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• Darrell Baumbach posted at 11:10 am on Sat, Jun 11, 2011.

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  Ms Bobin... thank you for your last post...
  You made great points and stated them with respect and kindness. Hope to read more posts from you if made like this... have a good day!

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• Joanne Bobin posted at 6:38 pm on Fri, Jun 10, 2011.

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  HA, HA, Mr. Baumbach. You are probably correct in your last statement because I am a believer in exposing myself and kids to the natural environment in order to build up immunities. My kids do not have allergies and have had minimal illnesses in their 21+ years compared to those I know who wash everything down with bleach at the first sneeze.

  I agree with you that not every behavior needs to be legislated and many "mandates" are probably unconstitutional, i.e., seat belt laws. But public health is one thing on which I cannot compromise. If you contract tuberculosis, should you be quaranteened? HIV, Hep A, B, C, D, and E? (Actually, you are taking a tremendous risk with your SE Asian street vendors). If you have ever seen anyone die from any of those diseases, you would say yes. My aunt died in 1963 from tuberculosis and it was not pretty. Death from cancer pales in comparison.

  Who determines which mandates are valid and which are simply attempts to control behavior? I don't know. On that point I agree with you.

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• Darrell Baumbach posted at 2:53 pm on Fri, Jun 10, 2011.

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  Ms Bobin stated...Those pesky state "Mandates" are there for a reason..

  Of course Ms Bobin.. there always are reasons... and there are always people like you that must see to it that what they think is a good reason is set in stone so everybody must do as they think... there are 1000's upon 1000's of mandates that tell us how others must behave... When the state and federal government establishes the mandates, local communities lose it's freedom to choose... as far as being upset that a dog licked something... not a bit... after what I became accustomed to in Thailand, that would not bother me a bit... now if you touched it... that would be a different story.

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• Jackson Scott posted at 12:41 pm on Fri, Jun 10, 2011.

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  My wife was with her girlfriends last night at the Dancing Fox when one woman in her early 30's casually entered thru the main door with her dog on a leash. She proceeded to walk around looking for a table and then headed out the other door. A guy at a neighboring table was heard saying, "Who does she think she is bringing her dog in here while we are eating dinner?" Its a good think I wasnt there.

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• Joanne Bobin posted at 11:58 am on Fri, Jun 10, 2011.

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  Most people wouldn't think about taking their pets to the SUPERmarket (except those annoying people with tiny dogs who think it's cute to hide them in their over-sized purses) - why would they think a FARMER's Market is any different?

  Those pesky state "Mandates" are there for a reason. Just as people are often prone not to control their kids' behavior in stores, so pet owners are not always watching their dogs. I'm sure you would be upset, Mr. Baumbach, to discover you had eaten food previously licked by a dog or to step in a foul smelling pile on the street.

  Since COL is not looking out for you, at least the state has thought about it.

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• Doug Chaney posted at 9:48 am on Fri, Jun 10, 2011.

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  These are public city streets and sidewalks. Unless the three amigos pass an ordinance banning dogs from livable,lovable Lodi downtown, there is no law prohibiting residents from taking their pets with them. I don't bring my dog either, out of respect for others, and there are probably many others that feel just the opposite. Maybe the Farmers' Market should be moved to an inside venue at the Grape festival grounds. therefore prohibiting any pets from the food vending areas.

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• Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:24 am on Fri, Jun 10, 2011.

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  This is not the DLBP or city of Lodi’s doing,” said Jaime Watts, executive director of the DLBP. “This is the state health department.”
  State heath codes “MANDATES”

  The noose gets tighter and tighter... freedom is shrinking more and more.... much as a result of state and federal mandates... even though I agree with Jackson about dogs in public, that should come directly from a local ordinance, not a government mandate. I know this is a minor mandate...but collectively, it is overbearing. We are no longer a free people as a result of these mandate's shackles and control … we need rules and regulations of course... but these invasive excessive mandates have changed the character of America...

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• Jackson Scott posted at 4:32 pm on Thu, Jun 9, 2011.

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  Well, I'm about to head down to the Farmers Market. I love dogs. I have a dog. But I dont bring him to places where there are alot of people.

  Ms Watts needs to grow a backbone. Stop sugar coating it. It's against the law!

  I will tell everyone tonight that it was in the paper and it is against the law, and refer them to Ms Watts.

  I suggest everyone else do the same

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