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Measure W defeated: Can funding be found to improve Lodi's Eastside?

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Posted: Wednesday, March 4, 2009 10:00 pm

After Measure W failed on Tuesday, people started suggesting ideas on how to improve the Eastside without the redevelopment funds. Ideas include raising taxes, creating improvement districts or redistributing grant funding.

Lodi rejected redevelopment with a vote of 54 percent, or 4,403 "no" votes on Measure W, with 46 percent, or 3,731 votes, for the measure, according to unofficial results.

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  • posted at 6:01 pm on Sun, Mar 8, 2009.

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    But it'll take that much longer to improve the Eastside without additional funding. Some of the wholesale changes that need to be made on the Eastside require more capital than the City can currently muster. E. Locust Street is a good example.

     
  • posted at 5:55 pm on Sun, Mar 8, 2009.

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    CAJewels... I suppose you think that they (the City) hasn't made any headway whatsoever on the Eastside and it's just as bad today as it was 10 or so years ago when you worked there? I've been throughout those same neighborhoods during the past 10 years and I can most certainly tell you that it has improved. And it'll be better in another 10 years from now. It took 20 to 30 years for the Eastside to get into the shape it was 10 years ago. It wasn't going to change overnight.

     
  • posted at 9:30 am on Fri, Mar 6, 2009.

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    For those of you that live on the eastside, I ask you, what are you doing to improve your neighborhoods? Are you calling the police? Are you involved in neighborhood watch programs? Are you calling and putting in complaints with the community improvement department? Are you following up with them to see if they are making any progress to cleanup your neighborhood? It's your neighborhood, so what are you doing to improve it? I lived on the eastside and I was very active in cleaning up the problem areas by starting a neighborhood watch program and talking to my neighbors. I got involved with the eastside improvement committee and went out and educated those people that didn't understand our ordinances and codes. The number one reason for the RDA is to clean up blighted areas. We have these codes and ordinances already on the books but aren't enforcing them and fineing those property owners that allow their properties to become rundown. Joann Mounce is doing an awesome job and I personally am behind her 100%.

     
  • posted at 12:47 am on Fri, Mar 6, 2009.

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    You know DanielH, many of us are motivated by our desire to succeed - even politicians. To state that "...4 of 5 CC members were focused on spending money for their own selfish political careers," might very well be true, except for the "selfish" part. How many of us act out of consideration for our own personal success (and that of our families)? Are politicians, regardless of what we think of them collectively, exempt from such ambition?Okay, I agree that there's a whole lot of nothing going on in many state houses along with the White House and Congress; but frankly a little more ambition aimed at individual success might not be such a bad thing. Did the four City Council members in favor of Measure W expect that their checking accounts would become healthier as a direct result of the issue passing? Were all four of these elected officials completely absent any genuinely honest consideration regarding redevelopment? Exactly what kind of "selfishness" were you referring to in your statement?Is there always something evil afoot with each vote of our City Council if it goes against what we (individually) would prefer them to decide?

     
  • posted at 3:50 pm on Thu, Mar 5, 2009.

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    I pray Mr. Hansen, Mr. Johnson Mr. King, and our future mayor Mr. Katzakian will take these blog comments to heart. This city management team has a couple of capable members who seem to have good intentions. Unfortunately, they are outnumbered by a few members who want to be "the deciders".I sincerely hope these gentlemen will take this as a wake up call.

     
  • posted at 3:22 pm on Thu, Mar 5, 2009.

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    I like the numbers in the box.No on Measure W won with about $1000 of large donations.Yes on Measure W lost with its many times that amount.

     
  • posted at 3:20 pm on Thu, Mar 5, 2009.

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    lmd571 (who is this with a new, temporary ID?)Mounce knows that the RDA can't operate without red ink debt.From the moment RDA would have been approved, RDA would have gone into debt that would have to be repaid.

     
  • posted at 3:17 pm on Thu, Mar 5, 2009.

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    ALL: The price of grapes affects the East Side.What are the affects of wineries importing frozen concentrate from Peru? I've seen some growers, if not most of them, not know if they have a contract until the day before picking.How many wineries try to negotiate permission to pick, without specifying a price?How many growers have contracts with escape clauses that reduce the price?How many times do we go to the supermarket and see grapes that aren't from Lodi?

     
  • posted at 3:14 pm on Thu, Mar 5, 2009.

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    It is interesting to me that someone (Mounce) who is supposed to be an accounting professional would oppose the designation of a Redevelopment Area (RDA). I would think that she would be among the first to understand and support the promise of new revenues pursuant to tax increment growth. She proposes the formation of improvement districts. In terms of achieving Pareto efficiency, revenues generated through tax increment growth through an RDA is more desirable than a new assessment or user fee that an improvement district would impose. Both Mounce and Hitchcock stink. I can't believe Lodi voters have kept them on the council.

     
  • posted at 3:09 pm on Thu, Mar 5, 2009.

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    4AStrongLodi: What does it take to start a business in Lodi right now?What is the application procedure for a permit? a License?This is one very important reason why East Side looks the way it does.

     
  • posted at 3:06 pm on Thu, Mar 5, 2009.

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    4AStrongLodi: CC has responsibility for attracting business.At present, 4 of 5 CC members were focused on spending money for their own selfish political careers.I scarcely doubt any one of those 4 has a slightest hint of care and concern for the economy of Lodi.Their campaigns were motivated by the RDA politics, and the voters believed into it. That's why the east side looks the way it does.

     
  • posted at 3:03 pm on Thu, Mar 5, 2009.

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    4AStrongLodi: "So, you think the funding should come from the East Side"Narrow-minded.Duh. Attract outside investment.No investor in their right mind is going to invest in the East Side right not, unless it is an attractive investment.Right now it is in its pitiful state, because investment is not justified by any forecast of profit return.Reason: It all starts at City Hall.

     
  • posted at 11:26 am on Thu, Mar 5, 2009.

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    Gee Sue, you really think it is because people do not trust you?? BINGO.How many consultants have you hired that have given Lodians nothing but worthless information? How much money has the CC already spent on redevelopment consultants alone? How much for the design of Aquatics Center that is not happening?How much for the consultants of your greenbelt that will never happen?Aren't Lodians already being charged for sewer line upkeep? Where is that money?

     
  • posted at 10:23 am on Thu, Mar 5, 2009.

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    4AStrongLodi danielh didn't say funding should come from the East Side, "Yes on W" patton1 did.

     
  • posted at 10:21 am on Thu, Mar 5, 2009.

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    Amendement: "...then ***only*** those who own property on the East Side..."should read"...then ***only*** those who own property as well as LIVE on the East Side..."No absentee slumlords to benefit from an RDA!

     
  • posted at 10:20 am on Thu, Mar 5, 2009.

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    danielh - So, you think the funding should come from the East Side, where they have less money than any for improvements? Why do you think they have the problems they do? It's not because they have tons of money and didn't spend it in their neighborhood.You need to realize that the East Side affects everyone in this City. It brings down all of our property values, the crime comes across the tracks to your neighorhoods, and it costs all of us to keep up the utilities.Measure W would have just kept our taxes here so we don't have to pay any further to improve this City. I fear now we're going to have some huge tax and fee increases.

     
  • posted at 10:15 am on Thu, Mar 5, 2009.

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    CAJEWELS wrote: It is very sad to watch the deterioration of some of Lodi's oldest homes and the history that goes with them. EXACTLY!

     
  • posted at 10:13 am on Thu, Mar 5, 2009.

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    patton1 wrote: "The time is here where we should place an aextra tax on the residents of the eastside. After all, a third of our population require half of our general fund budget. This is unfair to the rest of Lodi. Since we cant divert property tax away from the state, the money will have to come from them."An interesting thought, patton1. By this "reasoning" the next time an RDA vote comes up ***only*** those in the affected area should be allowed to vote and if it is passed, then ***only*** those who own property on the East Side would be allowed to use RDA funds while anyone who lives on the West and has rental property on the East would NOT.Geez!

     
  • posted at 10:06 am on Thu, Mar 5, 2009.

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    Why does everybody think the funding has to come from the public?

     
  • posted at 9:59 am on Thu, Mar 5, 2009.

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    mp - Mounce and Hitchcock getting highest votes in the last election is exactly what's wrong with this City. Unfortunately, our residents seem to lack the knowledge or where-withall to understand what is happening to our City. They don't care about the East Side, but it's blight is causing problems and costs for the entire City. If they understood the bigger picture, they'd see that managed growth and competent CC members could put us back on track. For now, we have blight, crime, a decreasing job-base, and decreasing City reveneue. We're on a dangerous path.And, I will be appearing on a ballot in the next 2 years, although I don't expect to win based on how this City votes.

     
  • posted at 9:30 am on Thu, Mar 5, 2009.

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    I can't tell you how relieved I am after reading Mounce's comments. I didn't realize we had revenue sources available to fund these east side projects. Boy, does that make me feel better. Obviously, she will never discuss or approve a tax increase for any redevelopment project.

     
  • posted at 9:26 am on Thu, Mar 5, 2009.

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    4 a strong lodi must live in another state. mounce and hithcok happen to be the highest vote getters in the last two elections. i hate to tell you this, but it is the men lodi does not trust. why - because we all see they are beholden to developers. you did prove a point - the people who spent time rebuilding hss (with 10 million from the city bonds and 1.2 million annually to operate) don't care about the eastside. no one at city hall does which is why it is not a priority.lastly, if you are all that and a bag a chips - you run for city council.

     
  • posted at 9:12 am on Thu, Mar 5, 2009.

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    Lastly, Joanne Mounce. You continue to show your ignorance.Hucthins Street Square raised funds because of sentimentality and it created a new way to attract people to Lodi, as well as benefit the community as a whole.I hate to break it to you, but these same donors are not going to help the East Side. They want to liev safely on the other side of the tracks and pretend it's not their problem.When are you up for re-election again? How did you get a 2nd term?Please take a macro-economics and political science class at Delta so you can at least PRETEND you know what you're talking about.

     
  • posted at 9:08 am on Thu, Mar 5, 2009.

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    Susan Hitchcock, you are the main reason for distrust of the City Council.You continue to do everything to defeat any growth, but will spend $500,000 on a gamble to see if the Armstrong Road area can remain a Greenbelt. (It's the County and will never be part of the City.)You play to big donors, like Wal-Mart and Reynolds Ranch, but you leave the small business owners out in the cold.Hmm..why is here mistrust?

     
  • posted at 9:04 am on Thu, Mar 5, 2009.

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    Yes, mp, obviously the people are ignorant.Now we can have increased taxes and fees instead of using tax money that WE ALREADY PAID that will now go to other areas of the County and State.I can't wait to see how many people change their minds when they get their $4,000-$8,000 fee for a new water meter required by the State. Not to mention MORE taxes to pay for our crumbling City that we have failed to maintain even adequately.Yes, you may have won the election, but in reality, all of Lodi lost.

     
  • posted at 8:57 am on Thu, Mar 5, 2009.

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    yeah yeah - Lodi is the loser - right patton1.you say that now.i still ask how exactly would ecomonic development help clean up the eastside?more money for the general fund vis sales tax?if the efforts of measure w did infact hit the general fund it would be gobbled up on services for the entire city instead of fixing the eastside.

     
  • posted at 8:54 am on Thu, Mar 5, 2009.

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    the people have spoken - stop being a sore looser

     
  • posted at 8:14 am on Thu, Mar 5, 2009.

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    Problem is that the funds that measure w woudl have come from property taxes already collected but sent out of town. You vote just shifted your trust to sacramento politicians instead of our local ones. Doesnt make much sense does it.

     
  • posted at 7:53 am on Thu, Mar 5, 2009.

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    I love Lodi and have seen the changes that have taken place in this town. I am thankful that I am able to live on the westside of this town but would love to help those that do live on the eastside to help clean up their neighborhoods. I also voted No on the measure due to the distrust of how these funds would be handled and allocated. It is very sad to watch the deteriation of some of Lodi's oldest homes and the history that goes with them.

     
  • posted at 7:49 am on Thu, Mar 5, 2009.

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    Continued: Unfortuantly, I was replaced because of politics. I believe if we, the citizens, formed groups again like the Eastside Improvement Committee, we could get the city employees to enforce the ordinances and regulations we already have on the books to clean up and improve the eastside. I don't write this information in anger but to let the citizens of Lodi know that we do have these ordinances and regulations but that they are not being enforced because of the fear of lawsuits from the property owners that are not maintaining their properties, most of whom are absent and really don't care as long as their rent is paid. I am a 4th generation Lodi resident and have raised my kids here.

     
  • posted at 7:49 am on Thu, Mar 5, 2009.

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    Over 10 years ago I was the Community Improvement Officer for the City of Lodi. At that time I walked Pine Street from Cherokee Lane to Sacramento Street. I documented all properties that needed improvement of some kind. Nothing was done with this documentation. I worked very hard to clean up and improve the eastside of Lodi. I did this by using the city ordinances and the uniform housing codes. I worked closely with Lodi PD and the Streets department and the fire department. I contacted absent propery owners and talked with tenants to educate them on the ordinances to clean up their properties. I had the City ordinance which was called the ugly ordinance translated into spanish and gave these ordinances to all I came into contact with during my investigations. I was told that I could not talk to the city council members about any of the problems I encountered.

     
  • posted at 7:18 am on Thu, Mar 5, 2009.

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    patton 1I thought police and fire got 60% of the general fund?

     
  • posted at 7:06 am on Thu, Mar 5, 2009.

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    The time is here where we should place an aextra tax on the residents of the eastside. After all, a third of our population require half of our general fund budget. This is unfair to the rest of Lodi. Since we cant divert property tax away from the state, the money will have to come from them.

     
  • posted at 6:47 am on Thu, Mar 5, 2009.

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    Yes, Susan, that is EXACTLY why many people voted "NO" on Measure W...we just don't trust certain members on the council to act responsibly with the tax dollars they would have been given.And then King comes along with his generous suggestion to tax us even further to build "certain projects"? The taxpayers should NOT have to fund the revival of this area. In these hard economic times, assessing more taxes is not the answer.Too bad we didn't feel like we could trust that the money would be used wisely. This could have been a good thing for the east side.....

     
  • posted at 3:04 am on Thu, Mar 5, 2009.

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    Why can't the private sector and free market provide the solution, not the taxpayers! As a person raised in the Eastside, honest people live there because of the low cost of living. Not many can afford expensive homes in affluent areas of Lodi. The government should not use taxpayers money or eminient domain.

     
  • posted at 2:46 am on Thu, Mar 5, 2009.

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    They could put this measure on the ballot again and again it will fail unless some changes are made such as adding three citizens from the affected area to the RDA and not just three CC members.But there are other ways to fund improvements to the East Side besides an RDA and JoAnne called it when she said nothing has been done because the East Side is not a priority.

     
  • posted at 2:46 am on Thu, Mar 5, 2009.

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    The Yes on W crowd had $20,000 more than those opposed; yet their excuse for losing the election is that they didn't have enough time to educate the public.The No on W crowd had much less money and the exact same amount of time as the Yes people; so what happened?This election was the situation in a nutshell - mismanagement of funds and excuses.Susan Hitchcock hit it on the head - a good majority of citizens in Lodi do not trust the CC with the amount of money involved in an RDA.

     
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