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Posted: Wednesday, June 8, 2011 12:00 am | Updated: 10:37 am, Wed Jan 30, 2013.

Bishop Chester Talton of the Episcopal Diocese of San Joaquin announced on Tuesday that the blessings of same-gender relationships and domestic partnerships will be permitted in Episcopal churches from Lodi to Bakersfield beginning Sunday.

Talton said the blessings will be limited to lifelong committed relationships with "fidelity, monogamy, mutual affection and respect, careful and honest communication," according to a news release by the Modesto-based diocese.

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22 comments:

  • Kim Lee posted at 11:31 pm on Wed, Jun 29, 2011.

    Kim Lee Posts: 1798

    WWJD

     
  • Kim Lee posted at 11:31 pm on Wed, Jun 29, 2011.

    Kim Lee Posts: 1798

    Brian: The words homosexual and homosexuality are not written in the Bible.

     
  • Kim Lee posted at 11:30 pm on Wed, Jun 29, 2011.

    Kim Lee Posts: 1798

    Kevin Paglia (@ 5:16 pm on Fri, Jun 10, 2011.)

    Although I disagree with you on same sex marriage I do appreciate your other comments on this post and agree with them. Well said.

     
  • Kim Lee posted at 11:23 pm on Wed, Jun 29, 2011.

    Kim Lee Posts: 1798

    Charles Nelson wrote, "I don't think it takes much in the way of observational skills to know that we aren't all created equal."

    LOL!

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 5:21 pm on Fri, Jun 10, 2011.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2080

    Oh and David, yes, every church I know of make the same requirements of straight couples. Whether or not the couples themselves follow that requirement after the ceremony is on them, not the church.

    I find it difficult to believe that you didn't know this of churches already though.

    The question does beg another question though if Anne is still reading. If the church is making the blessing available for same sex relationships then can traditional couples (opposite sex) who are not married receive the same blessing to live together "in sin" (as the old saying goes)? And maybe that was what David was trying to imply.

     
  • Kevin Paglia posted at 5:16 pm on Fri, Jun 10, 2011.

    Kevin Paglia Posts: 2080

    Brian, as much as I am against same sex marriage (church marriage, civil unions with same benefits are a different matter) I have to disagree with you.

    Blessing a relationship is NOT against Biblical teachings, even if it is a same sex relationship. EVERY relationship should be faithful, encouraging, respectful, empowering and ultimately make us a better person through that relationship. In fact most churches and/or religious leaders would be more than willing to bless any friendship. Why should that be different with a same sex relationship?

    Let's put it another way, if churches DIDN'T bless people who were acting in violation of one Biblical tenant or another then NOBODY would get a blessing. I'd rather see churches like this that "love the sinner but hate the sin" than just reject the sinner.

     
  • David Diskin posted at 11:52 pm on Thu, Jun 9, 2011.

    David Diskin Posts: 184

    "Blessings will be limited to lifelong committed relationships with fidelity, monogamy, mutual affection and respect, careful and honest communication."

    Will they apply the same requirements to straight couples?

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:17 pm on Wed, Jun 8, 2011.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    The diocese is nonetheless offering blessings to same sex unions. This goes against the Bible. In other words, the diocese is mocking the Bible.

     
  • Ross Farrow posted at 1:50 pm on Wed, Jun 8, 2011.

    Ross Farrow Posts: 104

    Thank you, Anne. I'll change it again.

     
  • Anne Smith posted at 10:22 am on Wed, Jun 8, 2011.

    Anne Smith Posts: 2

    Ross, the use of the term "civil" indicates a transaction with legal standing in the state. A "civil union" would be one in which the state recognized a couple as having legal standing similar to that of a married couple, with such rights as joint filing of taxes, hospital visitation, and so forth. To say that the bishop has "approved same-sex civil unions" continues to imply that the bishop is authorizing something that is illegal, which is not the case.

     
  • Ross Farrow posted at 10:03 am on Wed, Jun 8, 2011.

    Ross Farrow Posts: 104

    Perhaps I misused the term "civil marriage." I realize gay marriage is illegal in California, so I used the term "civll" to show it as a "marriage in spirit," if you will. In any case, I removed "marriages" from the article and headline.

     
  • Anne Smith posted at 9:46 am on Wed, Jun 8, 2011.

    Anne Smith Posts: 2

    I would like to clarify what is happening here, as the headline for this article is potentially misleading. Episcopal clergy cannot, of course, marry same-gender couples in the state of California. Such marriages are at present illegal.

    More accurate is the articles' reporting that Bishop Talton has approved "blessings of same-gender civil marriages and domestic partnerships", although this too is not quite correct. Episcopal clergy in the Episcopal Diocese of San Joaquin are permitted to bless same-gender couples meeting the same requirements as heterosexual couples, as summarized in the article (although this article's report is also incomplete as to the requirements). Such blessings are referred to within the diocese as "sacred unions," not marriages, and may be conducted regardless of a couple's legal status as married or registered domestic partners.

    In other words, Episcopal clergy may act as agents of the state in performing legally permitted heterosexual marriages. Any other blessing conducted has no effect on couples' legal standing within the state of California.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 9:25 am on Wed, Jun 8, 2011.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    Frankly,

    I don't see how not believing anyone, including Mexicans, should be allowed to enter this country illegally and suck up our social services could be construed as me believing they are abhorrent.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 8:53 am on Wed, Jun 8, 2011.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    Charles,

    I see your point. Perhaps we are equal in a sense at conception and change dramaticly at birth?

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 8:50 am on Wed, Jun 8, 2011.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    Doug,

    If I were to make a stand I believe promiscuity is immoral would I be a hate monger of promiscuous people?

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 8:45 am on Wed, Jun 8, 2011.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    Doug,

    One could construe your interpretation of me being a hate monger of homosexuals
    (based on their immoralities) can be equally applied to Paul. For the record, Doug, I do not hate homosexuals.

     
  • Charles Nelson posted at 8:44 am on Wed, Jun 8, 2011.

    Charles Nelson Posts: 259

    I don't think it takes much in the way of observational skills to know that we aren't all created equal.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 8:33 am on Wed, Jun 8, 2011.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    Doug,

    My points are quite clear here. Are you challenging Paul's word? And where have I said Mexicans are abhorrent.? Please back this accusation up with some evidence.
    God did create us equally. What's your point? AND, perhaps it is not important or informative to you CNC does not say in any shape or form Homosexuality is no longer immoral.

     
  • Doug Chaney posted at 8:06 am on Wed, Jun 8, 2011.

    Doug Chaney Posts: 1232

    So, Brian, what's your point? Your past hate rantings of the GLBT community and Mexicans are abhorrent. Why do you continue on your rampages? Didn't God create us all equally? I suppose you are one of the chosen few. Please confine your blogs to informative ones?

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:19 am on Wed, Jun 8, 2011.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857


    Unless my Bible is wrong, Paul says: sexual immorality includes paedophilia, practising homosexuality, adultery, prostitution and promiscuity. And Jesus does say in CNC Paul's words are given the same validity as his.

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:06 am on Wed, Jun 8, 2011.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    Where in Christ's New Covenant does it say or imply Homosexuality is no longer immoral?

     
  • Brian Dockter posted at 7:01 am on Wed, Jun 8, 2011.

    Brian Dockter Posts: 2857

    Let me get this straight. The Episcopal Church is permiiting something that is forbidden in the Bible.

     
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