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Pedophile priest Oliver O'Grady was volunteer in Dutch church

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Oliver O’Grady

Posted: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 12:00 am

The Dutch Catholic Church rejected criticism Monday for failing to check the background of a volunteer who served a seven-year prison sentence in Amador County for child abuse.

Defrocked Irish priest Oliver O'Grady did volunteer work for a church in Rotterdam for less than two years, and left the Netherlands in February before his identity became known.

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  • posted at 11:42 am on Wed, May 5, 2010.

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    Other Hollywood liberals going on record to support letting child rapist Polanski off the hook are Mike Nichols, Woddy Allen, Martin Scorcese, David Lynch, Harvey Weinstein, Natalie Portman, and Talia Swinton.

     
  • posted at 10:04 am on Wed, May 5, 2010.

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    Well, Lodian, then how do you explain all the Hollywood progressives speaking out in favor of Roman Polanski being let off the hook? He was convicted for drugging and raping a 13 year old girl. Whoppi said "I don't know what it was, but it wasn't rape-rape".

     
  • posted at 4:05 am on Wed, May 5, 2010.

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    Cogito wrote "If conservatives had their way with this monster, he'd be locked up in a cell for the rest of his life."I say... If good conservatives and progressives had their way with this monster, he'd be locked up in a cell for the rest of his life.You see, Cogito, there is plenty of blame to go around. And if you simply look in one place for the blame then you are just closing one eye.

     
  • posted at 2:06 am on Tue, May 4, 2010.

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    Lodian, I take full responsibility for following you and others away from my original point. The truth is, that in Amsterdam, one of the most progressive societies on earth, they allowed a known pedophile to be around their children. This is either laziness on their part, incompetence, or simply that they care more about the rights of a child molester than they do the welfare of their own innocent children. If conservatives had their way with this monster, he'd be locked up in a cell for the rest of his life.

     
  • posted at 5:59 pm on Mon, May 3, 2010.

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    Cogito: The fact remains that you came out of the gate here with your flip comment about progressives being to blame for the pedophile priest. My point is that pedophile priests and those that cover up their heinous acts cannot, and should not, be described as "progressives". That's simply ignorant. You are damning progressives for what this, and other priests, did to little children. I'd say you are letting an entire group of guilty people off the hook for these crimes by making such statements. Now that you see what I say is right, and you feel like a fool, you want to deflect as if you never started this line of dialog. Sorry, your cover up isn't going to fly.

     
  • posted at 5:49 pm on Mon, May 3, 2010.

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    Cogito: You're backpedaling. It's what you do when you've failed to prove your point. This is becoming quite a pattern with you.

     
  • posted at 4:16 pm on Mon, May 3, 2010.

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    Lodian, if you could ever keep from being so easily distracted, you'll notice that my initial entry was referring to the liberal mindset of those who reside in AMSTERDAM! The article is about a pedophile priest who got around children in AMSTERDAM! You know, those enlightened euroweenies. You quote statistics about conservative Christians in general, ignoring the fact that the argument was about Catholics. You really are a strange ranger.

     
  • posted at 3:15 pm on Mon, May 3, 2010.

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    skeptic: If the evidence proves (and I am talking in the court of law, not public opinion) that the current pope had some involvement then I would be supportive of legal action. The problem we will run into is international law, where did the pope do the illegal activity and which country has jurisdiction over him at the time of the criminal activity. And to what extent is he prosecutable? there is a ladder of guilt here from those that knew but kept silent, those that had the power and hid it to those that did it. In US laws we have conspiracy to commit crime laws (but not in reference to pedophilia), do the countries where he committed the actions?So whose court do you think the Pope is subject to, if charges are ever brought?

     
  • posted at 2:44 pm on Mon, May 3, 2010.

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    That sounds about right, skeptic.

     
  • posted at 12:14 pm on Mon, May 3, 2010.

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    wujek, how do you feel about the Pope's involvement? Some are calling for his arrest. There is a clear paper trail indicating that not only did he know about the raping of children, but he insisted in the incidence being handled in silence--victims were to be threatened with excommunication if they were not silent.

     
  • posted at 10:35 am on Mon, May 3, 2010.

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    I rarely agree with Lodian but in this case I do. The priests AND the ones who helped cover it up should be prosecuted, and that comes from a practicing Catholic. If it gives my Church a black-eye I don't care, justice MUST be done for the victims not for the image of the Church.

     
  • posted at 9:30 am on Mon, May 3, 2010.

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    Cogito: Here are some interesting numbers for you...Religious conservatives overwhelmingly identify abortion (83%) and same-sex marriage (65%) as the most important priorities among a set of eight issue areas. Fewer than 10% of religious progressives call those the “most important” issues. Highest priorities for religious progressives are poverty (74%), health care (67%), environment (56%), jobs/economy (48%) and the war (45%).Source: www.publicreligion.orgIsn't that interesting, Cogito? No where does it speak of progressives and their desire to hide the crimes of a pedophile priests. How about holding the ones who are actually accountable for the cover up accountable! Stop making this a progressive or conservative cover up. Your blanket statement is simply ignorant and let's many off the hook for deplorable choices made that have hurt many children and families.

     
  • posted at 2:04 am on Mon, May 3, 2010.

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    It's impossible to get an intelligent discussion going here--always a disciple of Fox News trolling around spouting mindless talking points and unable to form an independent thought, disinterested in reality, and energized by polarized shouting matches.

     
  • posted at 7:58 pm on Sun, May 2, 2010.

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    Cogito: It seems to me that you are more interested in placing blame on a political group than the pedophile himself and the individuals and church that covered it up. Someone that is a progressive is not someone that is okay with pedophile priests.Saying the Catholic Church is progressive is the oddest thing you could say, especially when we are talking about the 1970's.

     
  • posted at 7:51 pm on Sun, May 2, 2010.

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    Cogito: So you really think that the St. Annes Catholics in Lodi, the Catholics in Stockton and Calaveras etc (and on up the ladder of those that covered up the crimes) in the 1970's were progressives and that's why you think they were responsible for the pedophile priest cover up? You seriously believe that? That just doesn't make any sense.

     
  • posted at 7:14 pm on Sun, May 2, 2010.

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    And Skeptic, do you have anything relevant to add, or you just name calling too? Catholics, as a group, voted to elect Chairman ObaMao at a higher percentage than the general public. Conservatives don't vote for Marxists.

     
  • posted at 9:49 am on Sun, May 2, 2010.

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    Cogito wrote on Apr 30, 2010 6:20 PM:". . . the ONLY issues that the Catholic Church has a conservative point of view on are that they are against the murder of unborn children, and women in the priesthood. The rest they're left of Chairman ObaMao."Only the simplest mind or a blog troll would post this kind of idiocy.

     
  • posted at 8:54 am on Sun, May 2, 2010.

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    If you go back to the last 16 Presidential elections, back to Truman, The Catholic Church's membership has cast their votes for the Democrat 11 times, and the Republican 5 times. Even voting for complete idiots Al Gore, and Michael Dukakis. Not exactly conservative material. But the candidate that reflected their politics.

     
  • posted at 8:44 am on Sun, May 2, 2010.

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    Typical Lodian comeback, attack with no substance. The crutch of a weak mind, with defective idealism.

     
  • posted at 6:51 pm on Sat, May 1, 2010.

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    Sure, Cogito, you think everything bad that happens in the world is the fault of liberals and everything good comes from conservatives, right? Do you hear yourself? You think the O'Grady cover-up was all the fault of liberals? Your ignorance knows no bounds.

     
  • posted at 1:20 pm on Fri, Apr 30, 2010.

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    Lodian, the ONLY issues that the Catholic Church has a conservative point of view on are that they are against the murder of unborn children, and women in the priesthood. The rest they're left of Chairman ObaMao. Do you think Desmond Tutu is a conservative? LOL!

     
  • posted at 12:03 pm on Fri, Apr 30, 2010.

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    Lodian, what about all the Hollywood progressives sticking up for Polanski. Preists are usually some of the most liberal people around. What conservatives would you be referring to?

     
  • posted at 4:10 am on Thu, Apr 29, 2010.

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    UGh.... that picture has got to go! eeeek!

     
  • posted at 6:18 pm on Wed, Apr 28, 2010.

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    Mrs. S. wrote on Apr 27, 2010 7:55 PM:" And Nellie, I'd love to chat with you more, but I keep having to scroll past this perv's photo, and as I said, it gives me the heebie jeebies."I know what you mean. It's such a creepy picture and so BIG! Yuck.

     
  • posted at 6:17 pm on Wed, Apr 28, 2010.

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    t jefferson wrote on Apr 27, 2010 8:38 PM:" He's hot! "Another one of your tasteless remarks.

     
  • posted at 6:15 pm on Wed, Apr 28, 2010.

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    cogito wrote "too "progressive" to care."Seriously, Cogito? Are you really going to dump this on a progressive crowd? As I recall, all too well, many conservatives played a huge role in covering up O'Grady's pedophile crimes right here in California. So, you really want to go there, Cogito? I can probably run circles around you on this O'Grady topic, so go for it.

     
  • posted at 3:55 am on Wed, Apr 28, 2010.

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    Looks like those enlightened Amsterdam citizens, you know, where drugs are legal, were too stoned to pay attention to who this guy was. Either that, or too "progressive" to care.

     
  • posted at 3:03 am on Wed, Apr 28, 2010.

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    Pooreastside asks "What's with the church, anyway? " Well, it's run by a bunch of old men in robes, secluded and closed off from prying eyes of the public, practicing celibacy -- or so we're told. Look, what better destination for perverts and pedophiles who know they will be quietly moved to another location far away once identified? It's creepy and unnatural (at least in the opinion of this spouse of a former Catholic). And the chances of it ever changing are ZERO.

     
  • posted at 3:38 pm on Tue, Apr 27, 2010.

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    He's hot!

     
  • posted at 2:55 pm on Tue, Apr 27, 2010.

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    And Nellie, I'd love to chat with you more, but I keep having to scroll past this perv's photo, and as I said, it gives me the heebie jeebies.I'm still a faithful Catholic, although you probably wouldn't understand why. I don't attend Mass in the Stockton Diocese, though.

     
  • posted at 2:50 pm on Tue, Apr 27, 2010.

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    P.S.,As the article points out,the perv used a phony name. However, a fingerprinting would have caught him. As I said, I know of one priest who is implementing background checks in his diocese.

     
  • posted at 2:43 pm on Tue, Apr 27, 2010.

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    Oh, believe me, I'm not defending these people. It's just that people in general were way too negligent and willing to look the other way when it came to child abuse in the seventies. The church treated this as a spiritual matter, and, unfortunately weren't regarded as mandated reporters (the law designating mandated reporters didn't even come about until 1974).I'm not excusing one person who knew about this and just moved the abuser, or who actively obstructed justice (that happened in the Boston Diocese, from what I understand).The Church is learning a hard lesson here, and it's one they deserve. I'm just pointing out that in recent times, people disgusted by this sort of thing (they even exist in the clergy) are standing up for what's right and getting rid of the garbage.I hope other places where molesters lurk will be cleaned out, too. They're not just in the Catholic Church.

     
  • posted at 1:41 pm on Tue, Apr 27, 2010.

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    Mrs. S. writes, "I don't think it's useful to blame the whole institution for the acts and negligence of some in the system."Huh? Mrs S do you have your head in the sand?It is the 'whole institution' (aka the Catholic Church) who tried it's best to bury these many, many cases of child sexual abuse! Cardinals, Monsignors, regular Padres, etc all covers each other by simply playing a shell game with these perverts- move them to another church in a distant location before the church members got wise.

     
  • posted at 11:04 am on Tue, Apr 27, 2010.

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    (continued):I don't know what the Stockton Diocese does, if anything. However, there are people within the Church who care, and they're cleaning house, big time.I don't think it's useful to blame the whole institution for the acts and negligence of some in the system. I totally understand people who are unwilling to tithe sometimes, though. Why pay for the legal defense of people like this creep?You know, after all these years, just looking at this guy's photo gives me the heebie-jeebies.

     
  • posted at 11:00 am on Tue, Apr 27, 2010.

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    This guy violated parole by leaving Ireland, didn't he? Was he in the Netherlands under an assumed name? If not, did Interpol have a file on him? I hope so. But if he didn't have an Interpol file, or he used an assumed name, then Mr. Kohnen's right when he says they wouldn't have found anything.I remember this creep all too well, and I have my own horrible stories to recount. In fact, I don't even attend mass in the Stockton Diocese. However, a family friend who went to school with my husband is a priest. He also has a background in law enforcement at the federal level. He's worked with the Sacramento Diocese to have all lay personnel, clergy and volunteers to undergo DOJ checks and Live Scan fingerprinting.

     
  • posted at 6:12 am on Tue, Apr 27, 2010.

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    The Vatican's official newspaper focuses on praise for the Beatles rather than the international abuse scandalThe timing of its latest effusive piece on the Beatles coincides with mounting focus on the Vatican's response to claims of institutional sexual abuse within the Catholic church. The latest edition of L'Osservatore Romano acknowledged the controversy by saying there was international "support for the Pope".http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2010/apr/12/vatican-beatles-john-lennon

     
  • posted at 5:56 am on Tue, Apr 27, 2010.

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    the Vatican needs to approve marriages for the priests. God made man and then made woman and he made us to fit together. I don't recall anywhere in the bible where it says men who preach about the Lord cannot be married themselves. I am sure some of the 12 Apostles must have been married. So let the priest have a wife, then his sexual urges would be satisfied in a manner acceptable by God and mankind and the children wouldn't be getting abused and raped. It isn't rocket science.... the pope needs to approve marriages to stop all the abuse... duhhhhhh

     
  • posted at 5:24 am on Tue, Apr 27, 2010.

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    So am I to understand that this so called man is able to wonder around through Europe "volunteering" at churches? There is no kind of backround check? This is just sick and frustrating that no process or procedures are put into place by the diocese to prevent this from happening. What kind of religious outfit is this to cover up something like that????

     
  • posted at 4:48 am on Tue, Apr 27, 2010.

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    hairybigtoe, the Vatican doesn't have time to deal with this because they're busy apologizing to the Beatles.Nice try but their diversionary tactic didn't work.

     
  • posted at 4:08 am on Tue, Apr 27, 2010.

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    This guy even looks creepy. My heart goes out to these children who experienced all this evil by someone they undoubtedly looked up to. All those involved should be put on trial. What's with the church, anyway?

     
  • posted at 3:21 am on Tue, Apr 27, 2010.

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    BigHairyToe goes for the knockout punch! I guess the typical Catholic guilt trip method is to look the other way.I've always wondered about a guy a few years younger than me who seemed to come into a big stack of cash. Did the almighty church pay him off to stay quiet?

     
  • posted at 2:38 am on Tue, Apr 27, 2010.

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    way to go St annes church and school! You still pretend like this guy was never here having sex with little boys and girls in the Rectory, behind the alter, and in his Dodge duster. You didn't even tell the parents that their children may have been exposed to this evil! And you still cover it up with the help of Cardinal Mahoney, who should be put on trial! Why wasn't O Grady's behaviour reported to Lodi police! He RAPED 5-10 St Annes children, his own admission, and St annes did nothing except send him to another church where he rapes more kids!

     
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