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Greater religious involvement sought at Lodi prayer observance

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11 comments:

  • Alan Weinel posted at 5:18 pm on Fri, May 11, 2012.

    Alan Weinel Posts: 14

    Here is the PRACTICAL point: Each of us votes according to his own package of beliefs and values. This includes Christians. I cannot IMAGINE that Ms. Bobin would suggest that Christians do not have the right to vote for those candidates that support their views. THAT would be terrible. For Christians to advoicate for people who support their viewpoint is NO DIFFERENT than those who advocate for various secular opinions. Think about it.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 1:19 pm on Wed, May 9, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Ms Bobin stated...Really? What evidence to you have to support this? There are many, many liberal politicians who are men and women of faith.

    Sorry Ms Bobin... if you need me to provide you evidence of the extreme obvious, I think anything I could post would not be comprehended by you.

    Secular America has a nice comfortable strong hold in the democratic party. These secular people, many times atheists, have a very sharp ax to grind with religious god orientated organizations. I really do not care to educate you as to real world reality... please find out on your own.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:22 pm on Sun, May 6, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Baumbach stated: "many politicians on the left have made it their mission to help support those who wish to destroy the Christian churches and the religion their members have faith in."

    Really? What evidence to you have to support this? There are many, many liberal politicians who are men and women of faith.

    I see more politicians on the right who wish to create political and religious division by claiming that President Obama is either Muslim or by refusing to state that he is a Christian. Rather, most state: "If he says he is, then I guess he is."

    Your is completely irresponsible

     
  • Andy Crowder posted at 9:38 pm on Fri, May 4, 2012.

    Andy Crowder Posts: 245

    The flock was praying for "One Nation Under God", a Christian theocracy. What I'd like to know is, whose bearded sky god would be in charge? Pentecostal Jesus is not the same as Mormon Jesus. If these people actually got what they were praying for, a holy war would break out. It's an age old story. Shia vs. Sunni, Catholic vs. Protestant. Enshrine one person's idea of god in law, and the rest go ballistic.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 9:11 pm on Fri, May 4, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Ms Bobin stated...It is a travesty that a "national day of prayer," during which those with a belief in the power of prayer...

    I agree with Ms Bobin that it is unfortunate that a day of prayer should concern itself with politics in any way.

    Unfortunately many politicians on the left have made it their mission to help support those who wish to destroy the Christian churches and the religion their members have faith in. As a defensive measure, Christian churches, while under attack from the left, think it wise to respond. They should defend their right to freedom of religion from government. They are losing the battle. If they wish to effect what is happening, they need to get involved politically. They left is forcing religious people to take this action if they wish to keep their religious freedom alive.
    I think it wonderful that finally religious people have decided to take action and defend themselves from the attack the left is enthusiastically pursuing. Hopefully they will unify and fight back in one voice next November against Barack H Obama and the left who are attacking their very survival.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 7:23 pm on Fri, May 4, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    It is a travesty that a "national day of prayer," during which those with a belief in the power of prayer, used this as a political moment to further an agenda of infiltrating government with their niche agendas of creating a theocracy and opposing our republic which has declared in its constitution that "there shall be no establishment of religion."

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 6:12 pm on Fri, May 4, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mark Calladus posted at 11:25 am on Fri, May 4, 2012...Personally, I like giving blood on the National Day of Prayer. Doing so actually has an effect on reality.

    Of course the ultimate insult to someone who prays is to state that their prayers have no an effect on reality....

    On national prayer day, I did not pray as that is not something I do. However, in respect and admiration of people who do pray, I thank them for their time and effort. It does have an effect on many people's reality and even the ones like me who do not pray.

     
  • Andy Crowder posted at 4:20 pm on Fri, May 4, 2012.

    Andy Crowder Posts: 245

    On a positive note, sounds like the flock was painfully thin in relation to the number of pastors and churches represented.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 3:38 pm on Fri, May 4, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Shame on these religious leaders who want to violate our Constitution in order to establish a Christian theorcracy in the US.

    Shame, shame. I am embarrassed to be part of a community that wants to violate our Constitution.

     
  • Mark Calladus posted at 11:25 am on Fri, May 4, 2012.

    Calladus Posts: 1

    "Labor is the only prayer that Nature answers; it is the only prayer that deserves an answer — good, honest, noble work."
    ~ Col. Robert G. Ingersoll

    Personally, I like giving blood on the National Day of Prayer. Doing so actually has an effect on reality.

     
  • Manuel Martinez posted at 9:21 am on Fri, May 4, 2012.

    Manuel Martinez Posts: 641

    That's what the Day of Prayer is all about? Putting Christianity (lets face it, this is not a nondenominational ritual...) into government and schools and solicitation of the continued oppression of gender and sexual minorities?

    Who knew? I could have sworn someone on these boards told me it was merely a day of showing love for god...

     
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