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Posted: Monday, September 10, 2007 10:00 pm

Reaction to Hamid Hayat’s 24-year sentence on terror charges was mixed in Lodi on Monday.

Some of the Muslim men leaving the Lodi mosque after evening prayer did not want to talk about the trial, fearing that their names would be connected to what they believe is an ongoing FBI investigation.

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36 comments:

  • posted at 5:10 pm on Sat, Sep 15, 2007.

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    Send him to Supermax. Fresh air, no smoking. And plenty of time to think and pray with the other terrorists.

     
  • posted at 9:48 am on Thu, Sep 13, 2007.

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    the "system" is not good!!! you are guilty intill proven not. i have my doughts about the boy's sentence was fair. by the way i am a agnostic. i hope all of you people in the fair city which my kid's were born wake up.

     
  • posted at 12:29 am on Thu, Sep 13, 2007.

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    Yes I see all the responses! This is good. We need to understand what these women are going through! During the Taliban reign, women could not go out of their houses without their man. If their man died, they would have to depend on taliban, which barely gave them any food ect. Where is the ACLU? We should start an underground support group for these women, and what kind of response we get!

     
  • posted at 12:56 pm on Wed, Sep 12, 2007.

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    Dear "God Bless America",

    I am all in favor of FLYING THE STARS AND BARS 24-7, but the location in which you refer to is a Seik Temple, they are NOT MUSLIM. That is a good thing.

    They had an article in the LNS many months ago, and their beliefs appeared to me to be equivalent of a well-rounded Patriotic Amercian citizen.

    I say we shut down our borders now, deal with everyone here, and pass out lots of Trojans!!!!!

     
  • posted at 11:04 am on Wed, Sep 12, 2007.

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    GovAgent... hey cuz. I don't much like the way some muslim women are treated. And the worse thing is the poor things don't get freedom of choice or religion, they're trapped.

     
  • posted at 8:24 am on Wed, Sep 12, 2007.

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    If the Muslims wanted to take a stand for America, they would fly the American Flag at their worship building on the corner of Armstrong and West Lane. This would pledge their allegiance.

     
  • posted at 6:45 am on Wed, Sep 12, 2007.

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    They think there's no other way of life, therefore they have to accept it! This is not just about religion. It's about politics and control that the Muslim Men want. If these men cannot become Americanized and start respecting women, it's time to give them the boot!

     
  • posted at 6:43 am on Wed, Sep 12, 2007.

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    If you ask me, it's time for these Muslim women to make a stand, think for themselves, and stop putting up with their Husband's crap!! They've been brainwashed into one type of lifestyle. The lifestyle of no freedom, slavery, and control.

     
  • posted at 4:04 am on Wed, Sep 12, 2007.

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    Tell me why this religion only respects males and not females? Where are the 73 virgin men in your afterlife for your wives? Or do you have a double standard? Maybe a heaven for men and one for women? Why so much hatred for dogs? Cats are okay, and dogs not? Why do you hate music? Unless its an old man chanting some Moselem GOB prayer? Why is there so much hatred for people who don't want to believe anything?

     
  • posted at 4:02 am on Wed, Sep 12, 2007.

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    Half of your population are women. Where are they? I know, hiding inside your houses. I watch my neighors, walking along at night in large groups, so the men won't punish them. Why have wives if you treat them with no respect? I look and look and rarely will I see FREE Moslem women in this town. They are tended to like sheep, with the head honcho telling them where they may go. Where are our liberal NOW ladies? Oh its okay to subjugate women- if their husbands are Moslem.

     
  • posted at 4:00 am on Wed, Sep 12, 2007.

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    Trying to understand our Moslem neighbors. They enjoy our country and like not being followed by the Sharia police with their hatchets and knives, but they refuse to let their women out of the house. I thought slavery was illegal? My challenge to Lodi Moslems. Let your women be humans. Let the walk during the DAY, let the drive a car or a motorcycle, or whatever they want to do.

     
  • posted at 3:23 am on Wed, Sep 12, 2007.

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    I have family members who are Turkish and live in Turkey. They are Moslems. When 911 attcke happened they called me crying about the terror of other Moslems, who were screaming "Allah Akbar" as they were slitting throats and crashing the aircraft. But these are Turks AND Moslems BY FAITH NOT BY POLITICS, who years ago chased out the extremists with their hatred of women and their Burqahs. Maybe more Moslems can see what Islam can be rather than a 12th century political organization that it has become.

     
  • posted at 3:13 am on Wed, Sep 12, 2007.

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    T&C has what is called righteous indignation. When he sees the evil, the lawbreaking of the illegal alien invasion, he has the guts to say it, instead of whispering about it. Go T&C. If they are criminals they are criminals. Illegal aliens ARE criminals. I say GO BACK illegals.

     
  • posted at 12:34 am on Wed, Sep 12, 2007.

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    During 9-11 yesterday there was a a lot of activity on the eastside here in lodi. The foot traffic was busy! I saw a lot of musilum women walking around, but then I saw the men walking about 4 houses away from them wearing regular cloths. Its like they are putting their women out in front dressed like a musilum to see if someone will try to hurt them. It is sad for the musilum women when their men treat them that way! the musilum men seem to be cowards! Sorry but treat your women right!

     
  • posted at 4:54 pm on Tue, Sep 11, 2007.

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    Oh Richard ... out of the muck you come! "a true muslim doesn't fear the 25 years in jail"? I'll bet this one does. The lil beoutch got caught doing stuff his daay told him to do. Scape goat? yep, for your people, not us! WAH!

     
  • posted at 4:48 pm on Tue, Sep 11, 2007.

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    Sad Americans ,fool blah blah... You're a fool.

     
  • posted at 3:59 pm on Tue, Sep 11, 2007.

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    I know what to "think" after Hamad Hayat's sentence... Don't lie to the FBI; Don't attend a terrorist training camp in Pakistan; Don't talk about your support of jihad (on tape) to an FBI informant... The message couldn't be clearer, whether punctuated by 24 years or 24 months.

     
  • posted at 12:06 pm on Tue, Sep 11, 2007.

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    Enjoy the grey bar hotel! I wish he would have been deported!

    Until the MUSLIM COMMUNITY STEPS UP AND STANDS AGAINST TERRORISM, I DO NOT TRUST THEM. Why don't I trust them? It is due to their actions, and bitter hatred of "Infidels".

    Again, I DO NOT TRUST THEM, They are in my eyes "UNTRUSTWORTHY"!

    So while many people turn a "blind eye" towards muslims, I eat my ham sandwich, and keep a vigilant eye on them.

     
  • posted at 11:11 am on Tue, Sep 11, 2007.

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    25 years ago i used to play at blakely park. i remember hearing ths muslim kids making pro p.l.o. remarks. i am convinced that a good majority of these people beleive we are all infidels. they are only here because it is so much better than the rat hole they are from.

     
  • posted at 9:05 am on Tue, Sep 11, 2007.

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    Is Taj khan going write another article like he did right after 911 telling us that we "just have to understand why they did it"? Mr.Taj Khan needs to understand that you cannot defend the indefensible and here he is trying to do it again. Maybe he needs to just once take an objective look at the crime instead of his usual knee jerk reaction.

     
  • posted at 9:02 am on Tue, Sep 11, 2007.

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    What is it about ILLEGAL that you don't understand? Please refresh my memory.

     
  • posted at 9:02 am on Tue, Sep 11, 2007.

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    I have encouraged any one who I talk to.Keep an eye out on the man in the article who says this boy is an innocent person.Any one who has read his columns needs to keep a vigilant eye on him.

     
  • posted at 8:19 am on Tue, Sep 11, 2007.

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    anyone who knows me, knows i am not afraid of being politically correct. you mark my words, i guarantee you there are more "muslims" in this town that lean toward hating america. there are good and peaceful muslims here, but i know there are still those that want to bring their band of "justice" when the time is right, living right among us. i will bet my life the FBI is still watching certain people, and they should. be vigilante lodi. don't fall asleep on this one...

     
  • posted at 8:13 am on Tue, Sep 11, 2007.

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    richard mcintyre; i wish that the LNS would open up the discussion forum again, so that people can see what you are REALLY about. its obvious that you lean the hamid hayat way. muslims that don't condone violence or political leanings towards it, are philisophically entrenched IN IT. i have yet to see a muslim in this town say "well IF he was involved, he got what he deserved". you for one, never condemn these issues

     
  • posted at 7:47 am on Tue, Sep 11, 2007.

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    Almost every war in the world right now in one way or another is connected to Muslims. Although some Muslims are good people, I honestly think the majority have hatred to our western ways. It is written in thier religion to kill the infidels. To them we are the infidels. Not just the government, or the rich, but the average person. So anybody who sympathysis with this guy, are doing so because they hate America. Some may say he is innocent, but the guy admitted to it. Its that simple.

     
  • posted at 7:20 am on Tue, Sep 11, 2007.

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    HE NEVER WAS IN A TRAINING CAMP THAT WAS HERE SAY// check for your self and the pics they show on tv of guy shooting and people climbing monkey bars is a film check for your self ignorant people, dont just agree investigate ....

     
  • posted at 6:44 am on Tue, Sep 11, 2007.

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    To: The Law 1&2. What you had to say was the most astute and correct thing that I have ever read a blogger write. It seems that he who whines the loudest, professes that their rights are being violated the loudest wins. And it's very sad. Thank you for sharing your wise expertise on what the law really should be. I hope we get back to that and away from all of the political correct 'crap'.

     
  • posted at 6:40 am on Tue, Sep 11, 2007.

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    "I don't think he was doing something," he said. "He was caught in the talking and not in the acting." There is an old saying: "As a man thinketh in his heart, so is he." Meaning, that if a person can think it, he has the capability of doing it. Don't be ignorant here. This young man went to a terrorist school for one purpose and that was to learn to become a terrorist. He got a very just sentence, albeit, too lenient. Back in the day, our country shot those who committed treason.

     
  • posted at 6:39 am on Tue, Sep 11, 2007.

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    and I have nothing to hide...I would not be afraid of the FBI or Police, or a reporter! Nor would any American! If you have done no wrong, there can be no fear! Those who have something to hide have something to fear. A MSN poll this year stated that 25% of Muslims in America feel that Killing others in the name of Islum is not wrong! What bothers me is that Muslims can know of a plot and yet they will keep silent!

     
  • posted at 6:10 am on Tue, Sep 11, 2007.

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    T&C you seem to have this huge obsession with illegal immigrants, I think you are in the wrong profession you should become a U.S border patrol and stop talking so much crap!

     
  • posted at 5:48 am on Tue, Sep 11, 2007.

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    Three constants:
    The sun comes up in the east
    The Pope is Catholic
    Muslims will whine about the smallest indignity.

     
  • posted at 5:03 am on Tue, Sep 11, 2007.

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    The Day of Judgment will uncover all that this twisted government is trying so hard to conceal. 24 years may seem like a long time, but that's nothing compared to being sentenced to an eternal torment in hell. A true Muslim doesn't fear being on some FBI watch list, rather he is worried about whether or not he is on the list of people who will enter the fire of hell. May Allah save all the believers from the fire, Ameen.

     
  • posted at 4:39 am on Tue, Sep 11, 2007.

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    How can they say he did nothing wrong? Did he not attend a terrorist camp? That is worth 24 years by itself. He is lucky he got only 24 years. Loser.

     
  • posted at 3:32 am on Tue, Sep 11, 2007.

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    Lodians are so naive, they think this is all really a big joke. Why do you think they increased security at GM and Cottage Bakery? Because ILLEGALS were sneaking in there to take your jobs away? I think not. Doesn't Lodi CC and GOB's react to anything that doesn't concern money and/or greed? It seems not, CC doesn't have, nor has even talked about, the consequences of more subversive types of people nor a plan for fighting it. No Money, maybe?

     
  • posted at 3:21 am on Tue, Sep 11, 2007.

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    continued: If someone needs help, I don't ask what color skin they have or what their religion is, I help them. When you plan to hurt others even if you rationalize it using religion, it is not acceptable. Its unfortunate that this youg man had to learn his lesson this way. You are not allowed to plot or assist anyone to plot any armed attck on our country. The law has spoken.

     
  • posted at 3:20 am on Tue, Sep 11, 2007.

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    At some point the law has to have some importance. In the past, the "political correctness", of politicians to garner support has merged into our society to produce aberrant results. If a person commits a crime, perceived "injustices" can be considered not as "facts" of the case, but as a filter to use during sentencing. The law and the people have spoken. We can start assessing our behavior and thought to learn that freedom means more than our first amendment rights, but also our responsibilities to each other.

     
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