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Posted: Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:00 am | Updated: 5:56 am, Thu May 3, 2012.

A 25-year-old man who says that convicted pedophile Oliver O'Grady sexually molested him in 1992 has sued O'Grady and the Stockton Diocese.

O'Grady, who is in an Irish jail after pleading guilty to possessing child pornography, was assigned to parishes in San Andreas and Hughson when the plaintiff was allegedly molested. He was a priest at Lodi's St. Anne's Catholic Church from 1971 to 1978.

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56 comments:

  • Ben Sanacore posted at 8:01 pm on Wed, May 16, 2012.

    Ben Sanacore Posts: 104

    Will Travis Trotter live happily ever after? What goes around comes around. I feel very sorry for him.

     
  • Ronald Brown posted at 3:43 pm on Mon, May 14, 2012.

    gipper Posts: 116

    Well, I can say pretty definitely that Travis Trotter is a fraud. He seemed to take SNAP and others that believed his story to the tune of $3.75 million ride.

    As I was right, Mr. Trotter seemed to get back and into the workforce pretty quickly. His resume is already up on LinkedIn!! I am glad that he is an active job seeker in this tough economy, but I think the money that he stole from the Diocese of Stockton gives him much more financial security than those who are looking for work.

    I was right in the fact that he is still being employed by Southwest Airlines (as in other posts). He currently says that he is on the "leave of absence". This means that he drawing a salary from a disability insurance carrier or Southwest that is between 60-75% of his salary. Moreover, this kills the argument that SNAP and others have made about his medical bills. He is currently a Southwest employee, and he can purchase insurance at employee rates versus market rates for health complications that may arise because of "his abuse". Funny, Mr. Trotter's physician never testified as to his medical condition. He is still paying fairly affordable rates for his and his family's health insurance.

    The only people that testified about Trotter's mental state was an "expert" on repressed memory and the prosecution's own psychiatrist Dr. Ko (more about her later).
    It looks like he is still looking to stay in the aviation industry as you look at his career "Airlines/Aviation". Mr. Trotter just needs to be taken off this anti-depressants by his psychiatrist or physician, and he will be fine to assume flight duty (pending a physical). Like I said, he will be up and flying in no time!!

    Mr. Trotter's LinkedIn profile also shows that he has an interest in "food and wine". Funny, HIS psychiatrist that examined him for the case (Dr. Ko) said that he IS an alcoholic that was brought on about by sexual abuse. It is funny, but I do not know many alcoholics who claimed to have an interest in "wine" when they have been found to be an alcoholic by THEIR own hand picked psychiatrist. Did Manly or Trotter deny that Trotter was an alcoholic when Dr. Ko delivered this finding?

    Continuing on, it is more amazing that Mr. Trotter has been able to take on further his studies during the whole time the trial was going on. It is amazing that he was able to continue fastidously through his studies when there was so much "anguish" and "anger" in his life that caused him to leave his job. I wonder if he picked up the idea of "repressed memory" during his study of Industrial Psychology.

    It looks like SNAP, the jury and others were played as fools by the pianist "Trotter the Great". It is sad that money that could have been used in San Joaquin County has now flowed to Marin and Orange Counties. I hope Mr. Trotter enjoys the Master's Degree (and no student debt!!) for emotional testimony based on nebulous details with more holes than a block of swiss cheese.

    In all seriousness, I think this brings into question the liability. An

     
  • Ronald Brown posted at 9:46 am on Mon, May 14, 2012.

    gipper Posts: 116

    Mr. Schmidt, If Kelly was guilty, why subject himself to four and a half years of a trial in which his personal life and priesthood were destroyed? Furthermore, he would have probably avoided the decline of his health that was influenced by this trial. There was not enough evidence to move this to trial on a criminal basis.

    Kelly was found liable due to an Oscar worthy performance from Travis Trotter whose repressed memories and emotional testimony fattened his bank amount substantially. He is a lost soul who has more holes in his story than a block of swiss cheese. I was right that the substantial amount of money that he made from this trial made his repressed memories fade away quickly. He will be up and flying for Southwest in no time at all!!

    Manly made off pretty well too. I hope that you uses some of that $1.2 million+ on gastric bypass surgery. He is looking pretty corpulent, and if he keeps up this pace the next show he will be starring in will be The Biggest Loser!!

     
  • Ben Sanacore posted at 8:25 pm on Sun, May 13, 2012.

    Ben Sanacore Posts: 104

    In case you missed my comments below, Mr. Schmidt, here they are again:

    "Yes, I also find it interesting that many people who go after the Catholic Church don't seem to make a similar stink about other faiths and other organizations that have similar or worse problems.

    We are seeing many more cases of real pedophilia in the schools. I've heard that pedophilia has happened a lot in the public schools, and it has been covered up in the past. You hear about corroborated cases of pedophilia in schools all the time in the media. I personally know of people who claim they were molested by their teachers, and the molesters were never brought to justice.

    I have no doubt that some of the people who accused real molesters in the Catholic Church only did it for the money and weren't molested at all. Unfortunately and sadly, others were molested and deserved every penny they received in legal compensation. False accusers on the other hand make a mockery of the sufferings of those who have truly been abused."

    I've acknowledged real abuse in the Church, but unlike SNAP and its supporters I also see it is prevalent else where in society. I also find it revealing that SNAP and its supporters don't consider that someone would falsely accuse a priest or someone for the money to the point of questioning their real motives. Now who is really demonstrating signs of being brainwashed?

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 5:02 am on Sun, May 13, 2012.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2462

    Interesting that Mr Sanacore cannot envision opposition to the rape of children outside the framework of SNAP. Brainwashed people often find it hard to function outside the framework that has been provided for them.

     
  • Ben Sanacore posted at 10:24 pm on Sat, May 12, 2012.

    Ben Sanacore Posts: 104

    Are you a member of SNAP K Lee or are you just one of their supporters? Your comments seem to be measured and calculated, like something learned in a SNAP seminar. Will you forever remain a mystery?

     
  • Ben Sanacore posted at 10:09 pm on Sat, May 12, 2012.

    Ben Sanacore Posts: 104


    Here's a video link to a presentation by William A. Donohue, Ph.D., President of the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights on the activities of SNAP for those of you who would prefer to hear rather than read about SNAP's activities:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bAMfZ4KEyVk

    Mr. Donohue's presentation puts all of the SNAP allegations against Fr. Kelly in perspective.


     
  • Ben Sanacore posted at 10:01 pm on Sat, May 12, 2012.

    Ben Sanacore Posts: 104

    You will find an interesting report by William A. Donohue, Ph.D., President of the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights on SNAP's activities at the following link:

    http://70.40.202.97/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/image_2011082233321.pdf

    After reading this detailed, compelling report, ask yourself this question: does this sound like what Fr. Mike Kelly has endured?

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 3:14 pm on Sat, May 12, 2012.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2462

    DB, Kelly is guilty, a fact that he has only confirmed by following O' Grady in his flight from the law.

     
  • Ronald Brown posted at 11:58 am on Thu, May 10, 2012.

    gipper Posts: 116

    Mr. Schmidt, there are plenty of other organizations and people with deep pockets besides the Catholic Church.

    Why not turn your case to abuse by politicans, educators and Hollywood. For example, are you pressing and blogging to prosecute the Lodi High School teacher who committed statutory rape with one of his students? Also, are you chasing the likes of Roman Polanski who sexually assaulted a 13 year old girl but lives in luxury in Paris? I do not think you are. Your tirades on sexual assault and abuse reflect your anti-Catholic bias. The postings that you put forth give you a soapbox of which you can spew your vitriol. These are institutions and inviduals with adequate amounts of money who are clearly culpable. Please direct some of your disdain towards them.

    As for their defense, their court costs are paid for by the insurance policies of the Dioceses they operate. I would not expect a simpleton like you to ignore this.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 9:32 am on Thu, May 10, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    I agree with Steve... there should be justice for all children ( and adults) who are abused by another.

    I especially appreciate his word "justice". I also agree that justice should include protecting innocent people from being falsely accused of crimesas was Mike Kelly.

    Too achieve the justice that Steve promotes, I think a full court press should be embraced to look into the educational system in our country where many children have been molested. The church should be scrutinized as well as all industries.

    I think SNAP should be investigated as well as all organizations involved with children should be carefully looked at..

     
  • Kim Lee posted at 4:57 pm on Wed, May 9, 2012.

    Kim Lee Posts: 1798

    Well said, Steve Schmidt.

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 9:40 am on Wed, May 9, 2012.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2462

    Mr Brown, the assertion that ordinary molesters who do not have the benefit of being defended by one of the world's wealthiest organizations are somehow going free because a few of us would like to see justice for the tens of thousands of children that have been and are continuing to be raped by priests is demonstrably false.

     
  • Ronald Brown posted at 5:57 am on Mon, May 7, 2012.

    gipper Posts: 116

    That is why the church has paid billions in claims and has worked to bring many priests to justice.

    Go chase abusers in other organizations Mr. Schmidt and stop your bias against the Catholic Church.


     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 4:16 pm on Sat, May 5, 2012.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2462

    Ron Brown wrote: "I would like to see you and others pursue abusers in other areas outside of the Catholic church."

    Chuckle....Indeed! I am sure that you would love to see the rapists of the Catholic Church and the officials who facilitated their crimes granted a full pardon.

    Five words for you Ron...

    Its Never Going To Happen!

    :)

     
  • Ronald Brown posted at 10:29 am on Sat, May 5, 2012.

    gipper Posts: 116

    Mr. Schmidt, Thank you for finally conceding that abuse happens across all religious faiths and all across society. I think we can both agree that this is reprehnsible in all cases, and the attackers must be held account to the full extent of the law.

    I would like to see you and others pursue abusers in other areas outside of the Catholic church.

    As for the members of the church, Fr Kelly stated in his letter that he left his bank accounts and assets with his attorneys for the settlement. It is interested that Manly and Travis Trotter did NOT touch a penny of these accounts and went straight for the $3.75 million of the Diocese's money. I am sure his personal assets were not that much.

    With the O'Grady case, I am sure they will not touch the limited assets of Fr O'Grady. They will go straight after the deep pockets of the diocese.

     
  • Ben Sanacore posted at 10:09 pm on Fri, May 4, 2012.

    Ben Sanacore Posts: 104

    Pedophilia occurs throughout society. We should all agree on that. I will pose the question: how do we prevent child sexual abuse from happening? Could it be that society doesn't have healthy views about sexuality? Could it be that the media, through things like pornograpy, debases the value of human beings and now even children as sources of selfish sexual pleasure? We will always need law enforcement and the courts to resolve acts of pedophilia, but are there other things in our society we need to improve to minimize pedophilia? Why must we just wait until a child's life is harmed, and we end up with a resolution brokered by attorneys? I'm interested in how other commentators will answer these questions.

     
  • Ben Sanacore posted at 9:43 pm on Fri, May 4, 2012.

    Ben Sanacore Posts: 104

    Yes, I also find it interesting that many people who go after the Catholic Church don't seem to make a similar stink about other faiths and other organizations that have similar or worse problems.

    We are seeing many more cases of real pedophilia in the schools. I've heard that pedophilia has happened a lot in the public schools, and it has been covered up in the past. You hear about corroborated cases of pedophilia in schools all the time in the media. I personally know of people who claim they were molested by their teachers, and the molesters were never brought to justice.

    I have no doubt that some of the people who accused real molesters in the Catholic Church only did it for the money and weren't molested at all. Unfortunately and sadly, others were molested and deserved every penny they received in legal compensation. False accusers on the other hand make a mockery of the sufferings of those who have truly been abused.

     
  • Ben Sanacore posted at 9:17 pm on Fri, May 4, 2012.

    Ben Sanacore Posts: 104

    Ms. Bobin, I know of a guy who was threatened with a slander law suit. He was defiant and said, "bring it on" as you have done with Darrell. When the guy got the court papers in the mail, he started sweating it badly. He ended up paying a handsome settlement. If I were you, I'd be worried. We're all just making our points here; there's no reason to get personal. Opposing viewpoints are good for getting at the truth and democracy. Darrell has demonstrated only an honest interest in justice and clearly no interest in defending or supporting real child molesters.

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 4:37 pm on Fri, May 4, 2012.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2462

    Ron, abuse happens everywhere all the time but seldom in modern history has an organization devoted so much effort to facilitating abusers and defending them from justice as the Roman Catholic Church has over the last 50 years.

    As for the Church's charities, they stand in stark contrast to the lifestyle of the Church hierarchy who enjoy luxuries that are usually reserved for the world's richest plutocrats.

     
  • Ronald Brown posted at 4:25 pm on Fri, May 4, 2012.

    gipper Posts: 116

    The members of the Catholic faith (in parishes) give money Mr. Schmidt. That is what funds the Diocese and allows it to pay its bills.

    As for the Catholic Church think of all the good it does-largest provider of adoptions in the United States (for ALL people NOT only Catholics), care for the lowly in society that includes homeless shelters/food kitchens and education in elementary, high schools and colleges. These are just a FEW services it provides to people and NOT ONLY Catholics.

    To close, are you saying that sexual abuse only happens in the Catholic church? You are pretty naive Mr. Schmidt. If I met you, I bet you I could buy your car for a set of magic beans!!
    The case of Scott Brown (Senator from Massachusetts) shows that it happens in the Protestant church, and I have posted an article of priests sexually abusing kids in other faiths (ex. Hinduism). Do you criticize these abusers Mr Schmidt, or is it your sole purpose to spread your anti-Catholic bias and views on these postings?

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 3:53 pm on Fri, May 4, 2012.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2462

    I will pray for you Ron.

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 3:52 pm on Fri, May 4, 2012.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2462

    I suppose you have folks like this in every age. I bet there were guys who defended Herod too.

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 3:49 pm on Fri, May 4, 2012.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2462

    Honestly Ron, how do you sleep at night?

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 3:48 pm on Fri, May 4, 2012.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2462

    For folks who have taken a vow of poverty, the pedophiles in the Catholic Church sure do seem to have a lot of money.

    If these people had a shred of decency, they would declare moral bankruptcy, they would sell their palaces, their ruby slippers and their "custom designed fragrances" and, after every last victim of their crimes had been compensated, if there was anything left, they would give it to the poor.

    These criminals have no shame and the folks who defend them here have even less.

     
  • Ronald Brown posted at 3:21 pm on Fri, May 4, 2012.

    gipper Posts: 116

    Your remark is funny...for someone in the third grade!!

    The Irish government is criticizing the Catholic Church heavily for allowing and covering up cases of sexual abuse, and it is similar to what the American Catholic church experienced in the late 1990's when the large number of sexual abuse cases were brought forward in America. If you read a paper now and then, you would understand that.

    The only reason why there is more litigation (in civil and criminal cases) in America is because the Catholic Church in the US has more money than the Catholic church in Ireland. It is all about the money!!


     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 3:13 pm on Fri, May 4, 2012.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2462

    With pedophiles from dioceses all over America flocking to its shores, Ireland is quickly becoming the Thailand of Europe. Perhaps, soon, the pedophiliac sex tourism centers of Bangkok will open branch offices in Dublin.

     
  • Ronald Brown posted at 2:50 pm on Fri, May 4, 2012.

    gipper Posts: 116

    Let the case move forward. I think O'Grady should be held accountable criminally, and he should be extradited to the US (if possible) if there is a prepondence of evidence to show that this should be tried criminally. For those that have been abused sexually/physically, I am sure they would prefer their abuser to be held responsible criminally to the full extent of the law.

    I do question the timing of the case as the complaint was filed following the Travis Trotter $3.75 million settlement.

    Moreover, if the case goes forward, I would like to see something greater than "repressed memory" and emotional testimony in a trial as the main reason to hold someone liable in a trial (i.e. physical evidence, expert testimony, etc). In addition, I believe that the plaintiff's testimony should not be contradicatory. Travis Trotter's account of events was filled with more holes than a block of swiss cheese. But with "repressed memory" this is not important.

    If the allegations are based on repressed memories, I was right that this would start an avalanche of lawsuits against entities like religious organizations, school districts, towns/cities, etc who are well funded. With the Travis Trotter model, all it took was "repressed memories" and emotional testimony (worthy of an Oscar!!!) to make one's bank account much larger.
    It is hard to believe the bar is that low for liability. People such as public officials, teachers, coaches, etc should be worried about being sued for cases of "repressed memory".

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 11:43 pm on Thu, May 3, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    about doing business with someone who defends child molesters on the ...

    Mr Reynard... I have never defended any person I thought was a child molester...
    Is there a reason you insist on lying and distorting the truth?

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 11:37 pm on Thu, May 3, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Mr Reynard... you are lying.. Never called Bella of Danville anything.

    I have no reason to state she did anything as I would not know. If my posts were deleted, it had nothing to do with me calling anyone names...

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 11:34 pm on Thu, May 3, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    yes miss bobin... did you read my post at 4:12 pm on Thu, May 3, 2012.....

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 11:33 pm on Thu, May 3, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    I thought you were supposed to be civil. You just talked about Ben using crack... an illegal substance. I think that means you accused him of comitting a crime....
    you stated that I was doing the accusing of crimes but I have not... you have.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 11:29 pm on Thu, May 3, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    yes Ms Bobin...obviously... but false accusations as is your specialty can cause ecomonic damage... I assure you, one client has talked to me specifically about your assertions... If more do and it results in loss, I will take action.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 11:26 pm on Thu, May 3, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Klee Stated...Darrell: Just because you personally do not believe the priest molested the victim, does not mean the victim’s claims are untrue.

    Exactly Klee... good point. That is why I looked at the evidence... it took two seconds as there was none presented. In O'Grady's case... there was evidence and a just conviction... Kelly's case was all repressed memory that was 26 years old...

     
  • Kim Lee posted at 10:53 pm on Thu, May 3, 2012.

    Kim Lee Posts: 1798

    Darrell wrote, "However, just because someone accuses someone of doing something, does not mean it happened."

    Darrell: Just because you personally do not believe the priest molested the victim, does not mean the victim’s claims are untrue.

     
  • Bruce Reynard posted at 9:38 pm on Thu, May 3, 2012.

    Bruce Reynard Posts: 60

    That's right... "all you got to do" is get yourself raped by a molester so that decades later, after all of the misery and struggle you've faced, you might be able to go through a 4 year lawsuit, baring your soul in public so that you can make enough money to pay for some therapy.

    Pass me your crack pipe Ben. I want some of what you're having.

     
  • Bruce Reynard posted at 9:34 pm on Thu, May 3, 2012.

    Bruce Reynard Posts: 60

    I thought that's why you might have become freaked out when you called Arabella Clark a child molester, and then after your post was deleted we kept pointing out how inappropriate you are.

    I can imagine that your clients WOULD be trepidacious about doing business with someone who defends child molesters on the one hand, and then calls victim's advocates molesters and says that they should be "stopped" on the other hand.

    Very unusual personality you have. There's almost always one or two of you in every case though...

     
  • Bruce Reynard posted at 9:27 pm on Thu, May 3, 2012.

    Bruce Reynard Posts: 60

    It's always nice to hear about a successful attorney who is doing GOOD work for a change. I certainly hope that Manly is involved!

    It would be nice to see him drain the diocese until there is nothing left but dust for the criminal, culpable leaders to tend to.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:34 pm on Thu, May 3, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Baumbach stated" I"n O'Grady's case, I have publicly stated he deserved to be in prison and I am glad he was caught and prevented from harming anyone else."

    The very FIRST response to this article, posted by Mr. Baumbach:

    "Of course! And the beat goes on."

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:27 pm on Thu, May 3, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Mr. Baumbach is laughable.

    Anyone who posts comments in this forum or writes letters to th editor is subject public scrutiny.

    I suggest, Mr. Baumbach, that you think before you write or post. You are your worst enemy. Sue away and "prove" whatever you think you can prove.

    I hardly believe that my comments could sway any one of your clients, all they have to do is read what you write. Just as Mr. Maple was denied a place on the Galt school board due to his comments, the same applies to you.

    I look forward to your ill-conceived attempts to blame me for your own follies.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:17 pm on Thu, May 3, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Out of the mouths of babes.

     
  • Ben Sanacore posted at 7:37 pm on Thu, May 3, 2012.

    Ben Sanacore Posts: 104

    Like others, I just can't help but think of the timing of this latest suit toward the Stockton Diocese. O'Grady, the molester deserves all the prison time he has received, but did he molest this latest accuser?

    Mr. Trotter has proven that all you got to do is accuse a priest; cry on the stand; and shout out to the jury that you were raped and you'll be a millionaire. Others now see the opportunity to get on the gravey train too.

    By all indications, this latest claim happened 20 years ago. I doubt there will be any real evidence in this case too, but time will tell.

    SNAP and its supporters like to say that the Catholic Church does nothing to protect children. They like to find people who claim to have been abused decades ago.

    The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops developed a strong policy to protect children from abuse in recent years. Have you heard of many recent cases? Are there any cases that fall within the realm of reasonable police and forensic investigation? The Church has owned up to the problems of the past where they were true and have paid billions of dollars in claims.

    This just doesn't seem to be enough for the bitter, hateful critics of the Catholic Church. It all really calls into question their alleged advocacy for children; their motives; and their sincerity.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 4:40 pm on Thu, May 3, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Ms bobin stated...One must begin to question why exactly Mr. Baumbach continues to defend child molesters so fervently, both in this forum and through letters to the editor.

    Ms bobin, please be assured that I intend to sue you personally if I should lose business because of your false characterizations. I have recorded and filed all your past comments as I felt someday you would go too far and cause economic damage with your baseless accusations. I have had one client who has questioned me because of your inaccurate accusations and now there could be more.

    I have not and do not support any person who molests anyone at any age. Never have and never will.

    I have not articulated anytime or anywhere that I I support molesters.

    In father Kelly's case, I do not believe he is a molester and was railroaded. That is supporting what I believe to be an innocent man...not a molester.

    In O'Grady's case, I have publicly stated he deserved to be in prison and I am glad he was caught and prevented from harming anyone else.

    In the case in this article, it has not been proven that O'Grady did anything to this child. If he did, the child should be compensated without question. However, just because someone accuses someone of doing something, does not mean it happened.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 4:12 pm on Thu, May 3, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Bella of Danville stated...Huh? O'Grady admitted to raping children

    Yes... he did admit he raped children and he is obviously the type of person who should be prosecuted and jailed... that part you have right... When I stated...

    of course, and the beat goes on, I was anticipating people like Bella whould be "ASSUMING" this new accuser was being truthful just because of who he is accusing... and of course I was 100% right... Bella and the normal crowd cannot imagine that someone would lie to get wealthy.

    The verdict that resulted in a 3.7 "MILLION" award looks pretty good to many people.

    Its all about the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

     
  • Ronald Brown posted at 2:54 pm on Thu, May 3, 2012.

    gipper Posts: 116

    Maybe Ms. Lee. I work selecting panel counsels for my company as part of my job responsibilities.

    Are you an attorney Ms. Lee?

     
  • Kim Lee posted at 2:35 pm on Thu, May 3, 2012.

    Kim Lee Posts: 1798

    Ronald Brown wrote, "I work with law firms more than you."

    Have we met? LOL!

     
  • Ronald Brown posted at 1:59 pm on Thu, May 3, 2012.

    gipper Posts: 116

    Ms. Lee,
    I dislike Fr. O'Grady, and I believe that he should be held accountable to the full extent of the law. Many of the advocates want this tried criminally. I do as well. I am not a lawyer, but if the preponderance of evidence is not present it cannot be tried in a criminal court and only in a civil court. This is a fact.
    I only pointed out that Mr. Manly has made tons of money, and he and his firm could take on a pro bono case or two if he truly wants the perpetrators of this egregious behavior to be responsible for their actions. I work with law firms more than you. Many of them are not like Manly's, and they make lots of money by charging companies like mine on an hourly basis. They also allow their attorneys to take on cases on a pro bono basis for those that cannot afford their services.
    With Manly he fronts all the expenses and gets 30-35% of the total damages. His share of the $1.2 million that Travis Trotter brought him bought him a nice new car and some new possessions for his nice oceanfront property. I am just stating the facts. Do you think he would be chasing this case if there was not money involved? Absolutely not!! He would lose money if this was tried criminally--plain and simple!! That is why they call the work pro bono (free counsel). By the way, what is your profession Ms. Lee? What is your expertise and level of depth in your chosen field?

    Do not worry Ms. Lee. As I've stated before, the bar is set so low that "repressed memory" and emotional testimony can get someone a lot of money from a religious organization, school district, town/city, etc. I was predicting that the floodgates would open, and I was right. Manly and every two bit ambulance chaser are after entities with deep pockets.
    If I was a public official, teacher, etc. I would be extremely worried, that I could be sued in the future for some lost soul's nebulous "repressed memories".

    If this does move to trial, and the victim has repressed memories that are forward let him take a lesson from the Travis Trotter school of acting. His performance was stellar!!

     
  • Kim Lee posted at 1:32 pm on Thu, May 3, 2012.

    Kim Lee Posts: 1798

    Ronald Brown: I don't care what nice things someone has in their home or where they live. Why do you begrudge someone from making a buck off of services rendered? That really has absolutely nothing to do with the pedophile priests we're talking about here. Your comments about a lawyers nice cars or nice things etc are inappropriate in regards to a case against a pedophile priest. You are simply trying to divert the attention away from this pedophile priest, and his rape of a child(ren) and trying to belittle the victim and his case. Stick with what really matters here, Mr. Brown. Let the process go forward, indeed.

     
  • Ronald Brown posted at 9:34 am on Thu, May 3, 2012.

    gipper Posts: 116

    Let the process go forward. If the preponderance of evidence shows that O'Grady should be tried criminally, then he should be tried criminally. I do not know if the Irish government will release him though. It would make conduct a criminal trial pretty difficult.

    If no evidence shows that a criminal trial should move forward (or impossible to be held), I bet civil charges will be filed in this case after the authorities decide not to move forward with a criminal case.

    I find it interesting that this case is just being filed shortly after the $3.75 million judgement in the Travis Trotter case. Moreover, it is interesting that the plaintiff is suing not just the dioceses but the parishes. The parishes have sexual molestation coverage through the Diocese and not on a parish by parish basis. He stands to collect little or nothing financially from each parish.

    Does anyone know who is representing the plaintiff? I smell Manly's involvement in this case. Take a look at his firm's website, and he specifically points to the "amount of wealth that the Diocese of Stockton has". He even has a link to immediately contact an attorney in his office with claims in this Diocese!!

    As I said before, Manly and his firm have made a lot of money off suing the Catholic Church. He has done quite well for himself. How many people do you know that have oceanfront homes in Newport Beach? I am sure that he has nice things in that house as well as nice cars that transport him from his house to wherever he wants to go.
    If the trial does show the preponderance of evidence to move forward criminally, I would love to see Manly and his firm take it on a pro bono basis. His firm does not charge on a hourly fee for these cases, but they take 30-35% of the ultimate settlement. I would not hold my breath that he would do it. He is a shark in a suit, and he does not take prisoners. He is in this for the money only!!

    With the bar set so low that "repressed memory" and emotional testimony will get you large amounts of money from entities with deep pockets like religious organizations, towns/cities, school districts, etc, I predicted that people would come out of the woodwork with allegations like these. I guess I was right.

    If a civil case goes forward, the plaintiff should contact Travis Trotter for acting lessons. He gave an Oscar worthy performance on the stand that the likes of Clooney, Damon, Pitt , Crowe or Cooper could not replicate.


     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 9:31 am on Thu, May 3, 2012.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    O'Grady has already been proven in criminal court to be a monster. His CV has been outlined in numerous articles, including this one.

    One must begin to question why exactly Mr. Baumbach continues to defend child molesters so fervently, both in this forum and through letters to the editor.

     
  • Kim Lee posted at 8:50 am on Thu, May 3, 2012.

    Kim Lee Posts: 1798

    Darrell wrote, "Of course! And the beat goes on."

    And it has been allowed to go on by the Catholic Church. The church has chosen NOT to deal with their pedophile priests properly, so I hope the beat does go on with all victims coming forth and telling the truth about these heinous crimes.

     
  • Kim Lee posted at 8:45 am on Thu, May 3, 2012.

    Kim Lee Posts: 1798

    Unfortunately, the Catholic Church has become a big joke. The church's inability to recognize the problem and take care of it properly has tortured and horrified many for decades now. What will it really take for them to make it stop? Obviously, money is not the issue for them so what will it take? Too many trusting and faithful Catholics have suffered terribly over the Catholic Church's heinous decisions.

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 7:55 am on Thu, May 3, 2012.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2462

    Chuckle.... Darrell, I am looking forward to your spirited defense of O'Grady although I hope that your attacks on his victims will lack the ferocity and mean spiritedness that characterized your assault on Father Kelly's victim.

     
  • Bruce Reynard posted at 6:01 am on Thu, May 3, 2012.

    Bruce Reynard Posts: 60

    OOOF... Sounds like the Vatican sent all of their problem priests to Stockton.

    I wonder how many more lawsuits it will take before the parishioners stand up and demand that the church leaders be terminated and replaced with people willing to actually do something about complaints when they happen?

     
  • Arabella Clark posted at 5:11 am on Thu, May 3, 2012.

    Arabella Posts: 129

    Huh? O'Grady admitted to raping children; then stupidly after he was let out of prison got caught looking at child pornography on an airplane. That's why he is back in prison, this time in Ireland.

    If I were raped by O'Grady, I'd sue too. Children who are raped are scarred for life.

    You might try watching the Academy Award nominated documentary"Deliver Us From Evil." I will never forget as long as I live the sight of the father of one of O'Grady's victims crying and howling in emotional pain.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 2:58 am on Thu, May 3, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Of course! And the beat goes on.

     
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