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San Joaquin Farm Bureau opposes deli at Viaggio Winery in Acampo

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Posted: Sunday, January 6, 2013 7:13 pm | Updated: 6:43 am, Tue Jan 8, 2013.

The San Joaquin Farm Bureau Federation says a plan by Viaggio Winery to add a deli on its farm violates the state’s Williamson Act, which protects agricultural land from being sold for urban uses.

The Farm Bureau is asking the San Joaquin County Board of Supervisors to overturn  the county Planning Commission, which unanimously approved the deli on Oct. 18.

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8 comments:

  • Simon Birch posted at 7:53 am on Wed, Jan 9, 2013.

    Simon Birch - Online Manager Posts: 149 Staff

    Pat, and everyone: It looks like comments viewed on smartphones and tablets (e.g. iPhones, iPads) are not showing real names in some cases. For example, I'm looking at the "kitties" comment below on a MacBook Pro and I see her real name. I'll try to get this fixed ASAP.

    Edited by staff.

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 11:30 pm on Tue, Jan 8, 2013.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    Kittie: Please use your real name...for all we know you may be the owner. Laws are made to protect you and your neighbors as well . What if a neighbor wanted to put a garbage dump next to your $2M home...or maybe a concert hall...or an airport? What if a venue hindered your business costing you monies or time or thousands in insurance premiums or damages? What if it put you out of business?

    Free is not free in this country...unless you are on the receiving end. People always want to change the rules to suit THEIR vision especially when they find out their VISION was short sighted...or was inappropriate. It is called risk. Part of that risk is how the public sees you and part is how the govt regulates you. Sorry, but a winery is not a veggie/fruit stand/deli/wedding hall/bakery/resort/olive oil depot.

     
  • Dolores Cooper posted at 10:05 pm on Tue, Jan 8, 2013.

    kitties Posts: 1

    Times are tough and will be getting tougher. People are striving to come up with new and/or creative ideas on how to survive. It's their property--we WERE a free country under The Constitution--let people make their own decisions as to what they do on THEIR property. We already have too many Ag. controls and restrictions. Many of these Ag. and government groups have become so liberal they no longer support the farmer--they are far-overreaching over their original intent. This is the last free Country. Please leave us alone. Go control something else in another country!!!!

     
  • Ted Lauchland posted at 11:41 pm on Mon, Jan 7, 2013.

    Ted Lauchland Posts: 253

    Mr. Birch, please delete the above post of mine that is in references to Viaggio's permit. I now believe they are inaccurate.

     
  • Ted Lauchland posted at 10:36 am on Mon, Jan 7, 2013.

    Ted Lauchland Posts: 253

    I have believed that creating a winery - as an ag related process has and will be a good thing. It , however, has to be contained completely within ag controls and restrictions. Traffic, parking, noise, neighbors and typical problems (tendancies) the people create when they are present not only have to be addressed but physically accounted for as well. The list is extensive.Wineries have existed in farm areas for a long time only one every couple miles or so.We have many now to account for.
    Zoning is people management for specific reasons.

     
  • Ted Lauchland posted at 10:08 am on Mon, Jan 7, 2013.

    Ted Lauchland Posts: 253

    If you look at what the Williamson Act rules are they go with the land. Opting out has it rules as well. It would normally take tens years once you declare you want out to pay the tax benefits back before it would be finished. Opting out immediately means you pay all the monies back now.

     
  • Patrick W Maple posted at 4:15 am on Mon, Jan 7, 2013.

    Pat Maple Posts: 1805

    I wonder how much more in insurance premiums the neighbors will have to pay for all of the hazards caused by an additional 20,000 vehicles entering and leaving such a constricted area. How many other venues will be started by other property owners? How many have already been turned down? Is river rafting next? They need to fix their existing problems before creating new ones.

     
  • roy bitz posted at 11:21 pm on Sun, Jan 6, 2013.

    roy bitz Posts: 494

    Seems to me new owners should be allowed to opt out of the Williamson act tax break if the business plan changed when ownership changed. The tax break should not be carried over to new owners unless all provisions of the act are agreed to and adhered to by new owners.
    Viaggio is a beautiful place but tax payer support----- I don't think so.

     
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