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3 suspected gang members allegedly threaten women in Lodi for wearing red

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83 comments:

  • posted at 3:13 am on Tue, Mar 30, 2010.

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    " Health care law too costly, most say!Nearly two-thirds of Americans say the health care overhaul signed into law last week costs too much and expands the government's role in health care too far, a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll finds, underscoring an uphill selling job ahead for President Obama and congressional Democrats.http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2010-03-29-health-poll_N.htm?loc=interstitialskipREGISTER TO VOTE AND MAKE YOUR VOTE COUNT! "

     
  • posted at 3:38 pm on Mon, Mar 29, 2010.

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    Time for a curfew and a city wide court injunction ala West Sacramento against these guys walking the streets prohibiting from wearing their colors, associating together in public, and doing anything to promote their gangs. It works, it is held up in our court system. Lodi police, need to do their job and get educated like they have in other cities. these guys are out of control. Can you believe, threaten women raising money for another woman who died after childbirth? These are true lowlifes. I don't want them in my city.

     
  • posted at 5:14 am on Mon, Mar 29, 2010.

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    Let's do some math:30 million people are forced to take out health care insurance at $80.00 per month (A low figure). That comes to $2,400,000,000.00 per MONTH! Annually that equals $28, 800,000,000.oo for just one year of health care premiums!Don't forget the Deductibles you MUST pay before the insurance companies have to (TRY to be forced to cover a single illness you have)! If the entire countrty was blessed to only have a $1,000.00 annual deductible the money stolen from the American people is:$30,000,000,000.00 per year!Come ELECTION TIME "VOTE!"If 60 Million Americans are forced to take out Health Care Insurance, the Amount changes to $60 Billion dollars (PER YEAR)!You DEMOCRATS gave the insurance companies permission to "STEAL" $54 Billion dollars a year from Americans paychecks (BEFORE) the insurance companies have to even THINK about covering a single claim!Your paychecks will be smaller EVERY MONTH and the Insurance Companies are laughing all the way to the bank!Remember... "You voted for Obama"... so please open your wallet!"

     
  • posted at 5:13 am on Mon, Mar 29, 2010.

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    The Dog Faced Gremlin wrote on Mar 26, 2010 11:17 AM:" T & C: You're a hypocrite. Where was your outrage when Vice President Cheney told a senator - on the senate floor - to "go f**K yourself?"Biden's remark, while not appropriate, was not malicious and not meant to be heard, unlike Darth Cheney's. "BUT IT WAS HEARD, and I am ashamed of the vice president for saying it and also for Obama smiling at his remark!" Poll: Half say passage of health care law "a bad thing" In the poll, 50% call passage of the bill "a bad thing" and 47% say it was "a good thing." That's at odds with the findings of a one-day USA TODAY Poll taken a week ago -- a day after the U.S. House approved the legislation -- in which a 49%-40% plurality called the bill "a good thing."http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2010/03/poll-half-say-passage-of-health-care-law-a-bad-thing-/1The only thing we Americans can do now is "VOTE ON ELECTION DAY!KICK EVERY DEMOCRAT OUT!

     
  • posted at 9:00 am on Fri, Mar 26, 2010.

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    " Once more, The Dog Faced Gremlin Thank you so much for confirming what I have been saying about an "Embarassing Vice President's comments on TV before millions of Americans!"

     
  • posted at 7:37 am on Fri, Mar 26, 2010.

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    T & C: You comprehend as well as Darth Cheney. You're about as egotistical as the Dark Lord too.

     
  • posted at 7:18 am on Fri, Mar 26, 2010.

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    The Dog Faced Gremlin wrote on Mar 26, 2010 11:17 AMBiden's remark, while not appropriate, was not malicious and not meant to be heard, unlike Darth Cheney's.".Thank you so much for confirming what I have been saying about an Embarassing Vice President!

     
  • posted at 6:17 am on Fri, Mar 26, 2010.

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    T & C: You're a hypocrite. Where was your outrage when Vice President Cheney told a senator - on the senate floor - to "go f**K yourself?"Biden's remark, while not appropriate, was not malicious and not meant to be heard, unlike Darth Cheney's.

     
  • posted at 7:38 pm on Wed, Mar 24, 2010.

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    Wow...I didn't read all of the posts....but I read enough. Seriously....enough is enough. You know what I see on this page? A lot of the same hate that this article is speaking of. NOBODY can get along anymore! It's REALLY sad! Really it is! Red is the color of the blood the Jesus Christ shed for each and every one of us. Yet we all act like we are animals out to kill our next prey! It doesn't just anger me, it makes me ill. A room full of pre-schoolers get along better than this! We should ALL be ashamed.

     
  • posted at 12:56 pm on Wed, Mar 24, 2010.

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    T & C: Geez, you're just like Brian in that you like to "tell" me what I think. That's really weird. And that's why people don't like to talk to you here. Enjoy your mindless ranting and raving. Obviously, no one cares enough about what you have to say to actually engage. Keep begging for responses. Pathetic.

     
  • posted at 11:20 am on Wed, Mar 24, 2010.

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    tazz, good point! Also, I do believe people of all races should come together with a plan to help reduce and defeat these punks. Having decoys walk in the area of Hale Park or East Pine, Elm, and Locust streets wearing red would help attract them to confront you with their terrorism, but, the police (for safety reasons) need to be part of decoy plan. Many times, these punks will confront and attack in a group against one person!

     
  • posted at 6:53 am on Wed, Mar 24, 2010.

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    Can people keep to the subject at hand and not go off on their personal political agendas??? This issue here of the gang threat right here in Lodi is something that needs to be addressed.Whether you like Obama and the democrats or not has absolutely nothing to do with the problem here on the streets today--a problem that has been going on for much longer than Obama has been in office.

     
  • posted at 4:13 am on Wed, Mar 24, 2010.

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    We should wait for them to walk out of court on 3/29 (i'm sure they will get released) and beat their ***! Teach them what punks they are! Here is the San Joaquin County Jail link of people in custody:http://wic.sjsheriff.org/WhosInCustody/QueryByName.aspx

     
  • posted at 3:52 am on Wed, Mar 24, 2010.

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    To T & C....Yes, EXACTLY!

     
  • posted at 12:44 pm on Tue, Mar 23, 2010.

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    Lodian, In your eyes, there is NOTHING in the Democratic Party that they can do wrong!"Tunnel Vision" is indeed one of your stronger points!Do you deny that Obama's Aunt is an "Illegal Alien" and living in the United States?BOSTON, Massachusetts (CNN) -- A federal immigration judge says President Obama's aunt, who has stayed in the United States illegally for years, will be allowed to remain in the country until at least next year.http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/02/obama.aunt/ Is it me, or does anyone else feel it is a coincidence that Obama is pushing in a panic to grant all "Illegals" Total Amnesty? Gee: I wonder what specific illegal will be granted Amnesty first?

     
  • posted at 12:39 pm on Tue, Mar 23, 2010.

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    T & C is waiting for one single Democrat to say that the Vice-President did NOT say on National TV what I allege below!Gee!The Democrat bloggers are suddenly very very quiet!Just wait until election time Lodian.

     
  • posted at 12:37 pm on Tue, Mar 23, 2010.

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    To Lodian:Since Obama has the authority to enact law to deport "Illegals" who are Gang Members... yet he does nothing... yes I blame him!Oh I suppose you want to pat the Vice president on the back too Lodian?Well doesn't the below comment by the vice president make you also feel proud?" Aren't you democrats PROUD of your Democrat Vice-President who says on TV to Pres. Obama, in front of millions of viewers... "This is a big F##king deal"?I am ashamed of anyone who voted for a democrat president. And do you think for 1 moment they don't talk about America behind our backs? "here is the web link proving what the vice president told Mr. Obama who thought it was quite funny!http://buzz.yahoo.com/buzzlog/93499?fp=1To have the president of the United States of America appear absolutely unconcerned by such a trashy, disrespectful comment, makes me wonder even more about the 2 men in charge of America's future!God help us all! This is the kinda crap we have to put up with when the democrats are in office!

     
  • posted at 8:59 am on Tue, Mar 23, 2010.

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    T & C: Do you blame Obama when you stub your toe? When you miss the bus? When you have gas? Stop telling others not to "crack jokes" when you are not willing to be serious yourself.

     
  • posted at 8:53 am on Tue, Mar 23, 2010.

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    T & C wrote "I blame Obama for the nationwide Gang crap destroying America!"I was unaware that the official start of gang trouble in the US started on January 20, 2009. Maybe that's just the official date on the books or something as I am certain that there have been gangbangers a lot longer that that, T & C.

     
  • posted at 8:19 am on Tue, Mar 23, 2010.

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    I blame Obama for the nationwide Gang crap destroying America!Total Amnesty is not the solution.Deportation is the solution.

     
  • posted at 8:15 am on Tue, Mar 23, 2010.

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    pre$$ure$on wrote on Mar 20, 2010 9:07 AM:" tjeff, I don't think Chief Main needs a bunch of gun nuts like you, gator, and dogs running around Lodi shooting at everyone that has a red or blue type apparel on. There is no solution for the gang problem, live with it. If there is, please let us know. "Pressy... why are you trying to crack jokes in a serious issue?

     
  • posted at 8:14 am on Tue, Mar 23, 2010.

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    Bloggin Betty wrote on Mar 20, 2010 8:23 AM:" Will someone please map out the parts of Lodi I can safely wear my red Lodi high shirts? After all I am a graduate and have the right to wear them. I sure would hate to make the whittle gang memburs upset by my red shirt...waaa. Red is one of the colors of our flag you fools. You know,the flag of this great nation that allows people to wear red where ever they want. This isn't the United States of the Gang Bangers; it's the United States of America where you were probably raised with all the freedoms us red shirt wearing people had as well. Find God and grow up, this isn't the way we should act to one another."Bloggin Betty ... Now you know the "Liberals in California will Never go along with your Idea!" Gang bangers have far more "Rights" then do their victims!

     
  • posted at 8:00 am on Tue, Mar 23, 2010.

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    gail1 wrote on Mar 20, 2010 8:10 AM:" lets see how far this goes to court. just send them to back to mex. nothing will happen to them here. wait and see."Come on gail1, you know DEPORTATION is "NEVER AN OPTION IN CALIFORNIA!Wait till Obama passes his "IMMEDIATE Amnesty/Citizenship plan "Courtesy of the Democrats! Then "We The People" won't even be able to DEPORT them to save our own lives!

     
  • posted at 7:58 am on Tue, Mar 23, 2010.

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    steve wrote on Mar 20, 2010 7:26 AM:" Can someone explain to me why these young individuals are not charged with having engaged in some sort of "Hate Crime"? Is it not a crime of hate or one of passion that drives these poor tortured souls to commit these vile acts?"I will explain it to you in simple terms:Gang members who live in California have MORE LEGAL RIGHTS then do non-gang members.We are all sheep, waiting to be murdered.

     
  • posted at 7:56 am on Tue, Mar 23, 2010.

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    LodiJoe wrote on Mar 20, 2010 5:52 AM:" Going to prison/jail for these punks is like sending our kids to college. They learn to hone their gang skills so when they get back out on the streets they are 10 times worse than before. "Sadly you are 100% correct LodiJoe!Gang bangers get names and addresses of other gang thugs so they can band together once released.

     
  • posted at 7:48 am on Tue, Mar 23, 2010.

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    I have Blue as well as Red t-shirts and I "REFUSE" not to wear them because some "IDIOT" thinks he is a bad a$$ to intimidate me!Carry a cell phone folks and put animals like these behind bars where they belong! DEMAND the prosecutor add Terrorist threat and gang enhancement penalties to their list of charges!Why are the Lodi PD not conducting Probation/Parole sweeps on the East side?We can see the problem... can't Lodi PD?

     
  • posted at 5:13 pm on Mon, Mar 22, 2010.

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    Since Obama is closing Gitmo can't we send the gangs there?

     
  • posted at 10:41 am on Mon, Mar 22, 2010.

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    This is so completely ridiculous! The "turf" that these morons carry on about is the City of Lodi, the County of San Joaquin, the State of California, the United States of America. When are the citizens going to wake up and insist that something be done about these thugs? I'm so tired of it. If a group decided to have a "Freedom March", and wore red and blue T-shirts and paraded up and down Stockton Street, you can be certain these cowardly punks would not bother them, because it would be a group. They only accost people who are by themselves. I still think this should be a job for Homeland Security. By marking out their own boundaries, and threatening "trespassers" are they not setting up their own countries within the USA?

     
  • posted at 8:42 am on Mon, Mar 22, 2010.

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    OOPS, posted to wrong topic.

     
  • posted at 8:41 am on Mon, Mar 22, 2010.

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    Just wait until you find out the SEIU union has convinced Obama that all health care workers approved by the Feds are REQUIRED to join the union and pay union dues. Oh yea, that'll lower health care costs. Obama owes SEIU for contributing BIG BUCKS to his campaign. Didn't hear anything from the SEIU about the vote? Nope, but you can bet your last dollar they are rubbing their hands together and smiling and already figuring out ways to spend the BILLIONS they will collect in duew, paid by YOU.

     
  • posted at 7:40 am on Mon, Mar 22, 2010.

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    This is really sad. Citizens can't go anywhere anymore without having to worry about being threatened or anything! Children can't wear certain colors because then their beaten up for something that their not even involved in! Galt is the same way, their is so many Southerners their that I think the cops are even afraid of them! They need to round 'em all up and put them somewhere to do very hard labor or something to put them in check! They have to much time on their hands and are not productive citizens!!!! Where's the parents??

     
  • posted at 5:34 pm on Sun, Mar 21, 2010.

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    Unstuck-Yea because not everywhere has these problems?Sounds like you've got some un-resolved issues with Lodi, eh?

     
  • posted at 4:05 pm on Sun, Mar 21, 2010.

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    They are probably already out and planning their next act of violence. Hang-em!

     
  • posted at 4:00 pm on Sun, Mar 21, 2010.

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    All were arrested on *suspicion* of making terrorist threats.I wonder if anything would come out of this. Three teens. Too young and too stupid.

     
  • posted at 3:40 pm on Sun, Mar 21, 2010.

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    Try and fry em!

     
  • posted at 2:27 pm on Sun, Mar 21, 2010.

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    warrenb1973, you're most likely right! If not, I'm sure they will be OR'd after court tomorrow! Terorest threats (even though a felony), don't do much time.

     
  • posted at 12:02 pm on Sun, Mar 21, 2010.

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    The funny thing is that they are probably already out of jail,and will not do any time what so ever!!!!

     
  • posted at 12:00 pm on Sun, Mar 21, 2010.

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    RED? Lodi Highs colors are RED? would this be why they dropped out of School too?

     
  • posted at 11:35 am on Sun, Mar 21, 2010.

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    Point is no one "Has" to join a gang. That is pure Bull S***!!!

     
  • posted at 10:20 am on Sun, Mar 21, 2010.

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    lodiboy, wouldn't you feel insecure if you were a 10-25 year old male and either had to join a gang or pay that same gang a "fee" to walk out your door in your own hood? Or get your butt whooped, sliced or shot? Welcome to Lodi.

     
  • posted at 8:33 am on Sun, Mar 21, 2010.

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    Gangs serve no purpose, whatsoever. Anybody who needs to join groups for pride, toughness, etc. - is clearly insecure. Waste of time and energy. While the U.S. has many rights and a large degree of freedom, if abused, then government should rewrite laws and put new ones in place to ensure the survival of morals and peace. Other countries would not tolerate behavior like this. They'd be executed or shot by police.

     
  • posted at 7:44 am on Sun, Mar 21, 2010.

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    Prison population is made up of 38% illegal’s in California prisons and 35% in Federal lock up.. California Street Gangs are 47% Mexican with a large number being Illegal. TheRest being Blacks, Asians and White, now mostly Eastern Block countries such as Serbs, Russians Etc. Motorcycle Gangs are not counted as they are more involved in various Criminal activities and not running around the streets looking stupid.. Gangs of anytype need to be beat down till they holler mama!! Get on their back and stay there tilla point is reached just short of harassment and if it goes a little over so be it.. And theA.C.L.U can go pound sand… 6 round’s from a 44 no less, no more!!

     
  • posted at 6:35 am on Sun, Mar 21, 2010.

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    LodiJoe, Just wait for the day when Stockton's Asian gangs reach Lodi! Those Asian gangs are cold blooded barbaric killers! They put most gangs to shame. The black gangs are not as powerful in northern California these days.

     
  • posted at 5:19 am on Sun, Mar 21, 2010.

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    FREESPEECH...I never said gangs were limiteed to ill;egals and immigrants but even YOU must admit the vast majority are. They come to my house, their next of kin will have to be notified.

     
  • posted at 3:53 am on Sun, Mar 21, 2010.

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    Lodijoe, etc. - If you think gangs are strictly related to illegals and immigration issues, YOU are also naive and looking for a scapegoat to blame!

     
  • posted at 7:36 pm on Sat, Mar 20, 2010.

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    WAKE UP LPD! PRETTY SOON BEFORE YOU KNOW IT LODI WILL BE LIKE OAKLAND. TO ALL THE JUDGES THE ONLY THING THAT THESE GANG BANGERS KNOW IS VIOLENCE. SO DISH OUT SOME OF YOUR OWN. HARD LABOR! MAYBE THE GOOD CITIZENS OF LODI SHOULD TAKE MATTERS INTO THERE OWN HANDS? LIKE THE BOONDOCK SAINTS? REMEMBER 30 YEARS AGO WHEN YOU COULD LEAVE YOUR DOORS UNLOCKED? WHAT HAPPENED LPD? THERE IS NO JUSTICE! I GUESS I WOULD'NT MINED OPENING UP THE LNS TO FIND 10-30 GANG MEMBERS STACKED UP IN THE PARKS WERE THEY LAY....AAHHHHHHH JUSTICE!

     
  • posted at 4:23 pm on Sat, Mar 20, 2010.

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    Any surprise these thugs ended up being found at Hale Park? Just drive by there and you can see Lodi's finest gang members hanging out there.

     
  • posted at 2:51 pm on Sat, Mar 20, 2010.

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    These scumbags do these kind of things in this town cause they know its tolerated. The LPD know deep down that they should turn this town upside down and round up these gangbangers. Judge Warner,Baysinger,and Sibling should throw the book at these a-holes and make a example out of them.Im sure LPD does there best but it takes more than that to get ahead of these tweekers that sit up all night thinking of ways to break the law. WAKE UP!!! They are a gang,so let our gang (LPD) Fight back!!!

     
  • posted at 11:50 am on Sat, Mar 20, 2010.

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    UNSTUCK IN LODI..If you think this problem is unique to Lodi, you are as naive as they come. These punks exist in virtually every community in the United States. Some places have escaped their presence so far, but it is just a matter of time. Political correctness is going to be the death knell of America. Caving in to all the legal AND illegal immigrants demands. Not their requests, their DEMANDS. Close the borders.

     
  • posted at 11:37 am on Sat, Mar 20, 2010.

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    who would ever want to live in lodi, after reading about these idiots

     
  • posted at 10:46 am on Sat, Mar 20, 2010.

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    Gator, Exactly! Those countries you named still have the balls to enforce strict law. The United States government has just been soft and willing to let anyone come in at continued mass numbers. It seems as if immigrants get treated better since they get a lot of good state and federal jobs ahead of everyone else. The post office and state Employment Developement Department are good examples.

     
  • posted at 10:36 am on Sat, Mar 20, 2010.

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    Jason. J Well said, I have been for a freeze on immigration for some 10 yearsnow. A friend of mine got a job with BC Hydro as a Lineman working in British Columbia part of his requirement to enter the country and workwas 10,000 in the bank and not go on any kind of assistance for 1 year..Australia and New Zealand it’s next to impossible to get in unless you are abenefit to the country.. We have benefited greatly by many of the people who came from all corners of the globe but it’s time to stop and say no more. As far as a certain Segment of society goes we don’t owe them S***.

     
  • posted at 10:16 am on Sat, Mar 20, 2010.

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    Gator, while you make some good points, I'd like to point out that in times of recession, we shouldn't be allowing legal immigration as well since the jobs aren't there for us citizens.

     
  • posted at 10:09 am on Sat, Mar 20, 2010.

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    preureon, all of these gang members need to be charged with street terrorism. For some reason that doesn't always happen. The fact that some of their parents come here illegal and have anchor babies makes things more complex because the law on "anyone" born in the U.S. is a automatci citizen needs to be changed.

     
  • posted at 9:30 am on Sat, Mar 20, 2010.

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    Some where along the line these people of any race don’t understand what itmeans to assimilate… That means become a self sustaining member ofSociety, speak English and not become a welfare rider like some of our own.. We owe these people respect as long as they earn it but that is as faras it goes… That was for legal immigrants, as for the illegal’s we owe themNothing but a fast ride home… But now it looks like Obombo is going tofavor amnesty .. I said I would give him a fare shot, well so far I’m not impressed, not even close.. If he gives the amnesty and rams Health carethrough with out an up or down vote impeachment seems like a goodalternative

     
  • posted at 9:17 am on Sat, Mar 20, 2010.

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    Thanks for the info Jason J, enjoy your Saturday while living in a van down by the river and consuming large amounts free government cheese.

     
  • posted at 9:12 am on Sat, Mar 20, 2010.

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    How about putting them downtown in old fashioned stocks, their head and hands though holes and make them wear their "colors" in lacy women's underwear with a sigh telling everyone they are bangers and why they are there. I am thinking a little embarassment will go a long way with these punks.

     
  • posted at 9:03 am on Sat, Mar 20, 2010.

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    This is easy. Put some undercover officers in red (or blue) and when a rival gang member (or wanna be) pulls up talking smack and shows off his gun- the undercover should fire and not hesitate. Its hunting season at it's finest.

     
  • posted at 8:33 am on Sat, Mar 20, 2010.

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    Jason J, here are some important figures, far-reaching as they are, that were given to the organization that I'm a board member of, by LPD in august 2008. There were approximately 300-400 documented gang members, 150-200 undocumented, meaning they haven't had an arrest yet. The surenos are north of Lodi avenue, nortenos are south, with Pakistani's controlling the Blakely park area. Many are juveniles to minimize the amount of time they'll serve for their crimes. Those were figures from two years ago and I'm sure the numbers have grown since then. Hopefully our group efforts will be solidified sometime soon and we can make an impact on these youths lives.

     
  • posted at 7:53 am on Sat, Mar 20, 2010.

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    turricha2, they not only hang out at Hale Park, but charge families and picnickers a fee for using the tables and bbq's and protecting them while they're there.

     
  • posted at 6:55 am on Sat, Mar 20, 2010.

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    Fine outstanding members of the community , doubtful they could spell gatoIf you gave them the GA and O more that likely on some kind of tax payerAssistance…Now then if they are illegal put them on a HC-130 with a parachute, fly over México and out you go!!! Don’t come back!!!!

     
  • posted at 6:47 am on Sat, Mar 20, 2010.

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    Time for LPD's Spring Round-up! Don't be surprised if we hear helicopters soon. :)

     
  • posted at 5:55 am on Sat, Mar 20, 2010.

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    I live on the east side and the gangs always tag our walls and hang out at the local park...why cant the police get to them before the start a problem? I cant let my children play anywhere because they get threatened by thugs !! I now keep several shotguns at the ready,just to protect my family and I will shoot first and call police after!!! I have called several times about these thugs and the police take up to an hour to respond and when they do get here they talk to them and then let them go !!!I want my city back!!!! Wait until this happens to someone on the west side in a good neighborhood and you will hear a different story!!!

     
  • posted at 5:48 am on Sat, Mar 20, 2010.

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    steve, a hate crime example is when someone targets you or your boyfriend. It's not considered a hate crime to target people of your own ethnic group or sexual orientation..for some reason.

     
  • posted at 5:40 am on Sat, Mar 20, 2010.

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    My isn’t this special, pressie baby is shooting his mouth again with nothing to back it up…Still FOS as ever!! If the cops would ride herd on the littledears like they used to this B/S would stop. Also if ICE would just do it’sJob things would slow down markedly…If they are illegal’s in the mixdeport them we owe then nothing but a fast trip back home, where everthat might be. You have a problem with that pressie?? If all else failsmaybe the Hells Angels might get their attention…..

     
  • posted at 5:21 am on Sat, Mar 20, 2010.

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    patriot-2000, while I agree 100% with you, the sad part is these punks will shoot you in the back before you ever see their faces.

     
  • posted at 5:16 am on Sat, Mar 20, 2010.

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    These two look like "Dumb" and "Dumber"

     
  • posted at 5:13 am on Sat, Mar 20, 2010.

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    Bloggin Betty, I'd be more than happy to explain: North of East Lodi Ave is "sureno" (blue) and South of East (and West) Lodi Ave. is "norteno" (red).Statistically, a lot of surenos are illegal immigrants or their parents are.

     
  • posted at 5:09 am on Sat, Mar 20, 2010.

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    We need to first find out if they are illegals before we speak! Second, if they are, it makes matters much harder because if sent back, they might return. I say implant tracking devices if they are illegals. If they are citizens, hopefully other inmates will take care of them! As for the minors doing this, I feel their parents should be charged with a crime as well and CPS involved.

     
  • posted at 5:06 am on Sat, Mar 20, 2010.

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    I agree with TJefferson, law enforcement does its' best to protect the public, but let's face it, it takes an officer between 5 and 10 minutes to respond to a serious call. They can't be everywhere. People should be able to carry a concealed weapon to protect themselves. The regarding CCWs should be changed to say police chief's shall issue unless they are articulate the reason to deny a permit. It's different in each city depending on the person sitting at the chief's desk. It should be the same state wide. Until then, open carry is your only option. opencarry.org

     
  • posted at 5:05 am on Sat, Mar 20, 2010.

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    Press, are you seriously saying that since there is nothing we can do about it then we shouldn't try? There are a lot of crimes we can't do anything about, should we not try to enforce the laws then?And there is a simple, current tech solution for the gang activity. If you are picked up engaging in gang activity, and I mean any gang, White supremacists to small city red vs blue gang even biker thugs, then you are tagged around the ankle with a tracking mechanism. Then said thug is not allowed to socialize with more than one other member of the ankle bling club of face property seizure (since I don't think the would pay fines).Three things happen with this. 1) more money for the coffers. 2) ability to track gang movement through those that insist on being with old crew. 3) If a crime is reported a simple check of the band identifications immediately places the thug at the scene and where they can be picked up. Bands can be removed 5 years after last known crime.P.S. I support this system for sexual predators as well.

     
  • posted at 4:39 am on Sat, Mar 20, 2010.

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    losers thats all i got

     
  • posted at 4:17 am on Sat, Mar 20, 2010.

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    Great point Bloggin Betty. My thought was this; red was a color long before gangsters thought of their blue/red, we/them rules. Remember, we learn primary colors back in Kindergarten. I refuse to live in fear because immature minded thugs have this idea in their mentally challenged brains that if citizens of this great country wear red they must belong to a gang. It's called gang mentality thinking. Not every single person who wears red is a gang member thug person who desires above all else in life to hurt somebody else. It must take a big man to carry around a gun and threaten women who were only trying to do good for a woman's family who died unexpectedly. My question is this: If you were such a big man to expose and threaten women with it (gun), then why did you run and cower and hide the gun before the police came around? Well, I wish they would build a prison just for gang members. That way they can plot their little wars and just beat the tar out of each other every single day of their lives and leave the innocent people alone.

     
  • posted at 4:07 am on Sat, Mar 20, 2010.

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    tjeff, I don't think Chief Main needs a bunch of gun nuts like you, gator, and dogs running around Lodi shooting at everyone that has a red or blue type apparel on. There is no solution for the gang problem, live with it. If there is, please let us know.

     
  • posted at 3:25 am on Sat, Mar 20, 2010.

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    Maybe it's time Lodi had a bounty system in place for gangs. Kind of like hunting wolves in the old days. Every gang member you drag into the police you get a cash reward. Only a fraction if the gang member is dead, maybe a bonus if they are reduced to not being a threat to anyone any more.Not to serious with this suggestion. (for those of you who think i was.) But seriously, if the LPD doesn't get the gangs under control the possibility of vigilante groups forming to crush them in a non-legal way exists. Then I can see the gangs sueing Lodi for NOT enforing the laws that would have arrsted them and kept them safe.

     
  • posted at 3:23 am on Sat, Mar 20, 2010.

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    Will someone please map out the parts of Lodi I can safely wear my red Lodi high shirts? After all I am a graduate and have the right to wear them. I sure would hate to make the whittle gang memburs upset by my red shirt...waaa. Red is one of the colors of our flag you fools. You know,the flag of this great nation that allows people to wear red where ever they want. This isn't the United States of the Gang Bangers; it's the United States of America where you were probably raised with all the freedoms us red shirt wearing people had as well. Find God and grow up, this isn't the way we should act to one another.

     
  • posted at 3:10 am on Sat, Mar 20, 2010.

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    lets see how far this goes to court. just send them to back to mex. nothing will happen to them here. wait and see.

     
  • posted at 2:26 am on Sat, Mar 20, 2010.

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    Can someone explain to me why these young individuals are not charged with having engaged in some sort of "Hate Crime"? Is it not a crime of hate or one of passion that drives these poor tortured souls to commit these vile acts?

     
  • posted at 2:08 am on Sat, Mar 20, 2010.

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    All right 3 upstanding young people who just want to do jobs Americans won't do and get and education at taxpayer expense so they can get ahead.Chief Main, when are you going to start issuing CCW based on self-defense....you have the opportunity now to do what is right before the courts force the state of California and its draconian CLEO's to follow the constitution....how many more private taxpayers will end up being the victims of thugs and gangsters...the LEO's have no responsibility to protect us...I really wish our LEO though my life was worth protecting instead of maintaining their own little power kingdom....

     
  • posted at 1:59 am on Sat, Mar 20, 2010.

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    Yust dose crazy Swedes from Nort' Dakota again havin' som innocent fun.

     
  • posted at 12:52 am on Sat, Mar 20, 2010.

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    Going to prison/jail for these punks is like sending our kids to college. They learn to hone their gang skills so when they get back out on the streets they are 10 times worse than before.

     
  • posted at 12:48 am on Sat, Mar 20, 2010.

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    Must be some IRISH gang. I bet the LPD is rounding up all the leprechans as we speak.

     
  • posted at 10:44 pm on Fri, Mar 19, 2010.

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    The cops need to sweep all those guys up and make them wear red while they are in jail!

     
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