time passed to press charges. WHICH FYI IS CRAZY. CA has horrible SOL laws. If you cared about criminal charges so much instead of accusing people of being interested in money...GEEZ get off your cans and start investing some of this on line Energy to getting laws changed.

  • Pete Saco posted at 8:44 pm on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    Pete Saco Posts: 3

    Let me clarify--all the naysayers will realize Father Kelly should have found not liable. The people that know Father Kelly completely know the truth!!

  • Pete Saco posted at 7:45 pm on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    Pete Saco Posts: 3

    Susan McCracken: Your comments are right on target! Repressed memory should have anyone who has ever worked with our youth very scared. It may take some time, and maybe years, but there will be a time when we will realize that Father Kelly should have been found not liable!!l

  • Ben Sanacore posted at 6:55 pm on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    Ben Sanacore Posts: 106

    Is it suddenly a revelation that Fr. Kelly has another accuser? After the media attention and SNAP's efforts to encourage others to make accusations, we have another individual who has made allegations. Mr. Manly, the plaintiff's attorney attempted to admit these latest allegations during Fr. Kelly's trial. Judge McNatt didn't allow it. Why? Allegations aren't evidence as they were in the Salem Witch Trials. Not a single shred of credible evidence implicating Fr. Kelly as a pedophile has been brought forward. SNAP is trying very hard to dredge up other people to accuse Fr. Kelly for the big money jackpot. Does anyone remember Father Murty Fahy who served at St. Anne's Catholic Church in Lodi? He was accused after his death some years back of being a pedophile. The Stockton Diocese referred the case to the police dept for investigation and no credible evidence was found. Fr. Fahy was cleared. When Manly and SNAP's smokescreen blows away and we get to the bottom of these vicious allegations by SNAP and others, I very seriously doubt there will be credible evidence to prove Fr. Kelly is a pedophile. As many others have said, this is a witch hunt.

  • Posey Mattea posted at 6:08 pm on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    chatty95321 Posts: 15

    I have known Fr Kelly for many years. I have seen himn interact with young children in our parish. I have NEVER seen anything that could be construed as discomfort or fear by them, while in his presence. With the many children that particiapted in his role as a soccer coach and instructor, you would think that many would have come forward, if there was any hint of abus. In previous cases, there were multiple accusations. I don't believe repressed memory....if a boy of that age was molested, he wouldn't forget that! This whole case is bogus.

  • Ross Farrow posted at 4:33 pm on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    Ross Farrow Posts: 104

    Josh Morgan: Yes, the same jury is hearing the second phase. Can't answer the rest of your questions. I'll have to find out.

  • Josh Morgan posted at 4:04 pm on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    Josh Morgan Posts: 542

    Thanks for your response Ross. I would assume that it is the same jury that will hear the "second phase" of the trial? My understanding is that if an appeal is filed it will prevent the plaintiff from recovering any loss.

    Will the Church cover the damages for Father Kelly or is he on his own?

  • Ross Farrow posted at 2:15 pm on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    Ross Farrow Posts: 104

    To answer Josh Morgan's questions:
    1. The jury's vote was unanimous, 12-0.
    2. There are two separate defense attorneys: Tom Beatty, whose office is in Walnut Creek, defended Michael Kelly as an individual. Jim Goodman, from San Francisco, is the Stockton Diocese's attorney. In reality, they worked together in preparing the defense. Both Kelly individually and the diocese were sued. The church was not. By the way, the Stockton Diocese consists of Catholic churches in San Joaquin, Stanislaus, Tuolumne, Calaveras and Mono counties.
    3. It would be speculation as to whether the diocese left Kelly "high and dry." The diocese is taking these allegations seriously because it was sued as well.

  • Kurt Roberts posted at 1:25 pm on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    Kurt Roberts Posts: 55

    30 year old charges from a "repressed memory"? Ya, right, I`ve had repressed memories of being attacked by flying monkeys back in the 70`s. I`m pretty sure it happened because it sure seemed real back then!!! I need Mr. manly to get a hold of me right away so I can sue and get lots of money, uh, I mean justice!!!

  • Josh Morgan posted at 11:48 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    Josh Morgan Posts: 542

    Not knowing Father Kelly and not being a member of the Catholic church I am curious about a couple of things. (1) Do they announce the vote of the jury in a civil case? if so, what was a the vote in this case? (2) Who defended Father Kelly? Was it a local attorney hired by Father Kelly or was it an attorney hired by the Catholic Church? Did the Church take these allegations seriously or did they leave Father Kelly out to dry?

    Again, I have no dog in this fight and in no way passing judgement one way or another. Just trying to get a bit of background.

  • Susan Standa- McCracken posted at 11:10 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    SueMcCracken Posts: 1

    I have known Father Kelly directly and indirectly for the past 22 years. Meaning, I taught in a Catholic School in Stockton for 17 years, and believe me, you get to know the priests He came personally into my life because of loved one's deaths { he actually presided at 3 Celebrations of Life for these individuals who passed} I have found him to be an upstanding, humble and unpretentious man of God.I have also been "around" a sex offender.This was a young coach, who we took to court and got a conviction. Trust me, if you have been around a sex/ offender, you get a certain " vibe".And I am not a fool, people will read that last statement, and claim I am. Father Kelly will someday return to his maker.I also believe in ,for the lack of a better word, Karma...........good luck to the young man. Bless you Father Kelly, I will miss those short sermons,but will remain a member of my Church. Peace, Susan McCracken

  • Dave Pierre posted at 9:30 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    DPierre Posts: 18

    "The San Andreas man hasn't decided whether to sue Kelly, Manly said. The man's primary goal is to have criminal charges filed against Kelly, Manly said."

    Yeah, and if you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn.

    John Manly once compared being a Catholic priest to being a train conductor carrying prisoners to Auschwitz. (Hear for yourself.)
    The man is truly despicable, imho.

    The jury was duped - plain and simple - by a totally bogus and discredited theory of repressed memory.

    We are witnessing the 21st century persecution of the Catholic Church, folks.

    My prayers for Father Kelly.


  • Jeb Haverson posted at 8:39 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    Jeb H Posts: 8

    Please report any information related to potential victims of Michael Kelly to:

    Calaveras County Sheriff's Department
    891 Mountain Ranch Road
    San Andreas, CA 95249
    (209) 754-6500

    Or contact 9-1-1 if there is a current threat.

  • Kim Parigoris posted at 8:18 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    Kim Parigoris Posts: 470

    I am convinced that there are bad priests who have misused thier positions to victimize innocent children. I know Father Kelly and I do NOT think he is one of those. His warmth and charisma has been exploited and he is the victim of modern day witch hunting.

  • Christy Newport posted at 8:01 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    Christy chatfield Newport Posts: 1

    Father Kelly passes two lie detector test which were not used in this case! The truth has NOT prevailed! If the plaintiff is telling the truth then step it up and be a man and take the test.

  • Doug Elk posted at 6:43 am on Tue, Apr 10, 2012.

    Doug Elk Posts: 10

    When will these pedophiles be STOPPED?



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