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Posted: Monday, May 2, 2011 6:14 am | Updated: 5:57 am, Tue May 3, 2011.

Osama bin Laden, the mastermind behind the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks that killed thousands of Americans, was slain in a firefight Sunday with U.S. forces in Pakistan, ending a manhunt that spanned a decade. Here are some local reactions from Sunday night after President Barack Obama announced the news:

Taj Khan, Lodi Muslim

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  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 10:42 am on Mon, May 9, 2011.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Larry Hamilton posted at 9:30...all the republicans have to offer are a bunch of hillbillies …
    Mr Hamilton... very educational to see what the “left” perceives... them there re pub lick kans doe nt stan a chanssss nxt ee lek tion... gess that means O bomb A is a shew in... burp... belch

     
  • Larry Hamilton posted at 9:30 am on Sat, May 7, 2011.

    Larry Hamilton Posts: 52

    Fact Obama got him. Fact Bush and Dr. Evil failed. Fact Obama is our President for six more years. All the republicans have to offer are a bunch of hillbillies and most of the people on this board would rather have them instead of President Obama I wonder why?

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 2:44 pm on Thu, May 5, 2011.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Doug... Ive heard so many different stories that it almost seems like it is intentional for some unknown reason.... odd

     
  • Doug Chaney posted at 2:55 pm on Wed, May 4, 2011.

    Doug Chaney Posts: 1232

    Darrell, I wonder if those terribly noisy helicopters had silencers on their engines so they possibly couldn't be heard that early in the morning? The story lines seem ybe changing often, depending on who the spinner is.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 1:57 pm on Wed, May 4, 2011.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Eric stated...Obama found him and every history book from now on will say that the many who orchestrated 9/11 was killed under Obama's watch.

    You never know Eric.. who knows... maybe new information will surface that changes your reality...
    Lets see... what happens if... Obama turns out to be good friends with Bin Laden or people close to him... Bin Laden was tired of being locked up in his compound and devised a plan to gain his freedom.... fake his death .. make the world believe he is dead... and disappear to a life of luxury...

    If you look at what just happened... quick burial... no pictures... secrecy , … makes good sense since our forces without military opposition ( happened within eye sight of a military base) went in without a problem or confrontation... almost like it was planned with Bin Ladens blessing... who knows... maybe Bin Laden is enjoying a beer at a presidential beer summit... you just think he is dead.

    It all seems to clean , convenient and orchestrated... obama is very intelligent and has many abilities.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 7:05 pm on Tue, May 3, 2011.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1460

    wow Brian with all of the actions Obama has taken to how did you put it b1tch-slapped the anti-war left you would think the right would be in love with him. except for the fact that your list of accomplishments is a bit incorrect. Yes on gitmo, terrorist prisons like to see you prove that one. Afghanistan still there, Iraq no so much so. Libya really, minor support for people seeking democracy and the only expansion in Pakistan is the killing of osama I think the left are just fine with that one. Maybe the right don't no a good thing when they see it.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 4:27 pm on Tue, May 3, 2011.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1460

    Brian maybe I was a bit unclear it was not Rush but his devoted fans I was speaking of when I mentioned the extreme right. I listened to Rush's show in it's entirety on Mon. most of the callers on his show were very concerned that Obama's success in regards to Osama's death would guarantee Obama a second term. They could not celebrate this victory. I listened to Rush for a few minutes today and one caller actually said that Obama was worse for this country than Osama bin Laden. As far as Bush is concerned he had seven years to find Osama and failed. Obama found him and every history book from now on will say that the many who orchestrated 9/11 was killed under Obama's watch.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 10:07 am on Tue, May 3, 2011.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    I was wondering why the paper reported hospitals everywhere are overflowing with patients resulting from inexplicable bus accidents... now I know.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:40 am on Tue, May 3, 2011.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2814

    Frankly,
    I've lost count how many times Obama has pandered to a given group of people and then ultimately throws them under the bus.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:31 am on Tue, May 3, 2011.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2814

    http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/if-obama-had-listened-to-the-anti-war-left-would-obl-be-dead-today/question-1751441/


    Barack Obama has once again b1tch-slapped the anti-war left and it is delicious!

    Not only has Barack Obama vindicated George Bush by:

    -Keeping Guantanamo Bay open
    -Keeping secret CIA terrorist prisons open
    -Staying at war in Afghanistan
    -Staying at war in Iraq
    -Expanding the war to Libya
    -Expanding the war to Pakistan
    -Using military kill teams to shoot terrorists in the face...women too!

    Barack Obama had done all of the above and more!

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:16 am on Tue, May 3, 2011.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2814

    Eric wrote:

    I was listening to old Rushbo today and I can't tell who's more upset by bin Laden's death the extreme right or al-Qaeda. This is a great victory for America but the extreme right can't celebrate because it somehow may help Obama. Pathetic

    -Eric,
    You're being intellectually dishonest on purpose. For you to conclude Rush would not want to celebrate Osama's death is ridiculous. And, are you to conclude Obama
    did not time this event for political gain? I think this is what Rush was eluding to. I find it quite pathetic that you would go as far as saying Rush would not give Obama credit where credit is due. How many times the left still doesn't credit Bush for laying the growndwork after 911 in order for Obama to kill Osama one could write a book on.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 6:56 am on Tue, May 3, 2011.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2814

    Joanne wrote:

    Mr. Barrow..great commentary. Some will never accept Obama as our president and will seek far and wide for nonsense that, in their minds, backs their opinions.

    -Rarely is there someone here on these bloggs who doesn't like Obama say he is not capable of making good decisions. Unlike those who disliked
    Bush.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 5:08 am on Tue, May 3, 2011.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Eric Barrow posted at 7:58 pm ...Mr Maple, That's Great but how do you explain the fighter jet...

    Mr Barrow... I think it would be more interesting to see what you think is the significance of the fighter jet.... as you brought up the issue... and why you think what you think... what is your evidence supporting your conclusion... I think you simply watched TV (MSNBC or CNN).. listened to commentators interpret the event, and swallowed it hook line and sinker... Maybe you can provide the documentation so as to distinguish yourself from gossip.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 8:37 pm on Mon, May 2, 2011.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    Off-topic, but provoked...what's you're next comment, Mr. Baumbach? Nah-nah-na-na-nah?

    Mr. Barrow..great commentary. Some will never accept Obama as our president and will seek far and wide for nonsense that, in their minds, backs their opinions. Just a sign of fear, loathing, desperation, hate, ignorance, and the desire to feel superior. As if......

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 8:33 pm on Mon, May 2, 2011.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Pat... point well made... thanks for the perspective!

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 8:33 pm on Mon, May 2, 2011.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    eric... your being very silly.... I read his article... It seemed to match what I had read previously...
    If you think his facts are wrong, please correct it. Why you are attempting to make this about me is beyond me.... Barack Obama supports drones... many cases like this has been reported in many news outlets... this is just but one ... It also happened under the Bush administration ... maybe if you spent 15 minutes, you could educate yourself so you can comment on this intelligently.... if you have any information that anything is not correct, I welcome it. Did you read about Obama's drone that killed a US soldier that I quoted below... that should be enough alone to make my point....
    but it seems like you are more concerned with me than with the points... like I said... silly.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 7:58 pm on Mon, May 2, 2011.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1460

    Mr Maple,
    That's Great but how do you explain the fighter jet, wouldn't a simple news conference been enough. After all my comment was in response to Joe's criticism of Obama's press conference.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 7:53 pm on Mon, May 2, 2011.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1460

    Darrell the story you sited is literally 6 paragraphs long and one of the six contains a few statistics, which may be correct. The other five paragraphs are political analysis I can’t really prove them right or wrong they are just opinion after all Jason is a political analysts. My comment is not so much about Jason but about your use of his work as reference and your use of a theorist in making your point.

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 7:37 pm on Mon, May 2, 2011.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    DB: DB...it does not take a lot of guts to order someone else to kill someone...people do it everyday. Let us put the praise at the feet of the brave young men who actually accomplished the mission.

    Mr Barrow: I suggest you read the comment of the Navy Officer in another thread...the banner was there because the ship had completed it's tour and was, as was traditional, flying of the banner on their way home.

    Joe Bax: VERY good point about the reaction to Saddam H. by the Left and the lamestream media.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 6:42 pm on Mon, May 2, 2011.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Eric stated... Darrell,you recently stated that you “do not deal in theory like many professors do....Then today you quoted the work of Steve Ditz. Antiwar,com list Steve Ditz as a political analyst. Can you explain how an economist is a theorist but a political analyst is not …

    Eric … Im not sure if you are pulling my leg or not... but I will answer assuming you are serious... This man wrote an article citing facts and figures pertaining to war... he was not speaking in theory but reporting on what happened … Paul Krugman is a brilliant man who is an economist.... If he reported on economic conditions that already happened, no problem... but much if his work is in future concerns... since future is not certain, it is theory.
    In addition.. please do not discredit this man because he is not well known... if you think his facts are wrong... say it... what facts did he state that are not accurate?

    As far as Obama... I give him high praise for finishing the job the was mostly done by Bush.... He was gutsy, tough and made a good decision in what he did... My beef is with the extreme hypocrites that are his support base... the gutless people who call Bush a murderer but not Obama... In my view, both men did the right thing....and neither should be held in contempt for the war effort.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 6:16 pm on Mon, May 2, 2011.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1460

    Bush didn't hold a news conference he simply flew in on a fighter jet with a mission accomplished sign draped across an aircraft carrier. Bush had seven years to get him but he put his focus on a misguided war in Iraq.

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 6:07 pm on Mon, May 2, 2011.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1460

    I was listening to old Rushbo today and I can't tell who's more upset by bin Laden's death the extreme right or al-Qaeda. This is a great victory for America but the extreme right can't celebrate because it somehow may help Obama. Pathetic

     
  • Eric Barrow posted at 6:03 pm on Mon, May 2, 2011.

    Eric Barrow Posts: 1460

    Darrell
    you recently stated that you “do not deal in theory like many professors do... I deal in observing the world around me and experience.” Then today you quoted the work of Steve Ditz. Antiwar,com list Steve Ditz as a political analyst. Can you explain how an economist is a theorist but a political analyst is not? Also Steve Ditz entire bio state that he is the editor of antiwar.com (a pretty obscure website) and that he graduated with a B.S. from Saginaw Valley State University. You would discount Paul Krugman but use this joker as a source? Are you intentionally setting yourself up for ridicule? Cause you’re making it pretty easy.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 5:54 pm on Mon, May 2, 2011.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1843

    Joanne, yep, I watched the same broadcast. He made it sound as though nobody was even trying to find this OBL before he was elected. THEN, HE gave the order to "find him". Just because it went down on "his watch", he used this occasion to grandstand. I don't recall Bush holding a special TV interupt to declare they captured Hussein.

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 5:52 pm on Mon, May 2, 2011.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    Ms Pattye: The US has known where this creep was for many years. Patience and persistence is a virtue or those who understand military tactics. It is ALWAYS the politics that get in the way and then when the next election comes up they send in the SEALS...who, unlike the clowns we have in DC, know what to do. This could have and should have been done when Clinton was in office. The radical Left would have screamed, stamped their feet and called Ol' W every name in the book...just ask Dan Rather...if he had done it....of course now that their annoynted one has pulled the trigger, we shall see how history writes this continuing saga...and who continues to pay at the pump.

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 5:46 pm on Mon, May 2, 2011.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 1906

    To address the issue as to why it took so long to get OBL. From what the news said the facility OBL was killed at was designed with the intent of hiding the man and was surrounded with strong OBL supporters. I suspect that getting intelligence on such a location that is accurate is difficult, to say the least. There are very bad men here in the US that have hidden in our own backyard for longer than OBL did half way around the world. Smart, resourceful men with supporters can hide for a very long time.

    The skeptic in me wonders if the current gas prices hadn't been so high if the order to go in would have even been given. But now in the mist of dropping approval ratings because of the gas prices a major "political" victory upping approval ratings. But this is a small part in me (the skeptic part) and I strongly hope that this decision would have been made no matter the approval ratings. And before anyone comments on that, i would have the same thought if it was a republican polluting the oval office

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 4:49 pm on Mon, May 2, 2011.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Patti stated...Personally I feel the death of this vile creature is way past due and wonder why this same intelligence wasn't able to be garnered while your precious "W" was in office.
    Patti... couldn't agree more with your statement about bin laden... but as for as Renowned... I cannot claim that... sure... I have posted many opinions... but.. nothing special... Ms Bobin on the other hand... has posted many things that makes her special... thus renown...as far as George W.... he was not precious to me.... I do think if he ( and the generals) were not shackled by the democrats and the news media... things would have been very different … Obama fortunately does not have the same restraints.

    Ms Bobin... If you do not want me to respond to you … as you stated...“As you know, Mr. Schmidt, certain posters on this site must babble on with what they perceive as intelligent input for no other reason that to have a presence here”... then simply do not make the original statement for me to respond to in the first place.... its simple. And as far as maturity... if in the analogy I am 5 years old... then you would be about 10 years prior to birth... maybe 15.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 4:20 pm on Mon, May 2, 2011.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    What are you, Mr. Baumbach, like 5 years old? Time to drop the "I'm rubber, you're glue" act and grow up...really.

     
  • Pattye Nelson posted at 4:17 pm on Mon, May 2, 2011.

    Pattye Nelson Posts: 29

    Darrell,

    At 4.5 times the number of posts as Joanne, it would appear you are the "Renowned blogger". Either that or someone who really has nothing better to do.

    Personally I feel the death of this vile creature is way past due and wonder why this same intelligence wasn't able to be garnered while your precious "W" was in office.

    Keep your eyes and ears open all and be safe out there.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 1:17 pm on Mon, May 2, 2011.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    Ms Bobin stated...As you know, Mr. Schmidt, certain posters on this site must babble on with what they perceive as intelligent input for no other reason that to have a presence here.

    Steve... its not often a Renowned blogger, as ms Bobin is, offers self-critique .. we are blessed. But I must add... it is not only for this, but to shame others who she feels deserve it... I think that is what she stated in another post.
    Thank you for admitting your motives Ms Bobin... your honesty is refreshing.

     
  • Joanne Bobin posted at 12:45 pm on Mon, May 2, 2011.

    Joanne Bobin Posts: 4488

    I wonder if Mr. Baxter was watching the same Obama that I was watching last night. I think Obama was giving a huge amount of credit to the intelligence community, our armed forces throughout the Middle East and their families, not to mention the 9/11 families.

    How else would you like the President to say the phrases, "I was given information...," "I signed the order," etc.?

    As you know, Mr. Schmidt, certain posters on this site must babble on with what they perceive as intelligent input for no other reason that to have a presence here.

    And I wonder if they will use the same "studio" to film the fake bin Laden massacre that was used for the fake Moon landing?

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 11:34 am on Mon, May 2, 2011.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405


    Steve stated....I am sure Darrell and others on the extreme right would prefer that our hunt for terrorists like Bin Laden stopped at the Pakistani border...

    Steve thanks much for separating my name from " others in the extreme right"... my only concern is that you... and the far left... are consistent in treating Obama and Bush exactly the same... if either are responsible for innocents killed... Since Obama pushed hard for predator drones, and since these drones killed many innocent people... I am waiting for the left to announce that Obama is a murderer... as they did Bush...I am afraid that the only thing that will be printed will be similar to what you stated... “thank goodness our President has "more" testicular fortitude”... question... more than whom?

     
  • Steve Schmidt posted at 11:01 am on Mon, May 2, 2011.

    Steve Schmidt Posts: 2239

    I am sure Darrell and others on the extreme right would prefer that our hunt for terrorists like Bin Laden stopped at the Pakistani border.

    Thank goodness our President has more testicular fortitude.

    God Bless America!

     
  • Doug Chaney posted at 10:17 am on Mon, May 2, 2011.

    Doug Chaney Posts: 1232

    Very good points brought up by all commentors. Mr. Randall posed a question that brought these comments that I found very interesting. The main point is, Bin Laden is dead and Mr. Dockter and Darrell are spot on with their points about moving on but yet not lowering our guard. One should never assume there are plenty of capable replacements drooling to replace Bin Laden.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 10:17 am on Mon, May 2, 2011.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    I too am thankful that our military succeeded in ending the pursuit, successfully, of Bin Laden … but it does come at a price... a steep price...
    According to Jason Ditz, at antiwar.com, The US launched 44 distinct drone strikes( with Obama's approval) in Pakistan in 2009, far more than in previous years. He also stated that the vast majority of the deaths, around 700 according to one estimate, have been innocent civilians. With such a massive civilian toll and so little to show for it...
    On June 22( according to Dias), the US struck at a house officials called a “suspected militant hideout,” burying a few locals inside. When others rushed to the scene to rescue them, they launched another missile, killing 13 apparently innocent Pakistanis. When they held a funeral procession on June 23, the US hit that too, ostensibly on the belief that Baitullah Mehsud might be among the mourners. He wasn’t, but the attack killed at least 80 more people...

    recently, Marine Staff Sgt. Jeremy Smith of Arlington, Texas... was killed by one of Obama's approved drones... The question I have is will the left accuse Obama of murder like they did George Bush... for all the innocent men, women, and children that died...or will it be perceived as an unfortunate causality of an ugly war...
    This man's father does not hold Obama or the military responsible for his son's death...
    DARE THE “LEFT” BE CONSISTENT??? if so, they should be very angry and disappointed in Obama... like they were Bush...

    http://news.antiwar.com/2010/01/02/us-killed-700-civilians-in-pakistan-drone-strikes-in-2009/

    Antiwar.com is one project of it's parent foundation, the Randolph Bourne Institute

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 9:41 am on Mon, May 2, 2011.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1843

    Bob, you are correct. Extremist can do whatever they want, we can't. They have learned to use our own Constitution and laws AND "political correctness" against us. Burn a few Korans, desecrate a few bodies, fight like THEY fight and perhaps they will get the message.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 9:37 am on Mon, May 2, 2011.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1843

    You have to love how Obama takes credit for this. Unbelievable. I watched last nite as he held his ego conference and used the word "I" over and over again. To listen to him tell it, he single-handedly was responsible for this event. Gee, NOBODY was looking for OBL BEFORE he became the WHO (White House Occupant)? If my memory serves me, Bush like the word "WE" a lot more than BHO.

     
  • Darrell Baumbach posted at 9:19 am on Mon, May 2, 2011.

    Darrell Baumbach Posts: 9405

    If I were a person of Muslim faith and I was in a situation in USA where my spouse
    was really angry with me... I would be worried.... time to sleep with one eye open.
    Now that it has been established ( and deemed reasonable) that it very important to honor Muslim tradition so as not to rock the boat in the Muslim world (look what happened with an unknown man that threaten to burn a Koran) .... just think... the spouse could be killed (an accident of course)... buried at sea ( called hiding the evidence), all with in 24 hours... if questioned by the police, the person's attorney could defer to president Obama who thinks this tradition , in our national interest, should be followed.... How can you argue against Obama... he has spoken... it must be accurate, true and reasonable.... so its time to do like MSNBC does so often when it comes to Obama's decisions and policy... be quiet, do not ask questions, and accept it... move on

     
  • Bob Smith posted at 9:01 am on Mon, May 2, 2011.

    Bob Smith Posts: 128

    Joe: If by "they" you mean the US government: We captured Saddam, showed to the world that we had him and that he was no longer a danger. Remember that there were still people that believed that Saddam had power and control, and the photos of him (still alive) showed that he was a weak and powerless man.
    BUT, we did not kill him. He was tried, convicted, and hanged by Muslims in Iraq. He was under their control, whatever happened to him regarding his death and disposal of body was controlled by Muslims, not by the US.
    If by "they" you mean the Muslims mentioned in the above paragraph, then I can only assume its because "they" can disregard any of their laws they want to, as long as nobody else disregards their laws. It's okay for them to burn our Bibles, but it's not okay for us to burn their Koran.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 8:22 am on Mon, May 2, 2011.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2814

    I am glad we finally got him. We must remain vigilant, though. Undoubtedly there are terror cells here in America loyal to Al Qaeda. This is not the time to be lowering our guard.

     
  • Joe Baxter posted at 8:12 am on Mon, May 2, 2011.

    Joe Baxter Posts: 1843

    Bob, if that is correct, then why didn't they have any problems splattering Saddam Hussein all over the world via internet?

     
  • Bob Smith posted at 7:22 am on Mon, May 2, 2011.

    Bob Smith Posts: 128

    The last thing the US wants to do is raise the ire of Muslims by mistreating the body or not treating it in accordance with Islamic belief, which says that a body must be buried within 24 hours.
    We all know what happened when the minister in Florida burned the Koran, how would the extremist Muslim community react if Bin Laden's body was defiled?
    Put aside the doubts and believe that proper identification was done and recorded.
    And yes, I see the disparity in the way we treat this body as compared to how the bodies of our servicemen are treated, dragged through the streets in Mogadishu.

     
  • John Randall posted at 7:06 am on Mon, May 2, 2011.

    John Randall Posts: 21

    "Buried at Sea"....just hours after the "killing". Highly suspect.
    Think about it- this elusive, mercurial man is finally killed...and the only physical proof is eliminated just hours later. No forensics, no study. Why? I, for one, find this VERY weird.

     
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