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Posted: Saturday, January 23, 2010 12:00 am

At some magical age, human beings cross the threshold from "children" to "adults."

One day before their 16th birthday, teens can be cited if found driving. On the eve of their 18th birthday, they still have many limits. But the next morning they can suddenly buy cigarettes and lottery tickets, and they can be drafted into the military — though they can't drink alcohol for another three years.

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  • posted at 8:20 am on Fri, Jan 29, 2010.

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    Being a former student of Mr. Krienke's, I have to admit, that yes, the news of what happened came as a shock to me. However, I've kept up with the story, and I haven't seen too many people standing up for him. While I know it's not right or beneficial to bend the law for a single person, I don't like the way that he's now seen as a creep, preying on innocent adolescent high-schoolers. He was never this way towards anyone. It makes me sad to know that now he can never teach again. Mr. Krienke has an unbelievable gift for teaching. How many teachers really have a gift for making Government and Economics fun, interesting and relatable to a group of 17 and 18 year olds? Thanks to him, I still find that very fascinating. Now, the world has one less real teacher. And while yes, he was a teacher, and yes, she was a student, and knowing Mr. Krienke, I have to agree with this: ""Undoubtedly there was a boundary that was crossed because he was teacher and she was a student, but falling in love doesn't always happen in the best of situations," Leckstrom said."

     
  • posted at 8:15 am on Fri, Jan 29, 2010.

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    Being a former student of Mr. Krienke's, I have to admit, that yes, the news of what happened came as a shock to me. However, I've kept up with the story, and I haven't seen too many people standing up for him. While I know it's not right or beneficial to bend the law for a single person, I don't like the way that he's now seen as a creep, preying on innocent adolescent high-schoolers. He was never this way towards anyone. It makes me sad to know that now he can never teach again. Mr. Krienke has an unbelievable gift for teaching. How many teachers really have a gift for making Government and Economics fun, interesting and relatible to a group of 17 and 18 year olds? Thanks to him, I still find that very fascinating. Now, the world has one less real teacher. And while yes, he was a teacher, and yes, she was a student, and knowing Mr. Krienke, I have to agree with this: ""Undoubtedly there was a boundary that was crossed because he was teacher and she was a student, but falling in love doesn't always happen in the best of situations," Leckstrom said."

     
  • posted at 10:06 am on Wed, Jan 27, 2010.

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    Most teens have sex during their high schools years but won't admit it to adults.

     
  • posted at 2:16 am on Tue, Jan 26, 2010.

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    Babies having babies. ...Just another social issue that relates to the cost of energy. As the cost of energy goes up the level of adolescent maturity goes up with it. In other words "cheap energy" lends itself to to a social condition I call prolonged adolescence (aka retarded development). Another way to look at it is to say that society will do whatever it can get away with; and that the cost of energy is always the most influential factor when trying to determine varying levels of adolescent maturity. That's why spoiled kids tend to be immature little brats; while kids that are told to work for their own access to resources tend to mature much faster -- I guess a part time job would do more teach kids about life (and sex) than all the sex ed in the world. ...Time for jobs, Obama -- not more "stimulus".

     
  • posted at 5:35 am on Mon, Jan 25, 2010.

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    I think TEENS in Calif are having SEX Way before 18!

     
  • posted at 3:56 am on Mon, Jan 25, 2010.

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    freedomwriter- The CDC found: Incidence of sexually transmitted diseases among middle and high school students has been increasing since 2002.The percentage of students with multiple partners and no condom use has increased over the same time period.The CDC is now discovering sexually transmitted HIV infections among high school students!!With increased freedom from authority, injectable drug use among some high school ethnic groups has also increased.The US has the highest rate of teen pregnancy and births among western nations.81% of births for women under 20 are among unmarried teens.The younger a female is, who has sex, the greater is the likelihood of having un-wanted sex.Only 1/3 of high school girls who become pregnant while in high school, will graduate.The daughters of HS age mothers are 25% more likely to become teen mothers. The sons of HS age mothers are 17% more likely to go to prison.More children of school aged moms, suffer from lower birth weights and have a higher incidence of poor school performance.Sex among students under 18 is not bad for our youth?

     
  • posted at 3:25 am on Mon, Jan 25, 2010.

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    Layla- Can you advise me about this questions?Quote: "...and they can be drafted into the military...? Didn't the military draft end in 1973--THIRTY SEVEN YEARS AGO? We still have regitration requirements for males ONLY but there is no enforcement.Quote-- "though they can't drink alcohol for another three years..."It depends on the state. Also, if they are in the MILITARY (from the same quoted sentence) it is up to the local commander of the specific base to decide based on the location of the base.

     
  • posted at 5:36 am on Sun, Jan 24, 2010.

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    freedomwriter, Do you think that a teen, 15-18 years old is old enough and capable of dealing with the consequences of having sex? I'm talking both boys and girls. Are they emotionally prepared for the possibility of having a baby? For the possibility of getting a STD? Of dealing with the social judgements from their peers of getting pregnant? how about the disruption they will hav in their development twords their dreams?An example of the last one is a friend of my brother's who had recieved a scholarship to Juilliard in early spring. in late fall she was pregnant, lost her scholarship because she ended up having to work to provide for her baby. All she ever wanted was to be a dancer, last I heard she was an officer manager.All the contraceptives in the world are faulty except abstinence.

     
  • posted at 1:59 pm on Sat, Jan 23, 2010.

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    BREAKING NEWS if you haven't heard. Teens have sex. People love sex. Sex is a natural part of life. Sex is a nautral curiosity. Sex itself is not a crime. The human body is not poison.

     
  • posted at 1:03 pm on Sat, Jan 23, 2010.

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    What a great article. Isn't it ironic that we teach sex education in school, in some cases we include contraceptives in the education and even how to use it or distributing it. Then when a teen uses that education they are prosecuted. Our views on consensual sex are ridiculous and sad.Isn't it ironic that the age of consent for foreign travelers in our country is 12 and 16. Do we have an obligation to respect foreign views within our own borders? Yet we do it with the age of consent. So the question that begs to be answered...Is the rest of the world right and we are wrong or vice versa?Isn't it ironic your governor was notorious within his profession for slapping women on the behind? Or that The governator had sex with a 16 year old when he was 28? I wonder when he will be prosecuted and forced to register as a sex offender....

     
  • posted at 10:06 am on Sat, Jan 23, 2010.

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    Acampo Mom 8:38 AM:Ditto!dogs4you 11:08 AM: LOL!

     
  • posted at 9:45 am on Sat, Jan 23, 2010.

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    Since I no longer subscribe to the LNS, was this article on the front page today? If so, why? Must have been a slow news day.Also, the mention of the Krienke case is poor journalism, in my opinion. Who knows what the real story was or why he opted to plead guilty to the one count. And, it is not remotely related to the gist of the whole story. Sensationalism!

     
  • posted at 6:03 am on Sat, Jan 23, 2010.

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    The test is "pop psychology" almost at its best. This junk has been around forever, it seems. I hope people who take it recognize it for what it is.

     
  • posted at 5:40 am on Sat, Jan 23, 2010.

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    I have no idea what the magic age to have sex is, but I know most teenage boys would subscribe to the old saying, "if there`s grass on the field, let`s play ball!"

     
  • posted at 5:08 am on Sat, Jan 23, 2010.

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    Always give a job or get an opinion from a teen-ager since they seem to know everything. Don`t believe me, just ask one.

     
  • posted at 4:17 am on Sat, Jan 23, 2010.

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    This is an informative and well-reasoned, thoughtful article on a very sticky and misunderstood subject. Before all of the "teens should just never have sex outside of marriage at all" commenters come out, it's important to note that age-of-consent laws generally prohibit all sexual activity with those deemed "underage" - that includes touching, kissing and a whole lot of activity that most of us would not feel was inappropriate between a 19 and 17 year old, or between a 14 and 16 year old. These laws can have the effect of ruining an older teens life with a lifetime being branded a sex offender, but they do nothing to prevent sexual activity between older and younger teens, because no-one knows the extent of the law.

     
  • posted at 3:08 am on Sat, Jan 23, 2010.

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    The correct website address is www.howadultareyou.comClicking on the above link won't take you to the test.After taking the test I still contend that it is somewhat flawed, a child will sometimes know which way they are supposed to answer, even though they are not answering truthfully...which makes the results inaccurate. The test will deem you less mature if you have some physical problems, such as bad coordination, poor hearing, being over weight, etc. That seems weird to me. Don't those problems usually increase WITH age?

     
  • posted at 2:50 am on Sat, Jan 23, 2010.

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    I don't know, I've encountered many teens who were more together than some adults. I can think of a dozen adults off the top of my head that never made it out of their teen maturity levels. And I have seen many very mature teens who were more on the ball than most adults. Not sure if it is 30% but I'd easily believe 15% are as mature or more than many adults.That said I would have to see the study and look at the measurements taken before buying the results. It may be as simple as the teens in the study appear more mature because they aren't allowed by law to do what the adults can do.

     
  • posted at 2:48 am on Sat, Jan 23, 2010.

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    Do the study results really mean that 30% of 13 and 17 year olds are more mature, or that the median adult maturity is equal to or less than that of a 13 or 17 year old? Possibly the latter!

     
  • posted at 2:38 am on Sat, Jan 23, 2010.

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    Epstein launched www.how adultareyou.com, a site where users take a series of tests to gauge their maturity levels. After analyzing the first 30,000 test-takers, Epstein recently submitted a study to a psychology group. His results: 30 percent of teens between the ages of 13 and 17 scored higher than the median adult age.In other words, many teens were more competent than adults.NO...In other words, the tests were flawed.

     
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