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America's War Within: Homeland Security marked by waste, lack of oversight

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Posted: Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:00 pm

Soon after hijackers obliterated the World Trade Center towers eight years ago, Marin County received more than $100,000 in surveillance equipment to keep its water treatment system safe from a terrorist attack.

But four years after the funds were awarded, state authorities found more than $67,000 worth of the gear still boxed in its original packaging.

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  • posted at 5:48 pm on Fri, Sep 11, 2009.


    Dogs, you gave me a tear. Sniff!

  • posted at 2:42 pm on Fri, Sep 11, 2009.


    Cogito, take a bow, jb take a seat, in the corner.

  • posted at 12:03 pm on Fri, Sep 11, 2009.


    See, what happened jb, was that those who wanted it passed were willing to add compromises into the bill that the Democrats wanted. They did this to create a veto proof majority. The bill was passed by a bi-partisan vote in the house overwhelmingly. but not in the Senate. So when the final version, the version that repealed the law, was voted on, it got 90 votes. Clinton signed it into law because he had no choice. Whether or not he would have vetoed it was rendered immaterial.

  • posted at 11:02 am on Fri, Sep 11, 2009.


    Wait jb, I stand corrected, the final Senate vote was 90 to 8 after the Democrats got their way for sub prime lending.

  • posted at 10:58 am on Fri, Sep 11, 2009.


    Check out this video if it's still available. http://www.youtube.com/v/ MGT cSi&Rs&hl=en&fs=l&rel=0

  • posted at 10:54 am on Fri, Sep 11, 2009.


    Check again jb, it's final number was 91 veto proof votes. I don't remember there ever being 91 Republican Senators. The Democrats heavily signed on after they got their provision of adding lower lending qualifying standards to the bill. Then they doggedly defended those lower standards until it was too late.

  • posted at 10:45 am on Fri, Sep 11, 2009.


    OH.. and in case anyone is wondering, the Republican's #1 argument for repeal of Glass/Steagall was that they wanted deregulation of the Credit Markets.

  • posted at 10:41 am on Fri, Sep 11, 2009.


    The bill that ultimately repealed the Glass/Steagall Act was introduced in the Senate by Phil Gramm (Republican of Texas) and in the House of Representatives by Jim Leach (R-Iowa) in 1999. The bills were passed by a Republican majority, basically following ">> party lines <" by a 54-44 vote in the Senate and by a (barely) bi-partisian 343-86 vote in the House of Representatives. Democrats were against it after the Senate Democrats spoke up. While I agree with you up to a point, I have to say it was the Republicans who are at the forefront of deregulation - something Alan Greenspan called a "huge mistake". Phil Gramm is the HUGE-EST Mistake EVER in the Senate. And you are welcome, too!

  • posted at 10:03 am on Fri, Sep 11, 2009.


    By the way, wasn't there government regulation and oversight committees watching Madoff? And these are the people you want to put in charge to of cutting the waste in healthcare costs?

  • posted at 10:01 am on Fri, Sep 11, 2009.


    Well, jb, you need to go back to the overturn of the Glass/Steagall Act. It was a bipartisan overturn that put the wheels in place for the financial meltdown. The Republicans wanted to drop the barriers between Wall St. and the banks, and thd Democrats wanted to give loans to the unqualified. It all happened before Bush 43 was president. And the Senate voted Clinton out of the loop with a 91 vote passage. You're welcome for making you smarter.

  • posted at 8:52 am on Fri, Sep 11, 2009.


    Well Cogito, you need to do some reading. The funds for all those creditless- people were made available by SEC Chairmen Harvey L. Pitt and William Donaldson. Both of them resigned in disgrace. Donaldson is the one who relaxed the accounting rules. While he pretended to force disclosure in accounting, Lehman Brothers, AIG and Bernie Madoff were busy robbing us all blind.

  • posted at 3:48 am on Fri, Sep 11, 2009.


    Jbhiker, the previous administration tried to stop the meltdown caused by sub prime lending, but was stopped by those on the left like Barney Frank and Maxine Waters. Watch this video. It's bizarre, buy Youtube has removed it from US availability. It's only available through their Canadian link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM&NR=1 It was from 2001

  • posted at 3:15 am on Fri, Sep 11, 2009.


    Well, if we all want to get steamed up about this...its just the tip of the iceberg. The tales of misappropriation for U.S. Military projects and boondoggle weapons systems are legendary. As for private industry- its often the same. I've seen untold monies wasted on office moves and decorations, excess inventory, projects that sputter out. And look at when private business and government join- as in the bank bail-outs, where a trillion taxpoayer dollars virtually vanished into thin air (but likely into the pockets of the elite of the financial elite). Meanwhile, the very richly paid UC Reagents plan to up tuition at UC by over 30%, and surcharge Engineering and Business students (read: the future of American industry) extra....while millions and million are blithely spent on their sports stadiums & facilities. .....Misplaced priorities?????

  • posted at 3:04 am on Fri, Sep 11, 2009.


    Max and Steve, it may not have occurred to you that the Marin County Agency that asked for the money was the person(s) responsible for the primary waste. Again, it was the previous administration that failed to audit, giving us the worst financial disaster since the Great Depression.

  • posted at 2:29 am on Fri, Sep 11, 2009.


    And a few of you pinheads want this bunch in complete control of your health care needs ? Maybe your medical waste can be thrown in a "solar" trash can.

  • posted at 1:37 am on Fri, Sep 11, 2009.


    "The guidance from Sacramento is not always clear on what we're suppose to do." Is anyone really shocked at this statement, can you just imagine what's going to happen when we receive our portion of the $787 billion dollar stimuli money. Stand clear, feeding time, like hogs to a trough.



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