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Return of redevelopment?

Councilwoman JoAnne Mounce's plan would devote funds to infrastructure

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Posted: Saturday, May 8, 2010 12:00 am

After the defeat of redevelopment in the March 2009 election, Councilwoman JoAnne Mounce presented a different plan Friday that focuses on public infrastructure projects.

Mounce said she listened to both sides of the debate and is looking for a compromise. She discussed the basics of her redevelopment plan with the Chamber of Commerce governmental relations committee meeting.

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  • posted at 6:12 pm on Sun, May 9, 2010.


    Just4Kicks- Aha so thats it? I have met her and discussed these issues many times. But the "Joanne" responses are different than what I would expect. there is one word the REAL Joanne does not use, bit this Joanne used the word, knowing what business I am in. I think you may be correct. In either case...look at the time magazine link I posted and follow it with two more links: The Wikipedia link was written by the Chinese government---Its loaded with verifiable inaccuracies and self-serving bloat talk---You know like a Realtor saying for the tenth time--- " Imagine yourself in your own swimming pool....you can build it right here..."Also look at the OFFICIAL CITY home page. They hired actors to make the place look busy...Its so obvious that its humorous. Sort of like the "day glo" lawns in the MLS websites, when Google maps show a pile of trash and junk cars sitting on bricks on the same supposed lawn.

  • posted at 5:39 pm on Sun, May 9, 2010.


    I may be wrong, but the JoAnne responding in this blog may not be the real JoAnne Mounce. In the past her user name was "JoAnne Mounce", not just "JoAnne". I say this because the real JoAnne Mounce should know that there have been projects on the east side as well as more being planning. East Lodi Ave. reconstruction is being paid for through federal stimulus funds. These projects had to be shovel ready, meaning plans were already in place and just waiting to be funded in order to start. The worst of the bad sidewalks have been replaced and there are plans for more. There are plans to reconstruct some allies this year. Two or three phases of the replacement of aging sewer lines on the eastside have been completed in recent years. JoAnne Mounce should know this.

  • posted at 5:03 pm on Sun, May 9, 2010.


    Joanne- You implied the issue. "Brick and Mortar". Has brick and mortar increased the incomes of anyone but the same people? NO! Its the exact same scam. The idea that building structures or repairing structures will help out the economy is true only for those who are involved. Lodi needs to focus on what Lodi is known for -- Agribusiness. Not overpriced cracker boxes for those who commute to the Bay area or Sacramento for REAL jobs when they are available. The GOB in this town are not only selfish but they are myopic. Look what is happening to China with building tens of thousands of apartments in cities with NO people. Ordos, China a modern ghost town. http://www.time.com/time/photogallery/0,29307,1975397_2094492,00.htmlReal estate, builders, developers and planners take away from the economy and give only to themselves. Its true in China, the USA, Ireland, Spain, Russia, and Japan. Why don't we understand that wood, nails, stucco and promises brings DEBT not sustainable wealth (except to the GOB).We need manufacturing, services, creative businesses not the take take take of pretend housing bubbles.

  • posted at 4:46 pm on Sun, May 9, 2010.


    Joanne Thanks for responding with a heartfelt answer, but remember what I said. The California General Obligation bonds which have a higher value and status than any Lodi RDA bonds...ARE NOT WANTED. Why is this state virtually bankrupt? More bonds (loans) won't work unless they have very high TAX exempt interest. Who will pay for that. Okay push it into the future and give the pain of HIGH debt to our children and grand children.There is ANOTHER way. I read about federal and state prosecutions ALL the time in small towns that have an "I feed you if you feed me" way of doing business. The stars just didn't accidentally line up to get the mess we have. It was planned and Greed and Avarice of a few self-appointed families that are running the engine.We only have to catch ONE "mistake", and governent forensic accountants and the GOB shredders will be working overtime.It can start as small as one small Grand Jury with no "family" members onboard. Once the statements and perjury starts being uncovered, investigations by the IRS-CID or FBI would be productive.

  • posted at 4:42 pm on Sun, May 9, 2010.


    Joanne, you state that there is no money to fix the alleys, sidewalks and infrastructure. Isn't there currently a project to rebuild East Lodi Ave... and another one to rebuild alleys on the Eastside?

  • posted at 2:12 pm on Sun, May 9, 2010.


    I really hve no idea why some of you people are so opposed to redevelopment. The absolutely worst case scenario as I see it, is that money that would hve gone to the state is instead "wasted" creating jobs and putting people to work right here in Lodi! So JoAnne, you really think Blair King is just a bought and payed for figurehead for the GOB`s because he is a firm believer in redevelopment?

  • posted at 11:49 am on Sun, May 9, 2010.


    Vote NO on redevelopment omce more everyone. No means No!

  • posted at 6:48 am on Sun, May 9, 2010.


    Redevelopment allows three of our city councilmen to continue promoting pet projects with our money.Redevelopment would empower these gentlemen to continue awarding projects and money at will.I have listed here a few recent items to show why they should not be trusted to manage redevelopment.* Misrepresented the Waste Management deal as "donation". In reality, they sold a twenty one year contract for one million dollars to fund a pet project voters would not approve.*Forced residents to pay $1200 to install water meters while other cities pay these costs.* Quietly approved by 3/2 vote, a forty million dollar water treatment plant to treat unneeded river water.There are so many more examples but you get the idea. Vote NO on redevelopment.

  • posted at 3:41 am on Sun, May 9, 2010.


    Please stop trying to take our money. We said not multiple times, why do you keep asking the same question...oh that's right the purpose of govt is to push an agenda...if the people say no...keep pushing, eventually you will wear them down. Typical.

  • posted at 2:37 am on Sun, May 9, 2010.


    I wish you could use RDA monies for Police to fight gangs. But, RDA money cannot be used for operations - only brick and mortor projects. The city could build a police sub-station on the eastside, but we may not have money to staff it.

  • posted at 2:34 am on Sun, May 9, 2010.


    And because Council will continue to bring RDA forward until they get their way, I have to present a plan that protects the citizens the best way I know how. This kills me to do this. As long as city hall does not get redevelopment they will not help fix the Eastside. There is no money to fix alleys, sidewalks, public infrastructure. If I am going to lose again to 4-1, at least I can help secure the projects the citizens have asked for for over twenty five years.

  • posted at 2:28 am on Sun, May 9, 2010.


    edumacation - I agree with everything you said. I hate the idea of redevelopment. I worked hard to stop RDA in Lodi - twice. Walking neighborhoods, writing articles, and put my face to the issues - risking everything!But, I have four councilmembers fighting with all their money and friends to bring RDA to Lodi. And eventhough the citizens have said NO twice - the CC thinks the voter are just un-educated and stupid, and they know better when it comes to redevelopment. Council will continue to bring RDA until they get their way.

  • posted at 2:51 pm on Sat, May 8, 2010.


    The amount of $$$$$ spent on re-surfacing Lodi Avenue SHOULD HAVE BEEN SPENT of more Police to fight GANGS!

  • posted at 1:20 pm on Sat, May 8, 2010.


    Our city council has already wasted six hundred thousand "tax dollars" on special elections, trying to get redevelopment passed. I will continue to vote against redevelopment because I do not believe our three city councilmen are capable of managing it.I grew up on the East Side and it kills me to watch it decline, but I do not believe throwing tax dollars at it will change anything. It seems to me, the east side has become home to a lot of people that are comfortable living in unkempt surroundings.No on redevelopment until city codes are uniformly enforced and gang problems are minimized. Then we can consider redevelopment.

  • posted at 10:24 am on Sat, May 8, 2010.


    Joann Mounce- There is No such thing as the Easter Bunny. NO free MONEY and NO FREE lunch. SOMEONE WILL ALWAYS PAY---and pay dearly for the illusive "hope" that is sold by the RDA advocates.Bottom line: WHO WILL BUY THE BONDS? and why>? We buy bonds to make MONEY or profit from our investments. Where does the money come from for profits, bond salesmen and representatives, attorneys and ad nauseum layers of bureaucracy. What if the RDA bonds get too expensive? People will move away from the area and Lodi will be another ghost town drained by "get rich quick" developers, builders, Realtors and their local government cheerleaders.ITS ALL ABOUT MONEY AND who will pay the money. The power to tax is the power to destroy.Do your own research and talk to cities like Eureka who are now pounding sand because of their RDA problems.Who brought in their RDA? Does the name sound familiar. It's nothing but a political pork barrel based on false hope and promises for a few selfish developers and builders.

  • posted at 3:28 am on Sat, May 8, 2010.


    If you fix it up and make it nice, people will come," she said."If you fix it up and make it nice, it will become un-nice again, and you will have wasted taxpayer money, again. The east side is a wasteland of ugly business fronts, drugs, gangs, violence, filth, junk cars and illegals. Believing that "nice businesses" will locate there if you redevelop infrastructure won't make it happen. Water seeks its own level.

  • posted at 3:22 am on Sat, May 8, 2010.


    Save your postcard. I already voted. I though King was out of here. Same old thing, worded much differently.



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