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President's stimulus package may provide up to $358 billion for 'shovel-ready' projects. Will Lodi, Galt see any of it?

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Posted: Friday, January 23, 2009 10:00 pm

As the state of California halts public work projects, the cities of Lodi and Galt are seeking federal funds to pay for a "wish list" of projects.

Both city councils have discussed and approved lists of projects that are "shovel-ready." President Barack Obama has used the term to define projects in his economic stimulus package that could start as soon as they received funding.

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46 comments:

  • posted at 4:15 pm on Thu, Jan 29, 2009.

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    Maggie Creamer: Bankers get the economic stimulus. Citizens never see a dime.

     
  • posted at 6:14 am on Thu, Jan 29, 2009.

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    edumacation wrote " Lodian: I agree, lets keep the economy moving by buying more houses? "Buy more real estate? That's what Donald Trump is doing. :-)

     
  • posted at 5:56 pm on Mon, Jan 26, 2009.

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    3 years as a burger king cook. currently out of work. galt will not see much of this $$. boonablis, quit crying about what the LNS prints. just stop reading the galt stories, it's that simple clownhead.

     
  • posted at 5:06 pm on Mon, Jan 26, 2009.

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    Lodian: I agree, lets keep the economy moving by buying more houses?

     
  • posted at 2:26 pm on Sun, Jan 25, 2009.

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    4 years as a Navy Diver, 32 for PG&E as a transmission equipment operator (electric) 10 years at Cingular Wireless as a field engineer!!

     
  • posted at 10:47 am on Sun, Jan 25, 2009.

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    Geez... too much testosterone in this room.

     
  • posted at 9:07 am on Sun, Jan 25, 2009.

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    Gator you worked in a field for 32 years, I thought a machine picked all the cotton these days. And another 10 years at Nextel sitting on your duff? You spent 4 years in the Navy, big deal. Try 4 years in the Marine Corps. I worked for PG&E for 33 years, started as a laborer and worked my way up to Gas Crew Foreman, being a certified welder at one time. Thanks to smart investing I retired at 55 years old, that was 14 years ago. Everything is paid for, how you doing.

     
  • posted at 8:58 am on Sun, Jan 25, 2009.

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    What Nextel wrote on Jan 25, 2009 1:37 PM--What a knee slapper!

     
  • posted at 8:58 am on Sun, Jan 25, 2009.

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    I can see the UAW going the way of the Air Controllers !!!

     
  • posted at 7:50 am on Sun, Jan 25, 2009.

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    The union isn't responsible for everything, health care coverage came about because of wage freezes during WWII. The changes the union brought would have occurred anyway, but hey Lie and misrepresentation are par for the course. The unions are achieving the end game now. Look out taxpayers you are on the hook for the union hacks, what do you think these bailouts are all about? Auto - direct to union, banks - direct to union pension funds, etc, etc, etc.

     
  • posted at 7:41 am on Sun, Jan 25, 2009.

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    Nextel, I wouldnt think you would be in the IBEW as its CWA that is the UNION forNextel I find it a little on the humorous side that you know more about talk radio thanmost people here !! You must be a closet listener its ok come out of the closetSayDo you stand on a chair to look in the mirror??? I have a million of em but your not worth effort

     
  • posted at 7:37 am on Sun, Jan 25, 2009.

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    I produce clown porn and like long walks on the beach. Where we going with this sunshine?

     
  • posted at 7:30 am on Sun, Jan 25, 2009.

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    Dogs4you you had me with 1245 but I also had 10 years in the CWA Local 9421.Nextel, so what do you do for a living??? Anything.. I worked in a field where at32 years your body was pretty well used up but we all took pride in our work. Pridein your Job, you understand that concept ??? So all in all with 4 years in the NavyIt comes to 46 years Nextel see if you can make it that long and still be productive!!

     
  • posted at 7:29 am on Sun, Jan 25, 2009.

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    Gator - What's your excuse for staying in a worthless Union for 32 years?

     
  • posted at 7:25 am on Sun, Jan 25, 2009.

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    Master Gator - No, I do not belong to the IBEW. Unlike some of You on these blogs, I don't get on here to give my bio or to posture with personal info. I just like to get mental midgets like yourself all worked up and backed into a corner that ya can't climb out of. Why don't You bring your Savage Parrot friend Brian on over to this blog and we can do an intervention on both of ya....a two for one deal if You will.

     
  • posted at 7:11 am on Sun, Jan 25, 2009.

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    Nextel, honestly do you really work for that sorry no-coverage company??? I know somepeoples wheels turn slow but your buddy Brian is crying on another blog, same paper as for my friend, that was the late 60s in Humboldt County!! The UAW wage packagewas given in testimony before the Congress and the Senate As for American Toyotaevery last part is made in AmericaThe way I see it is simple the President makes 450,000.00. No CEO, CFO Etc should come within a 100,000.00 of the President after all He is in the business to run and safe guard this Country and our interest through out the world.. What the CEOs lack in money they make up in pride in running a top rate company.. As for the Big 3 boards and CEOs they should be striped of all benefits andSalary and company stock and Fired on the spot. The same goes for any Company that isunderperforming , the Board of directors and CEO have to go, empty handed!!! As fortalk radio, you know where you can shove it

     
  • posted at 6:57 am on Sun, Jan 25, 2009.

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    K-9's 4u wrote @ 12:33pm -"Gator You stat that You were in the IBEW Local 1224 for 32 years, I got You beat by one year."So worthless that You stayed in it for 33 years. Way to better yourself and explore your options big fella!

     
  • posted at 6:41 am on Sun, Jan 25, 2009.

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    K-9 - Why don't You pick up the phone and tell the IBEW that your writing them a check asap to give back what You and them stole in over paid wages and benefits.

     
  • posted at 6:37 am on Sun, Jan 25, 2009.

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    K-9 - How much is added to each car for middle Management up to CEO compensation? Talk radio didn't do the math on that one did they??

     
  • posted at 6:33 am on Sun, Jan 25, 2009.

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    Gator you state you were in the IBEW Local 1224 for 32 years, I got you beat by one year. What a worthless union it is, right down to the shop stewart`s. The only time they showed up was to save some good for nothing`s sorry azz from being fired and contract time. True it is difficult to get a union member fired, but it can be done. When it was pay day, guess who had the longest hand out waiting for pay they didn`t deserve. As far as cars made in this country, add $2,000 each to cover the union costs and benifits, and you ask why the big 3 are going broke, better yet ask the UAW`ers, to much greed is the answer as they wanted the companies to pay for everything, not anymore.

     
  • posted at 6:09 am on Sun, Jan 25, 2009.

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    Gator - Your all over the map Brother!Who said anything about Obama on this blog? And where is the outrage with you talk radio drones when it comes to CEO down to middle Management compensation??? The CEO for GM made $15 million last year when his ship is navigating through red ink! Are You F-ing kidding me? What Union do these over paid chumps belong to Gator? The UAW has made concessions to be able to compete better, what have the people that are running the big three done besides hold out a hand? Use your imagination..Unions don't decide what cars and trucks they will build. These over paid tools at the top have had 30 yrs to take apart a Toyota or Honda to see what's there, so enough with the labor bashing.

     
  • posted at 4:48 am on Sun, Jan 25, 2009.

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    Well you whine like a little girlExample UAW wage and benefit package 75+ an hourto build cars with parts imported from all over the world American Toyota, wage andbenefit package 45+ to build the only total 100% American made car !!! That is pricingYour self right out of a job!!! I can remember when a friend of mine bragged about getting forty bucks an hour as a construction carpenter, Ill give you a guess who is doingthe job now Obama has been in Office for 4 and days now and the complaining has just started. People love to blame every one but the right one!! It was Clinton, Hold it!!It was Bush!! Check it out, no one held a gun to your head to drive Gas Guzzlers, spendyoure a** off on credit, buy that home and flip it, get a little ahead buy that 4000 sq. ft.home you couldnt afford and lose it .We helped break it we need to fix it. Its called hardWork, do you understand that concept ???

     
  • posted at 4:03 am on Sun, Jan 25, 2009.

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    I don't have respect for companies for the reason they have to cheat their own employees in order to adjust their bid to be the lowball and Lodi city staff assure that they still get these jobs time after time and the quality of their work shows it, cutting corners and being given special treatment by your Lodi inspectors. I've palyed that game for over 25 years, some of it in Lodi with Mr. Radigan, the Lodi fire marshall at that time.

     
  • posted at 3:58 am on Sun, Jan 25, 2009.

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    Lodi-Law, don't forget your favorite local contractors who are given all of Lodi's prevailing wage jobs that cheat their employees, like Cen-Cal Fire, and your local yokel contractors that pay many cash at the end of the day. Some city staff is juggling the certified payrolls along the line for these companies who are known to cheat their own employees for a dime. We know who you are, you do most of the city and county prevailing wage jobs by cheating on your bids or flat out cheating your employees. Union members make the same wge. Your little contractors, like Diede, pay everyone a different scale. Why does one electrician get $10 an hour and the owners son get $30 even though he knows less than the "real" electrician. Where do they take their apprenticeship classes at? CenCal has to use union apprentices on their prevailing wage jobs because the non-union fire protection companies don't have an apprenticeship program. To keep them from cheating and using just anyone as a fitter and paying them 10 instead of 30, this program was instituted to stop the cheating. Cencal has NLRB charges awaiting a decision because they cheated anyway and got caught.

     
  • posted at 3:51 am on Sun, Jan 25, 2009.

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    LODI-LAW - You gotta love it when people enjoy the benefits that are in place today because of Unions, trash em in the same sentence. I do agree with Gator on accountability and less hoops to jump through to fire the dead wood. The fact is though, every benefit that even non Union workers enjoy are in place because of a Union. Overtime pay, Medical, Dental, vision, Vacation pay, funeral leave, sick pay, safety standards, retirement benefits, ect... Yes, Unions have problems like everyone else but the bottom line is they are the checks and balances for wages and benefits.

     
  • posted at 3:18 am on Sun, Jan 25, 2009.

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    gator the diff between then and now is amaerica put americans to work on those projects now we will spend our money on a low bid contractor who hires illegals to work for less thus putting more americans out of work. p.s. i dont wear panties old man

     
  • posted at 3:04 am on Sun, Jan 25, 2009.

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    A couple of items here first. Unions once they were very necessary, no doubt about it. Butthey are a two edge sword. Safety and wages are the key, pricing your self out of competition is an otherThe right to fire a person is almost impossible in a union shop!!Now before you get your panties in a bunch Lodi-Law I spent 32 years in local 1245 IBEWAnd as Ive said there two sides to the union Now for the public works projects, FDRs WPA and the CCC basically built a major part of this country, The Dams,the Golden Gate and National parks and infrastructure all over this country, the benefit, it put people to workYall best get over the notion that this will be a quick fix, it will be along hard roadGone are the days of the housing boom, sure building will return but never on the scale it wasAn other thing FDR did was close the stock market for 2 weeksand rebuild the management . I can see Obama doing the same!!!

     
  • posted at 12:04 pm on Sat, Jan 24, 2009.

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    Lodi-Law I was wondering if you would come back about the men that died building Hoover Dam, your right. That was then and now is another story. With all the union rules (none then) along with state, and federal governments getting in each others way, that dam would never be built, along with Golden Gate Bridge. Those were tough times, though the cost was high in deaths, the dam was built on time and under cost, that would never happen today as safety is a main concern and might take twice the time and money in construction, as you stated the risk of building the dam were many and the men that worked on that site knew the risks and were willing to take them.

     
  • posted at 11:48 am on Sat, Jan 24, 2009.

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    Observer the Auburn Dam will never be built, one word has put that dam on hold, Earthquake. Granted it would do what you say, however there is a fault line running on or near the construction site. A major earthquake could cause a breach. All of the money that Obama would give to stimulate the economy wouldn`t be enough to build that dam and the price tag goes up by the millions every day. Best fix or bring up to standards what we have now. There are two words for the future, desalenation and nuclear power. Wind and solar are as you said little projects that cannot be counted on 24 / 7.

     
  • posted at 11:44 am on Sat, Jan 24, 2009.

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    dog4you Unions protect workers and are their voice to keep a safe work place.Ninety-six men died while building the Hoover Dam from industrial deaths, including drowning, as a result of blasting and falling rocks or slides, falls from the canyon walls, truck accidents and even being struck by heavy equipment. And, if you include other deaths from heat exhaustion and heart problemsmore than 200 men passed away while building this huge structure.

     
  • posted at 11:30 am on Sat, Jan 24, 2009.

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    Lodi-Law you can`t be serious when you say give the money to the unions. The UAW is putting itself out of business, I just read where the big 3 will never build another auto assembly plant in this country again. Ford will now make allot of there cars in Brazil due to lower costs, no surprise there. This country was built by people out of work and would do anything for a job without unions. The building of Hoover Dam is a good example, if you couldn`t do the job there were 10 men in line that would take your place. Unions had there time and place, the UAW has made many consessions to keep their jobs. Toyota, Honda continue to build assembly plants in this country while the big 3 close plant after plant.

     
  • posted at 11:20 am on Sat, Jan 24, 2009.

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    Forget these little projects. Build the Auburn Dam. That will keep people working for years and solve the flooding and water crises.

     
  • posted at 11:08 am on Sat, Jan 24, 2009.

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    One project that will cost $15 million dollars to complete is the replacement of underground electric cables. Having done this work for PG&E I find it strange that the underground conductors have to be replaced. It is possable the conductors were undersized and cannot carry the load since new homes have been built. Loadeye, here`s how it works, all the underground conductors are not direct buried, they are in conduct. The contractor excavates and installs the conduit, backfills the trench and his part of the job is complete. It is Lodi Electric`s job to pull the conductor as the trenching contractor is not qualified. Should there be a burn-out, the cable can be pulled from transformer to transformer without digging. Concerning old lines and transformers, they are replaced as needed, just like the transmission in your car, its replaced when it can no longer provide the service it was intended to do. If Lodi hires Diede Construction, it is possable they do the best job at the lowest price, you got a problem with that?

     
  • posted at 9:30 am on Sat, Jan 24, 2009.

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    loadeye... That alleged $20 Million needed to CLEAN up the Cancer polluted water wells on the East side sounds like the Most needed project worthy of funding on any wish list! The lives of humans do matter!

     
  • posted at 9:28 am on Sat, Jan 24, 2009.

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    There are Many buildings in Lodi that do not have elevators in their building. Not just Main Street, thank you very much!

     
  • posted at 8:30 am on Sat, Jan 24, 2009.

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    What ever happened to the idea that we will all get rich if we buy more houses? Everyone knows that house prices ALWAYS GO UP? Thats what the National Association Of Realtors claims---even today. Buy and sell, buy and sell. But wait! Who makes the 6% cut on every transaction?Lets try again to buy and flip our way to prosperity? Shhh--I think the real estate gurus and builders want us to forget about the real reason for this mess?

     
  • posted at 7:22 am on Sat, Jan 24, 2009.

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    If any president was truly serious about improving the economy with more than surface attempts then they would institute manditory programs in high school to teach the younger generations better money management techniques than we have learned.Teach the kids that debt is dumb. Show them the power of cash flow vs the weakness of owing someone else your entire life. And teach them a better life-time financial plan than get as many credit cards as you can. This can start by banning Credit card companies from our public schools.I firmly believe that of the billions in bailout money and financial stimulus that at least 50 billion could be spent on teaching the younger generations about smarter financial management. Otherwise we'll be in this same situation in another 15-20 years. Just long enough for people to forget what it was really like.

     
  • posted at 6:25 am on Sat, Jan 24, 2009.

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    Lodi can't even come up with $120,000 to finish the boat ramp at Lodi Lake and fix the erosion they fixed before but has gotten worse, at Pig's Lake. If they can't come up with that miserly amount and don't have the resources to borrow it, I'd say Lodi was a candidate for bankruptcy court, and redevelopment would merely speed that process when they have to borrow money for any RDA project they'd want to start. If they can borrow any money to begin with. Or maybe F&M will give them some money on their line of credit at 10% or so. Won't this RDA be great to generate all that money that won't have to be paid back until we're all dead? All your children and grandchildren won't even be able to buy one of those $75,000 eastside "estates".

     
  • posted at 4:46 am on Sat, Jan 24, 2009.

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    LodiLaw, you are so right about Diede Construction. They get nearly all of Lodi's and much of the county's work and they're paid a union pervailing wage on these projects, and the unions are very close to catching them even cheating their employees on these prevailing wage packages, too. Case Construction, who may now be defunct or using another name, and Stephens are two other companies that use the same ABC tactics to cheat their employees on these prevailing wage jobs. Looks to me like nearly all these above named projects are those just merely ignored by the city of Lodi because they were too busy providing new services and infrastructure to the new projects by Gillespie, Doucette, Browman and their asssociate gofers. Why have these above projects been ignored for new ones? Aren't those same sewers still in disrepair that allowed Katzakian's Lodi printing and Weybret's newspaper to pollute our groundwater?The old overhead electric lines are dilapidated and transformers are ancient,yet we're going to replace those newer underground cables installed by those scab contractors Lodi uses? Sidewalks not yet ADA compliant? And those rundown hotels on Main and Sacramento that still have no elevators? Pay up GOB's, not taxpayers.

     
  • posted at 3:54 am on Sat, Jan 24, 2009.

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    I sincerely hope that a few bux will be invested into FINALLY getting that much-needed concrete barrier on Highway 12, Lodi to Fairfield. Its a great "picks and shovels" job and is not rocket science to implement. Ready to go, with huge public and commercial benefit. What more can a project need to get the nod???

     
  • posted at 3:11 am on Sat, Jan 24, 2009.

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    The article stated: Project: Construct solar power generation equipment and open storage bunker coversIf anything is approved, hopefully this is one of them. Bringing down the costs we, the ratepayers, are paying for electricity, would put more money in our pockets which we could then spend; thereby giving a small boost to the economy.And I do mean bring the costs of electricity **way** down and not those ridiculous amounts that are currently gouging us.

     
  • posted at 2:58 am on Sat, Jan 24, 2009.

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    Can't galt put this story in their once a week paper????I buy the news sentinel for Lodi, not that po dunk town galt

     
  • posted at 2:55 am on Sat, Jan 24, 2009.

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    UNIONS are 3rd party negotianting agencies. They can't build anything. People built this country, most of them had nothing to do with unions. Stop spreading misinformation. Every city employee is a union member and I am sure that there will be union contractors on most of these jobs. Diede may find itself crowed out after Riech's comments the other day. I believe the Diede's are white construction workers so they won't get the money.

     
  • posted at 2:18 am on Sat, Jan 24, 2009.

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    Gives money to the unions. First why is that wrong? Unions are what built this country fairly. And second last i checked Lodi only use Diede const. and they are non-union.

     
  • posted at 12:31 am on Sat, Jan 24, 2009.

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    Talk about a HUGE waste of money. These "Project" are a complete waste of money. They will not improve the economy - Keynes has been proven wrong and here we go again. Fixing the Grape bowl does not make the economy better it just gives money to the unions. At some point the debt will matter, and whoa to those who have to deal with it.

     
  • posted at 12:29 am on Sat, Jan 24, 2009.

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    Hey Clare!!! Wake up, your crystal ball is broke. Spending money you don't have and will not get!! Hey I have a shovel for sell and will add a bridge with it. How did Galt elected him to city council?

     
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