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Convicted killer Loren Herzog commits suicide

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  • Jay Samone posted at 10:48 am on Sat, Jan 21, 2012.

    Jay Samone Posts: 359

    Brian - you're correct in that he knew exactly where the victims are. Shermantine just wants MONEY. That's it. Nothing more - not notoriety, credit, etc - he just wants MONEY. That's all he's ever said when it comes to giving up locations. Pay his family and he'll talk. That's exactly what Padilla did - he offered him money and I bet he took it. That's why he's talking now.

    The reason why he was living on state property was because no county would take him. Usually parolees are released to the carea of commitment, but San Joaquin County fought to prevent him from being released into the area. All surrounding counties refused to take him, so the only way he would be able to be paroled was to house him on grounds and supervise him there.

  • Brian Dockter posted at 8:19 am on Sat, Jan 21, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2866


    Thanks for clarifying things. But it supports my theory even more. The fact that he never gave up any information doesn't mean he didn't know where Cindy's body is.
    And the fact he was" intellecually slow" reveals to me he was torn between giviing up the location of her remains and remaing silent out of fear if he did say something, Shermentine amy have found some way to have him taken out. Curious he was put on parole yet he lived in a trailer in the immediate area of a prison. Also, I find it curious Shermantine is willing to cough up the location of her remains now that Herzog is dead. It seems to me he wants all of the credit.

  • Jay Samone posted at 8:58 am on Fri, Jan 20, 2012.

    Jay Samone Posts: 359

    To Steve and Brian: The article talks alittle about the reason why Herzog was released, so to make it clearer, Herzog was deemed "intellectually slow" and he claimed he "didn't understand" what was going when he was originally questioned and was a puppet of shermantine's stating he helped Shermantine out of fear of what would happen to him. After a couple of appeals, the appelate court stated he was coerced into "admitting" guilt without proper representation and his 70+ year sentence was reduced to a 14 yr manslaughter charge. Because CDCR has a day for day "good time credit" policy, he was released on parole after spending 8 yrs in prison. THAT is how it happened. He never gave up any information on any of their victims or their locations.

  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:10 am on Thu, Jan 19, 2012.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2866

    Yep Steve. How did this happen? I suspect it may have been some kind of deal Herzog made with the courts and his attorneys. He was supposed to reveal where Cindy's remains were. That's my take.

  • Steve Schmidt posted at 7:56 pm on Wed, Jan 18, 2012.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2677

    How the HELLL did this guy get paroled after less than ten years in prison for four murders?

    People do more time than that for possessing marijuana. This truly is a world turned upside down that we live in.

  • roy bitz posted at 8:47 pm on Tue, Jan 17, 2012.

    roy bitz Posts: 503

    I know water boarding has been a segment of our military pilot trainning program and I assume it still is. We can water board our military pilots but not these clowns??? Please!

  • roy bitz posted at 8:40 pm on Tue, Jan 17, 2012.

    roy bitz Posts: 503

    I agree with Joe---this guy and Shermintine should have been forced tell where the body is so at least the family could have closure and CIndy a proper resting place.
    Our legal system may be the best in the world but it needs fixing in cases such as this one.
    Waterbord Shermantine NOW-- while he is still alive.

  • Mike Adams posted at 5:36 pm on Tue, Jan 17, 2012.

    Mike Adams Posts: 1565

    Good!! Hope he likes He l l !!

  • Kevin Paglia posted at 5:33 pm on Tue, Jan 17, 2012.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2108

    I've got no problem with the death penalty for proven, real threats like this killer. Too bad Ric sees a scared husband and wife as equal to and deserving the same fate as this convicted killer.

    In my opinion the death penalty is not used enough in cases like this where proof is overwhelming. It is the old Texas joke of putting in an express line for scum who are real and extreme threats to others.

  • Joe Baxter posted at 3:58 pm on Tue, Jan 17, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1913

    They should have waterboarded this guy until he gave up the location of of Cyndi. Then they should have called me, I would have gladly kicked the chair from under his feet. Now the last puke who knows the whole story needs to be meet the same fate. A waste of oxygen and taxpayers money.

  • Patrick W Maple posted at 2:07 pm on Tue, Jan 17, 2012.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    Good...the damage he did to this family and friends was enormous...the pain and suffering continues and now will continue forever. His refusal to reveal where he and his accomplice hid the young Cindy Vanderheiden's body deserves the hightest amount of scorn that could be placed on the piece of garbage he was.



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