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Sex allegations put temporary St. Anne’s Catholic Church priest in Yuba City jail

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27 comments:

  • Kevin Paglia posted at 9:41 am on Sun, Mar 17, 2013.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2014

    Please educate us all Mr. Jacobs, HOW is the Catholic church a "cult"?

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 9:38 am on Sun, Mar 17, 2013.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2014

    Unjust to single out the Church, maybe... But, and this is me saying this as a Catholic, I believe the media scrutiny and legal action is a necessary thing. I am also one of those Catholics that believe that the Great Reformation was a GOOD thing. I am hopeful that after this passes that justice be served for both the victims of the predator priests AND the innocent priests dragged through this. I am also hopeful that the Church comes out spiritually stronger and maybe a little more modern in some age old traditions.

     
  • Robert Jacobs posted at 7:59 am on Sun, Mar 17, 2013.

    Robert Jacobs Posts: 298

    This is a cult... It has nothing to do with Jesus Christ...

     
  • robert maurer posted at 10:32 pm on Sat, Mar 16, 2013.

    mason day Posts: 444

    Kevin; I agree with you. I just think it is unjust to single out the catholic church,when these behaviors are so widespread. Nobody should be above the law, and men of the cloth should be held to higher standards.

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 5:03 pm on Sat, Mar 16, 2013.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2014

    In regards to the infallibility. Sorry if this comes across as aggressive but "The pope is infallible so Jesus must support________" has been thrown at me so many times it is getting old. But I try to understand most people don't understand the Catholic Church very well or it's teachings.

    Anyway The Pope is NOT infallible Here is what the last two Popes have said about it: July 2005 Pope Benedict XVI stated: "The Pope is not an oracle; he is infallible in very rare situations, as we know". Pope John XXIII: "I am only infallible if I speak infallibly but I shall never do that, so I am not infallible". Roughly the Pope (position, not man) over history has used the Infallibility decree once every many decades sometimes as much as a century or more.

    Here is a decent explination of the Pope's role in the Church: http://www.catholicmissionleaflets.org/leafpope.htm

     
  • Andy Crowder posted at 4:18 pm on Sat, Mar 16, 2013.

    Andy Crowder Posts: 245

    Baptists call the police when a pastor abuses a child.

    The last pope protected abusers and victimized children further by shaming and blaming them, occasionally threatening them. Tell me, Kevin, if the pope is God's emissary on earth and therefore infallible, does that mean that Jesus approves of pedophilia? Just asking.

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 12:43 pm on Sat, Mar 16, 2013.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2014

    Mr Maurer, sex abuse is happening in every part of society. The Catholic scandals just make big news cause of the SIZE of the church and the DEPLORABLE way it was handled.

    I know the Baptists have many scandals of their own.

    Ms. Bobin's condmenation of ALL Catholics made me wonder if she was willing to revel HER christian denomination so we could see which one was completely FREE of any Sex scandals? I doubt it.

     
  • robert maurer posted at 10:27 am on Sat, Mar 16, 2013.

    mason day Posts: 444

    Oh, Father, I have sinned for using the Appeals-Democrat and LNS word mass instead of service. I have called on a preacher to perform a service in my home on a few select occcasions, also. I just wonder how that ALLEGED incident could have happened if other family members were present or whether she was alone. many people have their own definitions of inappropriate touching. Strange how we only hear of catholic priests and not others committing these crimes. Since we are mincing words Leticia, I know that mass means many ( public church service) compared to a private (individual or family service). Why do you think I Questioned this whole matter?

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:15 pm on Fri, Mar 15, 2013.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    "or as one poster said ALL Catholics supported the preditor priests."

    Anyone who remains a practicing Catholic and has not demanded resolution from the "church" for the practice of moving priests from one parish to another or not allowing priests to be brought to justice in the criminal courts supports preditor priests.

    Until there is activism WITHIN the congregations, "ALL Catholics support preditor priests."

     
  • LETICIA FRUTOS posted at 10:48 am on Fri, Mar 15, 2013.

    LG Posts: 5

    Father was not performing a mass, as masses are only done in church. This was a private service requested by the family of this 16 year old girl.
    Some people in here are using their "Freedom of Speech" a bit loosely. Shame on you.

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 7:43 pm on Thu, Mar 14, 2013.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2014

    Mr Maurer: While it is not "Common", having a priest come into the home for a private mass is not rare either. Many times it will happen when a family has a family member that cannot physically make it to Mass or for some other special occasion.

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 5:38 pm on Thu, Mar 14, 2013.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2361

    "The Catholic Church has not been perfect"?

    Talk about the understatement of the year!

     
  • robert maurer posted at 5:12 pm on Thu, Mar 14, 2013.

    mason day Posts: 444

    Is it nomal for a preacher to perform a mass in a private home? Seems like a good way to be accused of something. Maybe the sermons should remain on hallowed ground to protect innocent priests and monitor the others.

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 3:53 pm on Thu, Mar 14, 2013.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2361

    Given what our area has suffered at the hands of these molester priests, you would think the Church would think twice before sending us another monster.

     
  • Quan Pham posted at 12:22 pm on Thu, Mar 14, 2013.

    qpham63 Posts: 31

    From all the comments and discussions here, it seems that most of you have already convicted Father Julio Guarin-Sosa.

    Please remember that we still live in the country with the justice system that states that the accused is innocense until proven guilt.

    I am a father of two children and am definitely not a fan of pedophiles or those would collude to cover it up for any reason and exposes future children to harm.

    Still, we are a country that live by the rule of law. There has been allegations and it is being investigated. The accuser and the accused will have their day in court.

    The Catholic Church has not been perfect in their behavior as some of its high ranking members has badly behave and other has covered it up. Still this should not make anyone guilty by association.

    St. Anne's is my church and my son attend St. Anne's school and soon my daughter will follow in big brother's foot steps. My wife and I have done a lot of volunteer work, my son was an alter server, now in the school's choir.

    I have never had and still do not have any reason to be concern about his safety as he has been properly taught and the school and church's system has built in safety measure against improper behavior from any one associated with the church or school.

    That said, please note that the alledge occurence took place at a private residence and involves a 16 years old girl. At this time, that is the only fact presented, there are no other facts so please, do not be so quick to judge Father Julio Guarin-Sosa or to dismiss the allegations.

    Please join me and others at St Anne's and elsewhere to pray for transparency in the rigorous pursuit of truth and applied justice as need be. This can be harsh in punishment if Father Julio Guarin-Sosa is found to be guilty but it should also be just as forceful in restoring his already tarnished name and reputation and the reputation of his brother and St Anne's church.

     
  • LETICIA FRUTOS posted at 9:32 am on Thu, Mar 14, 2013.

    LG Posts: 5

    Why do people rush to conclusions without having all the facts?! This report doesn't explain what exactly happened in that home and the truth will come to the surface soon and even then people will still tag him as a molester. I got to personally meet this priest and his brother as well and I can see why someone would feel uncomfortable around them, but that's their dirty minds blowing things out of proportion. I personally LOVE it when the priest get involved with the community as much as these two brothers do and showing love and affection is NOT the same as molesting! With all the other incidents happening with many religions (not just Catholic) it's only natural to jump into what seems more obvious. Everyone that really got to know Father Julio knows what the truth is. My prayers go out to him and his family and may God give him the strength he'll need to fight this one.

     
  • barbara wells posted at 10:50 pm on Wed, Mar 13, 2013.

    barbara wells Posts: 25

    I agree with Kevin, most recently the bus driver, Evans.

     
  • Andy Crowder posted at 7:02 pm on Wed, Mar 13, 2013.

    Andy Crowder Posts: 245

    I'm glad to hear that you are on the same page as the Italian government which is considering indictment of the former pope. I have not seen anyone post that all priests should be arrested, although as we know, people do have strong opinions. I'll take your word for it. Having said that, I do think all priests ought to be ashamed of themselves for the bigotries and misinformation they spread on behalf of the church regarding homosexuality, marriage equality, same-sex parenting, contraception, and the role of women in society. While I do believe there are some truly kind priests and nuns out there, and they are entitled to their own views, deliberate spreading of lies as fact is unconscionable.

     
  • Walter Chang posted at 4:33 pm on Wed, Mar 13, 2013.

    Walt Posts: 1117

    Hey people...

    The rush to judgement is on!

    Join the mob and beat the SNAP people to the punch!!

    It's safe.

    Darrell's not here.


    [wink]

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 4:24 pm on Wed, Mar 13, 2013.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2014

    As I said: EVERYONE should face the legal ramifications for what roles they played.

    That said I would also watch for the witch hunt mobs where some, like certain members that post here have said, say that ALL priests are guilty or as one poster said ALL Catholics supported the preditor priests. A SNAP member came on here and actually stated that even INNOCENT priests should be sent to jail so victims feel more comfortable coming forward.

     
  • Andy Crowder posted at 3:17 pm on Wed, Mar 13, 2013.

    Andy Crowder Posts: 245

    I'm in total agreement. It would seem that you would support the prosecution of the former pope, as he protected child rapists for years and years.

     
  • Andy Crowder posted at 2:54 pm on Wed, Mar 13, 2013.

    Andy Crowder Posts: 245

    Many organizations have had the misfortune of having to deal with a pedophile in their employ. When these criminals are discovered, they are removed and reported to police, not moved to another school, another police beat, another store, another church. The Catholic Church and it's former pope deliberately put children in harms way. They knew more children would be raped, and children who had already reported abuse were victimized further by the church. I don't know of any public schools that have such low regard for children.

     
  • Ed Ojeda posted at 2:04 pm on Wed, Mar 13, 2013.

    Capteo Posts: 16

    Pedophile priests keep doing this because the Catholic Church Hierarchy keeps covering it up. See the movie "Deliver Us From Evil"(2006), a documentary showcasing St. Anne priest Oliver O'Grady, who in the 1970's like to rape very young girls and boys and was finally brought to justice, served 7 out of 14 years(for good behavior), was deported to his native Ireland, and currently receives a nice Catholic pension and is free and come and go as he pleases. Shameful...

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 12:46 pm on Wed, Mar 13, 2013.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2014

    And as a clarification the alligations were NOT while he was at St Anne's. But I am sure those alligations are coming soon as well.

    As I have said repeatedly, Preditor priests and those who protected them MUST face the legal ramifications of what they have done. And those found guilty SHOULD be deflocked.

    Hopefully the new Pope will clean house better than the last.

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 12:41 pm on Wed, Mar 13, 2013.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2014

    So you are in favor of closing down the LUSD as well since there have been many child molsters employed there as well?

     
  • Andy Crowder posted at 12:16 pm on Wed, Mar 13, 2013.

    Andy Crowder Posts: 245

    Agreed.

     
  • Brett Thompson posted at 7:28 am on Wed, Mar 13, 2013.

    Brett Thompson Posts: 54

    It's hard to believe that the Catholic church has spent so much money and time fighting same-sex marriage. Perhaps they should address the rampant child sexual abuse that's happening all over their church. It would seem to me that this abuse is a lot more harmful and "sinful" to others than gays being allowed to marry.

    I'm appalled that the City of Lodi is selling them city land to expand their church. I don't the City should do business with any group that is a direct threat to the safety of our children (this is the SECOND priest at St. Anne's to have allegedly sexually abused children). And, why isn't the State involved in shutting this church and it's school down?

    There is no amount of money you could give me to get me to leave my child alone with a Catholic priest.

     
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