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Voters say 'No' to Measure C

North San Joaquin Water Conservation District sought possible groundwater fee

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Posted: Wednesday, June 9, 2010 12:00 am

Measure C, which could have led to a fee for recharging the area's groundwater, was struck down by a 2-to-1 margin by voters Tuesday night.

With all precincts responding, 67.6 percent of voters had cast their ballots against Measure C.

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23 comments:

  • posted at 3:13 am on Sat, Jun 12, 2010.

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    The city of Lodi uses about 10,000 afa of ground water a year. The area outside the city limits uses about 150,000 afa a years according to LNS.Our great city council has approved ( on another 3/2 vote) a forty million dollar "surface" water treatment plant to treat six thousand afa of river water a year. Larry Hansen says we must do this do this in order to reduce ground water over draft. In my view this is an agriculture problem. Treating six thousand afa of river water, will not make a dent in the over draft problem Larry but it will make a difference in city rate payers income.What will all the rural residents and growers pay toward the cost of our city water treatment plant?

     
  • posted at 12:50 am on Fri, Jun 11, 2010.

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    Pre$$ure$on FYI There are many farmers in the area that are not wealthy, "not connected" , not GOB and do not support Measure C. It was very disappointing to this group of farmers to learn that the Farm Bureau endorsed Measure C. It is clear now, since Mr. Lange and Mr. Peterson are very active in the Farm Bureau.

     
  • posted at 1:30 pm on Wed, Jun 9, 2010.

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    Pilkington- just double click on "Jordan Guinn" (it's in blue under the article title) and you can send your comment through the technology called email directly to Jordan- or did you just want to post that comment for all to see? As to your parts 1 & 2, Do a letter to the Editor thanking your No on C voters vs the 10 bloggers- That also I believe can be done online-

     
  • posted at 1:22 pm on Wed, Jun 9, 2010.

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    dogs4you wrote on Jun 9, 2010 4:35 PM:" Nellie: Remember what Mark Twain had to say about water and whisky, whisky for sipping and waters for fighting over. And to think that where my house sits now used to be the watermelon capital of the world due to the water table being so high. Not any more. "Would they really have done what they were supposed too, or set up a system so they could be 1000's more houses in the district. That HAS ALWAYS been the problem. We were screaming, "Where will you get the water for these new homes?" They didn't care, they would just build, build, build. Now, maybe, they will have to actually solve the problem with what they have, or quit and we can find someone who can. We can split an atom. but we can't figure out a way to recharge the groundwater? It was always about setting up the area for the developers in the future.

     
  • posted at 11:35 am on Wed, Jun 9, 2010.

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    Nellie: Remember what Mark Twain had to say about water and whisky, whisky for sipping and waters for fighting over. And to think that where my house sits now used to be the watermelon capital of the world due to the water table being so high. Not any more.

     
  • posted at 10:52 am on Wed, Jun 9, 2010.

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    What all of you No on C slash Anti-GOB folks are forgetting is this issue is NOT about a tax, it is about WATER!As my late Grandfater, a WID Director, told me "Wars are waged over three things: Religion, Land, & WATER."Our ground water table is sinking! Wells are having to be drilled deeper!Most of you cranky old NIMBYs wont be around to see it, but what happens in another 50yrs when this area has no water to grow those grapevines? Or cherries, or any of those great fruit & veggies and the Thursday Farmers Market...

     
  • posted at 8:41 am on Wed, Jun 9, 2010.

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    It will be interesting to see if the NSJWCD will be able to keep the district's water rights to 20,000 afa ( in wet years ). My guess is the State will swoop in and take this water right for So. California or East Bay.

     
  • posted at 7:15 am on Wed, Jun 9, 2010.

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    Spinnaker, you evidently live west of Ham Ln. which puts you in the Woodbridge Irragation District, therefore you didn`t receive an option on voting on Measure C. East of Ham Ln. puts you in the North San Joaquin Water Conservation Water District which had the opportunity to vote on measure C.

     
  • posted at 7:06 am on Wed, Jun 9, 2010.

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    what i want to know is that i vote by mail and there wasnt anything in my voters deal on prop c at all how come tahis is the second time this has happened how can we vote on local matters if we vote by mail

     
  • posted at 6:29 am on Wed, Jun 9, 2010.

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    Mickeyluvr, and your honorable mayor and long time owner of the Lodi News-Sentinel were 2 of the grossest polluters with their newspaper and printing shop, yet they got away without any personal liability, or very little themselves. Why aren't the council members demanding these properties be cleaned up by the owners, especially the print shop which just sits there vacant rotting away. This is just another connection to the good old boys, who are losing their domination more each day. The same group all tie in together with the yes on C committee and the big boy water barons who want to line their own greedy pockets with "taxes" paid by anyone other than themselves.

     
  • posted at 4:21 am on Wed, Jun 9, 2010.

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    I am glad C was defeated. I live off Kettleman Lane in the area that was taxed for this water recharge project. There was no measure on a ballot just a bill saying pay it. Happened for 2 years, received numerous letters and flyers from NSJ Water conservation district stating that they did not need voter approval and even if it was defeated it would be back. They have had access to taking water from the Mokelumne River for years and never took advantage of it. Just paying the access fees. I also think that it is funny that the city of Lodi payed more for the lawyers fighting to sue all the businesses in Lodi that caused the contamination, than it would have cost just to clean it up in the very begining.

     
  • posted at 4:08 am on Wed, Jun 9, 2010.

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    Mr. GuinnI know that you are aware of the principal supporters of Yes on C Committee. Brad Lange is the Principal Officer, Phil Pennino is the Treasurer and Joe Peterson is the Assistant Treasurer. Ed Steffani is not connected to the Yes on C Committee. The above mentioned people are not only the principal supporters of Yes on C but they have donated thousands of dollars. I'm sure the good people of Lodi would like to know what the creators of the $20,000.00 marketing campaign think about the election results. Would you please contact the appropriate supporters and ask for their statement or opinion of the outcome.Thank you, Bryan Pilkington, Member Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Assn.

     
  • posted at 4:02 am on Wed, Jun 9, 2010.

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    although I personally voted yes on C - the feeling out there is that we don't want more taxes on any level. I SAY TAX EACH GRAPEVINE or, the wine growers could do the "gentlemanly" thing and graciously put some of their profits into recharging the aquifers? Each grapevine uses 30 gallons of water/day in the summer....why don't we put a tax on each vine instead of taxing the "little" people in town that use less water than a grapevine?

     
  • posted at 3:47 am on Wed, Jun 9, 2010.

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    ed staffani must be drinkin the kool aid. health care isn't a right. education isn't a right. and ME payin for YOUR water, ISN'T RIGHT! just like how WE have to pay for the water clean up for lodi. WHY? WE didn't make the mess. how rediculous. they couldn't get those responsible for the mess to pay for the clean up, so, they'll just pass the bill on to those that are responsible citizens of lodi, and make em pay for the clean up by tackin it on to our city bill.

     
  • posted at 3:16 am on Wed, Jun 9, 2010.

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    Good posts everyone with the exception of T & C. Why do you have to make this personal yet again against pre$$ure$on? Can't you say something original on your own?Again, putting T & C aside, this was a victory for the people against the GOBs. They'll be back, for sure, but we'll just have to stand up to them again. VICTORY TO THE PEOPLE.

     
  • posted at 2:49 am on Wed, Jun 9, 2010.

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    pre$$ure$on wrote on Jun 9, 2010 7:31 AM:"Just another set of dysfunctional good old boys lining the pockets of the wealthy and well connected."Then its safe to say then, that you are (Not well connected, pre$$ur#on?

     
  • posted at 2:47 am on Wed, Jun 9, 2010.

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    pre$$ure$on wrote on Jun 9, 2010 7:31 AM:" Thank you, Mr. Bryan Pilkington for bringing the truths out about this dysfunctional water board and congratulations for a great job well done.pre$$ur$on? You are slipping big time!How?You have always tried to shove down our throats that anyone in "Power" was a (GOB)!Like I said, you are slipping.

     
  • posted at 2:31 am on Wed, Jun 9, 2010.

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    Thank you, Mr. Bryan Pilkington for bringing the truths out about this dysfunctional water board and congratulations for a great job well done. And great blogs by all so far this morning. This sound defeat by a 2 to 1 margin says it's time to replace these old timers on the board that are just gofers for the wealthy farmers who hide in the shadows while watching their flunkies do their dirty work and spread the propaganda spoon fed to them. Now Lodi city council will take its 3rd try at fleecing Lodi taxpayers with their "new" redevelopment plan. Just another set of dysfunctional good old boys lining the pockets of the wealthy and well connected.

     
  • posted at 1:55 am on Wed, Jun 9, 2010.

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    A Victory for All the People, Part 2The taxpayers of the Water District have spoken and the Water Board Directors Mark Beck, Dan Parises, Joe Mehrten and Tom Hoffman should listen and respond to the needs of all the taxpayers of the District, not just a few wealthy landowners. The people of the entire Water District have won the fight against, Taxation Without Representation. In the coming months, the people of the Water District will be heard and hopefully we will have evening meetings so that more people will have the opportunity to attend and participate. This is a major victory for all the people of the Water District. The fight for social justice for taxpayers will go on and the fight against Taxation Without Representation has just begun.Thank You, Bryan Pilkington, Director NSJWCD

     
  • posted at 1:54 am on Wed, Jun 9, 2010.

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    A Victory for All the People, Part 1June 8, 2010Thank you to all the People of the Lodi, Acampo and Lockeford Area. I would to thank all the people who supported our just cause, and fought against, "Taxation Without Representation". There are too many people to name individually, but I would like to thank everyone who donated their time, money and property to get out the word that Measure C is a Water Tax, pure and simple.

     
  • posted at 1:44 am on Wed, Jun 9, 2010.

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    Of course a tax and spend big government person just "can't understand" why the people would not vote to tax themselves more. It is a shame that they will continue to bring this forward until it passes just like the progressive always do. Read the book "Dependent on DC" by Twight for a great expose on the ever expanding government and why we are in the sad shape we currently are.

     
  • posted at 1:35 am on Wed, Jun 9, 2010.

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    Deception and lawsuits are not tactics accepted by voters. The real problem here are the players. Let's move forward and replace some of current board members to work towards an acceptable solution. Congratulations and Thank you to a job well done Bryan Pilkington.

     
  • posted at 1:13 am on Wed, Jun 9, 2010.

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    Congratulations Bryan Pilkington for all your hard work and that of your friends. Your couldn't have said it better, "The people of the entire water district have won the fight against taxation without representation," Bryan Pilkington said in a statement.But, of course, the water board will not accept the people wishes. They'll be back.

     
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