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Posted: Friday, July 8, 2011 11:28 am | Updated: 9:13 am, Mon Jul 11, 2011.

Assemblywoman Allison Huber, D-El Dorado Hills, will bring some fellow legislators to tour the Dart Container plant in Lodi on Tuesday in an effort to try to stop her colleagues from passing a bill that would greatly restrict Styrofoam usage in California.

The tour, which will begin at 2 p.m., is part of Huber's efforts to try to stop Senate Bill 568 from reaching the governor's desk. 

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  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 10:00 am on Tue, Jul 12, 2011.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Ms Bobin stated...As for Mr. Jacobs complaining that his death wish is being taxed, well it should be
    I agree with Ms Bobin that smoking is a terrible habit and causes nothing but negative consequences.
    I also think Ms Bobin's intentions are honorable is wanting to impose a higher tax as a means to discourage smokers from buying cigarettes and to prevent medical conditions that people suffer from. However, I question the means to achieve this result. When government develops a dependence on revenue on products known to generate what is known as sin tax, it does not seem to result in changing behavior. If you look at alcohol, tobacco and any other item, demand is still there. The government does not want the behavior to change as it would result in a loss of revenue. That is why big oil, which generates more tax revenue to the government, has many legislators doing them favors. If there is an economic incentive to the legislators, they will not do something to jeopardize that income.

    I think Ms Bobin has a valid concern and debate is justified in finding solutions. I'm not sure higher taxes that generate income to our government is the answer. Seems like legislators do not do all they can to help as there is economic conflict of interest.

  • Josh Morgan posted at 11:09 pm on Mon, Jul 11, 2011.

    Josh Morgan Posts: 542

    Doug, may I suggest that you don't post anything after about 6:00 pm. It seems anything you post after that time is completely off topic and rambles with the same old cut and paste comments you make over and over again.

  • Doug Chaney posted at 10:21 pm on Mon, Jul 11, 2011.

    Doug Chaney Posts: 1232

    The "three ayemeegos" don't stand for anything but themselves, the good ol' boys that seemingly give them their orders, the well-connected, wealthy wine interests, local shoddy developers, businesses that "donate" to their campaigns, especially those with those unaccounted for $99 and less checks, unscrupulous local realtors and anyone who can line their already fat wallets. Just go back through the Lodi News-Sentinel archives sine 1987, when I came to Lodi, and see the corruption and intertwining of all the good ol' boys and past city council and management teams, past local police chiefs names and see the involvement of every issue they were involved in. You'd be surprised what you'll find in past issues that will make you wonder why you live in Lodi.

  • Joanne Bobin posted at 1:06 pm on Mon, Jul 11, 2011.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Huber already quashed this bill once in committee last year. Part of her campaign was run on her successful effort.


    If, as Mr. Baumbach and Mr. Scott suggest, she is doing this just for show - at least she's doing something. I don't see the 3 "Ayemeegos" going up to Sac to lobby against this. They're too busy passing fireworks ordinances so they can slip the taxpayers of Lodi the bill for extra police services over 4th of July weekend.

    As for Mr. Jacobs complaining that his death wish is being taxed, well it should be. Mr. Chaney and Mr. Morgan are correct about the cost to society. Just consider it repaying taxpayers for your future medical care, etc. As for "small segment?" If your numbers are correct, I wouldn't exactly call 20% a "small segment."

    My husband smoked for 50 years before a heart attack, quadruple bypass, near stroke and an implanted defibrillator finally stopped him.

  • Doug Chaney posted at 9:56 pm on Sun, Jul 10, 2011.

    Doug Chaney Posts: 1232

    Josh, don't forget the addiction and medical and psychological damages of alcohol. It's ruined many more lives than tobacco ever will and those who hide in denial and torture their families each and every day with this terrible addiction need to be taxed for their indulgences to the maximum.

  • Josh Morgan posted at 9:33 pm on Sat, Jul 9, 2011.

    Josh Morgan Posts: 542

    Doug.....with regards to you comments on tobacco......I couldn't agree more. The cost to taxpayers for tobacco related diseases is unfathomable. You can't tax tobacco enough. It should be no different than any other regulated drug.

  • roy bitz posted at 9:20 pm on Sat, Jul 9, 2011.

    roy bitz Posts: 503

    Will the rest of the world comply?

  • Doug Chaney posted at 6:32 pm on Sat, Jul 9, 2011.

    Doug Chaney Posts: 1232

    Jacobs, Ms. Huber is far from being the idiot you call her. If you are one of those cigarette and dope smokers, you should be paying death taxes on your cigarettes that are killing you slowly but surely. And alcohol should be taxed at a much higher rate, too. I quit in 1991 and I wish they'd add another $5 per pack "luxury" tax on tobacco products, mainly each pack of killer tobacco. And $10 for each bottle of wine and $20 surcharge for hard liquor. And at least $3 on beer and wine coolers per bottle. We should be waging the war on alcohol and tobacco products to line the coffers of each and every state in America. You wanna croak and drive drunk, you should pay dearly!

  • Robert Jacobs posted at 1:30 pm on Sat, Jul 9, 2011.

    Robert Jacobs Posts: 298

    Allison Huber, D-El Dorado Hills is the idiot who voted to raise taxes on smokers packs of cigarettes! I don't have a problem with raising taxes per'se but I do have a problem when law makers who pick on a small segment of society just because they don't agree with what they are doing!

    The only reason she voted for that tax is because there are only 60 million smokers in this country as opposed to 250 million non-smokers! She's a coward just the rest of the law makers who voted for that tax!

    If you are rasing taxes for what ever reason, then do it fairly across the board...

  • Doug Chaney posted at 3:13 pm on Fri, Jul 8, 2011.

    Doug Chaney Posts: 1232

    Uh, oh! I'm on board, too.

  • Jackson Scott posted at 2:51 pm on Fri, Jul 8, 2011.

    Jackson Scott Posts: 392

    Wow... I agree with Darrell. Is the world coming to an end?

    Yes, dear sweet Ali is putting up a good act trying to save the 100 jobs here in town. But she already knows the bill will pass. The Dems have the votes.

    But with the proposed redistricting doesn't Huber lose her district? She either has to move to Lodi or run for a another seat I believe. I'm guessing she does not leave upscale El Dorado Hills.

  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 1:49 pm on Fri, Jul 8, 2011.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Allison Huber, D-El Dorado Hills, will bring some fellow legislators to tour the Dart Container plant in Lodi on Monday in an effort to try to stop her colleagues from passing a bill that would greatly restrict styrofoam usage in California.

    Of course... its called political cover... the democrats who are vulerable to conservative populations will be able to say " I voted against it"... really I did...

    She is a democrat... this bill will pass... and Lodi employees can pack their bag... at least we will get the "appearance" that ... she tried... and it will work.



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