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Posted: Monday, April 16, 2012 4:17 pm | Updated: 10:48 am, Wed Jan 30, 2013.

Father Michael Kelly, who was removed as pastor of St. Joachim’s Catholic Church in Lockeford after a jury found him liable of childhood sexual assault, has flown to his native Ireland for what Kelly describes as needed medical treatment.

Kelly, 62, wrote a letter dated Sunday to Stockton Diocese Bishop Stephen Blaire, saying that he was already in Ireland. Blaire said in a news release that he was stunned when he saw Kelly’s letter Monday afternoon.

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48 comments:

  • Josh Morgan posted at 1:46 pm on Mon, Apr 23, 2012.

    Josh Morgan Posts: 533

    Darrell, when did you get to be so sensitive? You and I have agreed and disagreed in the past and I've treated you with the utmost respect. Why would I change now? Come on.....you're better than that!

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 12:21 am on Mon, Apr 23, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    i did not know you were going on vacation Steve... have a good trip.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 12:19 am on Mon, Apr 23, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Josh... what does that have to do with my post... the settleman has nothing to do with any report...
    You had me fooled Josh... I thought you were attempting to have honest dialogue.
    My mistake.

     
  • Josh Morgan posted at 10:56 am on Fri, Apr 20, 2012.

    Josh Morgan Posts: 533

    DB: If such a report exists, there would not have been a trial but a settlement in my opinion.

    Catholic Church just settled with the plaintiff - $3.75 million.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 12:33 am on Fri, Apr 20, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Steve, everything i read stated just the opposite... can you please post a link that substantiates your post. It fly's in the face of common sense... If such a report exists, there would not have been a trial but a settlement in my opinion.

    SNAP who has published every known evidence did not publish any kind of report that you indicated and it was not in the trial... where are you getting your information... or was this wishful thinking on your part?

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 3:46 pm on Thu, Apr 19, 2012.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2467

    Bob, are you aware that the Church's own doctors reported that Kelly had "pedophiliac tendencies" more than a decade ago?

     
  • Bob Leonard posted at 10:24 am on Thu, Apr 19, 2012.

    Bob Leonard Posts: 4

    Steve, your question is so sophomoric and lame it almost doesn't even warrant a response. But in the interest of attempting to cast yet another light on how utterly ridiculous all “you people” are behaving, let me say this:

    1) I believe the last name of the criminally-convicted-based-on-actual-evidence-and-even-confessed-to-the-crimes priest to whom you are referring is "O’Grady."
    2) More importantly, it doesn’t matter what we believe or think about ANY other priest/person/dog/hamster/robot/ghost/vampire who is not Father Kelly. We are evaluating Father Kelly’s case based on its own merits and that alone. Which is exactly the opposite of what “you people” are doing. You are allowing the actions of other sick men in Father Kelly’s profession to act as direct evidence of Father Kelly’s guilt.

    The fact that none of you can understand or even acknowledge the 2nd one really makes me believe posting on here is a complete waste of my time. I feel like I’m trying to convince a group of dogs that they don’t like leftovers – it’s just not gonna happen.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 9:44 pm on Wed, Apr 18, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Steve, I do not think you are curious at all. That you even ask the question shows that you are simply attempting to agitate and distort what is happening.

    There is no comparison between the two men... one is a pedophile... the other is not.
    I know Mike Kelly is a Catholic priest, but that does not mean he is guilty...

    My question to you is why did you say that you think the jury did a good job, yet took two hours to briefly consider the days of testimony from expert witnesses. At best, the jury did not do their job.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 9:36 pm on Wed, Apr 18, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Bob Leonard stated...I'm more than a little uneasy about living in a world where someone can say they are all of a sudden aware of a memory of me doing something criminal 25 years ago that I didn't do, but that alone is somehow enough to find me liable in civil or criminal court.

    Bob.. you hit the nail on the head. I would have stated it a little differently however.

    I think it is horrifying and bizarre that these cases make it to court. Why do they? Because people who write the legislation are cowardly in my opinion. They write the laws under pressure from trial lawyers and advocates who makes billions of dollars in their greed. It is not reasonable to convict anyone without a shred of evidence... one of the reasons statute of limitation laws are there is to protect people from false accusers. This is not justice in any way, shape or form.

    Priests are on the line now... whose next. The education industry and teachers in my opinion better watch out. If you coach kids in sports and have had celebrations in your home... how are you going to prove that you did not do something 20 years ago...

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 6:22 pm on Wed, Apr 18, 2012.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2467

    I am curious. Do you people also believe that Father Grady is innocent?

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 6:11 pm on Wed, Apr 18, 2012.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2467

    Hopefully, the Irish authorities will warn the locals that a dangerous pedophile is in the area.

     
  • Bob Leonard posted at 10:11 am on Wed, Apr 18, 2012.

    Bob Leonard Posts: 4

    Darrell: Can't say I have an answer for you on the jury selection. Definitely a fair question though.

    I was about to say I can't believe how quickly people jump onto the "fled to Ireland" narrative as if it is an indication of guilt. Then I quickly remembered how gleefully ignorant and uninformed the majority of my fellow citizens allow themselves to be (sorry but it's true). The man stayed here for 4 and a half years trying to clear his name. The trial isn't even about him anymore - it's about getting money from the church (actually, I would contend it's been about that all along). So now that he's been found liable based on stereotypes and repressed memories and his life's work has been destroyed, what more was there left for him to do?

    Oh but it's these other allegations he's afraid of right? Allegations made under conspicuously suspicious circumstances involving the plaintiff's attorneys. People, there is a huge pinata of cash that is about to break open - no one can deny that is strong motivation to suddenly "remember" something about Father Kelly.

    I am all for arresting, prosecuting, and convicting actual pedophiles of any and all occupations. But this trial and the verdict has simply not been fair or consistent with our system of justice. I'm more than a little uneasy about living in a world where someone can say they are all of a sudden aware of a memory of me doing something criminal 25 years ago that I didn't do, but that alone is somehow enough to find me liable in civil or criminal court. Isn't it abundantly clear that the already relaxed civil burden of proof was further lessened either consciously or unconsciously in the minds of the jury based on Father Kelly being a Catholic priest?

    Ms. Clark continues to make my point for me. What does she do in response to my comments? She adds more links to news stories that report no new facts or evidence of Father Kelly's guilt or innocence. And then she adds yet another general comment railing against Catholic priests in this country. For the last time, just because there have been many cases of Catholic priests being found guilty of abuse, THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT ANY CATHOLIC PRIEST WHO HAS ALLEGATIONS BROUGHT AGAINST HIM IS AUTOMATICALLY GUILTY!! Is it really that hard to understand?

    I don't believe Father Kelly is guilty of anything, but that is actually beside the point and my personal opinion really doesn't matter. I find that the difference between myself and SNAP representatives/surrogates is this: Let's say that Father Kelly all of a sudden admitted to wrong-doing. I would have nothing to apologize or feel bad for. I would still be able to stand by every comment I've made here or elsewhere as every comment has been rooted in logic and an evaluation of the facts as presented. Now, on the other hand, let's say the plaintiff all of a sudden admitted to making the whole thing up. SNAP surrogates would have to feel awful(if that's possible) about spear-heading a witch hunt against an innocent man based on strongly rooted prejudices and a startling lack of actual evidence.

    The stubborn, mob mentality so brazenly showcased by SNAP representatives is truly disturbing.

     
  • Arabella Clark posted at 7:52 am on Wed, Apr 18, 2012.

    Arabella Posts: 129

    Here's a story about Kelly fleeing to Ireland in an Irish newspaper, the Journal.

    http://www.thejournal.ie/irish-priest-returns-home-in-middle-of-us-sexual-abuse-trial-421634-Apr2012/?new_comment=1#comment-357593

     
  • Arabella Clark posted at 7:33 am on Wed, Apr 18, 2012.

    Arabella Posts: 129

    Um, no. There is NOT bigotry towards priests in this country. It's just that priests have been molesting children for decades and that they the Church not only failed to put a stop to it, but shuffled priests from parish to parish. There was no concern for the rights of children.

    Why do you think Cardinal Law was forced to step down in Boston? Because people from around the country - CATHOLICS included, were outraged that he had covered for serial pedophiles like John Geoghan (look him up- eventually murdered in prison)

    Catholics and non Catholics around the world are outraged at the failure of the Church to protect the children. Why don't you read about the efforts of the Catholic Church in Ireland and Belgium to atone to what they did for victims of priests?

    Get out of your own little world and read up on what is going on in this issue in this country, Canada, Ireland, Belgium France and many other countries. This has nothing to do with bigotry against Catholics.

     
  • Arabella Clark posted at 6:57 am on Wed, Apr 18, 2012.

    Arabella Posts: 129

    Who exactly are these "You people" you are referring to? You do realize that Kelly is just one of thousands of priests in the United States in the last ten years to have been found civilly liable, do you not? Are you also aware that police departments around the country CONTACT civil lawyers who win these cases, for names of victims and for assistance in criminal cases?

    You're way, way too myopic here. Start educating yourself as to how this works. But frankly, I don't think the Catholic church would care for your vicious attitude towards others here who do not agree with you . Not in keeping with Christian teachings

     
  • Arabella Clark posted at 6:52 am on Wed, Apr 18, 2012.

    Arabella Posts: 129

    Oh, for pete's sake, you are acting as if he is the first priest in the United States to lose a molestation civil suit. Hundreds, if not thousands of priests have been found liable for molestation in civil suits and even criminal suits. All of them were under stress (but not as much as their victims, that's for sure.) But they didn't flee. They faced the music.

    Additionally, some of the priests who have been criminally and/or civilly convicted were MUCH SICKER AND OLDER than the 62 year old Kelly. And they went to prison and the church paid out their settlements.

    Heck, the Boston Suffolk District Attorney's office has in recent years even prosecuted ailing priests in their 80s who molested boys in the 1940s.

    Stop enabling the guy.

     
  • Arabella Clark posted at 6:48 am on Wed, Apr 18, 2012.

    Arabella Posts: 129

    He left because this week, several more victims went to the Calaveras County Sheriff's Department according to the sheriff's spokesperson.

    Hmm, this is unfolding just like the Dr. William Ayres case in San Mateo. Victim files civil suit against Ayres; press writes about it; new victims come forward; San Mateo police start a criminal investigation which led to ayres' arres.

     
  • Arabella Clark posted at 6:45 am on Wed, Apr 18, 2012.

    Arabella Posts: 129

    From the Modesto Bee, April 17, 2012:

    Sgt. Chris Hewitt, spokesman for the Calaveras County Sheriff's Department, said Tuesday that his agency continues to investigate Kelly.
    The investigation was triggered by an altar boy who reported being abused by Kelly when Kelly worked at St. Andrew's Catholic Church in San Andreas.

    Hewitt said the investigation remains open because detectives have identified more alleged victims and need to conduct further interviews.

    Read more here: http://www.modbee.com/2012/04/17/2162260/priests-flight-to-ireland-halts.html#storylink=omni_popular#storylink=cpy

    _____

    Calaveras County Sheriff's Department says, "the investigation remains open because detectives have identified more alleged victims and need to conduct further interviews.

    "identified MORE ALLEGED VICTIMS."

    You can bet that's why Kelly hightailed it over to Ireland. What an absolute coward. At least other priests in this country in both civil and criminal trials stick around and face the music.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:32 pm on Tue, Apr 17, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    To Bob Leonard and Ron Brown...

    How refreshing to read posts where thought, reason, and actual facts are discussed and articulated in a fair minded way.

    Thank you both and I hope we hear more from you two.

    Bob... question for you. Do you have knowledge of the jury selection process in this case that resulted in a jury that could deliberate a complicated case, with days of complex expert testimony, in only two hours ( including water breaks).

    To me, it is inexplicable.

     
  • Ben Sanacore posted at 7:25 pm on Tue, Apr 17, 2012.

    Ben Sanacore Posts: 104

    During the Salem Witch Trials, some people fled rather than be subject to the kangaroo court they set-up to persecute people. I doubt Fr. Kelly will return, but who knows. There is bigotry, as demonstrated by the unbelievable jury verdict, toward Catholic priests that I now seriously doubt any priest could get a fair trial in the U.S. under such baseless allegations and standards of liability that are further aggravated by hysterical media attention and SNAP propaganda. Fr. Kelly may have made the best decision given his detractors' lynch mob mentality, the Salem Witch Trial style tactics, and the McCarthy style tactics he has endured to the serious detriment of his health.

     
  • Bob Leonard posted at 5:20 pm on Tue, Apr 17, 2012.

    Bob Leonard Posts: 4

    Ms. Clark: Explain to me how random comments from readers of the LA Times blog with no specific knowledge of the trial helps your cause or makes Father Kelly more likely to be guilty of wrong-doing? The catholic priest-as-pedophile is a running punch-line in this country. I would expect nothing different from people who read a sensationalistic headline and a bare-bones story of this nature.

    The headline is juicy to be sure, I too wouldn't be surprised if this story started making national news, fodder for the Bill O'Reilly's of the world. You'll hear about the "priest who fled the country," as that makes for an exciting 45 second story to keep people glued to their TVs. But what you won't hear are the specifics of the case, including the severe lack of evidence. How a man was held liable for something based on stereotypes and fake repressed memories and NOTHING more.

    This like so many of your comments and those by SNAP has NOTHING to do with this trial. You all speak in generalizations, hearsay and unsubstantiated percentages. You reference other allegations or investigations as though they are convictions.

    I know all about the case, so please don't respond to me unless you have a legitimate response to my above query or something SPECIFIC from this case to reference/dispute/cite. Actually, don't respond to me at all. I've been reading these boards long enough to know that as it relates to this case, nothing substantive, fair or intellectually honest has ever been written on this or any message board by SNAP representatives/surrogates.


     
  • Arabella Clark posted at 2:41 pm on Tue, Apr 17, 2012.

    Arabella Posts: 129

    Seriously, Ms. Parigoris:

    Have you ever stopped to think that the five or so victims of Kelly who have come forward- none of whom know each other- could all be making this up? Did you ever stop to consider that some have gone to the police first and have not filed a civil suit? Do you actually know what it is like for a victim to be deposed in a civil suit? It's no cakewalk... Believe me, victims who are lying are weeded out quickly.

    Talk to national sex abuse and law enforcment groups. They will tell you that it is extremely rare that a male will go to the police to make up a false story about being abused. What would be the advantage for him in a criminal case to do that?

     
  • Arabella Clark posted at 2:37 pm on Tue, Apr 17, 2012.

    Arabella Posts: 129

    Mr. Pierre: Here is what America thinks of Michael Kelly:

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2012/04/stockton-priest-flees-country-amid-sex-accusations.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+lanowblog+(L.A.+Now)

     
  • Arabella Clark posted at 2:33 pm on Tue, Apr 17, 2012.

    Arabella Posts: 129

    Give it a rest, Mr. Pierre. Read the scornful and disgusted comments from people about Kelly fleeing the US on the LA Times story, up today.

    This story is going national and believe me, the American public is not going to be siding with Kelly.


     
  • Posey Mattea posted at 9:57 am on Tue, Apr 17, 2012.

    chatty95321 Posts: 15

    If you are so knowledgable, why weren't you on the stand testifying for the plantiff. You are another attention seeking amateur sleuth. He does have GI problems and has always had them. You people have ruined a good man and seem to take delight in that.

     
  • Dave Pierre posted at 9:29 am on Tue, Apr 17, 2012.

    DPierre Posts: 18

    Here is what people need to know about the vicious and mean-spirited attorney John Manly:

    http://www.themediareport.com/hot-topics/attorney-john-c-manly/

    ----

     
  • Ronald Brown posted at 8:50 am on Tue, Apr 17, 2012.

    gipper Posts: 116

    Why did Kelly leave? He is no longer able to carry on priestly duties, his personal reputation has been sullied, and he has no immediate family in the United States. I think if we put ourselves in his shoes we would have probably done the same thing.

    Since many people on both sides of this case are professionals in your chosen field, imagine if someone made an accusation (or accusations) against you that was at best nebulous. Next, imagine you were culpable after a scanty look and discussion at information shared on both sides. I think ALL people would feel down and despondent.

    Charges of sexual assault happen across all religious traditions and public life, and they are not just in the Catholic Church like SNAP and its well fund attorneys would like the public to believe. For example, Senator Scott Brown (a Protestant) of Massachusetts spoke about being sexually assaulted as a teenager while at a church camp. He has confronted the counselor who assaulted him, and he has spoken to his daughters openly about it encouraging them to talk to an adult if an incident like this happens. Does SNAP ever talk about sexual abuse in other religious faiths?

    I think all assault and rape cases should be looked at and examined as is written under the law. I reiterate what I have stated before that I find it puzzing that cases from Calaveras are just coming forth when the civil trial began. If these victims remembered clearly what happened, I presume that they would have spoken up sooner about the possible charges. In addition, the cases have been looked at since the Fall by the Calaveras police. There is no credible evidence that would bring about a court case. I am sure there "repressed' memories are returning as they possibly stand to gain from the Diocese's coffers. Has this been stated by those who believe the defendant is guilty?

    Continuing on, since opponents of Father Kelly in this chat area and otherwise want to link him with Father O'Grady there are vast diferences between them. With O'Grady there were several cases of abuse that stood out at many of the respective parishes he was sent to. As I stated before, there have been NO other cases that have come forth in this time period where the plaintiff alleges the incident occurred (late 1970's-mid 1980's). Does SNAP or people who are opposed to him discuss this?

    While Manly and his team believe that the Diocese of Stockton was asleep at the wheel, all "roughhousing" incidents were looked at and vetted. The results were discussed at trial as NO person stated the actions taken by Father Kelly were anyway sexual. Does SNAP discuss this?

    Moreover, I again have trouble how a jury can come to a decision so quickly. On the stand, you have a "expert" psychologist on repressed memory, two board trained psychiatrists with MD's from Yale and John Hopkins who offer vastly different views of the plaintiff's mental state and the declination of the plaintiff to take a polygraph test (which the defense would have paid for). The two board trained psychiatrists were on the stand for well over two days. I have served on a civil jury, and you are instructed to NOT discuss the case with fellow jurors until the case is complete. With the mountain of testimony that I just described, I find it hard to discuss ALL the evidence rationally and make a verdict in two hours without being swayed by emotion. Do those who are against Kelly agree that it would take more than two hours to discuss all this expert testimony before making a rational decision?

    Tim Lennon (who is on this blog and attended the entire case) stated that the trial turned largely because of the emotional testimony of the plaintiff and their ability to accept the "expert" witness testimony on repressed memory.

    Since those of you that find Kelly guilty believe a "sociopath" like Kelly, could pass a polygraph test why did Manly not let his client take this test? Kelly took this test TWICE and passed BOTH times. If Manly were to debunk polygraphs, he would have allowed his client to take it. After all, if the plaintiff AND Kelly both passed he would have had an argument that polygraphs were ineffective. I think Mr. Manly knew that evidence would come out during the test that might be detrimental to his client and takeway the effects of his emotional testimony. For example, the plaintiff graphically remembers the type of acts and where they occurred. But the plaintiff gave different answers to when they occurred during depostion and in the trial. However, our "expert" on repressed memory states that details on when certain incidents occur should not be taken at face value. I can see Manly wanted the "expert" on repressed memory rather than a polygraph test in building his client's case.

    As for the plaintiff, his "repressed" memories will disappear once he gets his settlement from the Diocese of Stockton. For him and those just starting to file claims, it is better than playing the lottery.


     
  • Tim Lennon posted at 7:04 am on Tue, Apr 17, 2012.

    Tim Lennon Posts: 45

    When a ten year old child is raped and brutalized, yes, I seek I am focused on helping for the victim and seeking severe consequence for the rapist. No objectivity there. I hold no sympathy for rapists. Neither do I have sympathy or understanding for those who wish to excuse a rapist.
    There is no excuse for an adult man to rape anyone, especially a small child. My passion for the protection of children is true and is focused.
    Tim Lennon
    Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests www.snapnetwork.org

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 6:41 am on Tue, Apr 17, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Piscitelli stated...He is a criminal now—legally.

    Interesting... Mr Piscitelli is admitting that he knew consciously that father Kelly was never a criminal... all this time, SNAP was playing the public. They were busy attacking and distorting reality while all the time knowing, Kelly was no criminal.
    Does anyone remember McCarthyism? SNAP and the wealthy lawyers they work with are using fear, intimidation and hysteria to get what they want. I personally have been called a pedophile by two SNAP representatives simply because of my support for justice as I see it and because I happen to be I be in Thailand. There is nothing these people wouldn't do to get the money they are looking for in my opinion...No justice here I'm afraid.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 2:12 am on Tue, Apr 17, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Piscitelli stated...Let this be a good lesson to all the sheeple


    Yes of course... Mr Piscitelli is tending to all his sheep to make certain they have a clear story to tell all they come in contact with... good Job Mr Miscitelli, I'm sure all those sheeple you were referring to will follow your message to the letter.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 2:06 am on Tue, Apr 17, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Piscitelli stated....Bishop allowed him to flee intentionally

    This man appears to have inside information consistently. Now he knows for absolute fact that the Bishop allowed him to flee intentionally... I suggest you contact the FBI and share this proof you have.

    I have to say that I feel pity for Mr. Piscitelli. So angry and bitter is his rant than one might think his thinking is effected. Have faith ... I am sure that the millions upon millions are coming through soon. Relief at last. Nothing brings satisfaction, happiness and a sense of justice as "cold" hard cash at the expense of another.

     
  • Joey Piscitelli posted at 11:25 pm on Mon, Apr 16, 2012.

    Joey piscitelli Posts: 23

    Fr. kelly was supposed to testify tomorrow under a court ordered legal subpeoana. He broke the law willingly. Don't make excuses. This is typical behavior for a sociopath. If he was innocent he would have stuck up for his truth. He is a criminal now--legally.
    No one made him leave, the court didn't say go as you please, and-- he left intentionally. And how did the Bishop get his "letter"? The Bishop allowed him to flee intentionally, like many other bishops do for other guilty perps, and now he lies to the public and says he turned kelly in to the police . When? After he gave Kelly his ticket to Ireland? Why didn't the Bishop stop him?
    Kelly got what he deserved, a guilty verdict, and now he proves to the world that he has criminal behavior- AND MAKES EXCUSES FOR IT.
    He jumped his subpeona duty- and cries that he has a "tummy -ache".
    This is a narcissist, who cares only about himself, has no regard for his DUTY to the court, has no remorse for the victim, and his letter proves it.
    "I feel sorry for myself, so I'm going to break the law, and dodge punishment for raping a ten year old, and go crying to my mommy." "If Oliver O'Grady can do it, well so can I".
    Let this be a good lesson to all the sheeple who fell for his innocent act, this man has the conscience of a block of wood. He pulled the wool over your eyes, fooled you, and completed the con.His mommy may turn a blind eye to the unconscionable, narcissist, lying, rapist, but hopefully the law won't. What a disgrace.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 9:43 pm on Mon, Apr 16, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Tim stated... There is no excuse


    Interesting how some people's views are so narrow and single focused, they render themselves incapable of objectivity.

     
  • Tim Lennon posted at 9:21 pm on Mon, Apr 16, 2012.

    Tim Lennon Posts: 45

    Kelly was due to testify this week--the trial did not finish. Either he was a coward to face his accusor or he was afraid his forgetfulness, equivication and denial would further expose his liablity in sexually assaulting a child.

    There is no excuse. No amount of rationalization and piled on excuses from the apologists can cover the injury Kelly inflicted on many children of the area.

     
  • Ben Sanacore posted at 8:53 pm on Mon, Apr 16, 2012.

    Ben Sanacore Posts: 104

    I am not at all surprised Fr. Kelly left for Ireland. Not knowing it would be this soon, I predicted it to my family. What was there left for Fr. Kelly to do here? His ministry was taken from him. He faced further relentless derision and malice from his detractors. His life has been effectively destroyed. I have no doubt he is physically ill and is suffering from severe mental stress. This verdict could surely send someone over the edge. Every person has his or her breaking point, and he has been tormented and tortured for years over nothing more than unsubstantiated allegations. Is it any wonder he wanted to get far away and be close to his family? As for SNAP and its supporters, they sure know how to kick a man when he's down. Fr. Kelly's departure doesn't change the current facts of the case. Fr. Kelly was held liable under an extraordinary lack of evidence. At this point, the Calaveras County investigation hasn't produced anything more than allegations. One thing is certain, SNAP and its operatives will milk it for every last penny they can get. I only hope that Fr. Kelly will return for an appeal when he is well, but those prospects may now be dimming as a result of the terrible damage that has been done to him.

     
  • Nancy Sloan posted at 8:51 pm on Mon, Apr 16, 2012.

    N SLOAN Posts: 24

    Kim Parigoris writes 'this man's life has been ruined. There is no way he would have ever been found not guilty in this day and age when it is just so fashionable to hate anything good and decent.." REALLY?? HIS life has been ruined??? Should we open the door to the prisons because of those poor ruined lifes?

    Im sorry this is our system. I dont think its fair that when as a child you are raped and sodomied and orally copulated you are told you only have until ____age to come forward to press charges. THAT is messed up. THAT isnt right.
    BEING brutally, physically, emotionally and SPIRITUALLY yep pretty much can be said...makes life challenging from that point on...but we are told to COWBOY UP and move on...get over it. SO yes I hear about ruined lifes.

    However all you people mincing words.He was found liable. There are other new victims that are coming forward.

    I just keep thinking of how many of you were defenders of O;grady and others like him. WHEN do you stand up for the victims? MATTHEW 18:6

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:52 pm on Mon, Apr 16, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Ms Sloan stated...WOW the sheeple are awfully quiet tonight...

    Really?... In viewing this thread, I think they are making their feelings known quite well on this thread... the spin on this thread must be making them a little dizzy.

    Only S Norman appears to be balanced and objective.

     
  • Nancy Sloan posted at 7:44 pm on Mon, Apr 16, 2012.

    N SLOAN Posts: 24

    Alex Kennedy wrote, "Ireland? How cliché"

    I wonder if he plans to meet with O'Grady while in Ireland.

    Maybe he wants to be cell mates??? Since OG is in the slammer. Its so funny that he claims health etc...CLEARLY he knew the fall out of his actions. CLEARLY he should know what the diocese will suffer as a result. The calaveres Sherrifs should move up the investigation process! 2 other victims at least werent enough to take his passport?? You had years of notice on OG and now Kelly...come on boys.

    Oh wait I know Kelly will say it was because of his lack of maturity that he didnt know....like you shouldnt tickle/molest or rape a child. SILLY IMMATURITY ISSUES! AURGH

     
  • Kim Parigoris posted at 7:42 pm on Mon, Apr 16, 2012.

    Kim Parigoris Posts: 470

    Father Kelly was the victim of a modern day witchhunt and I hope you are all correct with your "opinions" about his guilt because this man's life has been ruined. There is no way he would have ever been found not guilty in this day and age when it is just so fashionable to hate anything good and decent..

     
  • Nancy Sloan posted at 7:36 pm on Mon, Apr 16, 2012.

    N SLOAN Posts: 24

    WOW the sheeple are awfully quiet tonight! DO YOU FINALLY GET IT?
    Would Jesus run away ? Is this how he leads by example? He knows of the allegations of others that have come out. As is typical, victims that are within the statute of limitation have courage to come forward when they see stories of other SURVIVORS paving the way. It is so ignorant to think a person who has been abused wants to come forward for financial gain. Justice and vindication, support, proper placement of responsibility, being the hero to other victims by helping to stop the monster with exposure...so many other things come to mind. I do not jump to the conclusion of his supporters and say...oh I bet that person wants thier life tore into..scabs ripped off hourly, humilation,judgements, being called names, and so much so they can get thier counseling or medication etc paid for for the rest of thier life. That they can try to get compesated as the law allows for what was stolen New victims have come forward... THE VICTIM in this case is brave and Im proud of his strength.
    I expect all of you to pack the court house tomorrow to apologise to the victim.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:32 pm on Mon, Apr 16, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Piscitelli stated...Well that's exactly what you would expect from a guilty pedophile...

    Well, its exactly what I would expect as well... but, as a more objective person, I would not limit the possibilities to one choice. Mr Piscitelli's conclusion is one reasonable possibility. Another reasonable possibility is that this man sees no possibility of proving his innocence and being that is health is a concern, its possible in anticipation of dying and no hope of "JUSTICE" from his perspective, left to die in peace. Again, there are many possibilities and I am just speculating... just as others on this thread.

     
  • Arabella Clark posted at 5:33 pm on Mon, Apr 16, 2012.

    Arabella Posts: 129

    Well, O'grady is serving three years in prison for possession of child pornograpy right now.

    Since when did Ireland have better "medical treatment" than the US?

    Seems to me that the reason Kelly fled because he is terrified of the current Sheriff's investigation into the boy he assaulted at St. Andrew's in San Andreas in the early 2000's.

    What a coward. His behavior is so predictable.

    And bear in mind, that in recent years, whenever the church sent him off to deal with his "behavioral" tendencies, he told his parishioners that he was being treated for ulcers. Right... taking a six month leave to have his ulcers taken care of?

     
  • Kim Lee posted at 4:59 pm on Mon, Apr 16, 2012.

    Kim Lee Posts: 1798

    Alex Kennedy wrote, "Ireland? How cliché"

    I wonder if he plans to meet with O'Grady while in Ireland.

     
  • Kim Lee posted at 4:57 pm on Mon, Apr 16, 2012.

    Kim Lee Posts: 1798

    I'm not surprised. Can Michael Kelly legally flee the country right now?

     
  • Joey Piscitelli posted at 4:50 pm on Mon, Apr 16, 2012.

    Joey piscitelli Posts: 23

    Well that's exactly what you would expect from a guilty pedophile. He's supposed to appear in court, and he bolts out of the country. And the Bishop didn't know it.
    The church will probably give him a new job with lids in Ireland.
    What a disgrace. And his goupies and fans here were all saying what a saint he was.
    Now he's left because other allegations were coming forward.
    Now that he's jumped his subpoena, a warrant will be coming forward, and his groupies will say that it wasn't kellys fault he broke the law - AGAIN.
    How typical.

     
  • Bob Smith posted at 4:50 pm on Mon, Apr 16, 2012.

    Bob Smith Posts: 128

    Dated Sunday, received on Monday. Ireland must have excellent mail service.

     
  • Tim Lennon posted at 4:49 pm on Mon, Apr 16, 2012.

    Tim Lennon Posts: 45

    Kelly fled.
    He faced a criminal investigation of his vicious assault on another child in Calavaras County. He was worried that he would be arrested.

     
  • Alex Kennedy posted at 4:42 pm on Mon, Apr 16, 2012.

    Alex Posts: 215

    Ireland? How cliché

     
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