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Posted: Monday, January 9, 2012 12:00 am | Updated: 6:05 am, Mon Jan 9, 2012.

Activists will march on Capitol Mall to the State Capitol steps to support universal health care from noon to 1 p.m.

There will be several speakers, including state Sen. Mark Leno, D-San Francisco, and physicians.

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13 comments:

  • Joe Baxter posted at 9:43 am on Tue, Jan 10, 2012.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1843

    Kurt Roberts posted: "But at least the illegal immigrant and her son in the waiting room were treated for free!!!! "
    Mr. Roberts, they didn't get it for "free", YOU paid for it just like everyone who has the finances or insurance does.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 6:56 pm on Mon, Jan 9, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Kevin stated...Let's create a free market in the healthcare system where we can, line by line, agree to, refuse or opt for a cheap option. THEN costs will go down.

    Good point Kevin...

    the inflated costs for services are a problem. However, There are over 500 mandates ( mental health is just but one). Rates could be dramatically reduced if we could select what we want insured.

    A good example is auto insurance. We can currently select the bare minimum and insure liability coverage only with 15,000 minimum and have very low premiums.... Can you imagine how expensive car insurance would be if minimum coverage was 5,000,000 face and had to cover comp and collision... and all people must be covered at the same rate no matter their driving record....
    That is what health insurance companies are facing by government mandates... it is not reasonable nor fair.

     
  • Kurt Roberts posted at 6:35 pm on Mon, Jan 9, 2012.

    Kurt Roberts Posts: 55

    I was recently charged over $3,000 for what ended up being 2 band-aids, a 5 minute consultation from a smarmy Dr,. and a gob of neosporin at Lodi Memorial. But at least the illegal immigrant and her son in the waiting room were treated for free!!!!

    This is the absolute honest truth!!!!!

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 5:48 pm on Mon, Jan 9, 2012.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 1982

    First and easiest way to drop healthcare costs is to create a free market for supplies. After a recent surgery I was charged for five imitation Ace Bandage wraps at $50+each. I could go to the store and buy them for $3 each. total charge for the first surgery was $27k. That was for am hour surgery and three hour recovery.

    Let's create a free market in the healthcare system where we can, line by line, agree to, refuse or opt for a cheap option. THEN costs will go down. THEN I will support a non-mandated, government backed insurance program for those who need it.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 4:50 pm on Mon, Jan 9, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405


    Jaroslaw Waszczuk made a great post. His thoughts are sound and I hope he searches for the answers to his questions.

    In my opinion, Obamacare is a stranglehold on private sector jobs and businesses in United States. It is a significant part of our economy and will lead to more government regulations and control that suck the life and enthusiasm out of creative independent movers and shakers in our economy. There is one party calling for the repeal of Obamacare... and that would be the republicans...

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 4:38 pm on Mon, Jan 9, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Jason Wilkins posted at 10:14 am on Mon, Jan 9, 2012.If Universal coverage is not the correct answer, we need to keep working toward something that will be.

    Jason made a great observation that the current health care system is too expensive and most people cannot afford it. The reason the costs are so high is government healthcare mandates that requires too many things to be covered. For example, the mental health parity act of 2010 requires all insurance companies to cover mental health as any other illness. Rates would drop dramatically if a person could exclude mental health coverages from their policy, but they cannot.

    By the way Jason... A husband and wife age 58 can buy a major medical plan
    ( Anthem PPO) for $364.00 per month total. On a million dollar claim, the maximum out of pocket is $8,000. Can you imagine how low the premiums would be if mental health was optional. Universal Healthcare is not the answer... getting government out of controlling healthcare is.

     
  • Robert Chapman posted at 3:20 pm on Mon, Jan 9, 2012.

    Bob Chapman Posts: 997

    Oops, last post to wrong thread......

     
  • Robert Chapman posted at 3:16 pm on Mon, Jan 9, 2012.

    Bob Chapman Posts: 997

    JOANNE, the more you ramble, the dumber you sound. I took the time to research the information in my post. I am betting YOU didn't even bother to look anything up to see if it is fact or fiction. Since it was a negative about your almighty Obama regime, you ASSUMED it was all speculation. You continually amaze me with your ignorance, But, please keep it up, I find it highly amusing.

     
  • Jaroslaw Waszczuk posted at 12:40 pm on Mon, Jan 9, 2012.

    Jaroslaw Waszczuk Posts: 1

    You are right Mr. Baumbach . The Universal Health care sounds like utopia and is attached to the socialism or communism ideology . However, what is the alternative if the unemployment is outrageously high and all jobs are in China or other foreigner countries. The medical coverage is attached to work place. Today, forty eight million people in USA are on the food stamps ( You know who is paying for ?) and other forty eight millions are living the "American Dream " BROKE because of something like "Globalization " . This today's situation is like invitation for Bolshevik Revolution in USA . Once I lived through the communism than and I don't like to have such experience again in my life . What we need is a real leadership in USA which will turn around the situation and USA will go back to principles of finding fathers and the US Constitution,
    We don't have two parties anymore. We have two mafias selling the country left and right and it is the more important problem than the Obama's Health Care.

     
  • Robert Chapman posted at 12:15 pm on Mon, Jan 9, 2012.

    Bob Chapman Posts: 997

    These people define "justice" as gimme everything I want/need and let someone else pay for it. One of the big reason health care is so expensive is because millions of dollars in uncollected fees that go unpaid to doctors, hospitals and medical institutions annually. Just as retail stores figure a percentage of theft in their selll prices, the medical community figures in these uncollected funds from deadbeats who think they are owed free services. Thank you stupid Americans for allowing me to have all these babies and health care for FREE.....

     
  • Ann Winters posted at 11:23 am on Mon, Jan 9, 2012.

    Ann Posts: 27

    Jason, don't give up. Keep checking. Try Humana, I understand they are expanding their options now. See what they have to offer for family coverage. I am really happy with my plan.

    II know that finding affordable coverage is a challenge, however, rather than give in to a plan that will make us wait long term for urgent care. Keep checking.

    My son lived in Seattle for years, and he said the doctors’ offices and hospitals were filled with Canadians' desperate for help with urgent life threatening illnesses. Canada is Universal health care. Keep trying Jason.

     
  • Jason Wilkins posted at 10:14 am on Mon, Jan 9, 2012.

    Jason Wilkins Posts: 32

    I may be misinformed, but I am looking for something to change from our current health care system. I changed jobs recently and looked extensively for health care coverage for myself and my family. Currently I pay $900+ a month for just medical coverage. I researched Kaiser, Anthem Blue Cross, Aetna, Western Health Advantage as well as a couple brokers. It is very easy for me to understamd why families choose not to have medical coverage and that is not a good long term plan. The non insured folks end up costing us all in the end. There has to be a better way. If Universal coverage is not the correct answer, we need to keep working toward something that will be.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 7:17 am on Mon, Jan 9, 2012.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    How sad that there are people so misinformed that they perceive that universal health care is a good thing.

     
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